rg ating at the fbi. i just got to get them interested in it. i could talk all day about this but i'll try to be very short. one of my challenges is -- the average age of entry for an fbi agent is 29 because we're going to give these folks great power. we want adults who have developed judgment through experience and so i don't know what your plans are after graduation but my challenge is if you're as good as you probably are, because you go to school here, coca-cola is going to be after you, microsoft is going to be after you, apple is going to be after you, exxon-mobil is going to be after you and they're going to throw all kinds of dough at you. then when you're 29 you'll be thinking, not so much. go work for the government. so i'm trying to figure out how do i get people in earlier. so i put tremendous amount of effort in my 18 months into hiring right out of college, because if i can get you right out of georgetown? you will find out how amazing it is to do good for a living in a different role, in a

they also talked about if he couldn't get anything done, he would go to the fbi and kill fbi agents in washington. so that is what these guys were planning if they couldn't get all the way to syria. >> i want to bring in bobby ghosh, our cnn global affairs analyst. one of the things that struck me as i've been reading through it is that an allegation here -- this is directly from the press release of the department of justice -- is that one of these defendants allegedly provided financial assistance and encouragement and operated a domestic network of individuals, plural, willing to support isil's cause. we have three arrests. but two other people doesn't necessarily a network make. does that suggest they know, they know plenty well there are plenty of others? >> yes, you take that in conjunction with what the fbi director said. it suggests that, yes, they are very aware of a network, perhaps multiple networks across the country. and we shouldn't be so surprised. we've seen similar things take place in europe where the police or the security services in some countries, far more intrusi

the fbi now has three men in custody, three men the fbi says were planning to fly out of the united states to turkey and then cross into syria and join forces with isis. our justice reporter evan perez, is joining us from new york. we're getting new details, including allegations that one of them may actually have wanted to kill the president of the united states and another may have plans to plant some sort of bomb on coney island in brooklyn. what else do we know? >> reporter: that's right. one of these suspects is 24 years old. the allegation from the fbi -- they've sent out a few tweets in the last hour making some of these allegations against this one suspect who's now under arrest. that if he could not travel if he could get carry out his plan to join isis in syria, that perhaps the plan would be to carry out on attack here on u.s. soil either killing the united states -- the president of the united states perhaps plant a bomb on coney island or also assassinate police officers or fbi agents. he was determined to carry out something on behalf of isis whether here or on syrian soil. w

i did invite david johnson of the fbi of the fbi to be present as i have the last few years and he was not able to respond by message so i do not anticipate him being here. >> okay thank you chief. >> okay the format used to develop this report was based upon previous input and request for information from members of the law caucus and resulted in the requests and responses. the requests will be read in numerical order followed by the response. >> number 1. related to the number of times that undercover officers are infill traitors, no member of the sfpd the san francisco police department staffing consisted of 2 full-time employees. one employee departed in july of 2014 and a member is currently being vetted to fill that full-time position a full-time employee works approximately 2080 hours per calendar year. >> 3, the request for a complete description of violations and possible violations of the ordinance. the fbi conducted quarterly reviews of cases which the defendant has reviewed as well. there were no violations or possible violations of the ordinances in the year 2014 and the e

the fbi has gotten very good at it. but what worries them though is the lone wolf who doesn't go up on the internet doesn't go on social heedmedia and simply picks up a gun because there are so many soft targets in this country. any one of them would fit the call of the islamic state. how do you catch those people? it's nearly impossible. >> i want to read you a statement from the fbi assistant director in charge. it said the defendants looked to join the eye -- another form of isis by flying to sturk u. turkey in a vain attempt to evade detection and several of the defendants planned to commit attacks here in america if they could not travel including killing fbi agents. they got stopped, bob. what mistakes did they make? >> well i think the mistakes is they didn't understand how to travel without coming to the attention of the fbi. the fbi is monitoring the main databases for airline reservations apollo and saber and a couple other ones. they can see reservations made to turkey and you combine that with social media,

what does the fbi do? >> well they try to find out if there's anybody that knows that person that will talk to them try and identify the social media accounts the internet accounts phone accounts and start tracking them that way. and then who are they communicating with are they making calls or e-mails to a known jihadi website either in the u.s. or overseas and expand from there. then the advantage is that when a lone wolf decides he needs a couple of partners that's usually the best opportunity for intervention to get somebody in under cover that can get close to the individual and that will enable them to get enough probable cause for wiretaps and to really track them. >> i want to go to deborah feyerick. she is outside that federal courthouse in brooklyn. so deb, tell us what happened inside. >> reporter: well wolf it was a very ordinary arraignment except for the fact that these men were going to syria allegedly to fight with isis. they had no intention of coming back. if they failed to get to syria,

is clear on that i appreciate the chief reaching out to the fbi. my sense from your presentation is the scope of information you shared with us is actually beyond what was required by the ordinance but the department is looking at the questions that the community still has; is that accurate? >> that's accurate. >> i'm grateful for that i think it's really important that's there's transparency. there's a lot of detail there but what's what's underneath it is getting questions answered that can be and making sure we're conducting ourselves as we say we are thank you for that. there might be public comment at the end of this item after the chief's report. >> okay thank you. >> finally the presentation of the 4th quarter 2014 fire arm discharge review board findings and shooting investigative summary. >> good evening sergeant. >> good evening chief. >> has it been a quarter since we saw you last? >> actually that's a that's a great question. >> commissioners director and chief. i'm here to present the quarterly report and officer involved shootings. th

the fbi sends in a jet armed with a sophisticated long-distance camera. these images exclusively obtained by abc news seen today for the first time. you can see thick pristine forest. then as the tape rolls a dramatic moment. there at the lake there are two people. look again. it's hannah and dimaggio. dimaggio takes off his shirt and walks along the lake at one point bathing. about 100 yards away there's a campsite. a fire has been made. possibly for cooking. dimaggio appears unaware that he's being watched, that he's been made. hannah seems oblivious too. then something unexpected happens. all of a sudden she starts waving. dimaggio never notices. he's over to the right tending to a fire. but look. hannah keeps on waving. is she signaling the aircraft? these photographs of the campsite seen by the public for the first time give a hint of what the fbi believes is a dicey situation. dimaggio has a rifle, a handgun, a machete. the potential for a confrontation is high. the fbi tries to use the element of surprise. it's time for the hostage rescue team to a

i did invite david johnson of the fbi of the fbi to be present as i have the last few years and he was not able to respond by message so i do not anticipate him being here. >> okay thank you chief. >> okay the format used to develop this report was based upon previous input and request for information from members of the law caucus and resulted in the requests and responses. the requests will be read in numerical order followed by the response. >> number 1. related to the number of times that undercover officers are infill traitors, no member of the sfpd the san francisco police department staffing consisted of 2 full-time employees. one employee departed in july of 2014 and a member is currently being vetted to fill that full-time position a full-time employee works approximately 2080 hours per calendar year. >> 3, the request for a complete description of violations and possible violations of the ordinance. the fbi conducted quarterly reviews cases which the defendant has reviewed as well. there were no violations or possible violations of the ordinances in the year 2014 and the e-ma

rg ating at the fbi. i just got to get them interested in it. i could talk all day about this but i'll try to be very short. one of my challenges is -- the average age of entry for an fbi agent is 29 because we're going to give these folks great power. we want adults who have developed judgment through experience and so i don't know what your plans are after graduation but my challenge is, if you're as good as you probably are, because you go to school here, coca-cola is going to be after you microsoft is going to be after you, apple is going to be after you, exxon-mobil is going to be after you and they're going to throw all kinds of dough at you. then when you're 29 you'll be thinking, not so much. go work for the government. so i'm trying to figure out how do i get people in earlier. so i put tremendous amount of effort in my 18 months into hiring right out of college, because if i can get you right out of georgetown? you will find out how amazing it is to do good for a living in a different role, in a

that's what the fbi was very concerned about and they're -- that's what the fbi director was talking to this morning. he was speaking to a group of attorneys general from around the country. because the fbi needs all of these law enforcement people back in the states to be their eyes and ears. they sent out an intelligence bulletin just in the last hour or so because of this case. i'll read you a short little bit of what they told law enforcement officials around the country, which is that these individuals highlight the continued interest of u.s.-based violent extremists to support designated terrorist organizations, isil in this case. urges vigilance and cooperation with local businesses and law enforcement partners. frankly, the -- as we said you know, we've discussed a lot about the flow of fighters from european countries, which is a much bigger number. this is a reminder that this is as much a problem in this country as well. >> we have 60 coalitions fighting in syria and iraq. it seems like isis tentacles continue to spread. now we have the arrests here in new york. how is isi

three men from brooklyn apprehended by the fbi. court documents say two of them were trying to join isis. the third was trying to help them do so. if those two could not make their way to syria, they intended to kill police and fbi agents and even aspire to assassinate the president. let's go to cnn counter terrorism analyst phil mudd former cia counter terrorism official. also with us robert mcfadden, former special agent in charge for the naval criminal investigative service. let me start with you. how serious a threat do you think these guys were? >> from what we know right now, very serious. well done by the fbi, jttf and all their partners. it sounded like they were all over these three and their cell. you have human sources or confidential informants electronic means, tapping into the internet so very well done. but you know jake the thing that happens right now, while the high fives are going on about taking this cell down the intelligence part of it is going on full speed ahead. that's paramount, we talked about this in the

the fbi from a confidential informant. the fbi says they cannot rely on the credibility of. we have the small snippets. we don't know the background. we don't know the context or how the informant manipulated my client. he has not had to enter a plea yet. all that is happened is he has been presented on the complaint and no need for him to make any statement. >> the fbi says home-grown violent extremism is a problem with active investigations in all 50 states. fbi director james comey tells us state attorney generals says isis has developed a message and web-savvy packaging to reach what he called troubled souls. >> a siren song through the slick propaganda through social media. troubled soul come to the caliphate. you will live a life of glory. these are the apocalyptic end times. you will find a meaning here fighting for the caliphate. if you cannot come kill somebody where you are. >> this morning, committees in the house and senate will hear testimony on the isis terror threat. >>> just in to cnn from northeastern syri

that's what the fbi says. fbi agents arrested one of the men, a 19-year-old from kazakhstan. arrested him at kennedy airport preparing to board a plane to turkey. his 24-year-old friend from uzbekistan was to join him later. a 30-year-old was financing the operation. we have deborah feyerick with the latest. >> reporter: john and christine, two of the three men were in federal court. the hearing was delayed for a couple of hours because one wanted a translator to understand the charges and documents that were filed against him. the 19-year-old was picked up as he was on the jetway ready to board that plane to turkey. that's when he was arrested. the third man, the money man, he was at a hearing in florida. he owns a series of kiosks in philadelphia savannah and virginia beach. he sells kitchen wares and fixes mobile phones. all three facing charges of providing support to terrorists. the two in the court here they wanted to get to syria to join the terror group. both men did have back-up plans. the 19-year-old had a plan because his mom confiscated his passport fearing he wou

i know you asked the fbi to join these conversations in the past. we really hope they will be able to come in the future if possible. i think it's important for the fbi to have an understanding of how the community experiences this and see what this process looks like so if we could encourage them to come in the future that would be much appreciated. >> i'll continue to extend the invitation. >> and the final item i appreciate the effort to answer some of our questions but i continue to be confused in regards to point 10. in particular like last year it says that the primary role of the sfpd officers assigned to the jttf f i'm wondering how do you guys define information sharing and what does that information look like? is it just sars or something else? i think we might have a difference of opinion as to what information sharing might mean. >> in public comment it's not a question and answer but your questions are noted. >> okay no problem. those are the remaining questions i have. after we get the updated report we might have updated items but i w

so powerful words from the fbi director. in addition, tied into this whole fight over funding for dhs, we saw jeh johnson who has been everywhere this week starting on sunday doing the sunday talk shows, he did a press conference with two former homeland security directors, including tom ridge, who was the very first homeland security director, he happens to agree with the republicans on the fight and he thinks that the president has overstepped his constitutional bounds on immigration but he said you don't use this and you don't use safety and security and the backs of hard-working americans who work for dhs to make your point. and i think it was particularly striking that he said that again, just like we heard from james comey today, how the threat has evolved, the threat is greater, he believes now than it was on september 12th 2011 -- i'm sorry, 2001. so this is the point of conversation apart from what happened in brooklyn from -- in new york with arrests that have been made. but you are the arrests that have been made

the fbi comes to your house, they interview you with the secret service. you threaten to kill the president or something close to it. at that point -- this is in august this is six months ago. you don't stop doing what you're doing? no you continue to do it and it comes to the point that one of them is actually getting on a plane on the way to turkey. >> right, but in between that time the fbi decides to use a paid informant to communicate with these guys right? >> yes. >> the use of paid informants i know is controversial in some circles. i'm just curious, how much are paid informants paid? >> it depends on the case depends on what happens. basically they are paid based on convictions. >> so the paid informant's goal is to get an conviction. >> absolutely. >> to draw these people into criminal activity. >> the other thing is keep in mind in this case i don't think they were drawing them in. they were already talking about it. and there is a concern with paid informants in the criminal justice world, but in this case based on what i've read and what i've h

the fbi sends in a jet with a sophisticated long-distance camera. these images exclusively obtained by abc news seen today for the first time. you can see thick pristine forest. then as the tape rolls a dramatic moment. there at the lake there are two people. look again. it's hannah and dimaggio. dimaggio takes off his shirt and walks along the lake at one point bathing. about 100 yards away there's a campsite. a fire has been made. possibly for cooking. dimaggio appears unaware that he's being watched, that he's been made. hannah seems oblivious too. then something unexpected happens. all of a sudden she starts waving. dimaggio never notices. he's over to the right tending to a fire. but look. hannah keeps on waving. is she signaling the aircraft? these photographs of the campsite seen by the public for the first time give a hint of what the fbi believes is a dicey situation. dimaggio has a rifle, a handgun, a machete. the potential for a confrontation is high. the fbi tries to use the element of surprise. it's time for the hostage rescue team to a

rg ating at the fbi. i just got to get them interested in it. i could talk all day about this but i'll try to be very short. one of my challenges is -- the average age of entry for an fbi agent is 29 because we're going to give these folks great power. we want adults who have developed judgment through experience and so i don't know what your plans are after graduation but my challenge is if you're as good as you probably are, because you go to school here, coca-cola is going to be after you, microsoft is going to be after you, apple is going to be after you, exxon-mobil is going to be after you and they're going to throw all kinds of dough at you. then when you're 29 you'll be thinking, not so much. go work for the government. so i'm trying to figure out how do i get people in earlier. so i put tremendous amount of effort in my 18 months into hiring right out of college, because if i can get you right out of georgetown? you will find out how amazing it is to do good for a living in a different role, in a

the danger however is not just in the communities last month the fbi set free a man they claimed was an eco terrorists. the man was sentenced to a 20-year prison term but released because it was discovered that the government failed to -- the the fbi's entrapment programs are bending the law and morality and this matters because our sfpd officers are working with these agents. we ask that sfpd encourage their colleagues at the fbi to stop harassment of our community members our clients live and work in the bay area they should be able to trust local law enforcement to protect them and many dozens of our community members in the 79 organizations work tirelessly to pass the safe san francisco civil rights ordinance and we appreciate your willingness to engage with us and answer our questions in regards to the report thank you very much. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good evening my name is brice hammock i'm the civil rights coordinator i want to echo the statements made by my colleagues regarding the program itself and i want to thank you all for being open to this topic and providing

then we will go to the fbi headquarters kill the fbi people. the two want to be jihadis were here at this court. they said they understood the charges against them. they are going to be detained until trial. they are scheduled to be back on march 11th. it was interesting when they walked in. they were 5'2" dark hair. both of them wearing hoodies. the charges against them are very serious. they were able to get the other two and seal the case with the help of a confidential informant. >> thank you very much. now jason carol is outside the apartment building where two of the suspects live. you spoke with the building superintendent puptonight. what did he tell you about these men? >> reporter: he's pretty much in shock. when i spoke to him earlier this afternoon he said nothing seemed out of ordinary about these two young men. he said both of them paid their rent on time. maybe lived here for two, three years. he said the younger one told him not too long ago he planned to take a vacation very soon. he said nothing seemed out of ordinary. you can

i'm wondering what your perspective being former fbi, what can the fbi do in this to aid the danish authorities? >> first of all, poppy, the fbi has a longstanding close relationship with the danish national police and their intelligence service p.e.t. the fbi office in copenhagen was opened in 1999 and they've been involved in some sensitive investigations in the past involving this very thing, threats on the danish newspaper and cartoonists going back to 2005 and the plots that existed to attack them working with the swedish police on the plots to murder lars vilks in his home and both of those plots were from america. david headley from chicago later was arrested by the fbi. he helped coordinate the mumbai attack in november of 2008 and prior to going to mumbai he was working on the attack planned for al qaeda to attack the newspaper and its employees in copenhagen. he had traveled there. he had surveilled and gone into their lobby and drew sketches of it and the layout and found out as much information as he could. when he returned to chicago he was communicating with his handlers who said

fbi agents visited him at his house last august and he repeated that claim. so for the next several months it's quite obvious that the fbi was keeping a very close eye on him and a close friend of his, recording their conversations, sending a confidential informant to talk with them, someone they did not know who was working for the fbi, and watching as these two men hatched a plot to go to syria through turkey. they both bought plane tickets. one of them was arrested at jfk today. the other was to travel in late march. a third man has been arrested, also from brooklyn, accused of helping them giving them money and helping them plot all this. now, as for their talk about staging attacks here that's all that it is. they said that if they couldn't get to syria, they would do all sorts of things here. one of them said he was willing to kill the president if ordered to do so by isis. another said he would get an assault rifle and shoot police or fbi agents. they talked about putting a bomb at coney island but they never did anything. that is all talk. but the fbi

it's important to realize that those reports when filed by local police can result in the fbi interviewing an individual in the community so the reports i quoted were not filed by sfpd but that's because the public doesn't know the types of reports the department has filed . that is despite the fact that other centers in california have disclosed those reports and the la police department discloses more information in its annual audit and in the spirit of the ordinance sfpd can and should do more to explain the sar activities to the public. thank you. >> thank you next speaker. >> good evening. my name is -- i'm the community advocate of the asian law caucus. thank you for the opportunity to speak with you today and for your continuous engagement with us on this issue. since the passage of the ordinance our community partners continue to receive a steady stream of complaints. community members continue to be subjected to intensive interviews by fbi agents and several of our clients have found that they get grilled by border agents about their belief systems only to have that information sh

tom, what kichtd of assistance will the fbi be offering? the fbi office was established in copenhagen in 1999 and has a stamp of a number of aides, analysts and -- when a guy named david headily from chicago traveled to copenhagen actually went into the lobby of these newspapers and was laying out the plans for an attack is that al qaeda diverted him to advice in the mumbai attack first. then when he was in the process of going back to copening hagen, he was arrest their intent was to go to stock holmes, break down lars home and cut his throat in the middle of the night, so they could get the bounty that was on his head and still is on hid head so the fbi and the other police authority thes interpoll, the fbi, many people have been working on these cases for years, as the plots go on and on and on. >> if it turns owl this alleged shooter really had no contact with the network, and was just according to some daneish authorities. >> well that's true and the fewer people that he was in contact with intending to do this attack he decided, as a

who says that the fbi is investigating homegrown radicals in the united states. according to the fbi, the three arrested today were young and had ambitious plans to kill the president, and hijack a plane to syria, and take out other target targets. and now, let's go to our panelist ahmed, how is isis able to the attract such young men? >>le with, we have seen a trend and in recent months that they are able to attract people younger, and younger. this is speaking about not about religion or ideology. it is about religion and how it is used, but it is about driving factors about how it is used to compel someone to be radicalized which is being alienated and a perceived anger and justice and moral outrage, and using the internet in the recent months and a lot of konconversation behind the sophistication if you will with isis and other terrorist groups to be effective in that regard. >> and talk about some of the suspects real quick, and at least one of the suspects which is real word ss. and this says, greetings, we wanted to pledge of allegiance and commit ourselve