because al qaeda central one of their effective branches as america saying and al qaeda saying al qaeda in yemen or al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. they have been urging for two things attacking in the west because they are attacking the so-called global jihad and the avenge on the cartoon. a few months ago they have this very english speaking magazine. they urge their members to commit attacks inside paris and even in denmark, in 2008 responding to osama bin laden at that time, they attacked with the suicide bombs at the danish embassy in islamabad. this is a history and not surprising they claim responsibility. the significance of that attack that we were talking about on the isis we are seeing al qaeda back now. >> of course. the security force. everybody has been very much focused on i.s. islamic state and al qaeda seems to have moved away from that top spot. >> there were speculations saying now finish the al qaeda and now it seems not and now we've heard today they were orchestrating this attack. some observers have seen that they will try to regain their place. and it has been

eye witnesses said the men claimed to be from al qaeda with one specifically saying they were al qaeda in yemen. these are more data points that go towards this picture of the involvement of a foreign terrorist organization. finally, on this -- this is sort of an element of interest at this point -- today in new york city al-masri was sentenced to life in prison on terrorism charges. al-masri was like the talent spotter for al qaeda at the mosque in north london. he is important because he was the one who selected richard reid, the shoe bomber in 2001 in addition to muse dmousi, and the british media is reporting one of the kouachi brothers was also pond at thed by al-masri. >> the dual standoff that gripped france earlier today both ends within minutes of the oomph here's what we saw and what we heard as it happened. >> this is sky news. this is northeast of the airport. something is happening clearly. let's listen. [ gunshots ] >> let's go straight to ian woods. >> you're coming back to us here outside dammartin pass. sive amount of gunfire has began in the last ten seconds or so. we

against al qaeda. we have to take all of these groups, what they say about this, with a great till of skepticism. a what is clear to me both from the reporting we have seen at other news outlets and also for my own sources is that aqap at a minimum had these brothers in a camp, a training camp in yemen provided them with training, discussed with them, i understand from sources inside yemen, the idea they should be attacking media outlets that have published image of the prophet mohammed particularly those who have done so in a demeaning or what they consider to be a disgraceful manner. the context of this, amy, is that in june 2010, al qaeda in the arabian peninsula released its first issue of a glossy, fancy design magazine in the english link which called "inspire." they had an image that was centered around the idea of a cartoon crusade. they called on muslims in the west to avenge the reputation and the sanctity of the prophet mohammed by going and killing cartoonist who are participating in a "dra

qaeda central but instead to spread al qaeda everywhere. to spread al qaeda ideology and very specific terroristic tactics all over the world by radicalizing individual people essentially by remote control wherever they are. don't travel, carry out your terrorist attack at home. the point of inspire is to literally inspire al qaeda-style attacks in the west. among english-speaking militants. that are separate from any direct al qaeda instruction or in-person training at some training camp in afghanistan or something. less than a year ago inspire published a hit list for top priority western targets. they titled the list, a bullet a day keeps the infidel away. that's kind of the tone of the al qaeda magazine. their whole list is all western targets and western countries, people who have committed some perceived insults to islam. the list includes author salman rushdie who has been under death threats for decades now, the koran burning crazy pastor guy in florida was there, but mostly people involved in drawing and publishing cartoons that de

he traveled to yemen, he met senior al qaeda cleric anwar al-awlaki. he later discovered contradictions in the quran, he wound up denounceing the faith and became a double agent for european intelligence services and worked for the cia later as well. he became such a trusted friend to al-awlaki that he was tasked to finding him a wife. he mentions a trusted brother who was in fact a double agent. >> known specifically -- and the brother who's carrying this recording is trustworthy brother. >> at some point after awlaki's death it was discovered. militants can be seen firing at a picture of him. the cia has neither confirmed nor denied his work as an informant. an alleged meeting reveals the true extent of his mission. >> i'm helping -- not talking about alex and george. i'm talking about the -- but he knows about who i am. so the right people know your contributions. >> yeah. >> and for that we are thankful. >> interesting, right? >> i got a chance to speak with martin storm, co-author of agent storm, a memoir on how he was a double agent in al qaeda a

the al qaeda affiliate in yemen is more ambitious and more dangerous than al qaeda parent organization of ayman zawahiri today in afghanistan and pakistan. it plotted several attacks. few groups that plotted several attacks against the american homeland and basically they were basically discovered by the u.s. security forces. and again, the attack in paris is obviously either directly or indirectly linked to al qaeda and the arabian peninsula, so the focus on al qaeda and the araba arab i don't know peninsula is not new. what is new is it has finally succeeded in other directly or indirectly carrying out a successful attack tack in the heart of europe that is france and obviously there are other potential attacks in the making and that's why the anxiety in europe at this particular moment. >> thank you for the perspective. i have a lot more questions for you including talking about isis and aqap possibly coming together and strength thenning as they merge rather than i'm battle later on. we'll have you later on on the program to talk with us about that. thank you. >>> the "charlie hebd

qaeda inspired or actually al qaeda directed. what do you think we've learned today given that these are attackers who had said according to reports that they were trained by al qaeda. they wanted to brandish or share that link. and yet as we've been discussing they had no coordination, apparently, about any extraction or larger support to get out of there. >> no. they normally wouldn't. al qaeda will try to direct an attack, even when they're more closely involved than in this one. they're not going to have any personnel there to try to extract them. basically when you're in the west on an operation, you're on your own. this operation, the more we learn about it we see a very close tie to al qaeda, unlike a lot of the lone wolf operations over the last year or two. these people had connections with al qaeda in yemen, which really is the fward operating element of qushgsd the traditional al qaeda right now. they were there. they were trained. they got direction from them as well. the "inspire" magazine particularly targeted this

he said that he was from al qaeda in yemen. he said that he was specifically sent on this mission, which was financed by -- these are his claims -- anwar al awlaki. anwar al awlaki is the late anwar alaki was one of their top recruiters, a u.s. citizen killed by an american drone strike in 2011. he seemed quite calm on the phone. he seemed like he wanted the world to know who he was and why they were doing it and that they were doing it in his explanation, to defend the prophet muhammad from being insulted by this magazine and he said he did not consider that an act of murder. >> richard engel, nbc news chief foreign correspondent in france tonight we thank you for your time. we'll be right back. good job! still running in the morning? yeah. getting your vegetables every day? when i can. [ bop ] [ male announcer ] could've had a v8. two full servings of vegetables for only 50 delicious calories. >>> back with me now, jim arkedis, jim caff nowvanaugh and evan coleman. where do we go from here? >> it's a tough one. anwar al awlak

qaeda central but instead to spread al qaeda everywhere. to spread al qaeda ideology and very specific terroristic tactics all over the world by radicalizing individual people essentially by remote control wherever they are. don't travel carry out your terrorist attack at home. the point of inspire is to literally inspire al qaeda-style attacks in the west. among english-speaking militants. that are separate from any direct al qaeda instruction or in-person training at some training camp in afghanistan or something. less than a year ago inspire published a hit list for top priority western targets. they titled the list a bullet a day keeps the infidel away. that's kind of the tone of the al qaeda magazine. their whole list is all western targets and western countries, people who have committed some perceived insults to islam. the list includes author salman rushdie who has been under death threats for decades now, the koran burning crazy pastor guy in florida was there, but mostly people involved in drawing and publishing cartoons that depi

yemen -- al qaeda in yemen, aqap as the big group, now you have al qaeda in yemen specifically claiming responsibility for the deadly attack on "charlie hebdo." it calls the two terrorist brothers heroes of islam. but notes that a third attacker strike on the kosher grocery store was just a coincidence. >> now, top commander says al qaeda picked the target and laid out the plans for the karachi brothers to follow. the video message warns of more quote tragedies and terror to come. this as new video emerges of the two terrorists in the moments right after the massacre. we have complete coverage for you, let's begin with senior international correspondent nick payton walsh in beirut. nick? >> this video, 12 minutes in length lays out the command structure as they claim in detail. it refers to how the head of al qaeda was involved in giving instructions and the operational command was carried out by an american a now-deceased american anwar al awlaki killed by an air strike in 2011. it refers to the kouachi brothers as heroes but it doesn't mention that amedy coulibaly, was one of those, p

qaeda central but instead to spread al qaeda everywhere. to spread al qaeda ideology and very specific terroristic tactics all over the world by radicalizing individual people essentially by remote control wherever they are. don't travel, carry out your terrorist attack at home. the point of inspire is to literally inspire al qaeda-style attacks in the west. among english-speaking militants. that are separate from any direct al qaeda instruction or in-person training at some training camp in afghanistan or something. less than a year ago inspire published a hit list for top priority western targets. they titled the list, a bullet a day keeps the infidel away. that's kind of the tone of the al qaeda magazine. their whole list is all western targets and western countries, people who have committed some perceived insults to islam. the list includes author salman rushdie who has been under death threats for decades now, the koran burning crazy pastor guy in florida was there, but mostly people involved in drawing and publishing cartoons that de

it's feared without these fighters al-qaeda could easily make a comeback. >> in 2011, al-qaeda's local branch imposed sharia, overrun the province and declared an islamic emirate. a year later the army backed by local forces drove them out. it was a heavy cost. >>ings and shops are completely destroyed, al-qaeda used to rule here but it remains active and carries out attacks against government buildings and targets local fighters. >> two years after the battles ended, the devastation is clear. al-qaeda's am pain of bombings and attacks is on going. the area is on the edge and the men who fought al-qaeda angry. the government pays them around $150 a month but they say the state is absent and weak. fighters protest outside the governor's office. they are demanding justice for com address killed by al-qaeda a few days earlier. this commander it is four of his group's senior members were murdered. >> all the people here left because of the evil al-qaeda and now there are people in authority who adopt it. al-qaeda is led by senior people within the state. there are hidden hands and fingers

there are al-qaeda branches. the al-qaeda branch in yemen is one branch. you have isis part of this particular family. they have shifted tactics now. they're relying on lone wolf attackers, supporters will take actions in their own hands. obviously what we've seen in paris in the last 72 hours is that this is not a lone wolf attack. this is a limited specific network that carried out a highly successful attack in the heart of paris and regardless of what happened i think you can see various al-qaeda branches celebrating this particular attack in france because you know france is seen as a spearhead of the fight against the various al-qaeda groups in the world. >> michael: just another >> just another question, that's on the recruiting grounds of paris. the north african muslims on the fringes, who don't feel they're part of society, is this as fertile a recruiting ground as it appears? >> absolutely. this is not as speculative of a question that you know, this is a fact, if you look at the defense, and i know france very well i go on a weekly basis. i teac

all have al qaeda allegiances. then you have this isis group that used to be an al qaeda named affiliate. and it's interesting that the fight between the two wasn't necessarily about who was going to be in charge at the time. but, when you look at what baghdadee wanted to ee baghdadi wanted to do. wanted to attack outside of syria, iraq jordan. other places. zawahiri said no we don't want you to do that. we want-up to focus. never about brutality or power. it was abut just having a fundamental disagreement. he said i have access to all people with western passports. we can do more. we should do more. that was the split. so we remembered the ideals are all the same. they have the same goals same tactic. what we are talking abut hereoutabout, getting concerned. he competes for finances recruits. competes for operational status. meaning can we get people logistically in and out of places. the government monitors 21 al qaeda affiliates. half have pledged support to isis in some way. either overtly or covertly. meaning

it didn't say al qaeda did it. they praised it and warned of more attacks against the french people if some criticize or insult islam. now, we do know that late friday al qaeda in the arabian peninsula said that they have indeed directed the co-ashy brothers. we know one of the perpetrators cherif kouachi, he came to yemen and was financed. >> this was a spectacular attack if we accept that it was directed by al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. what does it tell us about the state of al qaeda in yemen, given that it objected to drone attacks in the united states? >> i think the drone attacks killed prominent members of the group. however, it didn't end there. danger north - it ended the groups intent to carry out huge and global ta tacks. -- global attacks. al qaeda, if we believe they are the ones behind the paris shooting it is the biggest attack they managed to achieve on a global scale. if i read to you a number of things this they were behind i think you'll have - our viewers will have an idea they were behind

he cited a confidential al-qaeda source in yemen. days later, aqap put out an official statement confirming it took responsibility. we welcome you both to democracy now! iona craig, tell us what is happening right now in yemen and who the houthi militants are. >> what is happening now, it is really political posturing on behalf of of the houthis. they have kidnapped the presidential aides, the chief of staff in order to get that leverage. in the fighting we saw in the last 20 four hours is also part of that. the negotiations at the moment are going on for the release of the chief of staff in exchange for changing the draft constitution. the issue with the houthis they were formed as a movement in 2004 and then fought the government and six wars between 2004-2010. but they then became part of the arab spring. they put down their weapons, join the protest joined the siddons, particularly in sana'a and became part of the peaceful movement. the transition that followed that was backed by the international community can actually instigate

qaeda in yemen and how he led the cia to al qaeda leader anwar al awlaki. good to have you with us tonight. >> thank you very much ma'am. thank you. >> your story is extraordinary. and you have an insight into this situation that very few people can bring to the table. so as you look at what has happened over the course of this last week, what does it tell you about what could be coming next? >> it looks very, very pessimistic for me. unfortunately we have seen the sleeping cells waking up now. there are absolutely more out there, al qaeda and isis have -- and they have even claimed responsibility from yemen. the threats have not only been threats anymore. they're actually a reality. they will continue. >> you talk about the fact that, you know, aqap and isis were combined in this particular attack because we know that the man who did the attack at the supermarket claimed allegiance to isis and the other two to aqap. how unusual is that and what does it signal? >> well, it signals that it's a bad signal to be honest. it's the worst case scenario. that if th

>> he was al qaeda, core al qaeda, based in pakistan formerly held by bin laden. al qaeda's chief recruiter in europe tied to not only the "charlie hebdo" attackers, but also amedy coulibaly, who took that kosher market. this draws a direct line to overseas terror organizations and to this point, the discussion had been is aqap which the "charlie hebdo" attackers said they were tied to, you also have amedy coulibaly saying that he pledged allegiance to isis. now you have a direct tie to core al qaeda in pakistan. it's a confusing mix of allegiance but direct lines to overseas terrorist organizations. why do we care about this back home in the u.s.? because each of these groups are ones that u.s. counterterror officials believe pose a real threat to the u.s. and it shows them active in a way and with an m.o. that has been different from their m.o. in the past. it expands the severity of the threat tonight. >> hayat boumeddiene had believed she was in the kosher market at the time of the hostage takeover. but we now have video showing her entering turkey on january

al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, aqap, al qaeda's yemen franchise. in their twitter account, a senior leader claims credit for the attack on charlie hebdo, carried out by the kouachi brothers. the video claims the order for these attacks came directly from the head of al qaeda. aman al zawahiri. at least one of the kouachi brothers spent time in yemen training with al qaeda, training with aqap in 2011. we have already known this. they seemed intent on making it known they were loyal to al qaeda in yemen. during the hostage crisis that ended with his death, the youngest brother telling a french tv station he was sent by yemen's al qaeda. quote, i went there and anwar al awlaki financed me. an american citizen in a leading aqap cleric just before he was killed in a u.s. drone attack four years ago now, in 2011. it's important to note in this al qaeda video released today, the group specifically claims credit for just the charlie hebdo attacks. they are not claiming credit for the hostage siege at the kosher grocery store that was carried out by couliba

al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. omar one of the brothers claim to have been funded by aqa. how credible are those claims? >> well, it came from his own mouth when he spoke to a french media saying he was financed by al qaeda in the arabian peninsula and financed by anwar al alki. we have confirmation from one of the yemeni officials who believed the brother was in yemen in 2011, and an audiomessage from one of the senior members of the group he didn't claim directly the attack but he did praise what he called the battle of paris response of insults to afronts to islam and its prophet. >> aqa omar, has been subjected to pretty regular drone attacks hasn't it, american drone attacks and yet it seems to have dusted itself down and stage this attack which of course has registered far and beyond the location of the attacks in paris, and just outside of paris. >> that's absolutely right. let me give you some context to whole of this. now al qaeda was found it came to prominence in yemen in the year 2000 when they bombed t

qaeda yemen, seemed to go off message admitting al qaeda in afghanistan is not decimated or on the run as mr. obama claims. >> aq core also clearly remains a threat as we've talked about. isis is a different kind of threat, as we've also talked about which is why we're going after them in iraq and syria. >> and tonight the french ambassador told fox news the kouachi brothers got their weapons in belgium at a cost of about 5,000 euro which is is $6,000 u.s. martha. >> catherine, thank you very much. >> you're welcome. >> so the prime minister of israel is sharing some new warnings about what he calls "extreme islam's threat to the entire world," he says. up next we'll speak to israel's ambassador to the united states about what that means for leaders around the globe. plus, with the state of the union just cay days away why is the president talking up new internet regulations and methane gas? we're going to talk to chris stirewalt about a possible answer. and senator rand paul was today challenging governor mitt romney. just ahead we're going to have the senator's reaction to this quest

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if he is known to be al-qaeda affiliated he is fighting with al-qaeda around the south and southeast of the country, how come you let him go? he said he is looking for the details. >> and i'm sure it would be interesting to hear his response, whether they have conversations with the french and other european authorities to keep him on their watch list as well. >> absolutely i got the sense, david, after the foreign interview if you will with our producer that the official was a bit cornered in a position that he doesn't -- he doesn't feel comfortable about, because it is really embarrassing for him as an intelligence officer. that's why he came out and escaped the whole thing by saying he will come back to us. david let me point out one important thing for our viewers in general, how important this al-qaeda group is. it is described by the americans as the most active branch of al-qaeda, it joined forces between al-qaeda in yemen and al-qaeda in saudi arabia in 2009. and let me tell you some of the operations that the group claim responsibility for. remember the little rock shooting

>> but there is an american war on al qaeda. does this suggest that al qaeda resurging, is stronger? how do we gauge where we are in that fight? >> here's the problem. the wars on al qaeda are wars ever of attrition. who decides when the group has been eliminated? it's almost impossible. in iraq and afghanistan, the u.s. did not leave when there was an absolute decision that the wars were over. they left essentially on an brear date when they decide they had -- an arbitrary date when they dieded they had done enough. gwen: thank you. guys. that was a very smart conversation after a very troubling week. so, all right. when congress came back to town this week, its leaders declared they were ready to act. so today, for the 10th time, the house passed a bill demanding that the president approve the keystone xl pipeline. and the president's spokesman said he would veto it. >> we continue to be blocked by this administration. there's already a veto threat out there, but i don't think that threat should deter us from our initiative, b

is it an ally of isis or al qaeda or neither? >> they have never pledged official allegiance to al-baghdadi but they do believe it to be part of the islamic state and does have a harmonious state of al-baghdadi and he has quoted him. and we know about the group operating in mali and he was part of aqam in algeria and formed his own group. >> and this is important, because some in america is benghazi benghazi. >> and in 2012 they accused of attacking the american consulate but it does have some connection with isis links in libya. >> very complicated. but we can get a picture of it. laith alkhouri thank you very much. >>> and coming up the outrage over oscar snubs and diverse thinking at the idea. i'll have more coming up. ♪ stouffer's mac and cheese with real aged cheddar now in a convenient cup. new stouffer's mac cups. made for you to love. latte or au lait? cozy or cool? exactly the way you want it ... until boom it's bedtime! your mattress is a battleground of thwarted desire. enter the sleep number bed. save $300 on the fi

the threat now i think comes from al qaeda affiliates and chief among them would be al qaeda on the arabian peninsula. i think we've had an impact but they still remain a viable threat. that's the thing that keeps me up most at night, this concern about the lone wolf who goes undetected. but we are doing, as i said the best we can, marshaling the resource we have. >> wellie we talked about the unity rally, this is a remarkable photograph on the top of "new york times," because of who was in the picture. hollande merkel but look at the book end. >> benjamin netanyahu, and mahmoud abbas. marching together arm in around. >> there have been a lot of symbols the west has had to digest the past 6 months 9 months, year from isis a lot of horrible images. that i think, of course it was

. >> i think it's a manifestation of al-qaeda, the same group as al-qaeda the division took place between al-qaeda as we know it and the so-called islamic state after. the islamic state of iraq sent some people to syria in order to participate in the war, an established branch of al-qaeda and he decided he is loyal to al-qaeda central and that the operation in syria should be syriancentric and should focus on syria and it shouldn't be under the islamic state in iraq which is an al-qaeda affiliate in iraq. >> created a division between bagdadi and later, the self appointive calif for the muslim world and zawaheri and jawani. a polit took place between al nusra and the islamic state of iraq. as retaliation , immediately issued a state called the islamic state of iraq and syria and later, an islamic state, which means that now zawahere and baghdadi and the whole baghdadi. >> that's why everything we hear that these two organizations are going to join efforts together is just assumptions. >> right. >> there is tee logical divisions now that will prevent al-qaeda and isis to join efforts toget

>> isis hates al qaeda. it has become very very very brutal in terms of what they say about each other. isis is not going to call themselves al qaeda. they would never call themselves isis. if this is correct, if this report is correct, who exactly are we dealing with? >> stephon charboneau was known to be that. >> he was named as a target. >> not to take away from that. there is no doubt they will be looking at that connection right now. it is important to understand the head of isis put a bounty of millions of dollars on the head of the cartoonist responsible for creating these cartoons. both al qaeda and isis have expressed an intent to go after these folks. if this is al qaeda or isis why on such a small scale. the same thing with isis. they want to show they are bigger and badder than al qaeda. this doesn't really do that. this seems to fit more in the pattern we are seeing across europe particularly in france of individuals that have been trained in syria by isis by al qaeda, by some other jihadist gro

the older brother went to yemen in 2011, trained with al qaeda, and sought to meet with the al qaeda leadership at that time. the leader or talent spotter for external operations was the cleric anwar alalaki. for the last 24 hours, fox news has been reporting on a series of tweets we have obtained that were sent shortly after the attack happened and seemed to tell of knowledge of the massacre. it came from a twitter handle that is associated with al qaeda in yemen and they took images from the massacre and superimposed over those images anwar alakai. we have thoroughly reported called in march 2013 for the assassination of the cartoonist and editor at the paper. that is a lot of data coming together leaning heavily towards the conclusion it was directed by al qaeda in yemen, at least in part. >> you have done an excellent job putting this all together. thank you. >>> chilling new warnings from another one of our closest allies and what that could mean for our safety here at home next. if you're running a business legalzoom has your back. over the last 10 years we've helped over one m

inside al qaeda for the cia inside al qaeda for the cia starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> for half a decade he said he moved back and forth between two worlds, and two identities. when one misplaced sentence could have cost him his life. >> you don't know what angle he's playing. >> traveling between atheism, english and arabic. >> one minute he's 007, on the other side he's now parted part of the militant circle. being an agent for western intelligence and a sworn member of al qaeda. storm said he was a double agent, so trusted by al qaeda, terror leaders, he even fixed up one with a blond european wife. a unique powerful weapon in the war on terror, who says he got results. >> i have been responsible of 30 kills. >> 30 terrorists killed. >> in a race against time, trying to bring down the most dangerous terrorists before they can launch their next attack. double agent inside al qaeda for the c.i.a. driving deep in yemen's lawless sou south. storm is at the wheel. on a spy mission for the cia. he's hoping this video may help lead his spy masters to the hideout of one

islamic state and al-qaeda are rivals. they are at war. and what we see from this statement is that they are dedicating this attack to amen al-zahili. and it's because he has been irrelevant that islamic state has declared himself caliphate. both want to claim responsibility for world events. >> a special edition of the satirical french weekly charlie hebdo has gone on sale. it's the first publication of the newspaper from last week's attacks. barnaby phillip reports. >> reporter: they were queueing before dawn. and celebrating, if they managed to get their hands on a copy. >> translator: i'm so happy, i woke up super happy and went everywhere and they were all sold out. >> reporter: we're not showing the cover in case some viewers are offended. it shows the mm -- prophet muhammad but on the inside it mocks. vincent is part of the online organization. >> the majority of the demand comes from the north american and european regions. we have asia as well. requests coming from india, and malaysia farther into australia, and maybe five or six

he fought with al-qaeda. he was later deported from yemen. french authorities said they knew who the brothers were and had them under surveillance at one point. the gunmen at the jewish superiority today has been identified as 32-year-old amedi coulibaly. he is thoughts to have links to one of the kouachi brothers. people ask how could this have happened if the men were under the police radar at one time. >> we have the two kouachi brothers and a third the police knew them. at least one time they were under surveillance, they had been on lists. what happened? >> yes that's one of the major questions that french allies will be walking backwards. more and more is coming out. we know the travel to yemen although i don't know if that's been confirmed. a lot of sources are saying that's true. coming out today are ties to al-qaeda facilitator in france, who has been in and out of prison. these sorts of things absolutely important to walk backwards and not just to know or blame what happened but to prevent how do we better watch people that should b

they discy mated al qaeda. this is a model we need to apply. >> we had a number of conversations about israeli palestinian relations. much of what just took place in paris seems driven by anti-semitism. there was no coincidence, i don't think it was a kosher market that was seized as a spot for hostages by one of these individuals. >> they want -- this is the same strategy. for them the police who was shot, mohammed and also one of the cartoonists who was a muslim as well for them they are as enemy as any jew in paris. the strategy is bigger than if you are muslim or not muslim or jew or not jew. al qaeda wants to put foot in europe. this is how they gate finances. the finances of al qaeda will rise with this attack because it is a success. they are trying to break the communities, the more communities are segregated ignored isolated listen last night i was at selma. for me looking at selma and what used to happen in the 60s we need to understand that some people will use this tragic event to be radicalized mor

al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. "inspire" magazine had the cartoonists on their most wanted list in their latest publication. >> if these guys were sent out to kill these journalists and these police officers by aqap al qaeda in the arabian peninsula in yemen, what does this mean? >> this is a very sophisticated, professional assassination or professional execution, if you will. we've seen a lot of lone wolf attacks and they call it the radicalized individuals. this one seems to be well thought out in advance, very professional and a well thought-out execution that took place. and so that signals to me it's not someone over the internet getting radicalized, but rather one of these foreign fighter types, wofrl,lf that we're so concerned about that have gone to join al qaeda and going to western europe as they did today in france or possibly getting into the united states of america. >> because it certainly looked like they had pretty sophisticated military training wearing these black uniforms if you will their faces

they think core al qaeda fighting in pakistan, syria or iraq where al qaeda has strongholds. he went so yemen, got trainings got direction. got some direction. this is possible to now look at this you can be a core member of core al qaeda and be living in europe. melissa: what does it mean if you change the definition? does it change the treatment? what is your point beyond that. >> absolutely. if these are only people inspired by al qaeda it is a purely a law enforcement problem. if these are core members of al qaeda it become as bigger military problem. i don't want to get into the domestic use of military force but europe is rife with young adherents of al qaeda and isis. gone into syria, gone into iraq and gotten radicalized trained and financed and going back to continental europe. we can expect more of these attacks and need to take them seriously. the need we need to take it seriously. we need to attack these people in safe havens in syria, afghanistan and pakistan. can't wait for them to get back to continental europe. melissa: christian, that is quite a road to go do

of al qaeda. you have one franchise in north africa, one in mali, one in the northern peninsula. you have al qaeda in iraq. of course, you have al qaeda sleeper cells that we have seen pop up in europe, australia, and god forgive in n canada and united states. the residual legacy ofbin laden still seems to be a will to attract these young arabs who want to be a member of al qaeda, aattracted to what is essentially this death cult of al qaeda. we have not a great deal of success to turn that off. host: we have this map of the middle east that we want to put back up. ambassador ginsberg, wwhat kind of military presence to u. s. have in __ does the u. s. have in this area? guest: if you go to iraq after the islamic state was able to take the city of mosul, the second largest city of iraq and cease territory on the turkish syrian border __ if you draw the line all the way to the outskirts of iraq, to baghdad, you have territory where at least 2000 to 3000 american advisers __ were not in combat roles

and al qaeda? >> at the level of organizational leadership the two are competing for power and influence in a global jihadist community. they are certainly rivals it doesn't necessarily trickle down to the foot shoulder perhaps that's what we are seeing going gown in paris. >> on the global pr level they are rivals and rivals for territory in syria, but you are saying on the operational level, on the ground people with these sympathies may be willing to work together. >> when you talk about individuals operating a continent away from their parent organizations or the organizations that they say they are acting on behalf of on the ground you want to collaborate why the group to give you a legal capacity. while your organizational leaders may be competing, you see a close cousin and someone you are willing to collaborate with in order to get things done. >> fellow travellers so to speak. we have seen the stunning rise of i.s.i.l. in iraq and syria taking territory and stealing the spotlight so to spe

a memior on how he was a double agent in al-qaeda and yemen and he led the cia to the al awlaki. morten, welcome. >> thank you. >> your story is insight. and as you looked at what has happen over the course of the last week what does it tell you what is coming next? >> well in locks very, very pessimistic for me. unfortunately we have seen the sleeping cells waking up. and there are more threats out there and al-qaeda and isis have signals and they have claimed it in yemen. and so the threats are not threats anymore. they are actually a reality and it happens and will continue. >> you talk about the fact that a cap and isis were combined in this particular attack. the man who did the attack in the supermarket claimed allegeance to isis and the other to a kwab. it is worst case scenario. in spite of their differences back home where they are in the muslim countries, and in spite of those differences be able to cooperate in foreign missions with unfortunately horrific attacks you know, yeah. >> you know you talk about your connection to al awlaki. and clearly the two brothers, koua

now, al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, the most dangerous al qaeda affiliate right now. the one of biggest concern to the united states because they have the technical ability to make bombs that potentially can get past airport screening. anybody that could potentially put a bomb on an aircraft obviously a top concern. what they're trying to figure out right now with this latest claim by al qaeda, that it directed the attack that it picked out the targets. you know is it really true? is it a claim of responsibility to get more attention in the world or is it true? does this really date all the way back to 2011 when kouachi went to yemen, got weapons training may have met directly with awlaki before he was killed and the whole plot was fermenting for a couple of years or did they go home stew about things have these jihadist tendencies and then look for a target to attack? all of this still to be really sorted out, but make no mistake, the claim this morning by al qaeda in yemen, a very serious concern to the u.s. carol. >> all right. barbara starr reporting live from the

al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, aqap al qaeda's yemen franchise. in their twitter account, a senior leader claims credit for the attack on charlie hebdo, carried out by the kouachi brothers. the video claims the order for these attacks came directly from the head of al qaeda. aman al zawahiri. at least one of the kouachi brothers spent time in yemen training with al qaeda, training with aqap in 2011. we have already known this. they seemed intent on making it known they were loyal to al qaeda in yemen. during the hostage crisis that ended with his death, the youngest brother telling a french tv station he was sent by yemen's al qaeda. quote, i went there and anwar al awlaki financed me. an american citizen in a leading aqap cleric just before he was killed in a u.s. drone attack four years ago now, in 2011. it's important to note in this al qaeda video released today, the group specifically claims credit for just the charlie hebdo attacks. they are not claiming credit for the hostage siege at the kosher grocery store that was carried out by couliba

qaeda, 17% say more than al qaeda. so, i think this reinforces this in other issue about what is it a other issue about what is it that is driving the propensity you that is driving the propensity to want to intervene is they're clearly combining in an isis and al qaeda. a large number of the public is ina large number of the public is combining isis and al qaeda you life and in their mind. i want to switch to a few questions about syria and isis. one question is, which is the you will you and you and will which is the close toast your view: if we spend enough resources to drain -- the syrian opposition it could stand up to isis and the assad regime, the syrian opposition is too weak and divided. even if we give it significantly more resources it cannot stand up to isis in the regime of assad. so which one is close toast your view, and here's what we see. clearly two-thirds say the syrian opposition cannot stand up to isis no matter how much support we give it. and that is kind of a starting point for their attitudes o

>> al qaeda central is what the people in pakistan and afghanistan are called in al qaeda. yes, there's not much there that can do this overseas attack. they have moved people. transferred people to yemen. transferred people to iraq and syria. and this is still al qaeda. in answer to your question i suspect this was directed from yemen. and that there was a decision to do this. and that they were trained in yemen and sent back. to do this. and so the question for france now is do they retaliate against al qaeda in yemen? do we see french bombers in yemen, as they had been doing in syria and iraq? >> what is your answer? what would you expect? >> i would think they would. >> we'll be waiting to watch that as well. i want to go back to terry moran in paris right now. we know that all three hostage takers are dead. we have heard from the mayor of dammartin-en-goele that the hostage there is freed. tell us about the hostages in paris. >> reporter: well george the french ambassador to the united states, a high-ranking official tweeted out that the terrorist here amedy coulibaly

proper, al-qaeda in yemen, hamza who was the point person for al-qaeda in britain if that report is correct but we know independently that same brother had ties to al-qaeda in iraq. not isis, but al-qaeda in iraq under abu knew samal zarqawi. shepard: this appeared to be a well-planned and coordinated attack, and today when this began two hours before the market would have closed for observance of a jewish holiday the timing is impeccable and somewhat frightening. >> reporter: the massacre itself at the magazine spoke to preparation, advance reconnaissance and familiarity with the weapons. that's sort of been well discussed in the last 48 hours. but what we've seen now unfold in paris since then is that it was not just a small cell the two individuals, the brothers but there were also others. remember, we have had nearly a dozen arrests in paris and we haven't had a public readout from the french authorities as to what their connections may be to the group. but i would emphasize that almost everything connected to this massacre has had almost a sense of orchestration. we reported he

>> this man tries to mend fences between al qaeda and islamic state. this is a possible interpretation, but maybe it is just a matter of coincidence. i believe islamic state and al qaeda are singly trying to profit from the situation. they know that many radical muslims like the idea of the attack that happened in paris and they will continue to attack european cities. that's the idea behind it. >> thank you for coming in and giving us some analysis of the story. appreciate it. let's talk about reaction. the muslim world responded fairly cautiously to the latest edition of "charlie hebdo" and its cover showing the prophet mohammed. political and religious leaders called the cartoons "a provocation" and advised muslims to just ignore them. it was pretty hard in majority-muslim countries to even find the images. >> sanctities need to be respected -- those were the words of iran's foreign minister criticizing the latest "charlie hebdo" cartoons following last week's deadly islamist attack on the satirical journal. he was speaking at the sidelines of nucle

how al qaeda works, al qaeda in the arabian peninsula works is when they're winning on the ground in yemen they're not so focused on the war against the west. but when they've had setbacks in the war in yemen or when they feel like they need to show that they're still in the game from a global perspective they will reach out of to global targets first in yemen then saudi arabia then elsewhere to the extent they can. that doesn't necessarily mean they were directly involved in this instance but they have been training people from the west and then sending them back to western countries at least in the last few years. >> right. and that leads us to our next question, what do you make of this video the significance of it is this claim credible and what message might that really be sending? >> yeah, so we know that one of these brothers in paris traveled to yemen circa 2011-2012 we know that he allegedly received training in an al qaeda training carchl eastcamp in sanaa in the east of yemen, and we don't know if that connection of this individual in aqap rose to the level of direction. a