the ironing is that margaret sanger was hugely popular in japan. birth control devices were made named for her because she was the first to go there and spread the word. she was a hero. >> host: you mentioned there was an abortion medication that was marketed under her name. it was in japan i think in the 30s. what was that? >> guest: i don't know how it worked or what it did but i decide to advertise. it goes to show her power and influence over there. people thought any brand-name sanger or sango which is how they often sell the product would be identified as something that gave women control over reproduction. >> host: it's interesting because even though this is the last decade of her active life and sanger had lost control of most of the organizations that she helped found and she always hated the name planned parenthood. she thought that was mealymouthed. she preferred birth control which she had invented. but she organized this huge conference in japan, an international conference on reproductive developments. she was in her late 70's than a

they put wonder woman and sanger in the same costume. when stein and put wonder woman on the cover of ms. "ms." magazine and they have to get elizabeth marston who was living decades later. elizabeth marston is invited to come to the office. she is so thrilled that this -- these exciting young women want to celebrate wonder woman. this is a fund-raiser the first year. there's a stand-alone volume of ms. 1940s comics. influences whole generation. halloway marston was incredibly excited. she never tells anybody a word about it. it's a complete secret and everything has been kept in secrecy. when a ph.d. student at berkeley in 1974 is writing a dissertation about the history of wonder woman she tracked down halloway marston and she's been trying to figure out where things came from. what about the bracelets and halloway marston writes back and says a student of dr. marston. >> to give that ph.d. students credit one of my favorite parts all as bird wrote these articles about william moulton marston and the way she writes them she talks about

sanger's project was moving forward in the 1950's. the development of the pill and professionals are being trained at planned parenthood, which was an organization that was started out of the early work of margaret sanger. that is an organization being pushed forward to challenge convention. there is another way to see the slow, but persistent evolution of change in the early 1950's in regard to traditional values, and that is in the polls but the gallup poll organization and others took of the time about who the most admired women were in america. usually the most admired man was the president, but the most admired women were women who had careers or women who were working. even though this is an age that had been celebrated as the age of the suburbs, the age of the baby boom, the age of more and more people getting married, etc., when women were asked who they admired most, they admired women who had careers outside the household. almost every year of the 1950's, the most admired woman in america, usually the top of the poll, was el

sanger's project was moving forward in the 1950's. medical professionals are being trained in ways, especially from planned parenthood, which was an organization that was started out of the early work of margaret sanger. birth control is one of those issues that is being pushed forward to challenge convention. there is another way to see the persistent,, but evolution of change, or change, within the early 1950's in regard to traditional values, and that is in the polls but the -- that the gallup poll organization and others took of the time about who the most admired women were in america. usually the most admired man was the president, but the most admired women were women who had careers or women who were working. even though this is an age that has been celebrated as the age of the suburbs, the age of the baby boom, the age of more and more people getting married, etc., when women were asked who they admired most, they admired women who had careers outside the household. almost every year of the 1950's, the most admired woman in a

they are nurses in the 1914, margaret sanger found the woman rebels. sort of an antecedent of wonder woman. they opened the first birth control clinic. they are arrested for obscenity. planned parenthood was founded in 196 by ethyl burns and margaret sanger. >> stephen: so the guy who created wonder woman has a wife and a girl on the side who he knows is on birth control. >> yes. [laughter] >> stephen: so the playground is open, all right. >> he says to his wife, you know, i would like her to live with us and i really love her and you could, either she could live with us, she could take care of the children and you could go to work and solve your problems. >> stephen: as a woman how would you -- would you feel about that. would you be into that. would you be down for that? >> no. there's no other answer. >> stephen: no. >> there's no other answer. >> stephen: i'm more of a feminist than you are. [crowd cheering] >> exactly. >> stephen: thank you very much. [crowd cheering] >> stephen: jill lepore, the over 20 years 31 million students started college,

they are nurses in the 1914, margaret sanger found the woman rebels. sort of an antecedent of wonder woman. they opened the first birth control clinic. they are arrested for obscenity. planned parenthood was founded in 196 by ethyl burns and margaret sanger. >> stephen: so the guy who created wonder woman has a wife and a girl on the side who he knows is on birth control. >> yes. [laughter] >> stephen: so the playground is open, all right. >> he says to his wife, you know, i would like her to live with us and i really love her and you could, either she could live with us, she could take care of the children and you could go to work and solve your problems. >> stephen: as a woman how would you -- would you feel about that. would you be into that. would you be down for that? >> no. there's no other answer. >> stephen: no. >> there's no other answer. >> stephen: i'm more of a feminist than you are. [crowd cheering] >> exactly. >> stephen: thank you very much. [crowd cheering] [crowd cheering] >> stephen: jill lepore, the this is a pip. it's part of a hers

sanger is looking for a way to affect marriage, hefner is challenging marriage. jorgenson is more than challenging marriage. she is challenging the very idea of sexual, gender roles itself. said, christine was born jorgensen, agi, served in world war ii. always claimed that his desire to be a woman was very overwhelming, powerful and strong. had surgery in denmark. apparently he was the most written about person in the u.s. reminds of53, which that opinion poll on kinsey's books where half of the population were sympathetic to opening up about sexual practices. just look at the interest here in jorgensen's sex change operation. that is substantial. course, it certainly is a .hallenge to prescribed roles some -- just to give ple of whatr or a sam people were seeing or reading -- beauty.comes blonde you can see why this got a lot of attention. it was grabbing attention from a lot of other things grabbing attention, kinsey and hefner, and you can see this percolating in culture and society which is not simply falling in lockstep behind the anti-communist crusade. an

joined now by my colleague, william brangham, who reported earlier this year from iran, and by david sanger of the new york times. he's in vienna covering the talks and joins us now via skype. >> thanks hari. david thanks for joining us. the president this morning said there are still some significant gaps in the negotiations. what can we likely expect in the next day as the negotiations wrap up? >> well i think you can expect that these negotiations are not going to wrap up. that what's going to happen here is that you'll get an extension that may well be wrapped in some kind of description of the progress they've made so far. you know william, they have very extensive drafts and annexes of an agreement but they don't have political decisions from the supreme leader in iran or from president obama on some majors issues of dispute including how many centrifuges iran could be left with, the fuel stock piles, which one would be sent to russia and the questions of sanctions. and all of these require decisions that nobody's been willing to make even though this negotiation has been going on for

>> we were actually, and our movement that we have called the the sangers room is about improve. one of the biggest thing ths th we knew that we wanted to display was peace. so that is all we were singing is that we want peace, we want pea peace, we want change today. >> and mitch, through the song, and the improve or not, what is the song that you can think about for a second, the one song that illustrates your feelings about the state of america right no now. >> it is the song "stand" by j.p. keith, because it is powerful of all of the things that go wrong this the world, it is important the stand. with we have to stand for something. and some of the lyrics, stand for holiness, stand for righteousness, and tokt, we should all stand, and that is really, really powerful, and in a crucial time like this, and if you want the voice to be heard, sta stand, and stand together. >> mitch moffett, and deanna dixon, i hope you continue to sing. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> and he is the controversial witness who was with mike brown in the controversial shooting, and what he says about t

to get us up to speed on the latest, i'm joined by david sanger of the "new york times," who is covering the talks in vienna. this morning, when i read the news, seemed both parties were sort of leading the negotiating -- leaving the negotiating table and now you're telling us they met twiessments what happened? >> well, it's been a day of high drama. it's not been clear that it's been a day of much progress. much of this right now may have been last 72 hours brinksmanship. the word this morning was that, after one more meeting, the iranian negotiate was going to fly back to tehran, presumably, hhari, to get instructioned abot last-minute concessions. we heard the secretary of state was not going to wait for his iranian counterpart to return. by the end of the evening, they were both staying. we can't tell if it was because of progress or if there was no reason to go back and propose anything to iran's supreme leader. >> sreenivasan: let's talk about what they're talking about. the deadline less than 72 hours away. how big is the gap in what both sides want? >> the gap in what they want

for more, we want to bring in "the new york times" chief washington correspondent david sanger. nice to see you in person. >> good to be with you. >> first on the release of these american prisoners from north korea, if we can very quickly, you sort of noted the difference in approach the president's taking, writing a long letter to the ayatollah al khomeini. just last week we learned about that. now he sent james clapper. he's not sending a diplomat to north korea. >> he sure wasn't. since the alternative might have been dennis rodman. >> rodman's claiming some credit here, right? >> of course, of course. look, james clapper, who's the director of national intelligence, did a great tactical move here. he went in. he presented this letter. apparently there was no quid pro quo. he emerged with these two americans. and they're back home. and as the president said, that's a good news story. but strategically, there was nothing in this to show any kind of opening to north korea. and it's interesting that kim jong- jong-un, the north korean leader, unpredictable, missing for the past

let me turn to david sanger, who will provide more details of the negotiation. >> thank you. i think michael would have been extremely pleased to see this room completely jammed in a session that is much more about him than about anything we can say. i was lucky enough to be working on finishing up the inheritance here when michael first joined as a fellow. at the end of the day, he would come by, my office or his office, and his endless curiosity for how all this would play out -- his love of the wonderfully ambiguous nature of dealing with the iranians, the questions of whether or not the specifics of the deal led to a much greater political reconciliation, a subject that my colleague will take up in a moment, really fascinated him. but he was also wonderfully competitive, in that way that someone who has been a reporter all his life can be. when i reported in the book i wrote after i had done the inheritance that the united states had been involved in a lengthy cyber sabotage effort against the iranian nuclear program, one that was really the first use of a cyber weapon by

and people should study their history more too, find out about margaret sanger, the first one who really wanted abortion in the actual scale. you should look that up. caller: guest: i agree. the untold story is these perspective that susan b. anthony, victoria woodhall, alice paul, all of them had about what abortion was in the life of a a woman. it was a reality, however. and they saw it as a tool of exploitation of men. something that would allow men to have -- perform a misdeed and be able to cover up the effects of that and it was a tool of exploitation then. she said if women are treated to property it's degrading to women when we dispose of our children as we see fit so no question about what they thought. it wasn't just sort of a genuflect to the times that they were in. they knew it was something that was so counter to a woman's consciousness that she would never do it unless she was really in a point of being coerced by another person. and last thing i'll say is susan b. anthony is why we're named susan b. anthony is she commented on it that the deed would burden a woman's consc

with that, let me turn to david sanger. who will provide more detailed assessment of the negotiations themselves. >> i think michael would be pleased to see this room completely jammed in a session that while we're here to speak to you is really much more about him than anything wean

let me turn to david sanger, who will provide more details of the negotiation. >> thank you. i think michael would have been extremely pleased to see this room completely jammed in a session that is much more about him than about anything we can say. i was lucky enough to be working on finishing up the inheritance here when michael first joined as a fellow. at the end of the day, he would come by, my office or his office, and his endless curiosity for how all this would play out -- his love of the wonderfully ambiguous nature of dealing with the iranians, the questions of whether or not the specifics of the deal led to a much greater olitical reconciliation, a subject that my colleague will take up in a moment, really fascinated him. but he was also wonderfully competitive, in that way that someone who has been a reporter all his life can be. when i reported in the book i wrote after i had done the inheritance that the united states had been involved in a lengthy cyber sabotage effort against the iranian nuclear program, one that was really the first use of a cyber weapon by

david sanger from the "new york times." we just heard from ann curry that talks are likely to resume. until they resume, what is being done to hold iran accountable? they come through the main sitesdaly in some cases. this is the sdrim agreement and it does not in the end drinking or shorten the amount of time to produce one full war for nuclear fuel. it doesn't work over the long-term, but for six or seven months, you would have to say that the united states and the europeans were in better shape than a year ago. >> let's talk about this. you quoted prime minister netanyahu in a piece he wrote saying no deal is better than a bad deal. the right deal is needed to dismantle iran's capacity to make atomic bombs. this result is better, a lot better. what is it that israel would hope for right now? what they will settle for and what they hope for. they are two different things. iran won't give up the capacity. can they have a narrative and a victory and the right to enrich and as soon as an agreement is done with, they could en

let me turn to david sanger, who will provide more details of the negotiation. >> thank you. i think michael would have been extremely pleased to see this room completely jammed in a aboutn that is much more him than about anything we can say. i was lucky enough to be working on finishing up the inheritance here when michael first joined as a fellow. at the end of the day, he would come by, my office or his office, and his endless thissity for how all would play out -- his love of the wonderfully ambiguous nature of dealing with the iranians, the questions of whether or not the specifics of the deal led to a much greater political reconciliation, a subject that my colleague will take up in a moment, really fascinated him. but he was also wonderfully competitive, in that way that somebody who is going to -- someone who has been a reporter all his life can be. when i reported in the book i wrote after i had done the inheritance that the united in as had been involved lengthy cyber sabotage effort against the iranian nuclear one that was really the first use of a cyber weapon by

with that, let me turn to david sanger. who will provide more detailed assessment of the negotiations themselves. >> i think michael would be pleased to see this room completely jammed in a session that while we're here to speak to you is really much more about him than anything we can say. finishing up the inheritance here when michael first joined as a fellow and you know, at the end of the day, he would come by either my office or his office and his endless curiosity for for how this would play out, his love of the wonderfully ambiguous nature of dealing with the iranian. the questions of whether or not the specifics of the deal led to a much greater political kind of reconciliation, a subject that my great colleague, mark, will take up in a moment. he was also wonderfully into the weeds. and wonderfully competitive in that way that somebody's who's been a reporter all his life can be. when i r reported in the book after i wrote after i had done the inter hans than the united states had been involved in a lengthy cyber s

the republican nominee was a state house member and steve sanger, he was not dashing he kept saying he is too extreme. some of the african-american officials in st. louis county endorsed him out of anger for the party not supporting charlie but also out of fashion he is very close to the prosecutor. and general frustration but ferguson and all the problems that were revealed. but he got his key endorsement from the african-american congressman from st. louis and held on by less than a percentage point the st. louis county, heavily public, 1 million plus counties always votes democratic. to run quickly through a couple of the ballot measures. we had paid sick leave passed in new jersey and in oakland. it was also a mixed bag on transportation with statesmen for infrastructure. bonds voted down in kansas city the seattle voted for more transit. clay county voting for a sales tax increase. there were bands on gmos pass at the local apple. humboldt county, california and -- voted down g. most. there were some places in california and in denton texas voted to ban fracking. is already a laws

randolph talks about being a supporter for the women's's right to vote and is very engaged with margaret sanger and birth-control movement. one of the things that comes out of this examination that i'm involved with now is thinking about why randolph did not have children. what is there? i don't know. you might be surprised, because it is not -- one of the things that i speculate on is that either there is some sort of health issue involved, but you would expect in such extensive correspondence between husband and wife that there would be lamenting of that, but there isn't. it leads me to believe that there is is a conscious choice made by two people who have very active and connected, but separate, public lives. randolph marries a woman who is educated, older, an entrepreneur, politically active, and perhaps more, or better socially connected in harlem that he was. she is older, established, a professional in her own right, an entrepreneur. she might be making some very modern choices about childbearing and he finds himself in a very different position than many of his peers in the 1920's with

michael brown was killed on august 9 on a saturday and we had the primaries the tuesday before steve sanger won for the executive beating the long-time african-american incumbent. and the county prosecutor had an opponent primary and of course the conscious social figure for throwing the case to the jury rather than deciding whether to indict on his own with the authority to do so soon it became a very contested race. the republican nominee was a state house member and stanger keeping with the theme was extreme. some of the officials in saint louis county and worst stanger out of anger for the party but also keeps close with the prosecutor and in general frustration about ferguson and all the problems but he got the key inducement from the congresswoman in saint louis and held on by less than a percentage point. so these heavily populated counties and just to run quickly in the ballot measures. seattle voted for more transit and the atlantic area for the first time with clay county voting for a sales tax increase on that. there were bands passed at the local level and humboldt county califo

very early on, being a supporter of women's right to vote and is in fact very engaged with margaret sanger and the birth control movement which is problematic in some ways. but one of the things that comes out of this examination that i'm involved with now is a -- thinking about why randolph did not have children, right? what's there? >> i'm sorry. i will have a different answer than you. >> i don't know. you might be surprised. it's not -- there are -- one of the things i speculate on is that either there's some sort of health issue involved but you would expect in such extensive correspondence between husband and wife that there would be some lamenting of that but there isn't. so it leads me to believe that this is sort of a conscious choice made by two people who have very, very active and connected but separate public lives. i mean randolph marries a woman who is educated, older, entrepreneur, politically active and perhaps more or better socially connected in harlem than he was. so, you know, she's older, established, a professional in her own right and entrepreneur. she might be maki

and people should study their history more too, find out about margaret sanger, the first one who really wanted abortion in the actual scale. you should look that up. caller: guest: i agree. the untold story is these perspective that susan b. anthony, victoria woodhall, alice paul, all of them had about what abortion was in the life of a a woman. it was a reality, however. and they saw it as a tool of exploitation of men. something that would allow men to have -- perform a misdeed and be able to cover up the effects of that and it was a tool of exploitation then. she said if women are treated to property it's degrading to women when we dispose of our children as we see fit so no question about what they thought. it wasn't just sort of a genuflect to the times that they were in. they knew it was something that was so counter to a woman's consciousness that she would never do it unless she was really in a point of being coerced by another person. and last thing i'll say is susan b. anthony is why we're named susan b. anthony is she commented on it that the deed would burden a woman's consc