that's clear it was jill abramson. she completely made up this whole phony argument that she was paid less. "the new york times" is on the record -- "the new york times" is on the record is saying it's not true. why would canaletta -- >> you don't believe "the new york times." >> i don't believe the new yorkers un -- anonymous sourcing on this sorry. canaletta first wrote this was a issue she was fired over because she was paid less. "the new york times" says it's not true. >> i want to come back to this equal pay question. we still have here an issue where a newspaper has canned a woman and gotten into a public fight with a woman and trashed a woman who had until a few days ago had been its leader of its newsroom. >> that's right. it got all the good press when she became editor so you live by the gender, you guy by the gender and on some level they are going to have to address questions and come up with kind of why this happened. i mean, they talk about how difficult she was. she managed down poorly. she had fights w

when he debated whether to make jill abramson the next editor, the debate was he worried that jill abramson was too much like hal in some ways, she was too rough. not as rough as hal. she had a brusque reputation. he worried about that. he decided that she had the experience, she was tough and she had the digital experience that kay lacked and he chose her. they had a good relationship for a period of time. they heard feedback that she was brusque with people in the newsroom and some tension existed. >> because of? >> all kinds of things. she was very wary of the new ceo mark thompson coming into the newsroom. you had a high wall between the news side and the business side. >> the job was to fix digital. >> and to figure out new ways of generating revenue. all newspapers are in trouble. the business side once those walls lowered was to figure out some ways to make more money. a traditional journalist and jill abramson is a good journalist worries. something called native advertising comes to the fore. which "the times" embraces. it is saying to corporations, we will camouflage your ads to m

the "new york times" has received a pulitzer since jill abramson became its first female editor in 2011. while arthur sulzberger and jill abramson are not talking to the press, both have appeared on this program in previous years. in a conversation in 2011, abramson told me about her interview for her position with the publisher. >> well, you know, i was nervous. i'll admit. he took me to a very nice restaurant. i kind of picked at my food. ( laughter ) >> rose: and what did he want to know? >> he was very frank with me. he wanted to know, first of all, things about what my vision of where the news report needed to go. and he wanted to discuss both some of my strengths and some weaknesses, too. >> rose: so he had an appraisal of both strengths and weaknesses. >> he did. and i thought they were quite fair. >> rose: and accurate? >> i thought they were accurate. >> rose: like, what did he say? >> he said that when i am in a bad mood, i can be too brusque with people, and that you can just read it on my face. that there's, like, good jill who is delighted and engaged and wants to talk abou

wrote a note to staff outlining his decision to fire jill abramson. and in it, he cited inadequate communication and the public mistreatment of colleagues. abramson is set to deliver the commencement speech tomorrow at wake forest university in north carolina. >>> the 911 memorial museum opens to the public on wednesday. for now, only first responders and victims' family members were allowed inside. it took eight emotionally charged years to build the museum as a tribute to those who died when terrorists flew hijacked planes into the twin towers, the pentagon and a field in pennsylvania. i'm erin mcpike. "state of the union" with candy crowley starts right now. >>> california simmers after wildfires scorch an area bigger than manhattan.

somet just jill labor and -- abramson and mark thompson. arrangedened was they janine gibson to come in a week ago last monday to meet with arthur and thompson and the go to lunch. they were trying to recruit her. wasdid not tell dean she recruiting to be a managing editor but doing digital. upset.really so he happened to have a dinner with arthur sulzberger is the following wednesday, tuesday -- two days later. didat dinner, dean something very uncharacteristic. he is very gentle and a popular figure and a good journalist. he said it is unacceptable that this happened this way and the fact that jill is very difficult to work with, i find. arthur was confronted with the question, this fit into that sense that jill was too difficult and it was not a team that he felt calm but with. jill to hise asked office and fired her. he said would you like to announce your resigning? tell the truth. thing aboute more the pay which i think is important? it doesn't matter whether you double over how many dollars difference there wasn't pay it even if you

these are going back in jill abramson's career. a letter reported that they retained a lawyer to represent her in this. the flipside of that is the report was also that her doing so was basically the straw that broke the camel's back in terms of solsberger deciding enough was enough. this is not about an executive and a change in management. this suddenly is about equal pay and the pay gap, and retribution for complaining about disparity in pay, which is - i mean, this - to suddenly to think i'm ocarant with what the administration wants to see, it's taken something that could have been seen as implicit. which was - is it because she's a woman, is it that she's not a good manager which has been floated. to a very real question of okay. why did it seem like in every area jill abramson has been getting different treatment and hold to a different standard. there has been reports. that she was polarising, mercurial, brisk. >> that would bring her in line with every single one of her predecessors at the top of the mass head of the "new

a note to a different style that he has. >> jill abramson got applause when it was announced. but women staffers have been speaking out and according to capital new york, some female editors were disturbed by jill abramson's dismissal. >> they brought it up in the meeting with the publisher. they were concerned how it would look with a swift execution of the first executive editor. something they need to remember is dean is the first african american editor. all the story about sexism is overshadowing his accomplishments as the first editor. >> it's an important story getting a lot of attention. pleasure to have you with us. >> thank you for having me >>> coming up, why do some incidents like jay z's fight with his standard set twitter on -- sister-in-law set twitter >> we have to move out of here right now >> i think we have a problem... >> we have to get out of here... >> they're telling that they they don't wanna show what's really going on... >> mr. drumfield, i'd like to speak to you for a minute... >> this is where columbia's war continues... >> ...still occupied... >> p

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this is jill abramson in boxing gloves. her daughter posted this on instagram, a warning, a shot across the bow saying there's more to come and saying and doing something about this. we don't know what. >> you certainly know, you know the culture of "the new york times." that picture is clearly no mistake. how did you take the statement from sulzberger? >> it was needed, necessary and probably too late. for three days that's a narrative from abramson's camp saying she was the victim of sexist behavior, paid less than the male predecessor and that she was treated poorly and that was descriptions of her as being pushy, as being brusque, sexist descriptions and it's possible she was a poor manager, not holding on to the support of the newsroom. in my experience with her, she was a beloved figure of reporters and someone that the editors struggled to work. >> struggled to work with how? >> when i was thinking of coming over here, i met with her and talked with her and whether i was leave, she reacted and made it easier to leave

arthur sols burg could be accused of doing that right now to jill abramson. the way this has happened, how ugly this has gotten is unprecedented for the "the new york times." this is not the kind of place that abruptly fires someone. i think people in the news room are shook up about it. and more importantly, this isn't about one person. down the line, the reason why this matters is because there are outstanding questions about women in the newsroom at the "the new york times" andless where as well. people say, the people there wonder if there are pay disparities not just at the top but in the middle and at the bottom as well. >> and it's interesting because she's been credited and bringing up a lot of women, poising them for potential managerial roles. so brian, you know, abramson has been described as brusk. but since when is a newspaper editor anything but? i worked in the newspaper business as well. i don't remember them being touchy feely. it was intimidating going up to an editor with your story. how can that be a reason to let her go? >> it may have be

a note to a different style that he has. >> jill abramson got applause when it was announced. but women staffers have been speaking out and according to capital new york, some female editors were disturbed by jill abramson's dismissal. >> they brought it up in the meeting with the publisher. they were concerned how it would look with a swift execution of the first executive editor. something they need to remember is dean is the first african american editor. all the story about sexism is overshadowing his accomplishments as the first african american executive editor. >> it's an important story getting a lot of attention. pleasure to have you with us. >> thank you for having me >>> coming up, why do some incidents like jay z's fight with his standard set twitter on -- sister-in-law set twitter on fire and others get little rehabilitation. first data dive is next. s >>> today's data dive goes up for sale. a very pricey sale. christies auction house is having a billion dollar week, setting a record for the most lucrative auction on tuesday, selling $744.9 million words of painti

abramson. >> there was a report that jill abramson "chafed" at the way he wanted to come in and make the decisions that were usually under the executive editor, video, digital. some ways that the video strategy would affect editorial. she had spent decades at the times and has a long career in newspaper journalism. it was very hard for her to see this in of the business side into the editorial structure. >> what's the relationship between dean and jill abramson? >> publicly, they have spoken supportively at of one another and there were some very tense disagreements between them and the newsroom. as we reported, there was one meeting that got so contentious that dean walked out of jill abramson's office and punched a hole in the wall at "the new york times" headquarters. clearly it was up and down. they managed to weather the relationship and produce what is still a great product. i don't think they were hanging out on the weekends, so to say. >> my impression from people who know him is that he's a very popular manager. >> he's a very popular man within the newsroom. it's abramson s

we see breakthroughs like jill abramson and the head of nbc news is a woman. we have seen a few cracked ceilings of the top, but certainly, not enough all sto. >> and he surely didn't think two generations later, he would still be dealing with equal pay for equal work. >> that is why in congress, this law has been languishing there and the president has tried to do something as much as he can with executive order. and what happened after your lawsuit at "newsweek"? for about the day lawsuit came out. >> when we heard "newsweek" was going to do a cover story on the women's movement and because there were no experienced women writers at the time at "newsweek," they went outside the magazine for the first time in its history and hired a wonderful writer to freelance aps and we thought, aha, we have a new spec for our lawsuit. so the day the cover appeared, we announced the 46 of us were suing for sex discrimination, mainly because we knew the publicity would get these liberal editors of "newsweek," who are against the war in vietnam and for civil rights, to sudde

what is your take on what happened to jill abramson at the time? some say it is the hand of gender biassed. others say, it is just how a man would be treated. >> there is no way to know what happened behind the scenes but what is clear from reading the "new york times" story is that it is the same old horrificster why types trotted out in a way that i'm shocked by actually that no one had the editorial eye to say word like aggressive management. sorry, my hair is out of control. pushy, abrasive, i may not be quoting directly. but that same story we read dozens and dozens and dozens of times about a strong powerful woman. and i know jill abramson in passing. she is an investigative reporter. you don't get the story if you're not persistent and pushy and abrasive. it is that obvious sexism in the hand of a departure. >> we will talk more about that an i want hilary rosen in here. report that jill abramson found out that she made less man than her predecessor, bill keller. and they say compensation had nothing to do with it. and that blew up. when the

jill abramson confronted her bosses after discovering she was paid less than a predecessor. sols berg e denies that, releasing a statement saying: . >> jill abramson has been replaced about dean backa, the paper's first african-american editor. and in france, natalie steps down. seven of her editors quit after plans to transfer staff to a digital side, develop a new op line and launch a revamped format. "i can't accept being undermined." she was elected to run ley monde but accused of an authoritarian and vladimir putin like management style. it is most pollular daily, but struggled with debt despite getting 16 million euros. >> 7.5 years after the murder of anna politkovskaya, a moscow court convicted five men for her killing. three are brothers. the other two men are their uncle and a former police officer. in 2009 all five were tried acquitted in a verdict that embarrassed russian politicians and led to a retrial. she was shot in her moscow apartment. she worked for a newspaper and vetted human rights abuses in chechnya. her murder unscoring problems in russia. the convic

." >> the new york times announced earlier today that executive editor jill abramson would be replaced. former washington bureau chief will become the first-ever african-american editor of the newspaper. joining me now from washington, dylan byers from politico. he broke the news. i'm pleased to have them here on the program. dylan, tell me about what happened and why this decision was made. >> it was very sudden and it goes without saying that we don't have all the answers yet. with the publishers said is that it was due to an issue with newsroom. to the there were some frustrations among members of the staff and in some cases condescending. struggles with the times ceo, mark thompson, who took a more aggressive approach to handling editorial operations in the newsroom than in the past. we still don't have the full answers as to why she left. >> you have been covering the story and you clearly were the one to break it. trace for me what's been going on at "the new york times" for the last year. >> it's been a time of great changes. in times has been doing well terms of its digital ope

and the first public comments from ousted executive of the "new york times," jill abramson. when she speaks, we'll bring you her comments. it's monday, may 19, 2014. this is "the daily rundown." my first reads of the morning -- we're down to the wire. polls open for this cycle's super tuesday. it is the closest thing we have. and the tea party is looking at the real possibility of a series of debates tomorrow. six states hold votes. mitch mcconnell now leads his opponent matt bevin. i'll admit, i always have skepticism of polls like the one here. they're not made up only of live callers. this is survey usa, they do a lot of what we call robo polling around here but they do do live cell phones to supplement a little bit but it does track with our nbc live poll from last week. clearly the mcconnell campaign is confident. this morning they sent out a memo listing the results for every recent major senate primary that featured an ibt on both sides of the aisle. clearly they blow he will be in the upper half of success of these incumbent versus challenger primaries, that have cer

it was at this moment that jill abramson, during a period. a lot of discussion about the digital future of the paper and all that was given power. now her successor, who is an african, first african-american editor of the paper is going to preside over a similarly turbulent time. >> rebecca one more thing here. whether or not she was fired for the right reasons, because of her performance alone, or because of some gender related conflict. you can still draw a straight line from the way people talked about her work to the way people talked about him ear clint-- hi clinton when she ran for president. >> sure. a lot of the very valid complaints people have about hillary clinton the way she ran her campaign. strategic mistakes. they're not just about gender. not because she is a woman. that woman. right. we also have to take a look at how the way that we absorb her, the very real complaints, are in themselves gendered. jill abramson was criticized in public often for being brusque. for being difficult. for being abrasive. for being mercurial. qua

it was at this moment that jill abramson, during a period. a lot of discussion about the digital future of the paper and all that was given power. now her successor, who is an african, first african-american editor of the paper is going to preside over a similarly turbulent time. >> rebecca one more thing here. whether or not she was fired for the right reasons, because of her performance alone, or because of some gender related conflict. you can still draw a straight line from the way people talked about her work to the way people talked about him -- hillary clinton when she ran for president. >> sure. a lot of the very valid complaints people have about hillary clinton the way she ran her campaign. strategic mistakes. they're not just about gender. not because she is a woman. that woman. right. we also have to take a look at how the way that we absorb her, the very real complaints, are in themselves gendered. jill abramson was criticized in public often for being brusque. for being difficult. for being abrasive. for being mercurial. qualiti

the "new york times" announced earlier today that executive editor jill abramson would be replaced. publisher arthur sulzberger informed him. joining me now from washington dylan byers of politico, he broke today's news after covering the turbulence at the times all year, i am please to do have him here on this program. dylan, tell me about what happened and why this decision was made. >> sure. it was very sudden, and because of that thing we don't have all of the answers yet. what arthur sulz burger said it had nothing to do with the quality of the paper under her tenure. of course a year auto we reported there were some frustrations among members of the staff request her leadership they found her to be combative in some cases and in some cases condescending. we don't how much of a role that played. she also had struggles with the time ceo mark thompson who had taken a more aggressive approach to handling editorial operations in the news room than in the most. but we still don't have the pull answers as to why she left. >> rose: trace for me because you've been covering this story

jill abramson, it was reported that jill abramson was paid $475,000, a starting salary compared to that of $559,000 of her predecessor, her salary was raised and only after she protested and the idea was that she had got to "the times" and protested and that was part of her dismissal and seen in "the new york times" david carr their media reporter writing a column saying, so i like jill, my reporter including interviews with senior people backs up the conclusion of sulzburger this was not about pay equity. how do you make sense of this whether that was the issue? >> i think david is right. i think the pay equity story is a sideshow and there was a lot of unrest and division at "the new york times" and discontent with having an editor who was really aggressive, brusque, whatever adjective you want to use. it is also true that sometimes adjectives like that get used about women in a way that are different from men but that doesn't necessarily mean this was a sexist firing. >> so i think that is a really key point that everything seems overdetermined here. it seems to me the possibility th

thanks to jill abramson. we like new blood here on washington d.c. i don't know why that would be a bad thing. get rid of the dead weight. someone is going to pick up jill abramson, and they will get an all-star. >> yeah. we like new blood here on the cycle as well, and i think those are great points. we keep win pointing out that there's a lot more to the story. i keep going back to the question of if the roles were reversed and if this were a male in this position would the same thing have happened. would we hear the same narrative about him being too "pushy?" regardless of what ends up being the real full story here, i think this has had a chilling effect on women. not just in the "new york times", but women all over the place. >> we're starting to see how folks inside the time are feeling. they're beginning to write about it. david carr wrote a piece today about how they're feeling in the newsroom and he put it this way. for pundits and reporters an episode is akin to a pinata that hangs itself and hands you a stick. i think that's an unfortunate

right now i really admire jill abramson. whatever she has to say, i eep in her corner. >> terry o'neal from the national organization for women. thank you. >> thank you. >>> he is not a conservative. that type of cowardice and inability to represent constituents is why he's vulnerable. >> the tea party challenger to the senate minority leader. how vulnerable the mitch mcdonnell? really? plus, benghazi, boko haram and a bang on the head. are gop leaders revealing how they would go after hillary clinton should she run. the brain trust after this. then we gave each person a ribbon to show how many years that amount might last. i was trying to, like, pull it a little further. [ woman ] got me to 70 years old. i'm going to have to rethink this thing. it's hard to imagine how much we'll need for a retirement that could last 30 years or more. so maybe we need to approach things differently, if we want to be ready for a longer retirement. ♪ i love my son, but he never cleans up. always leaves a trail of crumbs behind. you're going

the facts of jill abramson may be murkier now, right, not completely resolved? the larger question about equal pay, about equal treatment for women in leadership is a conversation that will go on independent of jill abramson's circumstances. what do you think? >> absolutely. i think this is a teachable moment. we don't know the facts of jill abramson's situation, but pay discrimination, pay inequity does exist. it's like global warming. only a frung finge few deny its existence. it particularly affects women in low income jobs, women of color, 57 cents on the dollar. it's one of the reasons 1 in 3 women in this country, working women, are on the brink of poverty. things can change that, passage of the fair paycheck fairness act can change that. i think this is also a teachable moment for women in leadership. how do women lead? what is their style? are they judged differently? i think they are, and women have to decide for themselves what kind of leaders do they want to be? can they withstand what being called certain names? how can they survive in the workplace?

still ahead, fired from "new york times" coming up jill abramson's message to hundreds of college graduates as they enter the workforce. >>> we'll tell you how it could ease overcrowding on the muni line. >>> fired from the "new york times" days ago and now jill abramson giving college students a speech about their feature. what will she tell them and will she shed new light on the controversy? >>> brand-new week and brand-new forecast to take you through. mild with a mix of sun and clouds and bring in thunderstorms for tomorrow and then crank up that heat as we get into your memorial day weekend. we'll show you your microclimate forecast in moments. >>> as we get into your monday morning commute, we do see some slowing and a different pattern and unusual for the tri-valley. we'll sort that out coming up. >>> a live look at the opening bell this morning. there we go on wall street and over non the nasdaq, as well. the countdown always a couple beats behind. waves and countdown and we'll check out your business headlines today's monday, may 19th and this is "today in the bay." >>> and a very

and in it he points to specific reasons we're why she said jill abramson was dismissed. he said decision making, failing to bring her colleaguings with her and inadequate communication. salzberger goes on to say in her final year on the job, abramson's compensation package was 10% higher than her predecessor bill keller. abramson's dismissal had nothing to do with pay or gender, here's part of his statement, quote, perhaps the saddest outcome of my decision to replace jill abramson as executive editor of "the new york times" is that it has been cast by many as an example of under the unequal treatment of women in the workplace. initially, the time said abe brackson dismissal had to deal with a management issue. she says the times took this risk because implications of sex discrimination are just too damaging in this kind of environment. >> publisher of "the new york times" is so worried as being regarded as a sexist that he's willing to take the risk of legal liability here by detailing how terrible a manager jill abramson was. >> abramson has the first female executive

jill abramson had been at the company since 1997. jill was executive editor for less than three years. bill had been there eight years as executive editor. i'm with you all the way, jedediah. i will always defend merit-based pay before i say somebody should be paid equal to her predecessor. >> why are you hiring someone to do the job if they're not qualified to do the job. >> she did a spectacular job obviously. >> she should be paid roughly the same amount. >> is she doing the same? we're not there. >> length of time at a company, kirsten makes a big -- >> is point i was making. why would her successor in her old job make more money than she did? that doesn't make sense to me. she was washington bureau chief. she clearly did a good job and they wouldn't have promoted her to executive editor and somebody makes 100,000 more? >> pension and pay at "new york times" were frozen in 2009. >> i've known jill for several years and she is a, there was a lot of rumblings in the newsroom. she didn't get a long with a lot of reporters very well.

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jill abramson speaking out for first time after being fired. what she told the graduates at wake forest university about life's disappointments and what's next for her. >> one asked me are you going to get the times tattoo removed? not a chance. >>> good afternoon to you, i'm peter alexander in washington in for andrea mitchell. for first time the u.s. department of justice has filed criminal charges for cyber economic he is pea onage against another country. this was attorney general eric holder in a press conference a short time ago. >> we are announcing an indictment against the chinese people's liberation army for serious cyber security breaches against six american victim companies. the five chinese military officers conspired together and with others to hack into the computers in the western pennsylvania and elsewhere in the united states. we have brought a charging indictment and it is our hope to get them to stand before an american jury and face justice. >> joining me now, pete williams. the five individuals charged, members of china's

jill abramson out as executive editor of "the new york times." the huge controversy and why you may not want to jump to conclusions. media buzz's howard kurtz is here. >>> fast-food giving workers like mcdonald's, kfc, taco bell, striking over low pay. we're live in oakland as protesters make their case. even when they say it is not, it is always about money! melissa: tough day for the markets. look at that! all three major averages down more than 1%. let's bring in the panel. jo ling kent, jack otter from "barron's" and james frischling from new oak. what do you make of this market, james? >> ten per is pretty good guy. he speaks his mind. i don't think he talks his book. melissa: you don't think he talks his book. that is what a lot of folks think. he knew this, he watched the market and he is profiting. >> i say he doesn't care. what i mean there is a time to make money. a time to protect yourself. market all-time highs. fed thrown everything they can including kitchen sink with this i think he is telling people to take a little money off. mel

we've been talking this morning about the firing of jill abramson. you all know jill? >> yes. >> what do you make -- it's an equal pay issue. at some point we'll hear more abt it. ken auletta has a piece out saying she complained recently about equal pay. whether or not that had anything to do with her firing, we won't debate here. having said that, have any of you been in a situation where you felt like you were approaching a subject that could perhaps get you in trouble like equal pay? sally just started laughing. when have you not? >> i guess exactly right. all of us have. absolutely. it's an issue that's been an issue. we can debate whether it's 77 cents on a man's dollar or 82 cents or 90 cents. but we all know and recognize this gap continues to exist. as do gender bias. not necessarily overt gender biases. but we all have men and women. >> carly, you're tough. right? >> you have to be. i hope i'm also compassionate. sometimes to get the job done, you need to be tough. >> i think i would go to your company and use your company's resources. because you're tough. t

now jill abramson now in present time did the same thing. she found out that the guys were earning more. her predecessor as executive editor was earning a great deal more than she was and one of her deputies was earning more. so she asked them about that and she pushed and she negotiated and they didn't rectify the gap. so she finally goes and sees a lawyer and says she's not cooperative. we're going to get rid of her. my question is so what is it that we're supposed to do? >> to that point, i was surprised that they were sort of offended by the fact that she got a lawyer, which suggests to me that's the appropriate thing to do so you're not having the personal negotiation and someone -- >> she had the negotiation first. there had been a long process. they bumped her up a couple times. as with me all those years ago, hay refused to give you parody. so at that point, my question is what do you do? >> i did also read there was in the various explanations that she consulted and had an attorney. >> that that was in poor taste. you go to them lik

brit, do jill abramson and her supporters have a legitimate beef? >> possibly, but we don't really know what happened. the latest statement is a little vague. if there are indeed a number of people who have complained about her managing style and if, indeed, she -- he felt that he could not trust her because, for example, she tried to hire a co--managing editor without properly informing or consulting her colleagues, these are all legitimate concerns that senior management would have about any employee in any job. these are reasonable things. despite the fact that comments about a female employee's temperament can be sexist, that doesn't mean they are sexist. temperament matters for any manager, and if you are a senior person as the executive editor of the "new york times" and your temperament is -- does not well-equipped you to do the job and manage all the different egos and all the people you have to deal with, then that's a defect and a problem for senior management to deal with. what i would say isreally know. kiersten may be right that this ma

and we have not heard from jill abramson herself. but what i will say is stepping back, this means that women have come a long ways in the workplace. that there was so much backlash, that there were so many people talking about this. i think it's really promising in terms of not just women in journalism, but women across many career spectrums. i think this is a really promising development. you know, the situation which jill abramson may not be, but the backlash is certainly something that women everywhere should be looking to as progress. >> we haven't heard from her vocally. but for her part, it seems she was hitting back to some degree in a photo on her daughter's instagram page the day after she was fired and there was the #pushy. listen to what carly had to say about "the new york times" on "meet the press." >> she's been a distinguished reporter for "the new york times," and editor for three years. there is not a single word in her departure announcement about her contributions, about her record, about her time at "the new york

. >> jill abramson, the editor of the new york times, was allegedly being too aggressive and pushy. is it a case of gender discrimination? >> big time. she had the characteristics of a great editor and many thought she was. the idea is a woman leans in and asks about pay and the differential, that is pushing to be fired, that is awful. >> given how much "the new york times" has pushed on equal pay. what is really striking is the way she was fired. not that women cannot do a bad job and get fired like men, the way she was pushed out. jayson blain, who fabricated stories, he was pushed out. they said nice things about him. and how he resigned for the good of the paper. in contrast, jill abramsom did not get to address the newsroom and they went out of their way to say she was fired and did a bad job. it's hard for me to believe that has no element. >> i think you are absolutely right. i have never seen something happen quite as badly. i want to tell you, i have been in this business for a long time, and i have never met a better journalist than jill abramson and she got a terribly raw

jill abramson had none of that. eight pulitzer prizes in her years there. >> she didn't want to be there for that. >> you can mention it. >> you could rightly ask how "the new york times" defends now that we have the salary numbers. that spokesperson for "the new york times" says you don't look at salary, you look at total compensation which includes bonuses, stock grants, and other long-term incentives. you can't deny and "the new york times" hasn't denied this yet that the baseline salary was much less. >> but you do look at the salary. the other things, it's not like keller didn't have the opportunity. the paper just wasn't doing as well for the bonuses. when jill got there the paper started doing better. in large part because keller did some great work and set it on a strong path. but it's not like they gave her -- >> i think there's also the issue, the fact that character has been raised in the case of jill abramson. i can't think of a senior male executive that has been fired on character grounds or where char

here waxman had to say. >> we're talking about jill abramson, she seems to symbolize something broader going on in the gender politics of high-achieving women. we are worried there's not enough women, opportunities for women to rise to the top. >> alexandra, thank you very, very much. this story has legs, as they say. >>> rutgers university today, graduation day. 400 grads showing love orrer grik legrande, the football player paralyzed in 2010. today, legrande graduated. the degree in labor relations. he was one of the commencement speakers telling fellow grads he's proof that anything is truly possible in this world. former new jersey governor tom keen also spoke. keen a last-minute replacement for condoleezza rice who pulled out of the ceremony after rutter. >>s students and staff protested her selection. >>> to politics now. the race that's long way from getting started and the candidate washington can't stop talking about, hillary clinton, she looms over the democratic feel as odds-on favorite. erin mcpike reports, most favorite status can also work against her. >> reporter: some t

reported that abramson's exit was due to a pay gap between her and her predecessor. >> jill abramson discovered several weeks ago that her pay is less than the person she succeeded. she finds out, she finds out that she is getting paid 500 -- her salary is 500 or $3000 per year. she goes to arthur and mark thompson and complains. payalso finds out that her -- she finds out that washington bureau chief, her pay was lower than the person -- >> is there any explanation for this? >> there are always explanations. in the case of the washington bureau chief it was phil. he was on the editorial board. he was making more money. >> i don't think that is a good explanation for why the comanaging editor -- >> you think someone does in the glare of the new york times would say we cannot afford to pay any sort of salary a woman has added that is less than a man. here is where the convocations begin. when you just compare salary and not total compensation you are comparing apples and oranges. after i wrote my first post on wednesday he put out a statement the next day saying total compensation was