nuances. >> the story isn't dr. gruber. i think dr. gruber is a patriot for finally telling the truth to the people. the story is that we have a free the press was designed by the founding fathers to hold those n power accountable for what they do. the doctor asserts as, he? a position to know. that obamacare legislation was deceitful was a fraud. it was put together the supreme court justice, john roberts ruled it constitutional based on a tax. okay? so, roberts saw the ruiz that the obama administration did. he should have punished the obama administration but he didn't. what i am trying to tell is you you contributed this as the "the washington post" media writer because this has been going on for decades and finally it's broken open. >> gruber apologized. well, he has apologized for committing cancer. >> he apologized for telling the truth now he can't get invited into cock fail parties in boston and cambridge he is mit. wander the streets now, howard. watch foreign films. he can't have white wine on braddle street anymore. >> yeah

dr. gruber appeared on the factor last year. he was honest. >> there is no doubt there is contribution of this law, bill, you can like it or not. and that's a debate for another day. >> well, there was also a large distribution of taxpayer money to dr. gruber. about 6 million bucks. in consulting fees. doctor to keep quiet when he heard this. >> no matter how we reform healthcare i intend to keep this promise. if you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. if you like your healthcare plan, you will be able to keep your healthcare plan. >> coupled with comprehensive reform this could result in our nation saving over $2 trillion over the next 10 years and that could save families $2,500 in the coming years. what the president did there are with the $2,500 stat was compare the average cost of health insurance now today to what it might have been years from now with no obamacare. what it might have been. that's called comparing the cold5qy4s truth is most working americans are paying more for health insurance under o

dr. gruber appeared on the factor last year. he was honest. >> there is no doubt there is contribution of this law, bill, you can like it or not. and that's a debate for another day. >> well, there was also a large distribution of taxpayer money to dr. gruber. about 6 million bucks. in consulting fees. doctor to keep quiet when he heard this. >> no matter how we reform healthcare i intend to keep this promise. if you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. if you like your healthcare plan, you will be able to keep your healthcare plan. >> coupled with comprehensive reform this could result in our nation saving over $2 trillion over the next 10 years and that could save families $2,500 in the coming years. $2,500 per family. what the president did there are with the $2,500 stat was compare the average cost of health insurance now today to what it might have been years from now with no obamacare. what it might have been. that's called comparing the cold5qy4s truth is most working americans are paying more for healt

gruber received. we will have that for you. >> when you add it up with all the different states, it's a huge number. >> we'll have it tomorrow, brit. you tune in. >> i will. never miss it. >> directly ahead, another view on obamacare and the damage it is causing. later, jesse watters visits a high school where teachers are being attacked physically by students. those reports after these messages. i'm over the hill. my body doesn't work the way it used to. past my prime? i'm a victim of a slowing metabolism? i don't think so. great grains protein blend. protein from natural ingredients like seeds and nuts. it helps support a healthy metabolism. great grains protein blend. hard it can be...how ...to breathe with copd? it can feel like this. copd includes chronic bronchitis and emphysema. spiriva is a once-daily inhaled... ...copd maintenance treatment... ...that helps open my airways for a full 24 hours. you know, spiriva helps me breathe easier. spiriva handihaler tiotropium bromide inhalation powder d

gruber received. we will have that for you. >> when you add it up with all the different states, it's a huge number. >> we'll have it tomorrow, brit. you tune in. >> i will. never miss it. >> directly ahead, another view on obamacare and the damage it is causing. later, jesse watters visits a high school where teachers are being attacked physically by students. those reports after these messages. nobody told us to expect it... intercourse that's painful due to menopausal changes it's not likely to go away... ...on its own. so let's do something about it. premarin vaginal cream can help it provides estrogens to help rebuild vaginal tissue and make intercourse more comfortable. premarin vaginal cream treats vaginal changes due to menopause and moderate-to-severe painful intercourse caused by these changes. don't use it if you've had unusual bleeding, breast or uterine cancer, blood clots, liver problems, stroke or heart attack, are allergic to any of its ingredients or think you're pregnant. side effect

gruber. they're meeting this morning to terminate dr. gr

. >> reporter: among the first to complain about dr. john than grooub gruber long before his comments about the stupidity of the american voter went viral. upset that the obama administration wasn't pursuing a single payer health care system. today conservatives see that failure to disclose as part of a broader problem gruber has with transparency. >> this is not saying the amount of money he made is wrong, but when he's testifying before congress, there ought to be full disclosure of this so that you know if he's got an unbiassed opinion or not. >> the money was pretty good, reviewing official government websites and published reports, fox news estimates gruber and or his firm received over $5 million of federal contracts over the past 15 years, the agencies range from the national institutes of health to the justice department which paid gruber to develop viable incentives to prevent tobacco companies from targeting teenagers. >> my job was to see if the numbers added up. >> reporter: they added up all right, as gruber also consulted

pretty much dr. gruber has revealed that we were right. there he is right there. he has revealed that famously on video that the only reason they were able to get the law through was because americans are stupid and we forget things really fast. >> if you're in power, you don't have to be transparent about everything in the plan. after all, if you told healthy people that they had to pay for sick people, that plan would never have passed. >> plus it's a tax. it's a tax. they knew it was a tax, but he said if people knew it was a tax, it would never pass. >> he's been loose lipped, up until our own david webb from fox news actually ambushed him right at m.i.t. and couldn't get a peep out of him. he had nothing to say. look at this. >> you had lots to say to the media. what about talking to us? we just want to talk to you. >> no thank you. >> do you think the american people would have actually bought into obamacare without all the deception for the cbo scoring? >> once again, i have no comment. >> if you're telling the truth, why are you apologizing as you did for

dr. john gruber, professor of economics at m.i.t. agrees. martha: he was literally on everybody's list around pushing obamacare. we have another quote i want to read to you in just a moment. jonah good morning to you. i just cannot figure out. people know this tape, these tapes are everywhere. why wouldn't you be honest eye and say we don't like what he's saying. he was a big part of putting this together? >> i don't know. it's such a brazen, transparent lie. it would be like james madison saying i have nothing to do with the american founding. all those things i wrote in the federalist papers, those weren't by me. to say jonathon gruber wasn't involved, wasn't spap guru. it's just a complete and total lie. and it is amazing how much these guys, the entire leadership of the democratic party is count on most of the mainstream media, the "new york times," cbs to simply shrug and enable them top continue lying like that. >> it will get a little more difficult. on msnbc this morning. steven radder in who worked in the obama administration said w

one of the -- i went to dr. gruber's web site. he broke down what he was expecting. in it 2015 and in 2016 when the plans are supposed to be fully implemented, the costs were supposed to be dramatically less. none of this has happened so far. we're three, four years into this and it's still not starting to bend the cost curve down. every single year, health care premiums are going up for families, individuals, for employers, across the board. so the problem is, they were trying to figure out a way to fool the public into voting for it because it was going to work. they fooled the public, but it's not working. >> it's failing the public. >> as i mentioned, it was supposed to bring costs down. they were going to bend the cost curve down. whatever that meant. just a fabrication. there are eight states that are facing double digit increases in the cost of your premiums coming up next year. louisiana, kansas, iowa, pennsylvania, virginia, north carolina, south carolina, and tennessee. i think there is some states where things will go down. but this those states, we know t

you can talk to dr. gruber about what he said, but i don't have a comment about his comments. >> i don't know who he is. he didn't help write our bill so let's put him aside. lou: they would like to put him aside. those democratic denials despite the fact they paid gruber $6 million over since about 2000 and unfortunately for mr. obama because of those pesky white house records that show gruber was in the white house to talk about obamacare at least 19 times and at least one of those times, he met with president obama. and how do we know? because gruber himself talked about it in this pbs front line interview. >> he's worried about cost control. so we had a meeting in the oval office with several experts, including myself on what can we do to get credible savings on cost control that the congressional budget office would recognize? >> that's not a connection that president obama can credibly dispute that doesn't mean he won't dispute it as we've found out over the years. another irritating problem for th

all of a sudden dr. gruber we used to be a hero in washington all the sudden is a goat. why? >> in his own words in the videos we have seen now, he turns out to be kind of a jerk as smart as he might be. looking back on his relationship with the white house, i think your viewers should know $400,000 is a lot of money in this town. congressional staffers are not making that, white house staffers are not making it. president obama chose precise words when he said just because some advisor who is never on our staff, he was more important than staff, $400,000, in president of meetings and named in president to campaign two years ago as a mean to defend obamacare against the public attacks saying it was the same as romneycare is brought into replicate romneycare. they should have been honest about this from the start criticizes comments and move on pretending he was not a part of the team is ridiculous. >> let's take a look at what the president had to say in answer to the question, and then i want you to parse these words. >> i just heard about this, the fact that some advisor wh

you can talk to dr. gruber about what he said but i don't have a comment about his comments. i don't know who he is. let's put him aside. >> they would like to put him aside. those democratic denials, despite the fact that they paid gruber nearly $6 million over, well, since about 2000 and unfortunately for mr. obama, because of those pesky white house records that show that gruber was actually in the white house to talk about obamacare at least 19 times and at least one of those times, he met with president obama. how do we know? because gruber himself talked about it in this pbs "frontline" interview. >> he is worried about cost control and so we had a meeting in the oval office with several experts, including myself, on what can we do to get credible savings on cost control that the congressional budget office would recognize and score as savings in this law. >> that's not a connection that president obama can credibly dispute. that doesn't mean he won't dispute it, as we have found out over the years. and another irritating problem for the democrats and the president who

i'm no doctor but this looks like a case of political amnesia. >> you can talk to dr. gruber about what he said, but i don't have a comment about his comments. >> i don't know who he is. >> the fact that some adviser who never worked on our staff expressed an opinion that i completely disagree with in terms of the voters is no reflection on the actual process that was run. >> ah, mr. president, jonathan gruber, he wasn't just some adviser, he's been at the white house at least 19 times in recent years meeting with your top aides and even sat down face-to-face with you in the oval office back in 2009 for over four hours. and since then he's been paid by the taxpayers a half a million dollars for his services. so i think we deserve to know what was discussed at those meetings. now, did you talk about the stupidity of the american voters? did you plot, plan on how to deceive the public into supporting your bill? maybe he's the one who helped you come up with these infamous broken promises. >> if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. if you like your health care

i'm no doctor but this looks like a case of political amnesia. >> you can talk to dr. gruber about what he said, but i don't have a comment about his comments. >> i don't know who he is. >> the fact that some adviser who never worked on our staff expressed an opinion that i completely disagree with in terms of the voters is no reflection on the actual process that was run. >> ah, mr. president, jonathan gruber, he wasn't just some adviser, he's been at the white house at least 19 times in recent years meeting with your top aides and even sat down face-to-face with you in the oval office back in 2009 for over four hours. and since then he's been paid by the taxpayers a half a million dollars for his services. so i think we deserve to know what was discussed at those meetings. now, did you talk about the stupidity of the american voters? public into plan on how to supporting your bill? maybe he's the one who helped you come up with these infamous broken promises. >> if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. if you like your health care plan, you can keep your he

that were for expressed by dr. gruber don't actually reflect what actually happened in the process of passing and implementing this law. >> reporter: gruber, by the way, is a huge fan of the affordable care act. in an article in the new england journal of medicine, he calls it the most significant piece of social policy legislation in 50 years, but he said it was bound to raise some people's health care costs. martha: so who else do we expect at this hearing, wendell? >> reporter: this is really california republican congressman darrell issa's swan song as head of the oversight committee which he has used to challenge the obama administration over the irs' targeting of conservative groups, the attacks on the u.s. consulate in benghazi and other things. he has announced that marilyn tavenner, who was the head of the center for medicare and medicaid services, will also testify. some of her e-mails about the launch of the, the botched launch of the healthcare.gov web site were lost. the oversight committee will be tak

. >> talking points applauds dr. gruber for telling the truth apart from the stupid stuff. but i also believe he was a active participant in a big con. martha: so does all of this destroy any credibility that the white house has on the health care law? we'll talk to karl rove about that coming up earnings also six feet of snow in mid-november. it all came down in just a couple of hours. 100 miles of interstate shut down. people trapped in their cars. city of buffalo gets a beat-down by a massive blizzard and it ain't over. we're live with details on the ground in up state new york. martha: president obama could change the social landscape of america with a swipe of his pen but will unilateral action on immigration be legal? >> i'm the president of the united states. i'm not emperor of the united states. my job is to execute laws that are passed. martha: we are back. so this morning the acting director of the secret service will testify in front of house judiciary committee. the hearing comes after a string of awful security breaches, one of which you see on the screen now,

gruber. they're meeting this morning to terminate dr. gruber's contract. we'll give you the latest on that. >> baby, it sure is cold outside. ♪ i really ♪ can't say ♪ baby ♪ it's cold outside >> simon has concluded that is the best video of the day all day. pop stars giving a cleaned up version of the christmas classic for kids. thanks to earth for making it cold and so very appropriate. mornings are better with friends. >> hey, this is george lopez and i'm watching "fox & friends." it's the best show on tv and the only reason to have cable. >> george lopez is in syndication on cable. how magnanimous. >> exactly. >> tells you you should be watching tv because it is so bitterly cold across so much of the country. why go outside. on 6th avenue right now there is one guy. one guy. >> someone hug him. he must be freezing. >> he is freezing. >> if you're anywhere around him, give him an embrace. >> we're going to keep it cozy here on the curvy couch. we're going to turn to a fox news alert for you. the death toll rising in that savage synagogue attack i

gruber calling us stupid. he just proved that a phd can be stupid. i think the results of the election we had proved that the american people are not stupid. want gruber and these other idiots thinking that we are. i hope the aca is dismantled. republicans to planld some sort of a self that works for all americans, whether you are poor, middle class, wealthy, whatever. we do need a safety net. that is what medicare and medicaid is for. in a country like america, we should have that. the middle class is being severely hurt. they are paying a lot of money. old saying, you can keep your plan, you can keep your doctor. that is not happening for the middle class. i just hope that the new congress, the republicans can fix the aca in a way that is fair for everybody. host: all right. guest: i do think it is important to remember that we thataying for these people people don't think we should be paying for when they go to the hospital anyway. the emergency room has to treat people or stabilize them. such a large portion of the american public are not insured

gruber calling us stupid. he just proved that a phd can be stupid. i think the results of the election we had proved that the american people are not stupid. want gruber and these other idiots thinking that we are. i hope the aca is dismantled. republicans to planld some sort of a self that works for all americans, whether you are poor, middle class, wealthy, whatever. we do need a safety net. that is what medicare and medicaid is for. in a country like america, we should have that. the middle class is being severely hurt. they are paying a lot of money. old saying, you can keep your plan, you can keep your doctor. that is not happening for the middle class. i just hope that the new congress, the republicans can fix the aca in a way that is fair for everybody. host: all right. guest: i do think it is important to remember that we thataying for these people people don't think we should be paying for when they go to the hospital anyway. the emergency room has to treat people or stabilize them. such a large portion of the american public are not insured

dr. gruber did. the big question, can the taxpayers get any of that money back from gruber and company? stay tuned. >>> whatever you do, don't call them ladies. female athletes being forced to drop lady from their title because lady is sexist. really? we're going to ask a former athlete from that school coming up next. ♪ ♪ looking for one of these? yoplait. smooth, creamy, and craved by the whole family. from san francisco to silicon valley, boston private bank works with all kinds of people who are innovating, building, contributing -- individuals, business owners, private partnerships, non-profits, families planning their financial futures. people like you. if you want the individual attention and expertise your financial needs deserve, this is your time. this is your private bank. >>> welcome back. quick headlines for you from the gun file. first, facebook banned ads for guns, now it's banning gun safety items. hyatt gun, the nation's largest firearm dealer said it was blocked from advertising

dr. gruber calls the exerts misinformed and uses the race card. >> i don't think the voters in florida don't care about the long-term insured. i think they are misinformed. if we could politically help explain the cost to society of cutting provider rates, cutting back medicaid i think we would get the majority of people to support strengthening that program. i think because of racial reasons and other things we haven't managed to get through with that message. >> because of racial reasons, what does that mean? here is the a representative from the project 21 leadership message. you heard him. what do you think he's talking about where he said because of racial reasons? >> i think it's a sign of desperation and it's a typical play book for anybody who's been associated with this affordable care act. now that reality has set in it is apparent what they said is not going to come true. it is going to cost us as patients and doctors an enormous amount of money. people are turning against it.

dr. barry black, will lead the senate in prayer. the chaplain: let us pray. shepherd of love, our lives are open books to you, for you see our thoughts before they are formed and know our words before we utter a single sentence. your powers astound us. today, guide our lawmakers on the path that leads to faith, inspiring them to cultivate a quiet spirit of confidence in your providential love. lord, teach them to wait with hope and to endure to the end, believing that in everything you're working for the good of those who love you and are called according to your purposes. god of grace and glory, we revel in your goodness, rejoicing because of your generous mercies. we pray in your holy name. amen. the president pro tempore: please join me in reciting the pledge of allegiance to the flag. i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. mr. reid: mr. president? the

brisbane over the weekend, was pretty clear about the fact that the sentiments that were expressed by dr. gruber are not sentiments that the president agrees with and frankly don't actually reflect what actually happened in the process of passing and implementing this law. the fact of the matter, is i do think that -- is, i do think that people are understandably pretty tired of relitigating all of the political fights from 2009 and 2010 as it relates to the affordable care act. and there are some republicans however who do seek to sort of fan the flames of those old political arguments because they think it is political advantageous for them to do so. my suspicion is that they do so because it's easier to talk about six and eight-year-old videos than it is to talk about smoothly the opening of the second open enrollment period has gone so far or to talk about the millions of people that have gotten health care as a result of the affordable care act. or to talk about how the growth in health care costs is the lowest in recorded history, again in the aftermath of the passing of the afford

dr. wendell, what are republicans now saying about all this? >> well, they say that gruber and the president were much closer than mr. obama wants to admit. they point to the president's 2006 comments when he was a senator calling gruber one of the brightest minds and saying he borrowed from him liberally. republicans are using gruber to challenge mary landrieu's re-election bid. house speaker john boehner used him to challenge president obama not to veto a keystone xl peopleline bill, and mccarthy suggested gruber shows the administration is misleading voters. >> a lot of you have seen the tape of jonathan gruber, one of the architects of obama care, where he talks about the lack of transparency gives you the opportunity to fool the american public. well, the one thing in congress always immediate is greater transparency. >> karl rove says the white house is trying to make this whole thing about jonathan gruber, but republicans are determined to make it about mr. obama. >> very interesting. wendell, thank you for the wrap-up from the white hou

here to weigh in, dr. scott gottlieb, scholar at american enterprise institute, chris holt director of health care policy at american action forum and steve moore, chief economist at the heritage foundation. welcome all. steve, i will start with you. get your reaction to more

here to weigh in, dr. scott gottlieb, scholar at american enterprise institute, chris holt director of health care policy at american action forum and steve moore, chief economist at the heritage foundation. welcome all. steve, i will start with you. get your reaction to moref

here to weigh in, dr. scott gottlieb, scholar at american enterprise institute, chris holt director of health care policy at american action forum and steve moore, chief economist at the heritage foundation. welcome all. steve, i will start with you. get your reaction to more of this sound from gruber. this is astonishing what is rolling out here. he is talking about how the president led the effort to manipulate employer sponsored insurance networks to get what he needed to make obamacare work. listen to this. >> people say no, you can't tax my benefits. feels like, so, what, we did a lot in that room, think about how could, talk about how could we make this work? obama is like well, you know, really, realistic, guys i just can't do this. this will not happen politically. the bill will not pass. how do we manage to get there through phases and other things that became genesis of cadillac tax in the health care bill. gerri: makes me feel so good had this is how policy is made in washington. steve, your rea

here to weigh in, dr. scott gottlieb, scholar at american enterprise institute, chris holt director of health care policy at american action forum and steve moore, chief economist at the heritage foundation. welcome all. steve, i will start with you. get your reaction to m