drudge report, benghazi headline. drudge report, benghazi headline. drudge report, benghazi headline. drudge report, this is a good one, he knew. didn't even have to say, you knew that was a benghazi headline. drudge report with a siren, benghazi headline. this website which is the hard wired brain of the conservative movement and conservative media in the republican party, this singular website which is basically the wizard behind america's right wing oz, the drudge report has been absolutely obsessed with the attacks on the american diplomatic facility in benghazi almost two years ago. well, today the united states government announced that the mastermind of that benghazi attack, alleged mastermind, he was arrested in libya. taken into custody by u.s. special forces and the fbi. can you imagine how something like that is going to play on the drudge report? right? i mean, for more than a year and a half now, the drudge report has been burning out its sirens and having to get new ones. freaking out about everything benghazi related. hyping things that

"drudge report," benghazi headline. "drudge report," benghazi headline. "drudge report," benghazi headline. "drudge report," this is a good one, he knew. didn't even have to say, you knew that was a benghazi headline. "drudge report" with a siren, benghazi headline. this website which is the hard wired brain of the conservative movement and conservative media in the republican party, this singular website which is basically the wizard behind america's right wing oz, the "drudge report" has been absolutely obsessed with the attacks on the american diplomatic facility in benghazi almost two years ago. well, today the united states government announced that the mastermind of that benghazi attack, alleged mastermind, he was arrested in libya. taken into custody by u.s. special forces and the fbi. can you imagine how something like that is going to play on the "drudge report"? right? i mean, for more than a year and a half now, the "drudge report" has been burning out its sirens and having to get new ones. freaking out about everything benghazi related. hyping

this isn't benghazi. they're doing everything they can under these circumstances to ensure the embassy remains safe. but the underlying situation, particularly places like baqubah and to the south of baghdad falling under the sway of the isis is a danger to essentially cut off and besiege the city. that's worry number one. >> the president yesterday announced he wrote to congress as part of the war powers act, he was dispatching 275 combat equipped u.s. troops to the embassy area, the so-called green zone, to protect americans. 275 doesn't sound like a whole lot, but here's a question, i don't know if you know the answer off the top of your head. do these american combat forces who are now being dispatched to baghdad, will they have immunity from iraqi prosecution? because that was the big sticking point when all u.s. troops were withdrawn, as far as the status of forces agreement that never really materialized. >> it's a very good question, wolf. but in an emergency situation, the president, as commander

he was in benghazi and the situation on the streets of benghazi were very difficult last fall and so that part of the operation was called off. now it seems they've gone back in. we have details and we know they grabbed him south of benghazi and from what sources are telling us, he didn't know what was coming. he was grabbed quickly. the reason he's on a ship and we're just confirming the name of the ship right now is that remember, they want to buy as much time as possible. they want to possibly interrogate him. they have certain ways in which they can gather information before he is lawyered up, mile an hour -- mirandized and then appears in court. what's not clear is how long they can keep him on the ship but from past experience it is normal for them to put them on a ship and that is where they can carry out some interrogations in the coming days and then shortly thereafter, they will bring him to the united states, we understand. the other important thing to know is that the f.b.i. has a sealed -- there is -- there are sealed documents against him. what i know from sources back

facility in benghazi in 2012. it is clear to me, however, that secretary clinton, after a week of facing the lions of the press is impressive form to take on the questions thrown at her.

so now benghazi is a distraction from benghazi? these right wingers stopped making sense a long time ago. bu the president is still focused on what's important as commander in chief. >> ke continue to think about and pray for the families of those who were killed during that terrible attack. there are a loet of dangers out there, a lot of challenges and our diplomats serve with incredible courage and valor in difficult situations. they need to know this country has their back and will always go after anybody who goes after us. >> joining me now are nbc terrorism analyst evan coleman, msnbc's kristol ball and patrick murphy, the first iraq war vet to serve in congress. thank you all for being here tonight. this is a big development. patrick, what's your take on how the right wing is responding to this capture? >> well, rev, it's the same old thing. whatever president does, good or bad, they are attacking it like it's not a good thing. the fact that rush limbaugh calls it a distraction, let's be clear. this is a great day for our cou

consulate in benghazi has been captured. his name is abu khattala and the pentagon is calling him a key figure in the attack that killed four americans. this is "outnumbered." today's hashtag one lucky guy, veteran himself, pete and he's outnumbered. >> thank you for having me. >> we're going to continue on with breaking news and then get everybody in on this. here is what we know at this point. the suspect is in custody on a u.s. navy ship and will face trial in the united states, we're told. u.s. special forces along with law enforcement led the operation to get him and the pentagon says there were no civilian casualties associated with the mission and all u.s. personnel involved in this have left libya. those are some key points. here's another one. this affected probably more than any other agency in the united states government the state department because those were their employees we lost that night so we're in the next 44 minutes or so scheduled to see a state department briefing on this so we'll take that and bring

consulate in benghazi. he had actually been designated a terrorist in january by the state department which called him a senior leader of the benghazi branch of ansar al shariah, the terror group the government blamed for the attack. the criminal charges were actually filed last year in july of 2013 and were just unsealed by the federal judge who's responsible for the case here in washington and that cheens that he will undoubtedly the u.s. will try to bring him here to face charges. being questioned now and we don't know when he'll be brought here but that's the plan. >> good news there. pete williams, thank you so much. >> you bet. >>> now to today's other big news. american troops going back to baghdad. up to 275 u.s. military personnel could be deploying to iraq with isis fighters moving closer to the capital. the troops mission to secure the u.s. embassy n. a letter to congress, president obama said, quote, this force will be in iraq until the situation situation is such that it's no longer needed. the

consulate in benghazi. we have new news on how he was taken and what is next for him. >>> plus, we also have hillary clinton's reaction to that news coming from the cnn town hall that obviously included her last night. you'll recall the attack happened on her watch when he was secretary of state. >>> and also ahead on "new day," president obama is set to meet with congressional leaders over the violence raging in iraq. will air strikes be on the table? that is just one key question that will be happening during that meeting. we're also looking at a scathen opinion piece coming from former vice president dick cheney, he's blasting president obama, blaming him for the current crisis in iraq. guys. >>> a lot of people looking at that saying there's a pot/kettle issue there. 48 minutes after the hour right now. lucky to be alive. circus acrothe bas in that horrific accident, sharing their stories of survival. that's next. the second his room is ready.yt so he knows exactly when he can check in and power up befo

katala one of several suspects in the benghazi attacks. there are other guys they want to get just as bad, but this is something they really wanted. said to be associted with the al qaeda affiliate element operating in that region and said to be very involved in the planning. benghazi is such a complicated situation in term of who did what, who was behind it, what elements were behind it. it's this constant sort of unending dialog, was it al qaeda, was it local al qaeda, affiliate elements in that part of libya, was it outsiders. that debate goes on and on. but katala very specifically is someone they feel had very good understanding that he was one of the key master minds, not the only, but one of the key master minds behind that attack. >> as you mentioned, other men involved, but getting that one man, the most wanted as you also said, barbara is so key to this. we want to bring in arwa damon. you can give us more an understanding of who this man is and how he operates as and john what you are seeing what he's been up to the last while.

facility, in benghazi. and as we learn that american forces captured this suspect, president obama is ordering 300 troops in iraq to guard american lives there. with the blood shed in that country getting worse by the day. >> an explosion in the baghdad district killed ten people. it was on a system 40 miles from baghdad. isis fighters may have got their hands on powerful american weapons. here is the disturbing revelations about that. canner. >> reporter: we are hearing about explosions in baghdad. fighting going on and killing in the religious lines and the scary news. isis fighters continue their push in the country and we are hearing that they now have acquired an american made stinger missile. they seized them from the iraqi military during the battles with the army and when the army fled their bases. this would give them a powerful new tool in battling iraqi and international forces there. as the situation worsens there, the white house is ordering 300 american troops to a rack to secure the embassy t

benghazi is controversial. it's a good thing. it's important to get people bho do harm to the united states. >> i think it's a good day. by all accounts, abu khatallah was involved. he was seen on video directing some of the fighters at the battle at the consulate. there are other people we need to get. i this think we should make it a pliert to get them soon. we should have i think had them before, but among them, mohammed jamal. we shouldn't be in any hurry to get abu khatallah to court. we should take as long as we can and as long as we want to interrogate him because of the intelligence he has, if he knows any of operational planning, could be important, could tell us more about the substance of the attack. >> a number of republicans, charles, came out, said they were really concerned that he would be read his miranda rights sooner and that the intelligence mining, if you will, won't happen. what about being tried in civilian u.s. court? >> i think it's a mistake. not in principle, a mistake, but when you have a guy like him

it was all about benghazi, how did he do? >> i like brett. he's one of my most favorite guys at fox. i think he showed he was doing his institutional obligation in asking that many questions. i think he actually got it wrong. i think hillary clinton's story was so neat so tight so without holes that there must be something there. don't you think? >> i think it's fair. >> how can it be so kent time and team again unless she's covering up something. that will be said in a blog on the fox nation. he had the right to ask those questions. i think there are other things that can be asked, questions about say climate change, what would you do about the checks of this country? why do you want to be president? if you want to be president, how would your economic vision different from president barak obama? there are a lot of things out there, but he went pure fox. >> governor, your to the here as i'm arguing a nexus between what the journalistic fox accusatory complex is and what house republicans have done which is make their governance for about pur

facility in benghazi in 2012. it is clear to me, however, that secretary clinton, after a week of facing the lions of the press is impressive form to take on the questions thrown at her. she went out and defended the obvious fact that ambassadors like chris stevens who was killed in benghazi take risks as part of their commitment to this country and to their mission in a dangerous world. shes used it as an opportunity to say the united states needs to be engaged in the world, even if it is dangerous, especially because it is dangerous. secretary clinton made clear we should not engaged militarily in today's iraq because the people of iraq aren't united behind the government there. the government itself wishes to be sectarian in both method, makeup and purpose. the government in baghdad is of, by and for the shiites to the exclusion of islam's sunni community. on domestic policy, secretary clinton said she has changed her mind on the issue of same-sex marriage, like the great majority of americans have. she took on

special forces capturing the suspect near benghazi. the first arrest in the 2012 attack that killed chris stevens and three other americans news correspondent jennifer griffin is live at the pentagon with the latest. jennifer? >> greta, fox news has learned that he is currently on board a u.s. navy vessel in international waters where is he being interrogated by a u.s. intelligence team, sources tell us that he will be sailed back by the u.s. navy back to the u.s. to give more time to talk to him, the justice department will not say whether he has been mirandized yet. based on past experience can hold detainee on board a ship for investigations up to a month. at some point he will be given a lawyer and brought to the u.s. district court in washington, d.c. where a criminal complaint filed last year was unsealed today, a known leader of ansar al sharia was nabbed just south of benghazi by a combined team of special operators. and a representative of the fbi. pentagon officials say there were no casualties during the operation, which too

benghazi is controversial. it's a good thing. it's important to get people bho do harm to the united states. >> i think it's a good day. by all accounts, abu khatallah was involved. he was seen on video directing some of the fighters at the battle at the consulate. there are other people we need to get. i this think we should make it a pliert to get them soon. we should have i think had them before, but among them, mohammed jamal. we shouldn't be in any hurry to get abu khatallah to court. we should take as long as we can and as long as we want to interrogate him because of the intelligence he has, if he knows any of operational planning, could be important, could tell us more about the substance of the attack. >> a number of republicans, charles, came out, said they were really concerned that he would be read his miranda rights sooner and that the intelligence mining, if you will, won't happen. what about being tried in civilian u.s. court? >> i think it's a mistake. not in principle, a mistake, but when you have a guy like him

compound in benghazi. intelligence gleaned from local libyans helped draw khatallah to the location. u.s. commandos captured him with no shots fired, no one getting hurt. a surprising feat, one former libyan official tells cnn, because khatallah usually surrounded himself with guards. u.s. commandos whisked him to a navy ship in the mediterranean to begin undergoing questioning for his role in the attack and anything else he knows about terrorist activity. officially the pentagon will say little. >> i'm not going to get into specifics on the actual execution of the operation. >> reporter: president obama touted the capture. >> it's important for us to send a message to the world that when americans are attacked, no matter how long it takes, we will find those responsible and we will bring them to justice. >> reporter: some wonder why it took so long when journalists like cnn's arwa damon were able to find and talk to call thia more than a year ago. >> we met with ahmed abu khatallah in public at the coffee

he is a key suspect in the deadly benghazi attack. he's in cuffeded one and he will face criminal charges before a jury in the united states. for analysis. rick has served as policy advisor to the foreign ambassador in the un. and served to ambassador to it six vice-presidents and secretaries of. great to have you both here today. rick, let me start with you. what were you thinking and feeling and when you listened to john kirby. >> john should have said i will not go in details and i am not going to tell you why it took so long. he got to that later. but in the beginning, he was fumbling and it sent a bad message. >> what was the message? >> the message is that we don't know what is going on here and we stumbled into this and it was not a strategy initiative. i think the opposite is true. if i was a spokesman i would have said i will not go in great detail of how we got this guy. we might have been watching him air long time to get this guy. >> it is interesting timing and maybe we were watching him 642 days. and cable news reporters

benghazi." now, indeed republicans could barely bring themselves to acknowledge, much less applaud a major development in a tragedy that sparked 13 public hearings, 25,000 pages of documents, and 50 separate hearings. as michael thomasky aptly points out in today's daily beast the republican response has been driven mostly by disappointment because just as they were all set to unveil their new select committee to keep benghazi in the news obama has to come and bring the alleged ringleader to justice. michael thomasky is a special correspondent at the daily beast and he does join me now. so michael, the sort of crux of the outrage over benghazi, the #benghazi, that version of it, has been driven by a video -- has been driven by an appearance that susan rice made on certain sunday shows after at tack. let me play that for you. >> this is a response to a hateful and offensive video that was widely disseminated throughout the arab and muslim world. >> and this is what you said about that particular

facility in benghazi in 2012. it is clear to me, however, that secretary clinton, after a week of facing the lions of the press is impressive form to take on the questions thrown at her. she went out and defended the obvious fact that ambassadors like chris stevens who was killed in benghazi take risks as part of their commitment to this country and to their mission in a dangerous world. shes used it as an opportunity to say the united states needs to be engaged in the world, even if it is dangerous, especially because it is dangerous. secretary clinton made clear we should not be engaged militariln today's iraq because the people of iraq aren't united behind the government there. the government itself wishes to be sectarian in both method, makeup and purpose. the government in baghdad is of, by and for the shiites to the exclusion of islam's sunni community. on domestic policy, secretary clinton said she has changed her mind on the issue of same-sex marriage, like the great majority of americans have. she took on

chairman, do you think that hillary clinton is trying to cut off discussion of benghazi? do you think she is trying to get out of testifying before the new house select committee? >> i don't doubt that but she has been playing politics with the issue from the beginning. now she is launching a political defense, an organized political defense. how did this chapter get leaked to the newspaper? because obviously their people are trying to stop anymore criticism she has been receiving on benghazi. she from the beginning as secretary of state should have known that this was al qaeda the entire time. now she is claiming somehow that this is a political attack? she we layed a part in the white house coverup of what this is all about in benghazi and it was a terrorist attack. our heros and diplomats have died and were murdered and she continues to play politics. hillary clinton is politics 20/7. this is no different it will not en. we will continue to pursue this. she needs to answer the tough questions as to what happened and why it is. >> let me ask you about that, you say that

consulate in benghazi. ahmed ab buy khatallah a man interviewed for this program last year was captured over the weekend. officials say this included luring him out of the city to a checkpoint. no shots were fired even though he did have security with him. he will head to the united states within days. president obama says he'll face the full weight of the u.s. justice system for an attack in which four americans lost their lives. >> when americans are attacked, no matter how long it takes, we will find those responsible and we will bring them to justice. i want to make sure that everybody around the world hears that message very clearly. because my first and most solemn duty as president and commander in chief is to keep the american people safe. >> we first told you about abu khatallah in our out front documentary the truth about benghazi. it was his only reported interview with any television network in the world. our arwa damon spoke to him in ben gadzy in 2013 and she's out front tonight with this excl

what's the crime in benghazi the crime in benghazi there are two crimes in benghazi the first is probably the violation of the arms export control act the shipping of guns into libya in the first place right that is actually illegal under the arms export control act any time the president of the united states or anybody in the executive branch if i were to ship weapons into libya to a terrorist group i'd be prosecuted the president of the united states has the ability to waive the arms export control act in order to ship weapons or money to terrorist groups he didn't do that in the arms export control act he didn't do that in libya and he shipped the weapons in anyway and with regard to benghazi the solid information is that the annex in benghazi the cia annex in benghazi was actually a weapons being used as a as a shipping point for weapons into turkey and then into syria that's number one in terms of hillary clinton's culpability in benghazi involuntary manslaughter be a pretty easy charge to bring involuntary manslaughter requires three basic elements the first element is that someone

iraq is blowing up, benghazi, this first benghazi arrest. of course, she will be asked about both. the book tour hasn't exactly been a walk in the park. some pretty tough questions for hillary clinton and some missteps. >> we came out of the white house not only dead broke, but in debt. we had no money when we got there. >> let me just clarify that i fully appreciate how hard life is for so many americans today. >> hillary, dead broke. really? >> that may not have been the most artful way of saying that bill and i have gone through a lot of different phases in our lives. >> so that's one for you changed your mind. >> i have to say, i think you are very persistent but you are playing with my words and playing with what is such an important issue. >> i'm just trying to clarify so i can understand. >> no, i don't think you are trying to clarify. >> when you are in the spotlight as a woman, you know you're being judged constantly. i'm done with that. i'm just done. >> you said you're just over it. >> i am over it. >> how about that. here now, brian stelter, our cnn senior media corresp

diplomatic outpost in benghazi. his name is ahmed abuhl khattalah. cnn has learned he is now in u.s. custody outside of libya. my cnn colleague arwa damon has met this the man. she joins me live now from iraq with much much more. you'll have to remind us who this man is, what he is suspected to have done, with regards to this attack. you were probably one of the first reporters on that outpost. take us through what this means, arwa. >> ahmed abdul khattalah was one of the main suspects in the benghazi attack that killed chris stevens as well as members of his security detail. khattalah was believed by the u.s. to be a leader of the islamist group that's believed to be behind the attack. we met him about a year ago. he did not seem to be acting like a man would was in hiding. he was very confident. we met in a public space in benghazi at a fairly well known hotel at a coffee shop. he was accompanied by a few members of one of the other islamist militias. he was debbing any sort of direct involvement in what took place at the u.s. consulate. he was not

on benghazi, clinton fielded a series of questions on what happened. since agents were in realtime contact with state department charlene lamb back in washington. >> no, i did not. i was in direct communication with everybody who was. my own assessment careened from, the video had something to do with it. the video had nothing to do with it it. >> reporter: clinton was also pressed about an e-mail that top aide jones sent on september 12ing, stating that it was the works of the al qaeda-affiliated group al sharia. >> why with the libyan ambassador was al sharia and yet telling the american people at the same time it was the video? >> well, bret, i think you have to take both ideas at the same time. >> reporter: fred burton is co-author of "under fire" the most detailed description of benghazi thus far. >> this was an attack. the agents there through it. those facts were conveyed back to washington and i can only conclude that politics entered into the decision making of what was to be said. >> the house committee is not supposed to begin deposing witne

diplomatic compound in benghazi, libya, but what you don't know is the story of the u.s. air force crew who flew in to take the victims and the survivors out. the commander of that mission now retired air force reserve major eric stall, the day before 9/11/12, the day of the benghazi attacks, he and his crew were on what was called bravo alert status in germany, ready for a mission to transfer a detainee out of guantanamo bay. it was on stand by as the situation in libya exploded. >> at the time we were on a 45-day deployment to ramstein air base and we were there to pick up high priority missions that needed to be accomplished. >> you were on this alert status for transfer from gitmo, but we're talking 9/11 here. >> yeah. you would have thought that we would have had a little bit more of an alert posture. >> bottom line, i mean, the alert status you were in, conceivably, if they could have called early enough, you coffee vak waited those people from benghazi. >> absolutely. if they would have called, we could have been down there three hours basically. a hurried up timel

what's the crime in benghazi the crime in benghazi there are two crimes in benghazi the first is probably the violation of the arms export control act the shipping of guns into libya in the first place right that is actually illegal under the arms export control act any time the president of the united states or anybody in the executive branch if i were to ship weapons into libya to a terrorist group i'd be prosecuted the president of the united states has the ability to waive the arms export control act in order to ship weapons or money to terrorist groups he didn't do that in the arms export control act he didn't do that in libya and he shipped the weapons in any way and with regard to benghazi the solid information is that the annex in benghazi the cia annex in benghazi was actually a weapons were it was being used as a as a shipping point for weapons in storage and then into syria that's number one in terms of hillary clinton's culpability in benghazi involuntary manslaughter. pretty easy charge to bring involuntary manslaughter requires three basic elements the first element is that

in a secret raid outside benghazi. he's the first accused perpetrator of the 2012 attacks to be nabbed and taken into u.s. custody. joining me now is the reporter who first broke this story: karen deyoung of the washington post. karen, thanks for joining us. how much detail do we know at this point about the operation that led to his capture? >> well, we don't know a whole lot. we know that it occurred on sunday afternoon washington time, that it was, according to the pentagon, months in the planning, that president obama approved it on friday, and that pretty much carried out without any violence at all. nobody was hurt, and he was very quickly removed from his villa in the south of benghazi. >> and done with or without the cooperation or coordination with the libyan government? >> the libyans were not informed prior to this operation. of course, there have been previous operations in libya, notably one last october where an al quaida suspect was abducted, and at that time the administration informed libya what it was

was the case in benghazi. started writing about it and have been following the issue ever since for the heritage blog and other publications. i was tremendously heartened when we did get the announcement of the house select committee, because watching committee hearing at fter committee hearing, television, ask a follow-up question, it became very tiresome. the obama administration side, we hear there are no more questions to be answered. we have answered every question we have been asked. all the information is out. we have put it all out. we have handed over thousands and thousands of documents. yes, they have. it is like looking for needles in a haystack. sideimes from the other you hear that no questions have been answered. that is not true. the committee has answered quite a few questions. you need to follow up. neither person who can then ask, ok, secretary panetta, you went to the president and told him we were under attack. what did you recommend we would do? nobody asked him that? did you not come in

diplomatic mission in benghazi. that's according to a criminal complaint filed last july. in that complaint, he was accused of providing material support to terrorists when he appears before the judge at 3:30 p.m. today, at that point he will be read the charges and assigned a lawyer. khattala had been held and questioned by the cia and u.s. military intelligence interrogators on board the "uss new york" since his capture by delta operators on june 15th at his villa south of benghazi. >> it's funny, you know. within an hour of us saying that we got him, the questions we were getting, are why did it take so long and how could this very dangerous guy be sipping mango juice at a cafe and you guys couldn't pick him up? now we're getting asked, well, wasn't he just low hanging fruit, and why does it matter? he matters. we believe we've got a strong days. >> reporter: how strong that case is we'll have a better idea when the judge reads the charge or charges at 3:30 p.m. today. we're awaiting that now. back to you. >> jennifer griffin live in washington, thanks. >>> iraqi forces

the benghazi attack. in the book she writes this. "that's not how it works," talking about seeing cables that would get to her level. "that's not how it works. it shouldn't and it didn't." do you see parallels between clinton and secretary shinseki who says he wasn't getting the information from lower level people? >> i think that's a good point. i also think that brings us balk to barack obama. here's the president that in 2005 when he was senator, he said he was going to fix this issue in regard to the va. getting to your question though, barack obama also said you recall in 2008 that no detail, no issue is too small for him to tackle. yet, now he comes on television two days ago and said, listen, the secretary of the vo couldn't possibly know the details underneath because it's unfortunate he wasn't getting the information. hillary clinton saying the same thing. well, it's too much ma nusha for me to understand what is going on. through the second of state. now you're launching a political response and saying that you don't want t

the benghazi suspect nabbed by u.s. special forces. he is on board a navy ship where he is being interrogated for the very latest on the suspect's slow trip to the u.n. fox news security correspondent correspondent jennifer griffin joins us from the pentagon. >> u.s. officials tell it me that khatallah is talking right now. in in fact, is he giving his military interrogators a history lesson on ansar al cherie a all of this is taking place on board the uss new york. officials say they will be taking their time as they steam towards the united states under normal circumstances it would take about a week for a ship to get from the mediterranean to the u.s. in terms of ansar al sharia, u.s. intelligence knew that the group was behind the attack on the u.s. compound in benghazi, almost immediately after the attack. there was an internal email within the state department suggesting as much within the first 24 hours of the attack. u.s. forces have been tracking khatallah since about five weeks after the benghazi attack. chairman of the joint

. >> brett asked 15 total, 12 directly were about benghazi. if the fox professionals who picked up this can't lay a glove on glinton, how does is that going to be? >> joining us now, lauren ashburn, a fox news contributor and former usa today executive who hosts social buzz on the woikt. rick gronell and craig crawford, founder of the trail mix blog and a former columnist for cq. so it seems like brett and greta and fox are getting it from both sides, too hard or too soft is in the interview. >> and the is most surprising was negative discussion from conservatives going after both of them. we had some people who wrote into our facebook page, mackenzy mark said the interviews with hillary were a joke, this is why i no longer join fox news. i couldn't agree with you more say david nathan vigor. fox has traded boxing gloves for mitt mittens. carol said, i think it was soft, it made her look good. >> let's put on the boxing gloves. >> i had a big advantage here, howie. >> many arthritics thought it was soft. >> i think there are a lot of hillary h

official says the benghazi suspect will be moved to u.s. soil this weekend though the justice department offered no guidance on the timing accept to emphasize the situation is fluid and attorney general eric holder will make the call. while he is being transported by the defense department, a pentagon spokesman punts timing questions to other questions. >> he's in the custody of law enforcement personnel and all the proceedings regarding him are being handled by the justice department. >> since his capture on june 15th, he has been held on the uss new york where he has been questioned by fbi, cia and defense intelligence agency personnel. while he is described as the muscle on the ground during the 2012 attack and not the master planner, the pentagon insisted he is important. >> we believe and gathered the evidence to support the notion that he was a key figure in the benghazi attacks. >> reporter: while a u.s. official says he has given his interrogator a history lesson about alshria, a former fbi agent who has worked high profile cases li

part of a tape, the benghazi coalition benghazi panel at the heritage foundation. dana milbank showed up for the event, wrote a column about some of the ugliness that occurred. a nine-minute clip of the event was also released and showed the reaction of the panel when an american university law student noted she did not see muslim representatives represented at the event. here's a bit more of that response. >> there are 1.2 billion muslims in the world today. of course not all of them are radicals. the majority of them are peaceful people. the radicals are estimated to be between 15% to 25% according to all intelligence services around the world. you're looking at 180 million to 300 million people dedicated to the destruction of western civilization. >> so are you an american? you're an american citizen. so as an american citizen, you sat in this room and instead of standing up and saying a question or asking something about our four americans that died, and what our government is doing to correct the problem, you stood there to make a point about peaceful muslims.

mission in benghazi. as you said em bass door chris stevens was killed in that attack, so were three other ericans. it's been a political lightening rod. -- republicans have accused the white house of not fortifying the mission enough and trying to cover up. there have been a number of hearings evening a select committee looking in to this. we have reaction, of course, from capitol hill applauding the capture, senator mccain saying he thinks that the suspect should be brought to guantanmo. held there and then face charges. we don't know exactly where he will be brought to, but he will come to the us u.s. to face those charges. there are still about a dozen or so others that the u.s. would like to capture, would like to get in records to these attacks and the white house said they will continue to hunt for those suspects. back to you. >> lisa stark, thank you very much. a rarity in washington as it was kept secret since sunday. we want to reminds you that we are watching right now the state department brie

in a secret raid outside benghazi. he's the first accused perpetrator of the 2012 attacks to be nabbed and taken into u.s. custody. joining me now is the reporter who first broke this story: karen deyoung of the washington post. karen, thanks for joining us. how much detail do we know at this point about the operation that led to his capture? >> well, we don't know a whole lot. we know that it occurred on sunday afternoon washington time, that it was, according to the pentagon, months in the planning, that president obama approved it on friday, and that it was pretty much carried out without any violence at all. nobody was hurt, and he was very quickly removed from his villa in the south of benghazi. >> and done with or without the cooperation or coordination with the libyan government? >> the libyans were not informed prior to this operation. of course, there have been previous operations in libya, notably one last october where an al quaida suspect was abducted, and at that time the administration informed libya what

i think it's benghazi. you have the arrest of ahmed abu khattala and this is a key suspect and this brings back benghazi, a victory for special forces and for the administration. but again, another reminder of benghazi. and we know who that is of concern to. >> right. we have already seen people like joen boehner speaker of the house say i applaud special forces and the fbi for their work. i look forward to hearing more about how this raid was planned and executed and basically saying that he wants military personnel to have time to question the suspect. lindsay graham initial praise, little criticism. this is -- benz is such a touchstone issue for republicans. this is without question i think good news for president obama, administration to say, look, we followed up on this. we promised we would get the people responsible for this. we have gotten one of them. i don't think it will quiet all republican critique about what happened that day on september 11th, 2012. but it's a significant accomplishment for t

part of a tape, the benghazi coalition benghazi panel at the heritage foundation. dana milbank showed up for the event, wrote a column about some of the ugliness that occurred. a nine minute clip of the event was also released and showed the reaction of the panel when an american university law student noted she did not see muslim representatives represented at the event. there's a bit more of that response. >> there are 1.2 billion muslims in the world today. of course not all of them are radicals, the majority of them are peaceful people. the rads cals are estimated to be between 15 to 25% according to all intelligence services around the world. you're looking at 180 million to 300 million people dedicated to the destruction of western civilization. >> so are you an american? you're an american citizen. you sat in this room and instead of standing up and saying a question or asking something about our four americans that died, and what our government is doing to correct the problem, you stood there to make a point about peaceful muslims. i wish you brought 10 wit

tripoli's different from benghazi. benghazi, i would say that the intelligence environment is probably not very permissive, very dangerous for americans. as we saw and witnessed in benghazi two years ago. so maybe we don't have the attention to support that. we've seen the people on the fbi website. i'm having a hard time not being a law enforcement individual reading between the lines on this -- on these individuals who are pictured. the fbi said make -- maybe hans can say something about that. but they say these people are of interest, we'd like to talk to them. that's what it says. it's very unique language that i'm sure has more meaning than i'm able to devine from it. or maybe they just got these individuals' pictures taken on surveillance cameras recovered from the -- from benghazi. another possibility is maybe operational planning is ongoing. as i said at the end of my talk, i don't want this special committee to say anything publicly that would undermine our ability to bring these people to justice. i would lik

asked 15 questions, 12 about benghazi. if the fox professional whose cook up this obsession cannot lay a glove on clinton, how good is the committee going to be? >> was fox fair? we now have fox news contributor and former usa executive who hopes associate buzz. >> and a fox news contributor and former spokesman in the bush administration. and craig crawford founder of the trail mix blog and former columnist. it seems like they are get sitting, fox, from both side, too soft or too hard. >> and the conservatives are going after this, after bret and greta. people wrote into facebook page and said the interviews were hick anything were a joke, and this is why i no longer watch fox. >> david said, i coy agree more, and fox traded boxing gloves for mittens and another said it was soft and made her look good. >> i have a big advantage here. >> so, most critics thought it was solid, why the complaints from the right? there are a lot of hillary clinton haters out there. >> fact; she doesn't answer the question. what is bret suppos

this guy was in benghazi. it's in total chaos right now and you want to make sure that you do it without the americans going in to rescue him. and you want to do it in a surgical way and they were able to carry this out with that kind of precision and got it at, relatively speaking, minimal costs, no costs to american lives. there are reasons to wait in cases like this. the other issue here, of course, is the fallout for the individuals connected to the initial attack hillary clinton is under constant siege. she has seemed to make an about-face from earlier comments that this was a settled issue. take a listen to that. >> there are answers, not all of them not enough, frankly. i'm still looking for answers because it was a confusing and difficult time. there are still some unanswered questions. it was, after all, the fog of war. but i am absolutely convinced that the united states and all of our professionals, including the congress, is piecing together the best information we can find. >> congressman, does th

what's the crime in benghazi the crime in benghazi that there are two crimes in benghazi the first is probably the violation of the arms export control act the shipping of guns into libya in the first place right that is actually illegal under the arms export control act any time the president of the united states or anybody in the executive branch if i were to ship weapons into libya to a terrorist group i'd be prosecuted the president of the united states has the ability to waive the arms export control act in order to ship weapons or money to terrorist groups he didn't do that in the arms export control act he didn't do that in libya and he shipped the weapons in anyway and with regard to benghazi the solid information is that the annex in benghazi the cia annex in benghazi was actually a weapons grounds is being used as a as a shipping point for weapons into turkey and then into syria that's number one in terms of hillary clinton's culpability in benghazi involuntary manslaughter be a pretty easy charge to bring involuntary manslaughter requires three basic elements the first elem

>> yes, we must wring those responsible from benghazi to justice. and sadly, hillary clinton remains at large. [laughter] oh, wait, and yesterday this happened. >> u.s. special forces moved in and captured the so-called mastermind of the attack in benghazi. >> the u.s. was able to capture ahmed abu khattalah, the leader of an islamist terrorist group in libya. >> stephen: yes, we got our man. justice has been served. u-s-a! u-s-a! u-s-a is what they want us to think. but it's going to take more than what we demanded to satisfy us. >> why did it take so long to bring this guy in? >> what took so long? >> for those keeping track, it's been 642 days. >> it took 642 days after the attacks to land one suspect. >> this guy has been drinking strawberry frappes and lattes for 642 days. what's up? >> stephen: what's up? why did it take so long? khattalah was interviewed by "the new york times" sipping a strawberry frappe on a patio. they could have just looked for the terrorist with the frosty pink mustache. [laughter] president bush did not wait 642 days to

. >> the arrest of a senior terrorist leader linked to the benghazi attack that killed four americans, the latest detail this is morning. >>> new nbc news/wall street journal polls on president obama's handling of overseas matters. >>> and do americans to want see hillary clinton in the white house. >>> and a late night phone call leading to a cease fire in raush and ukraine? >>> and massive flooding in the midwest, and a dangerous accident caught on camera. >>> hello. i'm betty. they got their man, abu khattala has been apprehended for the killing of four americans in benghazi, including u.s. ambassador chris stevens. we have the latest. >> reporter: nearly two years after the attack that killed three americans, the president in pittsburgh took a victory lap. >> it's important for us to send a message to the world that when americans are attacked, no matter how long it takes, we will find those responsible and we will bring them to justice. >> reporter: the operation, planned for months, was carried out late sunday night near benghazi. what took so so long? weeks after the attack, he

they're not looking for the benghazi case, per say. i assume they have enough evidence to convict the guy or else they wouldn't have brought him here. >> that's correct. >> what are they talking to him about and how do they get him to talk? >> first and foremost, when you have a high-value detainee, it's about current intelligence, walking him backwards about blot ploths under way, who's involved, co-conspirator, communication notes, things that speak to national security interests and breaking up lives. an attack of upmost importance, that will be dealt with. there may be current intelligence involved with saria or the brigade that khatallah himself had form lated. all those things tie in together. >> how can you get full information out of someone who's a hardened terrorists. you don't use force anymore, correct? >> that's correct. >> how do you get them to talk? >> never use force. it wasn't part of my training. >> you are one of the ones who believes that has nothing to do with valuable intelligence. >> absolutely. how do you get t