>> i don't know if people are running from sony. sony has pictures in production. they have the new james bond film which is moving ahead. but i think right now with this bloodletting at sony-w all these e-mails, with all this personal information, up to 47,000 past and present employees have seen their social security and other information put online. i think now with sony and specifically "the interview" which caused a lot of problems and obviously has been pulled as you've been talking about all this show, there's a toxicity there and as george cloon i why said to our mike fleming in an exclusive interview, they didn't want to be caught in the crosshai crosshairs. >> is it a ceo that the movie theaters won't show it -- what is sony to do if -- everybody's piling on sony saying they're a bunch of cowards running from the cyber terrorists. but on the other hand if there's no one that can take their movie is there a place they can put their movies? >> i think they're caught here ben between one of the true rock and hard places of the digital world. people are talki

here's the problem for sony. they say sony was hacked before, yet, still failed to protect its networks. the former employees are asking the court to make the lawsuit a class action so other employees could join in. that could get really expensive for season nah. sony shares are down 9% since the attack kurd at the end of november. remember, the stock market has been down in recent days, so this may not be tied to the hack specifically. the stock is still up 14% this year. and the market may not get too down on sony because the hack only affected sony picture which is accounts for 10% of the company's sales. but there are long-term questions about a-listers not wanting to work for sony after embarrassing e-mails were released. people do say, based on reports i've read, that this lawsuit could actually result in sony paying out significant claims. when customers have tried to sue companies because their personal information have been released publicly, they have not been successful. but there's a greater onus if i

did sony cave? sony says they didn't. it's a very ill-judged decision to make a movie with kim jong-un in it in the first place, named and identified as a sitting head of a foreign state. no other studio would have done it. sony did it. now they're paying a horrible price. and the whole country is being pulled into this horrible display of suppression of freedom of expression and an international incident. >> if somebody would have said at the beginning of the year, the president would have a news conference at the end of the year and most of it would be dominated by sony pictures and north korea, we would have said, what? kim, thanks very much for joining us. kim masters, christian whitton and tom. thanks very much. in this accident... because there was no accident. volvo's most advanced accident avoidance systems ever. the future of safety, from the company that has always brought you the future of safety. give the gift of volvo this season and we'll give you your first month's payment on us. will thank you. , sir? orde

cannot break. >> reporter: eight former sony employees filed suit against sony this week charging they failed to protect its personal data. one suit seeks class action status, anthony, for 50,000 current and former sony workers whose information was stolen by these hackers. >> mason: john blackstone, thank you, john. at his news conference today, the president also defended his decision to restore diplomatic relations with cube asaying it gives the u.s. better opportunity to bring about change there. so what does the future hold? scott pelley spent time today with some young cubians in havana. >> in havana today, cubans are still talking about, arguing about, what this new opening with the united states may mean. we were siewr curious about thet generation of cubans who will live in this new relationship so we went to the national university of the arts and talked to some students who were studying this week with the chicago jazz philharmonic. ernesto, what was the first thing you thought of when you heard the news? >> for me the first feeling was big happiness, big happiness, and i th

sony shouldn't have done this. i don't think sony should have backed off. in the end, it was the distributors. it was about a half dozen entities. those that control all of the screens across the country that all backed out and said we're not going to distribute this movie. i would like to see it put on demand and give americans on christmas day the opportunity to spend 5.99 or 6.99 and use it as a family activity and watch the movie at home in the protection of our own homes. that would send a wonderful message. >> you're not alone. one of the reporters asked president obama if he would see the movie. he said i have a long list of movies. before i let you go, i want to ask you about cuba. the president was asked about it. he said obviously he's pleased with what happened so far. he was clear in saying he doesn't plan on going to cuba and meeting with raul castro any time soon. you once interviewed fidel castro in his heart of hearts, do you think fidel castro feels that he and his brother have given it to the big yankee imperialista to the north. >> the be

moments ago the ceo of sony entertainment weighing in after the president slams sony. he says the president got it wrong. >> in this incident the president, the press and the public are mistaken as to what actually happened. we do not own movie theaters. we cannot determine whether or not a movie will be played in movie theaters. so to sort of rehearse for a moment the sequence of events, we experienced the worst cyber attack in american history and persevered for three and a half weeks under enormous stress and enormous difficulty. and all with the effort of trying to keep our business up and running and get this movie out in the public. >> chief white house correspondent ed henry is live at the white house. >> reporter: the president had a news conference and he talked about what was expected and what was unexpected. what was expected is that he had this new basically hit against north korea saying that the fbi believes with certainty that they've got a pile of evidence suggesting that north korea was behind this cyber attack against sony. and the president said this

if sony does not ever let the movie out. the authenticity of who has sent this message has not been verified but the message said we want you never let the movie released distributed or leaked any form saying it's very wise that you made the decision to cancel the interview. it will be very useful for you. we still have your private and sensitive data. we insure security for your data unless you make additional trouble. >> in light of the fbi announcing the north korean government was behind the attack they called it a despicable criminal act saying this is about the fact that criminals were able to hack in and steal what has now been identified as many times the volume of all of the printed material in the library of congress and threaten the livelihoods of thousands of americans that work in the film and television industry as well as the millions that simply choose to go to the movies. seth r sethrogen and james franco have been mum. sources tell me they're having conversation with the studio with sony about what happens

all of us can sit here in judgment of sony. the way i describe it. as sony. they acted perfectly rationally. if you are them. the rest of us have to live with the consequences. i think we don't have a good notion of how to both defend ourselves against cyberattacks and, not just the u.s. government. it is obviously private industry. as well as how to respond. so when people talk about warfare, what does that mean? how are we actually supposed to respond? and it's -- it is a new era in this regard. >> kevin, to you now. u.s. investigators learned the hackers stole the computer credentials of an administrator to get access to sony's computer system. how hard on a scale of one to ten is it to do what they did? >> well, it depend. dep pendz on their internal security how they shored up their defenses. the first thing an attacker well do. go after the system administrators. because they have access to the keys of the kingdom. in fact when i am doing a penetration test, a legal ethical hacking exercise. the first thing i go after is the administrator desk tops, to

>> well, right now sony has no comment. i actually just got a text message from the spokesperson there saying they're not going to comment on this rnc letter. what i'm curious about is to find out whether the theater owners, the amcs and the regales and the sin i he marks are going to comment because there are other potential distributors, maybe netflix, yoout, to find out if any are willing to step up and help sony release this movie. sony's point of view, rightly or wrongly, is they can't do it themselves. they need some help. and that's what i think is -- why it's interesting now that priebus is coming forward, calling on the theater owners to help. he said this, like many americans, i'm deeply concerned we would allow a foreign regime to dictate the movies we can and cannot watch. it's that kind of rhetoric that we may see from others in the days to come also. >> so how far do we go with this, do we then say it's the patriotic duty of every american citizen to go to those theaters to watch that movie, because we are not

sony owns playstation. they could have put it on video on demand when they pulled down their facebook and twitter pages, that shows me that they are not really backing the film. >> it was interesting, mel brooks' comments, he waited until hitler was dead to mock him. there has been some criticism that says, was this over the top in the way kim jong-un was portrayed. what do you say to that? >> i haven't seen the film. i don't know. i think you can obviously argue was this movie in poor taste or was it not on both sides? that's always the conversation when you are dealing with sat tire. we had james adomian playing a fictitious george bush. is this in poor taste or not? i think that's the beauty of art in comedies like this. >> john nolte, first of all, welcome to "meet the press." you spend a lot of time covering media and hollywood. you wrote a defense of sony here. it was surprising to a lot of your conservative followers. you defended sony's decision to delay the release. it is not up to sony to fight th

to sony staying was the fault of sony? duke says nope, what happened to freedom of speech and freedom of expression? liz: mike says no, but it would have been a dud anyway. are we confusing what the question is? dave: the question is essentially what about north korea and its association with sony? marco says this is an idle threat from north korea, we are talking about a child leader. george clooney is the only one in hollywood with guts. tend to agree with that. liz: it's time for the number one thing to watch next week. bring back forbes contributor carrie sheffield. number one thing to look at? >> number one thing is cuba. i want to see if the administration is going to extract confession from cuba. everybody is comparing this to china. china conceded a lot whether it was vietnam, proxy with the soviet union. there are a lot of things that china did that we don't see from cuba. dave: i covered cuba for 12 years for the "wall street journal." the number one difference is cubans are not allowed the same economic developm

okay, sony, i want some names. who did you speak to at the white house and what did you talk about and for how long and why didn't you consult the president of the united states if you thought this was in the nation national security interests. i believe it was not because of national security but for promotional purposes to create anticipation in the public and make a greater dollar. i find it hard to the believe that the president of the united states wouldn't take a phone call from the ceo of sony. that didn't happen. why didn't they talk to the president? they must have known the impact this was going to have and they did. they know the impact it's going to have on their wallet. tonight's question, do you think sony should have talked to president obama before cancelling the movie? text "a" for yes or "b" for now to 67622. for more let me bring in joe, the president of the plow shares fund and michael kay, former senior british officer and international affairs correspondent. it sure seems to me that it sheds l

sony playstation was hacked back in 2011. sony pictures was also hacked. now former sony employees are suing the company. what could sony have done in this instance to protect itself, if anything. >> we asked those questions. it's almost impossible for any company to protect against the kind of attack that has devastated sony. >> hidden behind security doors, a tokyo office that could be the set of a si-fi movie. they say this is the map that shows all the cyberattacks launched on japan in just the last month. >> hackers, targeting thousands of companies. for hundreds of them, this tokyo cybersecurity firm is the only line of defense. the hackers are always getting more advanced. sometimes too advanced for those trying to keep up. the chief technology officer knows a devastating hack like the one on sony pictures can penetrate even the best cyberdefense. >> you have all these experts here. could you have protected against an attack like this? could anybody protect against it? not 100%, he says. it's like watching a cold or getting the flu. or in sony's cas

the sony hack in that sense is like that. if they did a test in their own territory it's hard for them not to take credit for it. but this is typical the way they operate. >> how series of serious of a threat is this? are there other soft targets that they may be thinking of already? what concerns new this area? >> you there has always been a concern in the united states about soft targets whether it's private sector, financial industry, infrastructure, key infrastructure, and i think there have been a lot of efforts in the past to really harden those facilities. sunny pictures is clearly a soft target. another thing we have to remember while this was an attack against a particular movie they're on a path to development all the asystemmic capabilities they can use against big powers. north korea does not have the most sophisticated weaponry. it does not have a booming economy. they're looking for missiles, weapons of mass destruction and now cyber to throw their weight around the world, to disturb and disable other countries.

, or at least for sony pictures. explain what that means. what is actually at stake, not just for the leaders like amy pascale, but for everybody involved? what is on the line, in terms of movies financing, what the loss will be, but more broadly in terms of this studio's standing in hollywood? >> that is the question on the table. the movie itself, we published a story, you guys had a good story also, looking at the losses. the movie itself is about a $90 million loss right now. that is the cost of production cost of marketing. there are other losses that are estimated at having to rebuild the security infastructure, the digital infrastructure, the piracy of the five movies that were fully leaked online. that's tens of millions of dollars in that. that is certainly something the studio could withstand, and i think there is also potentially a valid insurance claim they could make against the cost of the movies they may be up to recoup through those means. when you are really asking is what is the future of sony pictu

it was more about sony. >> sony is an organization. i'm sympathetic to the concerns they have faced. having said all of that, yes, i think they made a mistake. we cannot have a society in which some dictator someplace can start imposing censorship here in the united states. because if somebody is able to intimidate folks out of releasing a satirical movie, imagine what they start doing when they see a documentary that they don't like. >> it is a fair point. and that is pretty blunt. the president of the united states coming out. if you are sony pictures, coming out and saying you made a mistake. that is not mincing words. well ceo from sony michael lynton replied. >> i don't know exactly whether he understand the sequence of events to the movies not being shown in the movie theaters and therefore i would disagree with the notion that it was a mistake. we have not given in. we have persevered and not backed down. >> our reporters are covering every angle of this story. jim acosta at the white house with what the investigators know about

and the market may not get too down on sony because which has only impacted sony pictures which is only 10% of the company's sales. but there are definitely big long-term questions about a-list celebrities not wanting to work with sony after their information was compromised. >> this is a very uncomfortable holiday season. >> exactly. some big stars like angelina jolie got to see what some of the movie executives were saying behind her back. and i think a lot of celebrities may not like that. >> yeah, not the holiday season that sony pictures was expecting. >> not at all. >> interesting stuff. thanks for being with us. >>> north korea making news elsewhere asking the united states nations security council to add torture by the cia to the agenda to its meeting next week. pyongyang calls the cia's harsh interrogation techniques brutal and medieval. this new move turns the tables north korea which is already on the security council for its human rights record. the council will call for north korea to be brought before international court for crimes against humanity. >>> eight minutes after

". >> sony is a corporation. it suffered significant damage. there were threats against its employees. i am sympathetic to the concerns that they faced. having said all that, yes, i think they made a mistake. >> so will hollywood be scared to make isis say the villain in a movie. can anyone threaten a terror attack to stop the release of a film. will the studios be scared to make a movie that will offend someone. we'll take a look at all those questions for the rest of the hour. let's talk about this with our panel. michael daily, lauri segal and bob baer. michael, is the president right? did sony make a mistake here? >> i think so. you know, the mistake was making the movie with an ending like that but given that mistake, you got the movie, i don't know how you let some bunch of hackers threaten you and commit you not to release a movie. i mean i just don't get it. >> although i imagine that beyond just trying to stand up for a nation, for the right of freedom of speech there was a business decision made here an

sony attacked but who hit sony and why? it is the worse cyber attack ever launched on an american business. outrage is growing. u.s. officials link north korea to the hacking of sony pictures. but the fbi is not yet officially blamed north korea. meanwhile, sony canceling the release of the interview after terrorist threats against movie theaters and now experts warning sony's surrender could lead to more cyber attacks and critics blasting sony for caving to terrorists. >> look at this. >> kim jong u.n. wants to do a interview with dave skylark. >> he is a fan. look at him. if that ain't a real story, i don't know what is. >> okay, let's do it. >> the sony story now completely out of control. >> i think this is a big victory for the bad guys. >> the story has changed with sony's capitulation to terrorists. >> the terrorists win. >> since when did we become a nation of with uses,. >> it is our patriotic duty to go and see this movie. >> hello north korea. >> preceding the interview, you will shake kim's hand with a fatal dos

is there something the government can do to help sony? new yorker magazine said the government should step in and say we will subsidize sony if there are losses on the film. what about that idea, the government trying to subsidize somehow help free expression? >> i don't think you want government jumping in and backstopping the private market. they need a policy response, the same way that you would have a policy response for a terror attack. the reaction from sony the uproar in the u.s. will only encourage further attacks. we need some kind of policy to implement to stop people from doing this. >> sony is taking a lot of heat, but if you were sitting in their corporate office right now facing the legal liability if something went wrong at one of these theaters across the country, you would be seriously concerned. now, onto vladimir putin's annual press conference. the president of russia spoke for more than three hours, showing everybody that he has his country under control even as the ruble topples. he said other countries are affectin

this wasn't the hack on sony. this attack hit the world's largest casino operation, including the venetian hotel in las vegas ten months ago, and this also may have been the work of a rogue nation. cnn has learned on february 10th of this year, thousands of employees at sands casinos in las vegas and bethlehem, pennsylvania, had their computers hit. one former employee says, quote, hundreds of people were calling i.t. iran is suspected to be behind the attack, according to reports in bloomberg business week and slate. sands won't comment. one expert believes iran has the capability to do this. >> the iranians and apparently the north koreans are doing are taking these tactics that anonymous has used and these other nonstate groups and really bringing this now nation state level to the attacks. >> reporter: the fbi tells cnn the investigation is ongoing. a sands official says gambling operations weren't affected, but the company was rattled. a former sands employee says customers couldn't book rooms online for a co

has stolen an estimated 1,000 territories bites from sony ranging from h.r. medical records of low level employees to salaries of star actors and actresses and i can't imagine how they are going to dig themselves out. the hackers demanded the movies release, be canceled all together. the world will be full of fear, remember the 11th of september 2001, we recommend you to keep yourself distant from the places at that time. but still a string of major themes canceled their showings and on wednesday sony pulled the plug. >> studios by nature are very risk adverse, and so what the result of what has happened to sony is probably going to make a second or third or fourth look. that is controversial or sensitive to parties that have the ability to do something. >> the elite of hollywood lambasting the decision on social media. wow, everyone caved. the hackers won, and utter and complete victory for them. that seemed like a horrible precedent to set, and even documentary film maker chimed in dear sony hackers. now that you run hollywood, i'd also likeless romantic co

that's the sony argument. put aside the insurance clauses you could release this online to make a statement separate from the money motive if you wanted. >> well, ari, yeah, i can't disagree with that, but, you know, only sony knows what additional documents have not yet been dumped. and the question really is -- the question really is this, and this is what i wrote a few days ago. the question is, why do we expect sony to be the one responsible for fighting the fight against north korea? is it really sony? is it really the corporation's obligation to fight this fight? you know, i'm surprised at this. we know corporations few digsary responsibility is to shareholder value. we know that. and, in fact, i think sony pictures, even assuming for a moment they had an opportunity to release it theatrically kind of had to make a decision here because their decision is to make sure of the viability of sony pictures. that they can move forward. that they can move -- actually make more motion pictures in the future. and

we have new information about the huge cyber attack on sony pictures which resulted in sony pulling the film "the interview" from theaters. investigators believe they know how hackers penetrated the computer system. u.s. officials briefed on the information tell cnn they stole the computer password of the system administrator. there is also word u.s. officials are very close to naming north korea as the official suspected perpetrator of the cyber attack. cnn's will ripley is live in tokyo. the head of the sony headquarters. >> reporter: the latest is there are multiple things developing. for one, u.s. officials are hours away from naming north korea. here in japan, where sony headquarters is located, the company stands to be dealt a major financial blow. the japanese government is staying mostly silent on this issue. the chief cabinet secretary says he doesn't believe this will affect the japanese and north korea relations, which are shaky as japan tries to get answers about the string of unsolved kidnappings dating back decades. we are learning more about the breach and the steps sony

an attorney retained by sony said this on "meet the press" just a few minutes ago. >> remember, sony only delayed this. sony has been fighting to get this picture distributed. it will be distributed. how it's going to be distributed i don't think anybody knows quite yet, but it's going to be distributed. >> i'll tell you a little background about how this story is happening. some e-mail servers at sony are still having trouble. the best way to communicate is via their personal cell phones not their work phones and one source told me we are still pursuing all options. could be it independent theater owners maybe? i think we will find out in the days to come. i have a guest standing by in hollywood. he's very concerned that this movie might never be seen. he's gary michael walters, the ceo of bold films. it's a company behind movies like "drive," "whiplash" and "night crawler" in theaters right now. thanks for being here. >> great to be here. thanks for having me. >> tell me what the problem would be with this movie never getting into the public domain. >> i think that would be terribl

sony finally speaks. our interview in the middle of the cyber hacking drama over the movie comedy that sparked a real life showdown between the united states and north korea. today, at the white house, president obama blamed north korea for hacking into sony picture's computer network and threatening another 9/11 if sony released the interview. seth rogan, james franco send-up of kim jong-un. the united states would respond which would make headlines. this, however, is what really got people talking. the president criticized sony for cancelling the release of the film. >> sony's a corporation. it, you know, suffered significant damage. there were threats against its employees. i am sympathetic to the concerns that they faced. having said all of that, yes, i think they made a mistake. >> sony made a mistake, he said. now, it's not often that a president singles out a company or a person, for that matter or really speaks this bluntly. >> i wish they had spoken to me first. i would have told them, do not get

caller: i sought the interview with the ceo of sony corporation. living in colorado, i can understand his reluctance to put it out right away. e had a movie theater shooting in colorado and a still has not come to trial and there is an attempted lawsuit against the theater. i can understand there has been a threat and that sony corporation does not respond in an appropriate way, they could also be held liable and undergo a lawsuit. i can understand why sonny has taken their position. the reason i am not so sure to see the movie is because i want to see the movie. host: this is from "the washington post" - by the way, the president applauded sony's decision to authorize the screenings of the film. bill,go to william in and pennsylvania, you're not sure? yes, i probably won't go to see it in the theater but more than likely i will watch it if it comes on cable. i don't know if i am being cynical but it seems to me that this is generated an awful lot of free publicity for their movie. host: yes. caller: that's my take on it. host: does that make you n

forget about sony. with he don't react well to some tin pot dictator telling us what we can read, speak or do. >> that's what we've done. >> that's what sony has done. i think there will be a movement among the american people to show solidarity here in favor of the first amendment. they say they won't release it digitally. somebody will get a copy. it will be distributed on the internet and there will be a movement to spread the film far and wide. the intent of this from north korea, at least in part which was to keep it from getting seen, that's not going to work. >> we backed out. we pulled our movie out. you won. that's what it looks like. >> they won against sony. between this and cuba, it's a good day for charity and bad day for freedom. >> as buck mentioned, this move may cost sony millions and millions of dollars in what amounts to a form of ransom. joining me now is howard kurtz. obviously a big loss for sony. they backed down in this. whether or not that was a good idea remains to be seen. >>

but when they started to back out last week and sony told them they could back out, sony canceled the movie. those big chains like amc and regal scheduled other movies instead and now we see the moving going to independently owned theaters these are the art house cinemas in major cities. like 200 are now on board and the theater owners still have a few more minutes to tell sony they want to play the movie so we could see more than 300 get on board. >> i'm glad you explained there are the arts theaters, not the big one but you can still get up to 10% without the big ones getting on board. what changed? sony was changed with 9/11 style attacks on moviegoers and that is why the theaters backed out but has something changed in terms of the threat assessment or are they just saying we're going to do it. >> there is still no real evidence of physical threat to the theaters. one, there was a lot of anger at sony for canceling the movie, at hollywood and the white house. we saw the white house today come out and say they applauded the decision. when was the last time we saw the administration

it's not just sony. sony is good at defenses. sony has invested in this. they have seen attacks before. the rest of the u.s. corporations have the same vulnerabilities that sony does. we can't just look at the private sector. it's going to have to rearchitect. the government has to be involved in defending. then we will have the option of being more offensive. i think until we set up the defenses, being offensive is going to be very challenging. >> should we be engaging in cyber warfare ethically? >> well, i don't think there's an ethical issue here. i think as mike points out, there's a practical issue in terms of our own vulnerability. also recall, north korea is a nuclear state. it's very close to south korea and japan. those are considerations as well. you cannot let this go unanswered. in addition to the suggestion that the ambassador made about putting them on the terrorist list, back on the list, we ought to at least consider some kind of covert action that would make them pay a price. last thing is this, if they are using the chinese infrastructure

said, listen, guys, sony is negligent for not securing the walls of -- the firewalls of the entire sony signer network if you will -- cyber network if you will. and sony conceded there was no known vulnerability. so take it away. >> it doesn't matter that 2011 breach. that's because the issue is what the court will look at, whether or not sony took reasonable precautions to protect the employee data. not meaning go over the top, not meaning the most reasonable and recent technology. 2011 attack does not say sony that they have to plug in every vulnerability. just requires a reasonable precaution. >> what is reasonable precaution, richard? >> reasonable precaution is saying that they did something, rather than do nothing at all. that's about it. i'll take it one step further. >> go. >> in order for the plaintiff to be successful they have to prove there are damages. at this point in time what's the injury? right, it's duty, breach, causation, injury. the injury, the proximate cause of injury is because they breached the injury. that's one of the reasons why they're not going to be succes

all of them to their sony e-mail addresses. it's in the same format and tone of the prior messages so sony believes it is legitimate. they are also not publicly commenting. they're going refrain from saying anything about this. but we might see comment from other studios or comment from the motion pictures association of america which represents the entire industry. because so far there's been a lot of quiet, a lot of silence from other hollywood studios and i don't think that will last much longer. >> i want to pick up on that point because you reference george clooney. for those that aren't aware, george clooney wrote this open letter, if you will, and tried to get a bunch of people a petition. he tried to get people to support sony. he didn't get any takers. he's hearing the crickets as well. >> this was in between the time on tuesday when that threat came out that invoked 9/11 that warned people not to go to movie theaters and on wednesday when sony decided to cancel. he tried to get other studios, other big-name actors to

sony attacked but who hit sony and why? it is the worse cyber attack ever launched on an american business. outrage is growing. u.s. officials link north korea to the hacking of sony pictures. but the fbi is not yet officially blamed north korea. meanwhile, sony canceling the release of the interview after terrorist threats against movie theaters and now experts warning sony's surrender could lead to more cyber attacks and critics blasting sony for caving to terrorists. >> look at this. >> kim jong u.n. wants to do a interview with dave skylark. >> he is a fan. look at him. if that ain't a real story, i don't know what is. >> okay, let's do it. >> the so

you see sony right now. the biggest agitator is people saying, huh oh, i said stuff in my e-mail i don't want people to hear and i think the story of an individual building an enterprise and buys for $12.5 million and then billions and then crumble away sends a message to everybody which is, watch what you say. >> economically paid. it's like some people said that if he failed like that, i'd like to fail like that. you know what i'm saying? >> yeah. failing lucratively. >> the story here is this great story you see all over business and politics, which is the idea that if i do something really well then i can do everything really well and the story of eddie is the story of someone that's successful in the area of hedge funds and investments. it's clearly a success on every which level but the work in sears is not so and down nine consecutive quarters and struggling to find their way and i think the problem is at the top and the issue really is that just because one can invest well doesn't mean one can -- >>

and now experts warning sony's surrender could lead to more cyber attacks and critics blasting sony for caving to terrorists. >> look at this. >> kim jong u.n. wants to do a interview with dave skylark. >> he is a fan. look at him. if that ain't a real story, i don't know what is. >> okay, let's do it. >> the sony story now completely out of control. >> i think this is a big victory for the bad guys. >> the story has changed with sony's capitulation to terrorists. >> the terrorists win. >> since when did we become a nation of with uses,. >> it is our patriotic duty to go and see this movie. >> hello north korea. >> preceding the interview, you will shake kim's hand with a fatal dose of poison it is critical that you hutch nothing. [sneeze] >> you are about to hear from another outraged critic of sony donald trump. first, former u.n. ambassador john bolton joins us. good evening, sir. >> it's not official yet. the u.s. hasn't said that it is north korea and whether they acted alone or not. but it is said that the u.s. is weighing a response. a proportional response. what in the world

sony had no choice! >> i can't blame the theater for not having -- they will be sued to beat the band if something happens in a theater when they brought all those people in. and they also consider the people that are in their theater as neighborhood folks. >> i must say, i have a different view of it. there is clearly the threat of violence if they showed this film. if anybody had been killed or badly hurt, it is not worth this. the fact is that you don't take the slightest chance of a catastrophic outcome. and this, showing this film in many, many different theaters, you would never be able to protect them if they sent in a half dozen people to create violence. so i think that is one thing that is absolutely, in my judgment, appropriate. >> will this open up hollywood to future imtimidation, mort? >> it's possible. it's possible. but you won't have something like north korea on the other side of the issue. >> activist groups, terrorists, they will all do it. >> hollywood's got responsibility, too. i me

we are talking to sony it at this point. the issue really has to do with the nature of how well they are handling passwords and accounts within their environment. this was a major breach. it went across everything they own. >> did sony follow the correct protocols when it comes to unveiling and releasing information relating to the hack attack? >> there is no protocol for this. it is an unprecedented type of attack. the escalation yesterday, with regard to threatening exhibitors of the movie, that is without precedent. some of the attacks involved money and extortion. no one has ever threatened physical violence as an outcome. this is different. it does not follow any pattern we have seen before. >> devon mccrea, is it possible that sony could cover the $44 million they spent to create the film? >> there is insurance coverage for production. it will depend on the language of the policy they have. >> phil lieberman, what would you suggest to the actors and professionals involved in making the film about the future of their on

has stolen an estimated 1,000 territories bites from sony ranging from h.r. medical records of low level employees to salaries of star actors and actresses and i can't imagine how they are going to dig themselves out. the hackers demanded the movies release, be canceled all together. the world will be full of fear, remember the 11th of september 2001, we recommend you to keep yourself distant from the places at that time. but still a string of major themes canceled their showings and on plug. >> studios by nature are very risk adverse, and so what the result of what has happened to sony is probably going to make a second or third or fourth look. that is controversial or sensitive to parties that have the ability to do something. >> the elite of hollywood lambasting the decision on social media. wow, everyone caved. the hackers won, and utter and complete victory for them. that seemed like a horrible precedent to set, and even documentary film maker chimed in dear sony hackers. now that you run hollywood, i'd also likeless romantic comedies, fewer michael bay

>> it is viewed on the administration side in terms of what sony chose to do. the company is in a very bad place right now. justice department officials made clear throughout the course of the investigation sony has been very helpful and forthcoming. you heard the president last night in an interview with abc before sony pulled it saying americans should go to the movies. there is no indication that the threat of some type of terrorist attack was valid or real. they were wary of it. i think when it comes to negotiating with terrorists in this case, the administration's policies have been firm, don't do it. but sony is an independent company and can operate on their own grounds. >> was there an official white house response to the discussion? >> there was. this came up in the next day. the white house press secretary said to quote home, something that made everybody cringe. they weren't going to way in on the executives but the white house has been confronted with these issues. but they try and spin this as a way to say this wasn't a good idea and this is recogn

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and sony should know better. and i really think for them this is strictly about they do not want to be embarrassed anymore than they already have been. and there are things they don't want to come out to the public that could hurt their relations with actors, with directors, and others. and so this is about their bottom line. i don't think it's about them worrying about the 40, $50 million they lose on this film. it may be about the bigger ones to come and that's not good enough reason to pull it when dealing with terrorists. >> stop right there for the moment. this is not the end of the conversation. in the meantime, we will take a break so we can update you on some other news. breaking news tonight that is coming tragically from new york. two police officers shot and killed in an ambush-style attack here in the city, actually brooklyn. we'll have a live report with details, next. ♪ ♪ my baby drove up in a brand new cadillac. ♪ ♪ my baby drove up in a brand new cadillac. ♪ ♪ look here, daddy, i'm nev

if i were sony, i might ask the u.s. government why weren't you there to protect us from a nation state from attacking us? i think michael linton, the ceo of sony, i got to work with him at the broadcasting board of governors, he's an extremely thoughtful gooir. today when he did an interview, even when the president attacked sony publicly in front of the world, they were still class si and did not strike that. but they might. >> if i were sony right now, really, president obama? we made a mistake? i tell you what, we're going to release it at the bequest and behest of obama. what do you think of that? then they hang it on him off themselves. >> you're scaring me. the thing that i find amazing is that if anybody believes that north korea can do this without china number one. the other thing is what are you going to do to north korea? in fact? what are you going to do, hack into their prison system? the thing that i found interesting, i hate to say this but i have to. >> let's move on to the other big story of the week, t

a woman code named lena, a former sony employee who he says worked for sony for several years. guideline says lena has ties to the hacking group guardians of peace which claims responsibility for the sony hit. guideline says lena was a security staffer with sony who had what he calls super user access to the company's cybersecrets. user names and passwords to critical systems. he says lena had two motives for hack. >> first of all, how sony treated its employees layoffs that were going on in the department but also a bigger issue around piracy and how sony is treating those. who had pirated music have and movies and other content and how they had been prosecuted in the u.s. and other countries. >> experts have lingering doubts about north korea's ability to carry out such a sophisticated attack. >> it's beyond the skill level that we've been able to observe. >> but if north korea did commit the sony hack, analysts say it would have been done about i asia doey unit of the government which they say conducts cyberwarfare. it's commanded by general kim young, a bormer bodyguard for

cannot break. >> reporter: eight former sony employees filed suit against sony this week, charging they failed to protect its personal data. one suit seeks class action status, anthony, for 50,000 current and former sony workers whose information was stolen by these hackers. >> mason: john blackstone. thank you, john. at his news conference today, the president also defended his decision to restore diplomatic relations with cuba, saying it gives the u.s. better opportunity to bring about change there. so what does the future hold? scott pelley spent time today with some young cubans in havana. >> pelley: in havana today, cubans are still talking about, arguing about, what this new opening with the united states may mean. we were curious about the first generation of cubans who will live in this new relationship, so we went to the national university of the arts and talked to some students who were studying this week with the chicago jazz philharmonic. c.nesto, what was the first thing you thought of when you heard the news? >> for me, the first feeling was big happiness, big happiness,

a few minutes ago, sony released -- sony announced it will release "the interview" to select theaters on chris mistake. journalistsdy about hired to kill north korean leader kim jong-un. more on sony's decision coming up on "bloomberg west." now to the lead and more on the north korea and sony arehack. outages, even more of them, as parts of the country are back online. is it the u.s. or sony pictures itself? told trishtom ridge regan how he would like the u.s. to respond. >> i would like them to click on the internet and see the stars be theipes flag and may star-spangled banner being played. that would send a message that says, look, we know who you are. we can get into your system. don't do it again. >> jordan robertson joins us from washington and also lucas shaw. width of theatest sony decision to seemingly reversed themselves and show the movie? >> the latest is that sony has issued a statement from sony .ntertainment ceo mike litton they haven't provided much more detail on that they said they are try to get more platforms and they want it in as many theaters as possible. it is

system. >> sony's a corporation. you know it suffered significant damage. there were threats against some employees. i'm sympathetic to the concerns that they've faced. having said all that, yes, i think they made a mistake. i wish they had spoken to me first. i would have told them do not get into a pattern in which you're intimidated by these kinds of criminal attacks. >> i have to give the president credit first. he's never given a more direct answer to any question, but he displayed no perceptible sign of the irony of his response to sony's response. it was mr. obama's white house that then asked google to remove the mohammed video from google's youtube service. the president went on to promise a quote, proportional response to north korea. just minutes after the press conference reports surfaced that the president is considering retaliation. he's actually thinking about put putting north korea back on the list of state sponsors of terrorism. a designation that has not stopped the ieotola. when asked about the lo