. >> why should darrell issa have all the fun? >> well, yeah. >> darrell issa is going to be -- [ all speak at once ] >> we have been waiting since 2008 for republicans to have an outbreak of sanity, to realize demographics are against them, they have to come up with a governing agenda. ted cruz gets joined by ernst, by possibly corey gardner. >> i don't agree. [ all speak at once ] >> i think speaker boehner comes out with more members and a stronger hand in his house. i think republicans in the senate and in the house will say, look, we have leverage now. we can proceed very strategically, put the pressure on obama. i think we'll see more and more of that. the party out of power always has a little more of a problem -- >> and then hillary clinton comes in and says, all right, you kids, you can't run this place. >> here's the problem with that scenario. the people who will get elected, on the house side and senate candidates, are going to be more aligned with ted cruz than mitch mcconnell. >> right. that's the problem. >> rand pa

issa. he will no longer be the chair of that. that plus more in the senate and house continuing to do their investigations. it is a great way to tie up the administration and make your point. always taking not her message and your having to come up and go on sunday shows or remind people of whatever your cause is at the time because there were a lot of you makes is a use -- people show up and tie them up and make them come for staff meetings -- this is one way darrell issa's committee feels like they have hurt the health care law is just by bringing in officials constantly so they have to testify in are not doing other things they need to do. >> on the foreign policy side, you saw that in the past few months, but it seemed like the pentagon and the state department and intelligence officials were coming up. , operationstions overseas -- anything across the board. it does tie them up. the appropriation that goes into that and the sheer amount of time that people all the way up to cabinet mem

i think is he going to have a similar adversarial role that darrell issa has had. you don't think he would be more aggressive or less aggressive? you think hejó)go would be the same? >> it's hard to say, honestly, but i think is he going to carry on that tradition of being very adversarial a opponent of the president. >> last question. you think that congressman paul ryan out for 2016 as a contender? >> i riding this tax plan. there is no reason why you can't use to write this plan and run on that plan in 2016. >> he voted against simpson bowls don't forget. that's a little piece of history. panel, thank you. straight ahead, a state of emergency declared as giant snow storm unloading on parts of the nation. that's not all. live team coverage next. the story you cannot miss. this is the best story ever. remember the army specialist who wasn't allowed to adopt a dog he served with? well, tonight, the soldier and best friend are back together. you will see this absolutely amazing reunion. don't forget to subscribe to greta talk. brand new ikqhjo cost. latest episode.

congressman darrell issa sending the mit economist a letter requesting he appear on december 9th, a request also to cms administrator marilyn tavenner. the chairman saying, quote: >> gruber triggered a firestorm afe was caught on cam that at -- caa at least six times saying the stupidity of the american voter helped in passing the the controversial law. and now lawmakers want answers. all right, harris, if i am sitting at that committee -- >> oh, i know what i want to ask. >> i ask if i'm darrell issa, i say your name is jonathan gruber? yes. you play the video. is that you in this video? yes. is that you in this video saying that you deliberately wrote the law so that states had to set up the exchanges to get subsidies? yes. no further questions, and let the supreme court -- >> and harris, would you like to stand up and -- >> harris, what are you doing here? [laughter] >> oh, there's harris. all right, so i would want to know, mr. gruber, based on what you've told us about what sounds like fraud, duping the people with not telling them everything they needed to know to make a good decision

yeah i think we've got to look at darrell issa. he's made a name for himself as chair of the house oversight committee. now also someone like kevin falconer. san diego is a vote-rich city. he could come into play as well. >> all right, those are known names too. about governorship, jerry brown termed out, then who? >> let's start with the current lieutenant governor and former san francisco mayor, gavin newsom. a likely possibility certainly to run. he won't be alone. you want to also look at former los angeles mayor and latino antonio via ga rosa, attractive candidate. maybe someone like darrell issa. termed-out state senate president. he too could be considered attractive. and if you want to look for a long shot, a long shot now, there's always somebody like libby schaaf, brun's protege, former employee. new mayor of oakland, she could be a player as well. if we look at republicans, neel kashkari, he's put in his time. with a campaign behind him he's going to have more experience and a lot more public recognition. californians ha

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lear to weigh in republican congressman darrell issa of california. he is the chairman of the house oversight and government reform committee. congressman, welcome back to the show. always good to have you on. i got to tell you, this whole idea that the internet needs to be regulated by like a utility scares me because i know just how heavily regulated utilities really are. what is your reaction? >> well, first of all it is inappropriate for the president to call on an independent agency to make a decision the way he wants to make it. he already got to a point, three out of five democrats on the commission but, secondly, in washington be be careful what you wish for. he says he wants the internet regulated like a utility. well, guess what? your electric utility charges you by the watt that you buy, but if you buy peak watts, they charge you more. if you buy off peak watts you get a deal. you know you can can regulate like your electric utility and discover, guess what? it can be worse, not better. if you look at your phone bill, you know, congress and

. >> why should darrell issa have all the fun? >> well, yeah. >> darrell issa is going to be -- [ all speak at once ] >> we have been waiting since 2008 for republicans to have an outbreak of sanity, to realize demographics are against them, they have to come up with a governing agenda. tud cruz gets joined by ernst, by possibly corey gardner. >> i don't agree. [ all speak at once ] >> i think speaker boehner comes out with more members and a stronger hand in his house. i think republicans in the senate and in the house will say, look, we have leverage now. we can proceed very strategically, put the pressure on obama. i think we'll see more and more of that. the party out of power always has a little more of a problem -- >> and then hillary clinton comes in and says, all right, you kids, you can't run this place. >> here's the problem with that scenario. the people who will get elected, on the house side and senate candidates, are going to be more aligned with ted cruz than mitch mcconnell. >> right. that's the problem. >> rand pa

some democrats even fear he won't be so unlike darrell issa. he also, like i said, he is also very aggressive investigator. >> well, who else is noteworthy here? buck mckeon, a familiar face to our viewers, is no longer going to be armed services chairman. he's stepping down from congress. he's retiring. mack thornberry, i understand, republican of texas, will take this over. what does that mean for the military and defense policy? >> well, thornberry's been second highest ranking republican on the committee for the past four years. and he had the implicit endorsement of chairman mckeon ever since mckeon announced he would be retiring at the end of the year. he's been working on some of the biggest issues that face policy, like acquisition program and a variety of other things. >> and then also noteworthy is judiciary committee bob goodlatte, he will retain that post. what does that mean for immigration? >> well, it's probably going to be more of the same, frankly. i mean, you have the same chairman who's -- you know, the committee did approve

also ahead this thursday, we get a response from republican congressman darrel issa. plus, the analysis of david brooks and e.j. dionne on the political implications of the president's address to the nation. >> woodruff: then, as winter approaches, the challenges mount for refugees and the displaced worldwide whose numbers are at their highest since world war ii. >> people see that in the middle east it's warm, but it's not. some areas are were cold. they have negative temperatures. and people can suffer tremendously because many of them have very precarious shelter. >> ifill: an american veteran of the vietnam war returns to the country for one last mission to disarm unexploded bombs left over from the conflict. >> the defense department estimates that about 10% did >> the defense department estimates that about 10% did not blow up as designed. they fell to the ground in tact, now today 40 years later they're exploding and they kill and maim people. >> woodruff: plus, remembering the life and work of the acclaimed director, mike nichols who captivated audiences on sc

>> at the time, darrell issa and some others were asking that we call in people in the reagan administration who dealt with the savings and loan crisis. closing a large number of banks and savings and loans. we had huge problems. doing the huge issues was the right thing, because he would not schedule bills -- they could not close down the savings and loans that were insolvent because they could not pay off the depositors, and there would be panic, obviously. that would spread throughout the system. they could pay off the depositors and closed on the institutions, so they had to leave them open. that was big in texas and some other parts of the country. finally, that was dealt with and a lot of institutions were closed. the reconciliation trust things to take up all the bad mortgages and work the system through. a lot of us felt that that was a model that was appropriate for the housing side of the whole crisis. but it was not followed and we still have had a lot more pain on the part of the individual home mortgage buyers and in the and in thehe -- economy as a result of them and not lookin

. >> reporter: california's darrell issa, who chairs the government oversight committee, says nearly 400,000 of those people were actually new dental subscribers who don't count. on twitter the secretary of health and human services called it a mistake. >> it's a mistake to bring false information to congress. it's a mistake to mislead the american people. >> reporter: why would they take the risk of deliberately padding the numbers by 5%? >> i think they needed to get to that 7 million. they would do anything to get to that 7 million. >> reporter: issa has called a hearing for december 9 where he also wants to hear from jonathan gruber, the economist who boasted in recently discovered speeches that language in the obamacare law he helped to write was deliberately mislead. >> lack of transparency say huge political advantage, and basically, you know, call it the stupidity of the american voter or whatever. >> i think the american people need to hear what he has to say. we don't fear his trying to say, "i didn't really mean they were stupid. i didn't really mean they needed to be dece

. >> reporter: gruber wants the stories told to congress.Ñi darrell issa says he'll call gruber before the house government oversight committee as soon as early december. >> have you reached out to him yet? and is he being responsive? >> what do you think? >> reporter: i'm guessing that's a no. democrats say gruber doesn't speak forxdñr him and that his e writing the law has been exaggerated though he was paid $400,000 in consulting fees by the administration. his comments add fuel to the all-out assault on obamacare republicans are planning for january, when they control both houses of congress. marcia blackburn of tennessee. >> it gives us an opportunity to dig a little deeper, ask a few more questions and push a little harder to get provisions of this law enacted. >> reporter: two of the provisions they like leastÑiq the employer mandate to cover employees and the individual mandate whichÑi requires most americans to have insurance. both are at the heart of the law and, scott, any bills that attempted to do away with them would likely be met with a presidential veto. >> reporter:

darrell issa, thanks for joining us. are you prepared to vote for an authorization of this mission in iraq? >> i am, george. i was just in both baghdad and erbil in addition to six other nations in the middle east between august and erbil just a few weeks ago. the fact is we're already there. we've had to be there. the government in baghdad is still quite delusional, if you will, about what the real impact is. they're still talking about long-term training before they're ready to fight, so the fact is that if we're to protect the gains we made against islamic extremism, my marines from camp pendleton and others are going to have to go back again. >> they're going to go back. should they be in combat position? >> iraqis should fight for their country. there's no question at all. they've been trained and they should do it. the fact is the kurds are willing to do it. i have no doubt whatsoever that the kurds will fight and all they need is our air support and our technical know-how and they will do it. when it comes to the

darrell issa says he'll call gruber before the house government oversight committee as soon as early december. have you reached out to him yet? >> the staff is. >> and is he being responsive? >> what do you think? >> reporter: i'm guessing that's a no. democrats say gruber doesn't aieak for him, and that his role writing the law has been exaggerated, though he was paid $400,000 in consulting fees by the administration. his comments add fuel to the all-out assault on obamacare republicans are planning for january, when they control both houses of congress. marcia blackburn of tennessee. >> it gives us an opportunity to dig a little deeper, ask a few more questions and push a little harder to get provisions of this law off the books. >> reporter: two of the provisions they like least are the employer mandate to cover employees, and the individual mandate which requires most americans to have insurance. both are at the heart of the law ttd, scott, any bills that attempted to do away with them would likely be met with a presidential veto. >> reporter: nancy cordes on capitol hill. thank

. >> reporter: california's darrell issa, who chairs the government oversight committee, says nearly 400,000 of those people were actually new dental subscribers, who don't count. on twitter, the secretary of health and human services called it a mistake. >> it's a mistake to bring false information to congress. it's a mistake to mislead the american people. >> reporter: why would they take the risk of deliberately padding the numbers by 5%? >> i think they needed to get to that 7 million. they would do anything to get to that 7 million. >> reporter: issa has called a hearing for december 9, where he also wants to hear from jonathan gruber, the economist who boasted in recently discovered speeches that language in the obamacare law he helped to write was deliberately misleading. >> lack of transparency is a huge political advantage, and basically, you know, call it the stupidity of the american voter or whatever. >> i think the american people need to hear what he has to say. we don't fear his trying to say, "i didn't really mean they were stupid. i didn't really mean they needed to

>> at the time, darrell issa and some others were asking that we call in people in the reagan administration who dealt with the savings-and-loan crisis, which involved closing a large number of banks and savings and loans. we had a huge problem. it was one of the underlying issues. he would that schedule bills. they could not close down the savings and loans that were insolvent because they could not pay off the depositors and there would be panic. that would spread threat the system. he wouldn't schedule bills to provide more money to the insurance so they could pay off the depositors if they close down. they had to keep these institutions open. it was big in texas and some other parts of the country. finally, that was dealt with and some institutions were closed and they set up a reconciliation trust thing to take up all of that. a lot of us felt that was a model that was appropriate for the housing side of this whole crisis. it was not followed. we still have a lot more pain on the part of individual home mortgage buyers and the economy as a result of the way it was handled. they didn't l

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issa, you can double that with the senate. >> reporter: another benefit, the power to investigate. think about all those benghazi hearings. and finally -- >> the third power they have is the power of nominations and appointments. all presidential nominations have to go through the senate, so now the republicans can decide how miserable they want to make the president's life when it comes to judicial nominati nominations. >> reporter: the power of nominations, which could include slamming the door on a supreme court prospect or two, should anybody in the high court retire. all of these tools empower a newly minted republican-led congress, but unless those leaders get too comfortable, one final observation. >> here's the biggest mistake republicans can make, one republicans made in the 1990s when they thrashed bill clinton in the midterm. the president is a wounded beast, no question about that, but the president still contains the power. it's as simple as taking the big blue airplane to going wherever he wants to in america, but the president is the last word because he has, what, e

darrell issa saying, the claim this was only an accident strains credulity. do you agree? >> again, i hate to go back to gruber, they've lost a lot of credibility because of gruber. i think the gruber thing makes the credibility problem more acute. i was talking to a former government economist this week, he said maybe there's some intentionality. if you reduce that number by 400,000, you get under the threshold. they got credit for passing the 7 million threshold. they'll get credit by an increase larger than -- really? he wouldn't put it pass them. gerri: wheels within wheels. that's taking -- misleading people to a whole new level. (?) the problem is so serious that health and human services secretary is apologizing the mistake is unacceptable. i will be communicating that clearly to the department. she said that on her twitter account. i have to tell you, i don't know about you. you've spent a lot of time looked at obamacare. we've reported on the lie, you can keep your coverage. you can keep your doctor. prices aren't going to rise. all of that turns out not to be tru

. >>> oversight commit chairman darrel issa is demanding the department of homeland security turn over a readable copy of a report containing details of the white house fence-jumping incident. lawmakers have been able to see a copy of the report but they weren't able to keep copies and portions of the report, they say, are blacked out. isis set a monday deadline for homeland security to turn that over. >> people have a right to express their views and grievances. but they do not have the right to put their fellow citizens or their property at risk. as i've said before, violence will not be tolerated. >>> earlier this week that was missouri governor jay nixon addressing fears that there may be violent unrest if the grand jury does not indict police officer darren wilson who shot unarmed teen michael brown about three months ago. we are expecting that grand jury decision any day now. joining us, charlie brennan who's been covering this story since it erupted. back in august, charlie, if you read "the washington post" which had big full-page spreads about this, you watch some of the netwo

congressman darrell issa asking jonathan gruber to do just that finally. >> on the hill. and the president is wondering if hillary clinton will pass voters', quote, new car smell test. it's sod to me. how his policies could be hurting her likely presidential run. >> an awful comment. plus, were you born to be single? scientists said they've found a gene that may actually doom romance -- >> but i'm married. that's a so awkward. i hope that's not true. all that plus our hashtag one lucky guy. "outnumbered" at the top of the hour. jon: a lot of people don't have the new car smell because they can't afford new cars in this economy. >> that'd be a good line for hillary. jon: harris, andrea, thank you. heather: well, a fox extreme weather alert to bring you now, it's a wild temperature shift that could spark flooding around buffalo, new york, the area that got seven feet of snow, and now they've had quite a bit of a warm-up. rick leventhal is live for us in south buffalo. hi there, rick. how warm is it today? >> reporter: it's over 60 degrees here, heather, so all that snow, 84

however, i do think the house led by darrell issa was not very subtle or skilled in its investigation of the irs scandal. i think the senate will get a second shot at 0tú'ñm you grant lois lerner immunity, then she has to testify, otherwise she's in contempt. >> but she says she doesn't know anything or -- you know how it is. >> if she lies, she's in big trouble. well, i think some of these lies are pretty obvious, if she says, i didn't have anything to do with it, there's quite a lot of evidence. she has to be very careful because if she's given immunity sheskj the clear if she tells the truth. >> so are you -- you're kind of confident that thel"8ñ senate i going to come in now, put a little more pressure in conjunction with the house and get this woman to tell what she knows or at least put her in there that she has to say something? >> yeah, i think i would have liked to have seen this the first time around. with the house, that opportunity was blown. so we get a second shot. i don't know whether it would actually happen. >> what about the attorney general not bringing the case

also, darrell issa democrats haven't liked on a lot of issues thinks the congress shouldn't let federal policy fights get in the way of policy making in d.c. >> all right, well, we'll see if senator hillenbrand smokes pot with mitch mcconnell. >>> war and peace. let's play "hardball." ♪ ♪ >>> good evening, i'm chris math news back in washington. let me start tonight with the big question. will there be war or peace? if the president means that he will act on millions of illegal immigrants by the end of the year. >> if the republicans mean it, there will be war. this is like the weeks before world war i when both sides set up ultimatums, and put up iron walls of what they would accept. is this what the election gave

however, i do think the house led by darrell issa was not very subtle or skilled in its investigation of the irs scandal. i think the senate will get a you grant lois lerner immunity, then she has to testify, otherwise she's in contempt. >> but she says she doesn't know anything or -- you know how it is. >> if she lies, she's in big trouble. well, i think some of these lies are pretty obvious, if she says, i didn't have anything to do with it, there's quite a lot of evidence. she has to be very careful because if she's given immunity sheskj the clear if she tells the truth. >> so are you -- you're kind of confident that thel"8ñ senate i going to come in now, put a little more pressure in conjunction with the house and get this woman to tell what she knows or at least put her in there that she has to say something? >> yeah, i think i would have liked to have seen this the first time around. with the house, that opportunity was blown. so we get a second shot. i don't know whether it would actually happen. >> what about the attorney general not bringing the case to the grand jury as he'

that is currently chaired by darrell issa. four republicans are in the running to replace him. republican leaders spoke to reporters this morning after their meeting in the capital focusing mainly on the keystone xl pipeline. >> good morning, everyone. as we approach the thanksgiving taken, it's appropriate to a moment to reflect on the freedoms and opportunities we enjoy as americans. i find myself grateful for the group i get to work with in trying to make sure we continue to have great opportunities in this country moving forward. to the been listening american people, we have had hundreds of bills that will expand opportunities across this advancednd we have solutions to make peoples's lives better. what we need right now is to come together and unite around those policies that we can move forward on, focus on what unites us, rather than what divides us. let's come together as a white house and congress, the publicans and democrats, senate and house, and let's get the job done. tot night, i was encouraged see the senate passed the bipartisan childcare options bill for low i

. >> host: it is just an investigative report at one point and then -- >> you have darrell issa bringing to the attorney general before the congress and there are these hearings and he is held in contempt. is that part of the reason? >> guest: it doesn't become partisan, how would you not call the attorney general in for a hearing if he doesn't answer the subpoena how do you not consider contempt why he is a partisan automatically? me as if seen as partisan i argue in the book but it's a it's as fun as partisan as the campaign not that it wouldn't be seen to some degree in that way there's a deliberate campaign in my opinion to these stories and a negative in a negative way and the reporter's controversial lives. the whistleblower is controversy over. if you can discredit all those things you don't have to answer the facts of the story that are damaging and acknowledge they gave false information to congress. all of that stuff is true. they stepped in with executive privilege. why if this was a story that wasn't important? to some degree it was successful including the managers to either

also, darrell issa democrats haven't liked on a lot of issues thinks the congress shouldn't let federal policy fights get in the way of policy making in d.c. >> all right, well, we'll see i smoking pot. thanks for joining us. >> thanks, lawrence. >>> chris hayes is up next. >>> tonight on "all in" -- >> when you play with matches, you take the risk of burning yourself. and he's going to burn himself if he continues to go down this path. >> hot takes from the house speaker after the president promises executive action on immigration. and on obamacare, john boehner claims a mandate from voters. >> they don't like obamacare, i don't like it, it's hurting our economy. >> we'll ask why the law remains unpopular. then, meet the next head of the senate environment committee. >> first of all, global warming is not taking place. it's kind of laughable right now with all the records that have being sent. >> the president pushes back against criticism from michael jordan on his golf game.

all the investigationious have seen on the house side with darrell issa, you can now double down on that with the senate. >> reporter: another benefit, the power to investigate. think about all of those benghazi hearings. and finally -- >> the third power they have is the power of nominations and appointments. all presidential nominations have to go through the senate. so now the republicans can decide how ms.ble they want to make the president's life when it comes to judicial nominations. >> raise your right hand to god -- >> reporter: the power of nominations, which could include slamming the door on a supreme court prospect or two should anybody in the high court retire. all of these tools empower a newly minted republican-led congress. but lest those leaders get too comfortable. >> here is two of the biggest mistakes the republicans can make. the president is a wounded beast, no question about that. but the president still contains formidable power. it's as simple as taking that big blue airplane and going wherever he wants to in america. the president is the last word when it comes

on the house side, darrell issa's oversight committee has been tough on attorney general eric holder, on the fast and furious issue and so many other issues. because of that it's probably going to be a discussion about whether they really want to do it in the democratic controlled lame duck session which starts next week or they're going to wait until the next congress which starts in six or seven weeks. >> it's so interesting in light of the midterm election results. we have been talking about what next, what happens. now we see a choice that the president is making and we have an example we'll see played out before our very eyes about whether or not you're going to get a fight between the president and the congress. the president and the majority. it's a very interesting example, case in point. >> it is. even though i just said that there has been a lot of tension between many republicans in congress and the obama justice department, the flip side, you also have republicans in the senate who -- several of them are making very clear they want to be president who are being a lot more

slightly different tone than we're hearing from your counterpart darrell issa who's issuing subpoenas against the administration. based on what you've said, does that mean you're not planning to bring up any of those subpoenas again? >> the homeland security governor affairs committee has pretty broad jurisdictions. homeland security. a lot of serious issues. securing our borders, cyber security. i want to work with the secretary. i think he's a good appointment, serious man. we want to make sure he's successful at keeping america safe. that is the oversight. that is the investigation part of that. we'll have to maintain and carry out our responsibilities there as well. as a business guy, i don't like duplication of effort. the house is already there. but i'm not going to certainly absolve myself of the responsibility or the committee of its responsibility. it's a very serious part of our responsibility. >> is there any investigation that is imminent? can you give us specifics about what you mean? >> first, i want to use the committee. government affairs is involved in things like reg

. >>> we're joined by republican congressman darrell issa. thanks for joining us. are you prepared toot authorization of this mission in iraq? >> i am, george. i was just in both baghdad and erbil in addition to six other nations in the middle east between august and erbil just a few weeks ago. the fact is we're already there. we've had to be there. the government in baghdad is still quite delusional, if you will, about what the real impact is. they're still talking about long-term training before they're ready to fight so the fact is that if we're to protect the gains we made against islamic extremism my marines from camp pendleton and others are going to have to go back again. >> should they be in combat position? >> iraqis should fight for their country. there's no question at all. they've been trained and they should do it. the fact is the kurds are willing to do it. i have no doubt whatsoever that the kurds will fight and all they need is our air support and our technical know-how and they will do it. when it comes to the sunni/shia divide that the maliki gove

issa bringing the attorney general before congress under these hearings and at some point he is held in contempt. is that part of the reason for what is your sense? >> guest: i would argue it doesn't become partisans and simply because the attorney general is called in to a hearing. he doesn't answer a subpoena, how do you not consider contempt? >> host: but is it seem that way? >> guest: i argue in the book this is a deliberate campaign. not that it would be seen to some degree that way anyway but there is a delivery campaign in my opinion to spend these negative stories in a negative way and a reporter's controversial iced the story is controversial iced and the whistleblower don watson is controversial. the knowledge they had false information on the stuff was true. the president stepped in with the executive privilege to withhold documents. why if this was a story that was an important? i think the story had its merit but it was to some degree successfully controversial iced including inside cbs by managers who either sometimes have an ideological issue that they couldn't deal wi

republican darrell issa acknowledged the track record isn't good. >> in my 14 years on the judiciary and the work i do on immigration, time and time again people have missed opportunities. >> this isn't the only issue causing tension between the two sides as congress prepares to return to war for the first time in a month and a half. republicans say the confirmation of the president's new nominee for attorney general loretta lynch should wait until they control the senate in january but democrats may try to confirm her right away. >> thanks. >>> anger is boiling over about the disappearance and apparent murder of 43 college students. hundreds of protesters took to the streets in mexico city. they're demanding justice. manuel bojorquez is in the capital where the president's palace came under attack. manuel, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning. they traveled for a protest to the town of iguala. their bus was attack and taken over by police and nobody has seen them since. national demonstrators attacked the national palace this weekend angered by what could be one of the wor

that congressman darrell issa wants answers from him, calling him to testify directly in front of congress next month, what he is calling the quote, repeated transparency failures and outright deceptions surrounding obamacare. a doomsday warning from pope francis. if we don't rein in our greed and abuse about our planet nature will exact revenge. here is what he said at an event in rome. god always forgives but the earth does not. take care of the earth so it does not respond with destruction. melissa francis is still here. melissa: i am still here. stuart: was that a political statement from the pope? melissa: certainly sounded like it. i mean in full disclosure, i am catholic. i endured many years of catholic school so i will say that out of the gate. it sounds pretty political. it sound a little bit like genesis. i don't know -- stuart: what do you mean genesis. melissa: origins of the -- stuart: steward of the earth? melissa: we have to be steward of the earth. everything comes from the earth originally. it could mean anything. you're reading it like you should use solar panels or you

>> reporter: this is really california republican congressman darrell issa's swan song as head of the oversight committee which he has used to challenge the obama administration over the irs' targeting of conservative groups, the attacks on the u.s. consulate in benghazi and other things. he has announced that marilyn tavenner, who was the head of the center for medicare and medicaid services, will also testify. some of her e-mails about the launch of the, the botched launch of the healthcare.gov web site were lost. the oversight committee will be taken over by utah republican congressman jason chaffetz in the next congress. martha? martha: wendell, thank you very much. ♪ ♪ bill: new revelations about all those missing e-mails from former irs official lois lerner. a special treasury department watchdog has found those e-mails, 30,000 pages. the irs previously claiming they had been lost for good. jay sekulow, chief counsel of the american center for law and justice, he represents several of the groups, and katherine, president of true the targeting. good morning to both of you. yo

republican darrell issa acknowledged the track record isn't good. >> in my 14 years on the judiciary and the work i do on immigration, time and time again people have missed opportunities. >> this isn't the only issue causing tension between the two sides as congress prepares to return to war for the first time in a month and a half. republicans say the confirmation of the president's new nominee for attorney general loretta lynch should wait until they control the senate in january but democrats may try to confirm her right away. >> thanks. >>> anger is boiling over about the disappearance and apparent murder of 43 college students. hundreds of protesters took to the streets in mexico city. they're demanding justice. manuel bojorquez is in the capital where the president's palace came under attack. manuel, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning. they traveled for a protest to the town of their bus was attack and taken over by police and nobody has seen them since. national demonstrators attacked the national palace this weekend angered by what could be one of the worst mass

we will ask darrell issa about that next. >> i realize contempt is not a big deal to our attorney general, but it is important we have proper oversight. >> you don't want to go there. all right? >> i don't want to go there? >> no. bill: on election day, did you know 65,000 documents related to fast and furious returned over to congress? two of those guns were found at the scene of a shootout that killed the border agent. now the newly released documents to 10 e-mails the attorney general eric holder attacking his critics. the house oversight committee chair is with me now out of washington. good morning to you. i think he wanted you to see this. i will share this with you were sped they never gave a damn about this when all that was happening, thousands of mexicans being killed with guns from our country. all he wants to do in reality is a suck up the gun lobby, politics at its worst, maybe the media will get it. what about that? >> i traveled to mexico to meet with leaders and to meet with the atf agents mexico who were deceived and denied access to this activity. this was an undercover

he is really angry but he serious and he's not darrell issa. so if he moves to the chairmanship, he will use it. and anything they see will be interesting. it might be interesting, even in a bipartisan sense to look at. and so it happened after they grab this thing out longtime of the new deal. spending the next two years investigating, which they tend to like to do. as a setback than, they began the morning with a prayer and ended it with a pro. keep it up. this is the mentality and they are going to investigate. investigating with complete power over the subpoena in both houses and rightfully so. and it controls the subpoena power. and they investigate and they caught it all. he did it with iran contra against reagan, the power of the subpoena is everything and they know this, they know exactly what i'm saying, and that includes investigations and negative politics and how this will set up in 2016. i assume hillary clinton will run and she may run with jim webb or the guy from vermont, a big challenge. and she will be out there offering herse

california republican darrell issa acknowledged the house's track record on this issue isn't good. >> in my 14 years on judiciary and the work i've tried to do on immigration, time and time again, people have missed opportunities. >> reporter: this isn't the only issue causing tension between the two sides as congress prepares to return to washington for the first time in a month and a half. republicans say that the confirmation of the president's new nominee for attorney general, loretta lynch, should wait until they control the senate in january, but democrats may want to try to confirm her right away. gayle. >> all right, nancy, thanks. >>> anger is boiling over in mexico this morning about the disappearance and apparent murder of 43 college students. hundreds of protesters took to the streets in mexico city over the weekend. they are demanding justice. man well bojorquez is there. >> reporter: the 43 students were from a rural teaching college and had traveled for a protest to the town of iguala 120 miles south of mexico city. their bus was ambushed by local police. no one has hea

darrell issa will no longer be the chairman of that committee. all that you have seen in the house, that was more in the senate. and the house will do their investigations. it is a great way to make your point. even if they haven't stuck with the public, and you are making your message and remind people about what your causes of the time, because there were a lot of them, this is a use of people. you tie up their days. you make them come for staff meetings. this is one way they hurt the health care law, by bringing in hhs officials testifying and not actually building a website or doing other things they needed to do. it's a good way to get the administration. >> you are going to see a bit of that in the last few months. almost every day the pentagon and state department officials were coming up to brief in subcommittee armed services, foreign relations, on nsa surveillance. anything across the board. it does tie them up. the amount of time people all the way up to the people are having to put into that. you will see that increase. >> through a q

time, darrell issa and some others were asking that we call in people in the reagan administration who dealt with the savings-and-loan crisis, which involved closing a large number of banks and savings and loans. we had a huge problem. it was one of the underlying issues. he would that schedule bills. they could not close down the savings and loans that were insolvent because they could not pay off the depositors and there would be panic. that would spread threat the system. he wouldn't schedule bills to provide more money to the pay offe so they could the depositors if they close down. they had to keep these institutions open. texas and some other parts of the country. with andthat was dealt some institutions were closed and they set up a reconciliation trust thing to take up all of that. felt that was a model that was appropriate for the housing side of this whole crisis. it was not followed. onstill have a lot more pain the part of individual home mortgage buyers and the economy as a result of the way it was handled. they didn't look what had been done just a few years before. these

issa and the term limits committee. then what does the senate to? today follow that pattern? this is where republicans could exercise a good deal of authority in a potentially good way or bad way. they can do real oversight investigation. it's not perfect, it never is. having someone look over your shoulder is not a bad idea. but if it is purely political in nature and doesn't seem to have a purpose, then it is annoying and not productive it will be interesting to see where that goes. >> a sort of expect that under republican leadership they're going to shine a very right light on the administration and implementation of dodd-frank and the affordable care act, and really highlight issues. i think we can expect that democrats will be equally as activated only instead of focusing on the administration they're going to shine a light on industry. so expect to see senator ed markey, senator blumenthal, hyper engaged and sending letters and suggesting investigations into different business practices. an increasingly what we h

he is not darrell issa. [laughter] when he moves through that subcommittee and goals under the chairmanship, he will use it. next year we may see real investigations of irs, real investigations of benghazi, anything they see on their scope that might be interesting even in a bipartisan sense to look at, they will go after that. what may happen the next two years is what happens after the republicans grab the congress in 1946. they spent the next two years investigating which they tend to like to do. they would begin the morning with a prayer and ended with a probe. just keep it up. this is the republican mentality. if they win a lot of seats in the senate and pick another -- and when another 12 seats the house, they will not come in to legislate. they're going in there to investigate. that is the strength of the legislative body, complete power over the subpoena in both houses. nixon was worried about this and rightfully so. if you look at presence of got in trouble, is the other party that controls the subp

house oversite, government reform chair darrell issa tweeted that jonathan gruber, former obamacare adviser that called american voters quote, stupid, and they're going to be in the hot seat this december 9th hearing. what's the goal here? >> i think the goal is to get at the truth to find out who said what and who knew what. certainly i know gruber at least as i understand it was really hired to be an adviser on the economic side, talk about the economics of the affordable care act, not so much on the plirl side in terms of how to get it passed. certainly congressman issa and his team will get to the bottom of it. >> that's typically what congressional hearings are used for, truth seeking. >> i have no doubt there's a lot of truthfulness coming out in that hearing. listen, the reality is pretty obvious, what this is going to be. this is going to be a one hour, two hour pommelling to embarrass the administration. that's the goal. there's no quest for truth, no desire to make the policy better. >> it is a side show. >> repeal the legislation, at least vote on the repeal again. this is where

and the term limits committee -- darrell issa. then what does the senate to? today follow that pattern? this is where republicans could exercise a good deal of in a potentially good way or bad way. they can do real oversight investigation. perfect, it never is. having someone look over your shoulder is not a bad idea. is purely- but if it political in nature and doesn't seem to have a purpose, then it is annoying and not productive it will be interesting to see where that goes. >> a sort of expect that under republican leadership they're going to shine a very right light on the administration and implementation of dodd-frank and , andffordable care act really highlight issues. i think we can expect that democrats will be equally as activated only instead of focusing on the administration they're going to shine a light on industry. senator edo see markey, senator blumenthal, hyper engaged and sending letters and suggesting investigations into different business practices. an increasingly what we have senator using their convening p