. >> the next suspect was bob johnson, a roofing contractor. darrell fired johnson just two weeks before his murder. >> he was upset that he wasn't going to continue to work there because according to him, darrell had promised him continued work. >> darrell's family never met johnson. but they heard of him. >> darrell had mentioned that he had had some problems with him. he usually didn't bring his problems home and so since it was something that he had shared with me, i thought it was probably serious. >> incredibly, just two days after darrell's murder, johnson called asking to get his job back. >> the superintendent felt like it was odd that bob johnson was calling there, when can i come to work, after the fact, after darrell's been murdered, because his belief was that darrell didn't want him there. >> johnson said that on the day of the murder, he was with his child in a dallas hospital. this was verified. but he still had time to commit the murder. >> the alibi wasn't sufficient enough, in my mind, to totally exclude him. >> but like curt

then an inmate at the local jail contacted police about his former roommate, bob johnson. >> someone who came forward and claimed that their roommate at that time in '86, johnson, had come home bloodied and said that he had killed somebody. >> johnson's mugshot looked remarkably like the composite drawing of the suspect. he didn't fit the fbi profile, but his background made him a likely suspect. >> his ex-wife told the investigators that mr. johnson had a significant drug problem, and he was conducting those burglaries to help support that habit. >> janet haynes identified johnson in a photo lineup. >> so i'm sure at that point, edmond investigators clearly thought they had their man. >> by this time, dna testing was standard practice. so johnson's dna was compared to semen from janet haynes' rape test kit. and his footprints were compared to the bloody footprints at the crime scene. >> it was just a matter of days that we got those results back, and conclusively excluded him as a suspect of this homicide. it was not his footprint. it was not his dna type that was left behind. >> th

and was doing so at the same time his wife sherry was dating kevin johnson. bob's profile on the dating website was also revealing. >> mr. durall portrayed himself as a man living separately from his wife and was completely unburdened by any other romantic or personal attachments and was open to a relationship with the appropriate woman. >> in e-mails to perspective dates, bob explained why a divorce was impossible. >> to one young woman, mr. durall said he really did not want to pursue a divorce with his wife because it would be expensive and messy. he actually went so far as to say he would be better off if his wife were dead. >> in another e-mail, bob said he had a plan to resolve his own satisfactory marriage. bob's internet search engine revealed he looked for information on all sorts of diabolical schemes. >> we were shocked to see these searches on things like poison, herbs, death, something about sedation of people, also about smothering. but the most graphic one was actually a search that durall did on the words "kill spouse." >> investigators now ha

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extent from bob's great biography, and i saw the lady bird johnson not long after that, and she said, you're absolutely wrong. president.want to be she knew that was not true, but that is what you do. you are ambitious as hell, but at the same time, you have to deny it. >> and every senator looks in the mere and sees a president. you knew someone at an early age, barack obama, as a student at harvard law school. us is ane say, among future president? >> no one said among us is a future president, but many people said among us is a future public figure. you could see it. >> what could you see? >> you could see his effect on people. it was very different than other people. harvard law school is a very competitive place, bright individuals, ambitious individuals, individuals with large personalities, but there was something different about obama, and everybody could see it. >> but could you define what was different about him? >> people listened to him. >> he listened to them. >> he listened to them, and he had a way of restating their own views and restating the views of their opponent

to some extent from bob's great biography, and i saw the lady bird johnson not long after that, and she said, "you're absolutely wrong. he never wanted to be president." she knew that was not true, but so much -- that is what you do. you are ambitious as hell, but at the same time, you have got to deny it. >> somebody else once said, "every senator gets up in the morning and looks in the mirror and sees a president." you knew someone at an early age, barack obama, as a student at harvard law school. did anybody in the class say, "among us is a future president"? >> no one said, "among us is a future president," but many people said, "among us is a future public figure." you could see it. >> what could you see? >> you could see his effect on people. it was very different than other people. harvard law school is a very competitive place, bright individuals, ambitious individuals, individuals with large personalities, but there was something different about obama, and everybody could see it. >> but could you define what was different about him? >> people listened to him. >> he listened

. >> rose: bob what do you think in terms of one man who lived with a giant ambition to be president? you know, lyndon johnson sort of asked your question to himself three nights after he became president, after kennedy's assassination, his advisors were writing his first speech and advised him not to take on civil rights because it was a lost cause, a noble cause but a lost cause you know what he said? what the hell is the presidency for, then? and he took on that cause. so i think you have, you know, basically there is a spectrum, you have some presidents who want to be president so they can say they were president. you have some presidents who want to change the world, and i think in the last 100 years we have seen that whole range of presidents. >> rose: yes. exactly right because you think some people -- it is just the next step in their ambition. >> but the ambition cannot be entirely on display, i said something about lyndon johnson wanting to have always been -- always wanted to be president, which i got to some extent from bob's great biography and i saw ladybird johnson not

disney ceo bob iger joins us next. we get the latest on disney's business. >> welcome back to the best of west we focus on technology and business's -- and business. jon erlichman sat down with disney ceo bob iger on the disney lot in burbank california . john started by asking him what kind of counterprogramming will appear on abc. >> i think it ends up being a good opportunity for us. abc's lineup on thursday nights is pretty strong, particularly with "gray's anatomy" and "scandal." i don't know what it will be next season, it has not been determined yet. the abc primetime audience tends to skew more female than male. it is a great opportunity moving the cbs entertainment shows out. they have success on the night really early with the big bang theory. moving that out so it does not compete with our shows. to that will probably help us in some form. i don't know, it is too early to speculate whether there is going to be tremendous counterprogramming. abc's strategy is what it is, regardless of the competition. abc kno

where billy bob and joe decided after a couple brewskis i'm going to shoot up a substation. this was an event that was well thought out and well-played. >> at a hearing last no henry waxman a ranking member of the energy and commerce committee said this. >> this was an unprecedented and sophisticated attack. >> it's not an isolated incident. waxman pointed to attacks last year. it can be done and it's not that difficult to do. >> in 2007 he helped create this report on terrorism and the power delivery system that stayed classified for years, so it distribute become a how to for first. >> -- terrorist. >> the question is, how vulnerable are the facilities. we drove up to the substation and found a open gate. we drove by and could see the defense the entire facility. we're out here around the facility for a half hour before an employee asked what we were doing. pg&e does not mean it's not secure. >> we have security measures in place and we're doing more now than before to improve security and we're confident that the marchs will be effective. >> what -- fuhrs are -- measures

and i worked in bob's big boy what what what how do we transmitted that how do we share. or that. that knowledge how do we make sure that somehow the generation coming up both the generals gen y. who don't remember pre reagan and in particular the millennia old so it looks like are going to be a very activist generation understand that america actually did work at one time or at least did work for many people. your thoughts on this i think americans you know are famous for not knowing history and not caring much about history on the other hand i do believe that generally in our politics. there is a constant sense of nostalgia for the last period the conservatives have it about the fifty's when they think morals were in a different place. than eighty seven about the sixty's and the roads have been about the sixty's and about the period after world war two when we had shared prosperity and that was that was very widely shared so i think those stories and that sense of a last period is a very strong theme in our politics right now i do think that the millennial generation will have t

and i worked in and bob's big boy what. what what how do we transmitted that how do we share that. that knowledge how do we make sure that somehow the generation coming up both the general gen y. who don't remember pre reagan and in particular the millennial so it looks like are going to be a very activist generation understand that america actually did work at one time or at least did work for many people. your thoughts on that but i think americans you know are famous for not knowing history and not caring much about history on the other hand i do believe that generally in our politics. there is a constant sense of nostalgia for the last period that conservatives have it about the fifty's when they think we're in a different place. than eighty seven about the sixty's and the roads have been about the sixty's and about the period after world war two when we had shared prosperity and that was that was very widely shared so i think those stories and that sense of a last period is a very strong theme in our politics right now i do think that the millennial. innovation will have to in

. >> bob, a lot of democrats think he's not liberal enough. >> he certainly is not. i could go back to lindyndon johnson was far more liberal. roosevelt was, truman was. >> truman? >> yes, truman was liberal. sure he was. he was the one who started the food -- the agricultural money for subsidies for agriculture. listen, this guy, you take health care, and you say, all right, that's his big entitlement program. but name me one other entitlement program he's made. >> food stamps. >> they were there. >> he expanded them. i got another one, the debt. $6.6 trillion added to the debt sipresident. >> in other words, you can't add one. >> obamacare is pretty much -- >> i gave that in the front end. i don't see that he's created a whole lot of things dpaesh. >> what about the stimulus? >> that's not an entitlement program. >> a lot of government spending. >> that's what it is. >> he doesn't do enough, as far as i'm concerned. >> grown government more under his watch from george washington up to today. >> we're proud to call ourselves liberal. >> you get the perfect segue awa

. >> bob, a lot of democrats think he's not liberal enough. >> he certainly is not. i could go back to lindyndon johnson was far more liberal. roosevelt was, truman was. >> truman? >> yes, truman was liberal. sure he was. he was the one who started the food -- the agricultural money for subsidies for agriculture. listen, this guy, you take health care, and you say, all right, that's his big entitlement program. but name me one other entitlement program he's made. >> food stamps. >> they were there. >> he expanded them. i got another one, the debt. $6.6 trillion added to the debt since he's been president. >> in other words, you can't add one. >> obamacare is pretty much -- >> i gave that in the front end. i don't see that he's created a whole lot of things dpaesh. >> what about the stimulus? >> that's not an entitlement program. >> a lot of government spending. >> that's what it is. >> he doesn't do enough, as far as i'm concerned. >> grown government more under his watch from george washington up to today. >> we're proud to call ourselves liberal. >> you get the per

but mark johnson, a recently retired pg and e executive made these comments at a recent conference on grid security. >> this wasn't an incident where billy bob and joe decided after a couple of brewskies decided i'm going to shoot up a substation. this was well planned. >> reporter: referred to that incident like this. >> this was an unprecedented, and sophisticated attack on an electric grid substation. >> it can be done, and it's not that difficult to do. >> reporter: clark is a fellow at the electric power research in palo alto. in 2007, he helped create this report on terrorism, and the electric power delivery system. a report that stayed classified for years by homeland security, so it didn't become a how to for terrorists. >> it's a constant battle. >> reporter: the question is, how vulnerable are these facilities. we drove up to the substation and found an open gate. we drove by and can see the defense, pretty much the entire facility. in fact, we were out here, in and around the facility for about a half hour before a single employee asked us what we were doing. pg and e says

but mark johnson, a recently retired pg and e executive made these comments at a recent conference on grid security. >> this wasn't an incident where billy bob and joe decided after a couple of brewskies decided i'm going to shoot up a substation. this was well planned. >> reporter: referred to that incident like this. >> this was an unprecedented, and sophisticated attack on an electric grid substation. >> it can be done, and it's not that difficult to do. >> reporter: clark is a fellow at the electric power research in palo alto. in 2007, he helped create this report on terrorism, and the electric power delivery system. a report that stayed classified for years by homeland security, so it didn't become a how to for terrorists. >> it's a constant battle. >> reporter: the question is, how vulnerable are these facilities. we drove up to the substation and found an open gate. we drove by and can see the defense, pretty much the entire facility. in fact, we were out here, in and around the facility for about a half hour before a single employee asked us what we were doing. pg and e says