i would say this about speaker boehner. back in the 1930s we had a speaker named john nance garner, became vice president under fdr. and he once said that speakership is the hardest job in washington. and i think that is pretty much sums up the experience of john boehner. imagine how much has changed since then 1930s. if anything the job has gotten exponentially more difficult. now speakers have to deal with huge amounts of campaign funding, independent groups funding sometimes primary challenges against members of your party, you have a 24-hour news cycle, plethora of interest groups. all these things are putting tremendous pressure on the job of speaker to try to get things done without making too many people angry, and i think that boehner certainly has -- those are challenges to his speakership. then you couple that with some of the more, shall we say, independent-minded members of his party right now in the house of representatives that make it harder for him to count on the party loyalty necessary to enact legislation

>> how would i grade john boehner? i hesitate to grade john boehner to the extent that he is still speaker, and we see in history that sometimes speakers say the biggest and most amazing accomplishments for the end of the ten-year. so we still have, i think the jury is still out. i would say this about speaker boehner. back in the early 1930s we had a speaker named john nance garner, later became vice president under fdr. he once said that speakership is the hardest job in washington. and i think that that's pretty much sums up the extremes of john boehner. imagine how much has changed since the 1930s when john nance garner was saying if anything, the job has gotten exponentially more difficult, where now speakers have to deal with huge amounts of campaign funding, independent groups that are funding sometimes primary challenges against members of your party. you have a 24 hour news cycle, a plethora of interest groups. all these are putting tremendous pressure on the job of speaker to try to get things done without ma

tea party patriots saying it is time for boehner to go. and another group asking to spend a million dollars on anti-leadership ads is this the beginning of a big insurrection. i thought he figured out a way to avoid trouble to get him through so they can win big and pick up maybe 20 seats. sdpl you are living in the rational world of political strategy. >> i want to stay there, too. >> i that's not where the tea party people are. they are serious about wanting to get rid of john boehner. >> do they believe he is a liberal? >> they believe he is a complete renegade. they absolutely do. they know that there is no real mechanism for getting rid of him in the middle -- they want to do it. what they are going to do is hope that they elect more tea party people in the next mid term elections and then have the votes to oust him. the big problem is they don't have a single consensus. >> i don't think they think he is a liberal. i think they think he is a collaborationest. that he is part of the system, working on compromises, passing a farm bill,

saying, well done, john boehner. haven't seen that for a long time. third most interesting thing is the people who voted against boehner, the republicans who said, i don't want to vote to raise the debt ceiling, people like paul ryan are privately saying, making it very clear, boehner did the right thing. this is -- if you look at it a big victory for obama. he drew the line, he said, i'm not going to let you hold a gun to my head and blackmail me on this. it's a rare and very important victory. >> schieffer: you know, i thought it was also interesting that again we had ted cruz over in the senate, because what really happened here, i think you can make the case that john boehner was really looking out for his members. they knew this was going to happen. boehner let democrats pass this in the house, his members could vote against it and say, we voted against it. so he really kind of did them a favor, the exact opposite happened over in the senate where mitch mcconnell had it worked out that they could pass this on a

john boehner in a statement -- they were saying john boehner must be replaced as speaker of the house unless we install a new leader that go on offense, democrats will never fear us and we'll never have any leverage. what's wrong with these people? it's always us versus them. the republicans don't even know their talking points anymore. you can't do business with obama because you can't trust him or not enough trust in small business. everything is negative. this guy steps up to the plate and says, why don't we pay our bills a little bit? and they're mad at him. boehner is playing defense by claiming he didn't have the votes. the last round of government shutdown and hostage taking by the republicans has the republicans rethinking their strategy. boys, we have an election coming up here pretty soon. we better figure this out. the republican caused government shutdown cost our economy $24 billion. maybe boehner figured out this isn't worth. there's no doubt people blamed republicans for this. americans blamed republicans for the shutdown by a 22 point margin. it was all over 24% of ame

. >>> pity john boehner. fresh off his bid to revive immigration reform only to abandon it a week later, he's twisted himself into a knot over something that used to be very simple, raising the nation's debt limit. for more than a week, he's been trying to hold the debt limit hostage in exchange for rolling demands including presidential approval of the keystone pipeline. that wasn't enough. doing away with risk corridors in the affordable care act. then that wasn't the right kind of pain. as of yesterday, restoring military pension cuts, ones republicans negotiated in december's budget deal until the caucus decided that was another kind of pain entirely. instead of extracting something that would really hurt democrats or foul up the administration, instead of doing anything that would in any way be inconvenient to the democratic party, unable to figure out what they want and how to get their members to vote for it, they're waving their white flag. >> listen, you've all known that our members are not crazy ab

i think this is a rare case where boehner showed some leadership and it might tell us what boehner plans to do with the rest of his future. it will be interesting to talk about what he'll be doing a year out from now and i think president obama did the right thing by not caving. so you sometimes have to do the right thing and take the bad headline. >> but you don't have to have a bad headline. barack obama voted against raising the debt ceiling and he made a point. the raspberry epublicans could least made a point about a debt, about a medicare and medicaid social security system that is not going to be solvent for the next johnson racial generation . you pick it, we got it. they could have made the point. or the fact that we're spending trillions of dollars every year and the on way they can come up with a budget compromise is by ripping off military retirees in the futures. that would have been a good point to make. say, democrats, would you like to restore benefits to military retirees as part of this debt ceiling battle? make the democrats vote against military retirees and go ahead

is this a new boehner? >> i think that at least one person, john boehner, seems to recognize that at the end of the day, he has a very hard core group of tea party extremists, who are most of the time running the show there, but even john boehner, i think, realized that it was essential for us to put a bill on the floor that allowed us to pay the bills when there was nothing that would please any of these extremists, but who most of the time he allows to run the show. >> now, democrats -- >> i don't think it's anything more than that. >> right. i want to shift now to what the democrats are doing, your party's doing, you're about to embark on your annual retreat. the question now is, what's the plan for getting stuff done? with what has just happened with speaker boehner and the increase there of the debt ceiling and being able to pay those bills that have already been approved, what does this mean in terms of your party's move going forward to get something done? do you think this means you'll be able to pe

that pretty much sums up the experience of john boehner. imagine how much has changed since the thirties so if anything it has god exponentially more difficult where they have to deal with huge amounts of campaign funding, the independent groups, a primary challenges of the party, a 24 hour news cycle, a plethora of interest groups, putting pressure on the job to get things done without making too many people angry and i think that john peyser certainly has those are challenges ben you couple that with more of the independent-minded members that make it harder for them to count on that loyalty to an act legislation so i would say that boehner has done the best he could do with the bad he and that he has been dealt. >> host: professor green, speaker is also a member of congress how much attention do they pay to their district? >> guest: this is what i argue that traditionally what they think about is there party to do what the party once it is the majority party who decides who the speaker will be. i do knowledge that to win large degree bat

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later, speaker boehner admitted that president obama won this round because boehner and the house republicans had nothing. that's his word, nothing. they didn't have a strategy. and they dependent have the votes. >> you didn't have the political leverage to fight the president on? >> no, it's the fact that we didn't have 218 votes. if we don't have 218 votes, you have nothing. we've seen that before. we'll see it again. >> joining me now is msnbc policy analyst ezra klein. he's also building a new news site at vox media. ezra, so john boehner did the right thing. let's give the guy credit. >> sure. i think it's worth saying, we're doing nothing for the unemployed, we're doing nothing about climate change. we're celebrating that the majority party in the house of representatives put forward no votes but did not actually block the debt ceiling increase that would have mutt the global economy into a global tail spin. not only did john boehner do the right thing, he's also right about the politics. something you're seeing here is the weakening of the conservative wing of the republican party in t

and that's a hard argument for people like john boehner to counter. he deserves some credit for having those principles that sort of included a path to citizenship. that was a radical move by him. and now he's kind of throwing up his hands. but i have a sneaking suspicion that it's still theoretically possible they would try something after these primaries this summer. >> marimaria, from immigration reform advocacy community, how optimisti inic are you that sceo may play out? some folks say 2015 would be worse for electoral politics because who's going to want to hand a sitting democratic president a legacy victory on something like immigration reform? >> that's absolutely right. every single piece of major immigration legislation has happened actually in off-year elections for the most part, midterm elections for the most part. it's been with the stronghold that the opposite party, in this case the republican party, is trying to hold onto the house and possibly pursue the senate. it doesn't make historical sense from where we are from this standpoint

it was a move that could threaten john boehner's speakership. boehner agreed to allow the vote without any strings attached, that avoids default on the

but i cannot fault speaker boehner. he said let's march up that hill before and this time it will be the same outcome. so i'm not going to do it. so i think that they ought to give speaker boehner pass on this. i know some of them won't and i understand why they are but if i were speaker boehner i would've done the same thing. neil: i doubt that you would have done the same thing. there's nothing the remotely mainstream about you. [laughter] neil: having said akamai talked to a prominent republican before the vote went down. and he said if we give it up at the fight, we have lost our soul and this is for the political calculus. the gist of it was just that. but they do not know what they stand for outside of getting through the 2014 midterm elections hopefully with a bigger majority in the house. but that this harkens back to a party that will do anything to sort of game control the lose its soul in the process. so if you make of that? >> i think that is exactly right. and i also think that red the congress of the unite

. >>> issue 3, boehner on bond. >> listen, i like to play golf. i like to cut my own grass. >> right. >> and i do drink red wine. i smoke cigarettes. i'm not giving that up to be president of the united states. >> right, right. >>> republican house speaker john boehner tells us why he won't run for the u.s. presidency in 2016. the reason is that the house speaker enjoys his current job, appears relaxed and letting his hair down so to speak. last week on the tonight show with the retiring jay leno. three months ago, the speaker was in crisis mode. his party responsible for what mr. boehner describes as a quote, unquote, disaster. namely, the 16-day government shutdown. speaker boehner repeatedly warned fellow republicans against the shutdown maneuver, although he backed them up once it had occurred. >> i looked up and i saw my colleagues going this way. and you learn that a leader without followers is simply a man taking a walk. >> right. >> so i said, do you want to fight this fight? i'll go fight the fight with you, but it was a very predictable

>> look, i think boehner did the right thing. if you are the republicans, you just want to get -- you want to stay on obamacare. not change the subject to anything else. this would have changed the subject. i think they probably would have lost in the end if they would have tried this gamut and we saw the damage that was done to the republican party the last time. i think it's smart for them to try to move towards the upcoming elections and just talk about obamacare as much as they can. >> i i agree with that i think it would have been wise to fight a little bit on the debt ceiling. charles attacks the bailout provision would have been a good one had there been more consensus in the house republicans. >> explain to me how the president doesn't come out and say this is paying for congress' previous bills? democrats need to hold the line. he can't attach anything. democrats fall in line and they do the exact same thing that they did with ted cruz and then republicans look exact same way. >> first of all, i think it's very different

i know you talked to one of the tea party groups taking on boehner. the first question is how big of a threat are they to him? >> i would say listen. for him to get reelected to congress, they are no threat at all. for him to be reelected speaker, when you start to look at the fact that john boehner almost didn't make it through almost a first ballot process, he made it by about six votes. no opposition and no specific opposition. he did have conservative opposition in 2012. they could start to chip away and look at the republicans who announced their retirement, a number of those are john boehner loyalists and allies and they voted for him and pushed him for speaker. when these groups who have been against boehner all along and they start to base their support on a person's candidacy based on whether they will support john boehner in the future as speaker, that is a different story. we heard republicans explain about nancy pelosi. that's why this is important. >> no question. could this backfire on tea party conservatives if it damages the party as a

john boehner, they are getting annoyed. what do you tell them? >> some are justify ibly annoyed. he indicate a willingness to go with quote immigration reform, amnesty, they rebelled. on this one, i can't fault boehner, he said we marched up that hill before, they drove us back down. this time it will be the same outcome, so i'm not going to do it they ought to give boehner a pass on this one, i know some won't, i understand why. but if i were boehner, i think i would have done the same thing. neil: i doubt it. nothing remotely mainstream about you, but having said that, i did talk with a prominent republican earlier today before the vote, he said, it is as if we have given up the fight. i'm paraphrasing. they don't know what they stapd for outside of getting through 2014 midterm elections. maybe flipping senate. but, this harkens back to a party that will do anything to sort of of maybe gain control but lose its soul in the process. >> i think that is right, i think that congress of united states itself and house, they are

i talked to a top boehner person who said this is tapping the brakes. this is not killing the thing entirely. and even if they can't get the entire thick done this year, they at least want to try to take the first step to address immigration in 2014. >> if his public argument is our guys don't trust president obama and they don't because they mass a health care law and he makes administrative changes, some of that is true, some is exaggerated, will the trust get greater between now and election day? >> what boehner was trying to do was water down expectations, and he know he wants to do something on immigration, but if it's not going to be comprehensive, what is it? maybe it's a republican version of the dream act. some piecemeal reforms. they will trickle that out -- >> and obama will sign it, by the way. >> the other thing is there's not a ton of urgency to get this done. there's sort of political urgency, right, but this terms of people just rank and file people clamoring for immigration reform, it just isn't there. >> so short-term versus long-term,

boehner's speakership. the senate conservatives fund circulating a petition, calling on house republicans to force speaker john boehner, taking aim at his support for a clean debt ceiling built. the group is rallying support to the website replaced the speaker.com. thespeaker.com. if there is no change in the balance of the house, it would leave boehner short the 218 votes he needs for another term as speaker. does the speaker need to go? caller: yes. everyone of them needs to go. get people in here who are going to listen to the people and not do what they think we need. ed,should be represent not them. they are money hungry people who have lost control with what they are spending. they are becoming power-hungry. website,you go to the here is what you will see. dear john, it is over. him know that things aren't working out. signed a national petition urging house republicans to replace the speaker with a true conservative. so far, 29,232 signatures. bill was in massachusetts. caller: good morning. i would

rush, rush, rush, boehner has said that there won't be any this year. >> here's john boehner, the day after the 2012 presidential election. >> immigration? >> it's an important issue that i think ought to be dealt with. i think a comprehensive approach is long overdue. and i'm confident that the president, myself, others can find the common ground to take care of this issue once and for all. >> and here is the same john boehner on "the tonight show" two weeks ago. >> it takes 218 to pass any bill. i like to describe my job as trying to get 218 frogs in a wheel barrow long enough to pass a bill. it's hard to do. >> today, john boehner did not say that the crazy jumping frogs in his wheel barrow are preventing him from immigration reform. instead, of course, he blamed the president of the united states. >> we're going to continue to discus this issue with our members. but i think the president is going to have to demonstrate to the american people and to my colleagues that he can be trusted to enforce the law as it is written. >> joining me now, washington post columnist eugene robinson

we don't want to screw up what john boehner is putting together. what you have now is a situation where boehner says you know what? we can't trust president obama. but, gee, isn't president obama the one who is deporting so many hispanics at a cost of his political stature with the hispanic community? there is a real anger in the hispanic community at the fact that he deports a record historic number of people. two thirds of the american people that support immigration we form. what you have seen today is boehner who was, after the last shutdown, angry and able to speak out against heritage action and all the rest, caving to the talk radio crowd that sank immigration reform under george bush. that's what's going on. >> the fact is, charles, that after boehner released and the republican leaders released this set of standards for -- it was going to be piecemeal but it was going to add up to a comprehensive immigration reform, that there were a lot of republicans who said that no matter what he called it, it was still amnesty and that it was crazy to

john boehner has wanted to pass immigration reform for a long time. he went forward to his members and retreat they had in cambridge, maryland, offered up ideas. those were totally rejected. they were accepted in the sense that some like them but when they put them into motion, that idea was reject d because there was no trust for president obama to enforce border security. we go back to this thing we've talked about a long time. what constitutes border security for house republicans? the answer is unknown but they do know this do not trust president obama on border security, because of that they'll kill immigration reform more than likely than not this year. >> did someone point out to the speaker, that facts are facts, did someone point out this administration has deported more illegal immigrants than any previous administration? and what was his response to that? >> that was -- that question was not posed but that is certainly something that i think immigration reform advocates say is look, one of the strategies the obama administration had to try

nothing say key boehner lieutenants. what's going on? everyone thought we were pretty close to a deal. >> everyone thought we were going to at least try. speaker boehner said this has been a political hostage, let's try. this week he says, whoa and hits the pause button. what happened? his view hasn't changed. he thinks it's smart policy and politics to do big immigration changes including a path to legal status for the undocumented, but in his conference in the house republican caucus, there are a lot of member, number one, who say you make me vote for that legal status make home conservatives say that's amnesty. i might get a challenge. because my base doesn't turn out because we passed what they consider amnesty, i could lose my race. the speaker got some pause there. then mitch mcconnell said we're not doing this again this year. we're not taking up immigration again. if the house did pass something, they would have to reconcile with the senate. mitch mcconnell who on both days would be on the same page with boehner. >> is anything r

. >> i am not thrown back by speaker boehner's statement. he's in a very -- as leader reid said, he's in a very difficult position. he is trying to figure out, in my judgment, a way to get this done without his caucus or too many in his caucus rebelling. i would urge speaker boehner to keep working at it, to figure out -- it doesn't have to be exactly the way we did it, but to keep moving forward. >> we remain optimistic about the prospects for comprehensive immigration reform in 2014. we've seen significant movement among republicans on this issue. >> so we'll see. i think it's a pause, not a total death nail to immigration this year. >>> well, moving on to what may be the marquee 2014 race in the country. at least, it will be the fight between rick scott and charlie crist. crist leads scott in a new poll, 47-40, but some democrats are grumbling a bit that he's running a largely invisible campaign, though if you watch tv, he doesn't seem very invisible. this week, crist is changing all of that, a very aggressive response to republican attac

hs are through john boehner. john boehner says it will not happen this year. senatek schumer in the said -- >> that is more a political ploy. >> all the stories about john boehner, what a huge loser he was. i think he was a huge winner because he bailed the republican party out. the president was moderate in the state of the union. when do they reach the point that we have to lash away politically? give johne trying to boehner the space to maneuver in his party. right now it is on life support. to be dead,resumed then you will see democrats starting to use it for 2014. >> barack obama has been in washington all week. they will meet this weekend in california. what do we look for substantively? this is the first of several meetings. >> important items to discuss. he will meet with benjamin that and how you -- netanyahu. issuesre important from the nuclear talk to the stalled syrian peace talks. >> a terrible refugee problem. >>. important for the jordanians. >> those talks are important. what is the estate offer that washington does not? > >> a golf course, per

pivots, president obama said more government programs are the answer to job creation, and house speaker boehner said the republican party is no longer simply the opposition party. former arkansas governor mike huckabee joins us. he'll have his thoughts on all of that. >>> good evening, everybody. president obama back on the campaign trail to push his state of the union message, his so-called year of action, today beginning with a signing of an executive order to expand federal job training programs, president obama himself admitted his proposal lacks anything that could be described as a new idea. >> so, what we're going to do, we're going to review all of the federal job training programs, then we're going to be supporting local ones. which ones are working best and let's duplicate them and expand them. >> it would worry some of that the president doesn't already know which programs are working and which aren't working. a bizarre shot at higher education, president obama telling his audience that college is just not necessary for success. >> lot of young people no longer see the trades and ski

first it was speaker john boehner on immigration. now the president on social security. >> my budget does also contain the compromise i offered speaker boehner. >> that was 2013 when working together and deficit reduction mattered. but never mind, this is 2014. governing takes a back seat to politics. >>> plus, chris christie's command performance. >> there may be people in this room who disagree with me on something. all of us are from new jersey. what that means is if you get it, you are getting it right back. >> but one upbeat town hall won't make bridge gate go away and now a govern prospect faces a big investigation. >>> republicans giving hillary clinton a starring role in 2014. >> conservative republicans love hillary clinton. right? just ask lindsey graham. >> and beyond. >> if the election were tomorrow, had hillary clinton would most likely be the president of the united states. >> ""inside politics," the biggest stories sourced by the best reporters -- now. >>> welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. thanks for sharin

what do you think prompted the president to have this meeting with speaker boehner? >> well, first of all, my observation of their relationship when i was there is that it was not -- it was not this deeply unfriendly relationship. i understand that events transpired after that that may have put a strain on their relationship. you prone isn't the relationship. the problem is the relationship between the speaker and his caucus. they can gra el on anything, but if the caucus is unwilling to move, it puts boehner in a different position. we've seen that time and again. frankly, lately he's been bug bucking the caucus at some personal cost to hillself. so, you know, these may not be meaningful, though i think on things like the highway bill there may be common ground, but the issue isn't the talk dern it's the talk between the speaker and his own 2r507s. >> yeah, you know, david raises a fair point, sam, that there's a lot of talk about how much or little control and currency boehner has. on some level, i am surprised that boehner took it, and then on some level, i saw it

republicans, including john boehner, still have not made up their mind. a range of ideas have been on the table. the two gaining the most traction would be reversing a cost-of-living adjustment for members of the u.s. military. that was in the budget deal. another thing that has been talked about is doing away with medicare cuts for doctors. this is been controversial for a long time. there is no consensus among republicans. that is complicating things because the calendar is becoming a challenge. late-february is the deadline for dealing with the debt ceiling. the senses the later republic -- the sense is the later solution, theut a less likely we'll see a fight. if democrats are still trying to expand unemployment benefits. how is that going? >> one more run at it. there is a procedural vote in thatenate, making the case it is important for the u.s. economy and folks that lost the benefit. the question is how do you pay for it, and the latest ideas include the way companies pay for pension plans. republicans are reluctant. i want to make other changes a

republican house speaker john boehner was among those most encouraged until today. here's nancy cordes. >> reporter: immigration reform has always been a tough sell with house republicans, but house speaker john boehner argued today that if the push for reform fails, it will be the president's fault. >> listen, there's widespread doubt about whether this administration can be trusted to enforce our laws, and it's going to be difficult to move any immigration legislation until that changes. >> reporter: it was a surprising about-face for the republican leadership. just last week, house budget care, paul ryan, told scott pelley that immigration reform was one of the party's top priorities. >> pelley: what about immigration reform? any hope for that? >> i think there is hope for that. we intend to take the issue up here in the house. >> reporter: but that was before a three-day republican retreat in maryland where house members were luked warm about boehner's proposal to give the nation's 11 million undocumented workers the chance to gain legal status. new york democra

>> guest: how would i grade john boehner? well, i hesitate to grade john bane or to the extent that he's still -- boehner to the extent that he's still speaker. and we see in history that sometimes speakers save their biggest and most amazing accomplishments for the rebelled of their tenure. -- for the end of their tenure. so i think the jury is still out. i would say this about speaker boehner, back in the early 1930s we had a speaker named john nance garner who later became vice president under fdr, and he once said that the speaker hardship is the hardest job in washington. and i think that that pretty much sums up the experience of john boehner. imagine how much has changed since the 1930s when john nance garner was saying this. if anything, the job has gotten exponentially more difficult where now speakers have to deal with huge amounts of campaign funding, independent groups that are funding sometimes primary challenges against members of your party, you have a 24-hour news cycle, you have a plethora of interest groups,

they are really mad at john boehner. group called the senate conservatives fund is urging people to call house republicans to demand that john boehner lose the speakership because he allowed this vote to raise the debt ceiling. they, of course, are the senate conservatives fund which makes this call a little awkward, but apparently they're all over the house. the club for growth warned they would score the vote to punish anyone who voted for it tonight. an adviser told reporters, "when we heard house leadership was scheduling a clean debt ceiling increase, we thought it was a joke. it's not. something is very wrong with house leadership or with the republican party." heritage action, the group widely credited with forcing the republicans to shut down the government last fall, they, too, warned that they would score the vote today. that they would punish anyone who went along with john boehner on this today. but you know what, the republican leadership jumped anyway. john boehner brought this bill to the floor and passed

here's john boehner on immigration. >> this problem's been around for at least the last 15 years. it's been turned into a political football. i think it's unfair. and so i think it's time to deal with it. but how we deal with it is going to be critically important. gwen: then there was the president, still talking about moving on without congress, but not quite as aggressively as before. >> while congress decides whether it's going to raise the minimum wage or not, people outside of washington are not waiting for congress and i'm not, either. so as the chief executive, i'm going to lead by example. gwen: lead by example. give me an example, john. >> well, the examples are pretty small. one of them was he got together the c.e.o.'s of a number of large companies, 300, and talked to them about the idea of the long-term unemployed. the white house has been looking at studies over the last several months in the economic shop there. and they find that people who were unemployed for a long period of time are often just as skilled as those who are unemployed for a short period of time. bu

lou: speaker boehner has been completely wrong in the emigration. they have these two morons i can deal with these things. >> they are looking at the continuing resolution. that's the one we are looking at a lack of this on the issue of the debt ceiling. it's great to see you. lou: san diego voters giving the country a surprise electing a new mayor. and bob filner beating his democratic president obama endorsed opponent by 9% of the vote. it is tough to be a political guru these days. we're coming right back. lou: obamacare isn't working and neither are millions of americans. that's why n york haa new plan -- dozens of tax free zones all across the state. move here, expand here, or start a new business here d pay no taxes for ten years... we're new york. if thers something that creates more jobs, and ows more businesses... we're open to it. start a tax-free business at startup-ny.com. if you have a buness idea, we have a personalized legal solution that's right for you. with easy step-by-step guidance, we're here to help you turn your dream into a r

and we're in the vortex, and john boehner doesn't want it to happen. >> speaker boehner carries a lot of weight, but republicans are not ready to come to the table quite yet. and they're talking about raising the debt ceiling, as they have done before, and they want something in return. so a couple of ideas, tying it to the approval of the keystone pipeline. saying that president obama will vote to raise the debt ceiling if you lift the keystone pipeline, and another shocker, obamacare, and one thing that they're dangling out there, a reinstatement for cuts for benefits for veterans. $6 billion. and that was cut as part of the budget deal just a few weeks ago, but here's the problem, $6 billion, that has to come from somewhere, and republicans don't want to do more spending without showing where it's coming from, and a lot are going to balk at that. and then some republicans don't want to raise the debt ceiling no matter what. and they don't want to take the vote. so 218 would be the magic number because democrats are not going to support it. and without speaker boehner saying we have

mcconnell is in charge of john boehner. he came out and cut him off saying there would not be immigration. boehner hired a great immigration activist and said he was going to do it and now he proves he does not have control of the caucus yet again. >> is that your read? >> there is broad agreement that this is not the time to split themselves and to alienate some republican voters by doing an immigration bill, even those who wanted to make a deal don't think this is the time to do it. >> there is a cost of we keep delaying. >> 2016 really will not help them. it will help in the short term for 2014. >> any deal we get will be better because we will have more senate republicans to go up against president obama. >> thank you both for being here and thank you. we will see you next week. >> "political capital" is a production of bloomberg television. ♪ >> tonight on "titans at the table," we talk football and the big apple. >> there will be a coin toss right here. >> with the man who is bringing it all together. jonathan tisch

the president as john boehner just realized is not trustworthy. he has a deferred action for a million and a half people who are here illegally. basically changing law with the stroke of a pen and allowing people to work here and stay here would are legally present f you want to know why people don't have trust in the rule of law today, it's because of things like that. apparent lit republicans don't have a problem with it. >> no. wait. because i think this is so interesting. what we're seeing here is the split inside the republican party between two staunch conservatives. wait. let me finish. i'd like you and george to explore this. george, how do you respond on this issue of whether immigration reform is good or bad for the country? >> three needs the country has, welfare state needs its workforce replenished. the elderly retire, 10,000 babyboomers becoming eligible for social security and medicare. second, there's an intense global competition for human capital and we're losing out on that. third, to emigrate is to make an act, uproot yourself

john boehner says it will not happen this year. floating proposals out there. >> chuck schumer in the senate said -- >> that is more a political ploy. >> all the stories about john boehner, what a huge loser he was. i think he was a huge winner because he bailed the republican party out. the president was moderate in the state of the union. when do they reach the point that we have to lash away politically? >> they are trying to give john boehner the space to maneuver in his party. right now immigration reform is on life support. once it is presumed to be dead, then you will see democrats starting to use it for 2014. >> barack obama has been in washington all week. they will meet this weekend in california. what do we look for substantively? this is the first of several meetings. >> important items to discuss. he will meet with benjamin that and how you -- netanyahu. riyadh.later travel to there are important issues from the nuclear talk to the stalled syrian peace talks. >> a terrible refugee problem. >> important for the jordania

pivots, president obama said more government programs are the answer to job creation, and house speaker boehner said the republican party is no longer simply the opposition party. former arkansas governor mike huckabee joins us. he'll have his thoughts on all of that. >>> good evening, everybody. president obama back on the campaign trail to push his state of the union message, his so-called year of action, today beginning with a signing of an executive order to expand federal job training programs, president obama himself admitted his proposal lacks anything that could be described as a new idea. >> so, what we're going to do, we're going to review all of the federal job training programs, then we're going to be supporting local ones. which ones are workingbest and let's duplicate themnd expand them. >> it would worry some of that the president doesn't already know which programs are working and which aren't working. a bizarre shot at higher education, president obama telling his audience that college is just not necessary for success. >> lot of young people no longer see the trades and skille

the senate conservatives fund calling for boehner to be replaced as a result of the vote. republican congressman peter king weighed in on "morning joe" today. >> this is the same group that back in september and october went into a government shutdown that everybody knew was a disaster. they ended up looking like morons following ted cruz over the cliff. john boehner was not going to let that happen again. >> california democratic congresswoman jackie speier, congresswoman, always good to see you. first of all, your reaction to that vote. >> well, it was mother nature doing her level best to help us get over that cliff, and i was delighted to be able to cast my vote. in a very responsible way, we have to pay our debts, so when we appropriate funds, it only makes sense that when the bill comes due, we pay it. that's what increasing the debt limit is all about. >> congresswoman, are we witnessing a shift at all, perhaps, of thawing of tensions there on the hill? taunt of sorts, if you will? here you have speaker john boehner capitulating to president obama for the most part,

they said, all paths to immigration reform are through john boehner. john boehner says it will not happen this year. >> chuck schumer in the senate said -- >> that is more a political ploy. >> all the stories about john boehner, what a huge loser he was. i think he was a huge winner because he bailed the republican party out. the president was moderate in the state of the union. when do they reach the point that we have to lash away politically? >> they are trying to give john boehner the space to maneuver in his party. right now it is on life support. once it is presumed to be dead, then you will see democrats starting to use it for 2014. >> barack obama has been in washington all week. they will meet this weekend in california. what do we look for substantively? this is the first of several meetings. >> important items to discuss. he will meet with benjamin that and how you -- netanyahu. there are important issues from the nuclear talk to the stalled syrian peace talks. >> a terrible refugee problem. >> important for the jordanians. >> those talks ar