seeing none we'll start our rebuttal ms. murdock first. >> thank you very much in rebuttal i'm saying that the planning commission and the project sponsors have said i've brought no new information, however, if the project sponsors had a licenses and given me an opportunity to meet with us individually like he did with all the other neighbors he would have seen we came up with modifications that are minor and additionally, we gone ahead and did a daylight studies in our brief i brought full prints in case that helps i'm happy to submit those into evidence unlike their shadow studies we're losing light i don't believe the shadow studies are accurate, and, secondly, i want to board to look at the buildings to the west when you look at that and actually, i have something to show open the projector when you look at yes those are their own designs as you can see their 3 story building height right here is turn around the back half the knowledge this is my apartment completely no exposure to the north and west and now to the east

murdock is a tenant of the adjacent building that has windows facing at about exterior courtyard she express those concerns indeed the discretionary review applicant not just happened to attend they visited the apartment building twice and the courtyard away was able to stand on its own as a source of light for purposes of comparison 3 hundred square feet is the size of the san francisco in your buildings the appellant has not raised issues of appeal she explored all those are the planning commission with the discretionary review hearing was held she participated in the planning process including the filing with the dr she presented to the planning commission i'm going to turn it over to robert evans and vivian lee. >> i'm vivian lee the project manager my husband and my sons have been living here with the intention of accommodating the need of our growing family we've been completely transparency regarding our plan and have worked closely with the neighbors during before and after 311 the appellant along with the landowner were unsuccessful in the permit eased since then the appella