he took over in ferguson in 2010. he was commander of the county drug task force and served at swat team supervisor. he was an undercover detector and hostage negotiator and has a degree in criminal justice markment. st. louis county prosecutor bob mcculloch talked about that case. >> i avoided talking to a lot of the media not because i'm concerned about the media but a big part was waiting for the justice department to get around to making their determination. the d.o.j. report sides with you that he never said has phrase hands up, don't shoot. do you feel vindicated? >> well, i never felt incriminated, so there was no reason to feel vindicated. we knew the department of justice had exactly what we had. other a witness who popped up apparently in mid february, there's nothing in their report that wasn't in their hands on november 24, so when they came out with the finding that they made it, it certainly didn't come as a surprise. >> it would have been helpful to have it a lot earlier than 101 days after the grand ju

yesterday, ferguson city manager john shaw ferguson police chief tom jackson and ferguson city attorney stephanie car and myself met with officials in st. louis to receive the final report of their investigation into the policies and practices of the city of ferguson police department. the 100-page document outlined five specific areas of concern in which the ferguson police department engaged in a pattern or practice of unlawful conduct that violates the united states constitution and federal law. the department of justice began their investigation of the ferguson police department on september 4, 2014. during the past six months city officials have cooperated with the department of justice to supply tens of thousands of documents which included thousands of e-mails from 75 employees of the city of ferguson and other electronic materials from the ferguson police department. the city also arranged ride alongs for department of justice vestinvestigateors to observe police officers while on duty. during the meeting tuesday, officials informed ferguson that a review of city e maims s-mails

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i'm jake tapper live from ferguson missouri. i hand it over to wolf blitzer in "the situation room." >>> happening now, manhunt. police frantically searching for the shooter who wounded two police officers overnight in ferguson. was the long range ambush carried out by a pro? >>> losing the street as tensions rise in ferguson will fresh protests erupt tonight? can police still control the situation? >>> plus drunk service? two senior secret service agents suspected of being intoxicated crash into a white house barrier. it's the latest in a series of scandals. can the secret service still manage to protect the president and

shot during protests in ferguson missouri. the shootings marked a violent end to a peaceful protest that erupted overnight. the protests after the ferguson police chief tom jackson announced his resignation. jackson is the recent of the officials to step down after the scathing report by the justice department. you have two police officers conscious, but shot in the hospital. an investigation underway to find and apprehend the shoot errorer er or shooters in ferguson. >>> on wednesday, jurors were shown the pressure cooker bomb that was used in the boston marathon bombings. the video and witness placing the department at the scene. let's get more from cnn's deborah feyerick. >> reporter: john 911 calls saying officer down. officer down. all units. it was m.i.t. police officer sean collier. he was executed on the m.i.t. campus. prosecutors showed video of two men they identify and tamerlan and dzhokhar tsarnaev walking to the cruiser and leaning in. you can see the brake lights on the car getting bright. the two brothers for a

so in ferguson like in fergusons all over the united states we all have to get it. and i did see last night, i'm grateful for the response of the officers and i am grateful that they allowed the protesters to exercise their rights without aggressiveness. >> so do you feel that this is a turning point for ferguson? >> no it's too early for ferguson to be turning. we just received verification or affirmation from the doj reports of things that the community has been saying for a long time. i believe that a turning point is coming. i believe that permanent change systemic change is coming but to say that last night was a turning point is premature. >> do you think the ferguson police department should be dissolved? >> i think that the ferguson police department should be dismantled as it is. whether or not something is built in its place that governs and protects and serves the people of ferguson that remains to be seen. but we are fighting against systems, we are not fighting against people. and to remove a person from the system does not change the system. there has

ferguson fallout. the mayor hanging on as the police chief becomes the latest to step down in the wake of the michael brown shooting and a damning justice department report. we are awaiting a live news conference from ferguson. ferguson without many of its top leaders after a wave of resignations. how does the community move forward? >>> sooner apology. a student expelled from the university of oklahoma says he is sorry. new information is revealed about that racist chant that was all caught on camera. how long has it been part of the culture? we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you are in "the situation room." >>> we are following breaking news. the resignation of the ferguson missouri police chief. stepping down after being singled out in a justice department report on the city's police tactics. it was prompted by the death of michael brown, an unarmed black teenager shot by the white police officer, darren wilson. we are standing by for a news

you mentioned that you did not go to ferguson but you do not need to go to ferguson to understand what is going on. you have seen this across the country in your career, right? >> it is business as usual. you can change the location but the dye that will micks are -- the dynamics are the same. if you allow any crowd to gain the mob courage and then allow -- they allow the bad apples to seep in, the agitators the gang members, the people that really want to maybe get even with the police or get even with the store owner or any other reason just to steal loot or destroy property, if you allow that to actually form and fester that is when you have problems. that's what they have allowed in this, and it is not the police. they are being directed to not take any action. you need to take action and you need to stop that before it gets to that ignition point and that's the problem time and time again with these demonstrations. i mean, you are gonna have to do something or it just gets worse. >> we really appreciate you being here with us on this busy overnight what is happening there in fergu

city of ferguson. yesterday, police chief and ferguson district attorney an myself received the final report of the investigation into the policies and practices of the city of ferguson police department. the 100 page document outlined five specific areas of concern in which the ferguson police department engaged in a pattern or practice of unlawful conduct that violates the united states constitution and federal law. the department of justice began their investigation of the ferguson police department on september 4, 2014. during the past six months city officials have cooperated with the department of justice to supply tens of thousands of documents which included thousands of e-mails from 75 employees of the city of ferguson and other electronic materials from the ferguson police department. the city also arranged ride alongs for department of justice investigators to observe ferguson police officers while on duty. during the meeting on tuesday the department of justice officials informed the city o

>> the ferguson police department many people in the community want the ferguson police department dismantled. they want them gone. is it fair to say there is no working with them? >> that's not true. depends on who you're talking to. i represent people who live in ferguson. many do not want their police department dismantled. they would like to see reform. they would like to see a culture change. they feel that maybe st. louis county is not, you know far better than say ferguson police. so they would feel more comfortable just trying to work with their local police department. >> the police chief stepped down. he resigned and i assume that wasn't completely his choice. is that enough for the community? community members that you're talking with? >> there are some people that are still calling for a few more resignations. but this is ultimately really up to the people who live in ferguson. if they would like to recall other elected officials or if they would like to see more resignations they really need to put pressure on to the board and to the council to let people know that's what they wa

let's begin with ferguson right now. the latest information, our national correspondent jason carroll is on the scene for us. jason? >> reporter: well, one of the people brought in for questioning lived in the house behind me. her grandmother simply cannot understand why her granddaughter is being questioned. she says her granddaughter had nothing to do with the shooting. early this morning, a s.w.a.t. team swarms this home in ferguson as part of their search for suspects after two police officers were shot outside the ferguson police department. st. louis county police questioned two young men and a 23-year-old woman taken from the home. the woman's grandmother, iris turner tells me her granddaughter called overnight to say she was at the protest and heard the shots. >> it's just crazy. it's so crazy, these kids up there protesting and doing this. they need to be at home. that's where they need to be. >> reporter: turner says police followed her granddaughter from the protest last night, but she does not know why police

. >> flap point ferguson missouri missouri. a town ruled by a mostly white city council but not for long. for the first time the people of ferguson has a chance with four blacks on the election for city council. >>> i'm ali velshi and this is "real money." heads keep rolling in ferguson missouri. the police chief thomas jackson is stepping down. john shaw resigned, joining the local judge and court clerk who have already done so. they were slammed in a report last week that accused the city of fostering racism. it says the city police and local court colluded in targeting ferguson's black residents with petty fines arrests and incarcerations. why? to boost the city's finances. meanwhile, ferguson's mayor john knowles says he plans to stay put. cleared officer darren wilson saying he shot michael brown in self defense. but ferguson's profit driven law enforcement system poisoned relations with the community. now resignations or not, the only way for things to change in ferguson is if the community exercises its civic duty and vo

it has been another eventful day here in ferguson missouri. and it all started this morning when two police officers were shot. [ gunfire ] [ censor bleep ] >> reporter: the shooting happened just outside ferguson's police department during a protest. now this area has been the scene of many protests since last summer when michael brown was shot. a massive manhunt is still going on tonight. a ferguson home was searched early this morning, again, people were taken in for questioning, but no one at this point has been arrested. earlier today, st. louis police chief described the officers' injuries. >> the webster groves officer was shot right here at the high point of the cheek and the bullet lodges right behind his ear. and that bullet is still with him. he's going to have to have further evaluation to figure out what they are going to do with that wound. the st. louis county officer was struck right here on the shoulder, and the bullet came out the middle of his right back between the scapula and the spine. >> reporter: and again, tonight a co

and in the ferguson police department. they are as follows. the ferguson police department is in the process of hiring three new officers. we hope to have an update on these positions and the racial makeup of these new hires sometime in the next week. the ferguson police department has hired one correction officer since august 9th 2014. one african-american female candidate was hired for that position out of a pool of approximately 91 applicants. the ferguson police department has also hired two assistant court clerks since august 9th 2014. both positions were filled by african-american females from a pool of 64 applicants. all ferguson police department officers have completed mandatory diversity training as of december 31st 2014. the ferguson police department has also begun an explorer program in the school district beginning in january 2015. the goal of this program is for officers to engage youth and the law enforcement profession as well as potentially recruit them for police officer positions in the future. i've als

he said ferguson has plenty of revenue without aggressive policing and faping. >> ferguson is a large municipality. i'd say they are top 25. it has guaranteed revenue of millions of dollars, not because of fines and such. >> curtis says he pushes for amnesty of anyone stopped without cause. every time a resident doesn't appear in court, $100 was added to the tab, an arrest weren't and suspension of licence. there were 9,000 arrest warrants issued, applying to 33,000 different offenses. and in ferguson warrants are issued without the opportunity for res bents to explain if the early. >> it would open a file, and ticket. what should have been 100 pucks, now this person will owe close to 1,000. >> this is a municipal judge, 10 minutes from ferguson. he is running for city council in ferguson, and says there are ways to alleviate the fines. >> in our court, as a broad amnesty programme is we started dismissing all of them. african-american leadership in missouri agrees. police shot spend their time on larger issues. >> i would think the police department would feel their work is better us

keeps the ferguson police department chtand the city of ferguson has been committed to that as well. that was kind of his thought process and when he decided to make an exit. >> can you talk about wanting to keep the police department? have you all assessed given what the justice department wants from you all, will the city be able to fulfill those commitments and keep its department? >> those are recommendations from the justice department. sure. so the city of ferguson again, is looking at all of those recommendations. we are engaging we have already mentioned that we're engaging consultants to tell us what that price tag might be and what are those -- tell us realistically what we need to be working on. and we'll keep that in mind as we make decisions going forward. >> and will you be able to keep the ferguson police department? >> we're already engaged several experts on these issues. rough estimates and things going forward, i would say that we believe that it's something that we can do. so we're committed to making that happen. >> the press conference in ferguson continues. chr

the justice department's report on policing in ferguson missouri the investigation launched in the ugly wake of the police shooting that left michael brown dead. the conclusion a pattern and practice of racial bias against african-americans by the nearly all white ferguson police department. targeting blacks disproportionately according to one official familiar with the report for traffic stops, use of force, and jail sentences. the report revealed outright racist e-mails within the department. we'll have a bunch more on this shortly including reaction from our own sunny hostin and benjamin. let's begin with the nuclear reaction to benjamin netanyahu's speech. the israeli prime minister with talks at a turning point. word against isis now at a full swing. israeli elections around the corner. critics and supporters. we're going to hear from all sides tonight. first though. highlights from the prime minister's speech. >> when it comes to iran and isis the enemy of your enemy is your enemy. [ applause ] the difference is that isis is armed with butcher knives captured weapon and youtube. i

. >> flap point ferguson missouri missouri. a town ruled by a mostly white city council but not for long. for the first time the people of ferguson has a chance with four blacks on the election for city council. >>> i'm ali velshi and this is "real money." heads keep rolling in ferguson, missouri. the police chief thomas jackson is stepping down. john shaw resigned, joining the local judge and court clerk who have already done so. they were slammed in a report last week that accused the city of fostering racism. it says the city police and local court colluded in targeting ferguson's black residents with petty fines arrests and incarcerations. why? to boost the city's finances. meanwhile, ferguson's mayor john knowles says he plans to stay put. cleared officer darren wilson saying he shot michael brown in self defense. but ferguson's profit driven law enforcement system poisoned relations with the community. now resignations or not the only way for things to change in ferguson is if the community exercises its civic duty and vo

and so it changed when ferguson p.d. responded and called for backup and they came out in riot gear tonight. and it just goes to show that even though the chief is no longer going to be in his position the culture in ferguson still exists. these are the same officers who have kept their jobs, who have been dealing with protesters for almost seven months now. so there is a natural tension that comes out of that. that's just the protest every time so that's what the experience was today. >> clearly the officers were expecting and anticipating some tension. but there have been six people so far who have resigned in ferguson missouri. but as kayla was mentioning they want the mayor of ferguson to resign as well. kayla reid we appreciate you sharing your story with us as well. >> the st. louis county police chief said this was the kind of thing he's been fearing for the past few months that his police officers may in fact be targeted. that's what he thinks happened there in ferguson missouri. colonel jon belmar updated media

one is a lasting policy goal in the city of ferguson and that is he wants to see reform to the ferguson police department. so the kind of practices, discriminatory practices that were outlined in this report that has been issued today will be changed in the future. and the second thing i think he wants to do is assure the community of ferguson there will be real change. he wants to kind of prevent the unrest that we saw last summer and the way to do that is by demonstrating a firm solid investigation into this matter and there will be change that matters to people's lives going forward. >> tremain, you spend time on the ground in ferguson and you have been in touch with folks there today after the release of the report. what is the reaction there to the finding of a pattern of racial bias at the ferguson police department? >> i've spent the last hour and a half speaking to about a dozen residents, activists and elected officials and they are saying we've been saying this. on the one hand it seemed validated by the department of justice report and while they acknowledge there is a patter

i'm joined by ben ferguson cnn political commentator and host "the ben ferguson show" and -- both cnn political comment ators. i'm going to ask you all before we start this. so mark you're a heterosexual man. can you choose to be gay? >> i think that people can choose particular acts but i don't think people can choose their desire. i don't think people can choose who they love. that's a biological reality, and i think that's part of the problem. he is confusing with what people do with how people are and how they feel. that's really dangerous. >> can you choose to be homosexual or -- >> i think people choose to do different things every day, including if they choose to be gay or bisexual or transgendered or whatever it may be. there are a lot of people that choose different things. i don't think that is some shoe shocking new revelation. >> you yourself -- you can choose to be gay? >> do it then. do it. >> if i decided one day to choose to be gay. i'm not gay. that's pretty obvious. i'm heterosexual. i think there are people that choose to be for example, bisexual. can you choose to

what do they see when they look at ferguson? >> it was only a brief encounter between 18-year-old african-american teenager michael brown and white ferguson, missouri police officer darren wilson, when it was over brown lay dead in the street. the city of ferguson erupted and the nation forced to confront old wounds around race and law . >> resume or were rampant about the killing. protesters accused dells of shooting the un -- darren wilson of shooting the unarmed teenager in the back as he was surrendering, arms up in the air. nine months later the department of justice painted a different pictures. after an investigation by the fbi, hundreds of interviews, and investigations into forensic evidence, the report clooded that: -- concluded that dells's actions do not warrant charges. the report examines the chronology. before moon, brown, seen in surveillance, participated in the robbery of a box of cigars from this convenience store, assaulting the store clerk as he left. a few minutes later darren wilson, pat the rolling the ar

like ferguson. one is their officers don't have the right training. training has got to cost good money and when you can't amortize it over a number of cops. secondly, we may not be paying to get the kind of police we need. this is a big deal. >> i think those are very good points. i think in fact one of the major reforms that the doj has required they have actually required significant changes in training both in-service training while you're on the job as well as training in the academy. so that's one of many burdens that the city of ferguson is going to have to likely bear going forward. i think you're also right it's easier for a big city to reduce the cost of overall officer in training programs, it might be tougher because there are some upfront costs that ferguson is going to have to bear because they are the municipality that needs to implement these reforms. >> the really spectacular training in richmond, california and a great police chief out there. but have little cities ever said, when

shots fired. >> are officers here in ferguson norfe ou four their own lives? >> yes. >> what do you tell them. >> they are afraid. you look at crowds of 50 to 300 to 5 luns. 00. -- to 500. all it takes is one or two to bring a pistol and it will change something peaceful to something violent. it's always in your mind who has the gun. there's no way to prevent it. >> reporter: what does six months, a year out from now ferguson. >> different changes, different approaches from the officers. moor interaction with the community. do you think that helps more trust the officer. we spoke to some who say they don't trust police officers. >> right. the trust has to be redeveloped. i don't know. like i said, i consider myself fresh meet. i'm brand new. a lot of protesters, black people - how do you encourage doubt doubt no. >> how do you enkaurge black people and let them know they'll not be targeted. a lot of complaints is they'll be targeted. what is new? >> my officers, not have body cameras, car cameras. they'll be held accountable. you know, that's the biggest thing

he said ferguson has plenty of revenue without aggressive policing and faping. >> ferguson is a large municipality. i'd say they are top 25. it has guaranteed revenue of millions of dollars, not because of fines and such. >> curtis says he pushes for amnesty of anyone stopped without cause. every time a resident doesn't appear in court, $100 was added to the tab, an arrest weren't and suspension of licence. there were 9,000 arrest warrants issued, applying to 33,000 different offenses. and in ferguson warrants are issued without the opportunity for res bents to explain if the reason is that the court closed early. >> it would open a file and there would be a speeding ticket. what should have been 100 pucks, now this person will owe close to 1,000. >> this is a municipal judge, 10 minutes from ferguson. he is running for city council in ferguson, and says there are ways to alleviate the fines. >> in our court, as a broad amnesty programme is we started dismissing all of them. african-american leadership in missouri agrees. police shot spend their time on larger issues. >> i would think

not in ferguson! we're in new york. i'm doing a comedy show. >> really? a comedy show? with an upside-down map! what's the joke? >> larry: it's not a joke. it's about how you see the world. it's about your perspective. >> really in what's your perspective on this $300 upside-down map ticket? >> larry: you can't just write me a citation! >> look at this desk. the hell they is this? rectangle? triangle? rectangle? i hate it. $450 ugly desk fine. >> larry: you can't just stop me in the middle of my show. >> yes, i can. i can stop you if you have a broken taillight. >> larry: my desk doesn't have taillights. >> tell that to the broken taillight on your desk. >> larry: when did i get a taillight? i don't even remember having a taillight! >> look, it was there. and let me see your registration. >> larry: i have a script. i don't have a registration. this is come di! >> this is time slot was reported stolen a few months ago, by an s. colbert. >> larry: i didn't steal it from s. colbert. this is my time slot!

is it safe for the ferguson police to operate within the city of ferguson? should -- should police from other agencies come in and take over? what's the answer? >> well you know the strange thing is that the two officers who were shot here are not actually from ferguson they're from two neighboring police departments who were there to assist. so the answer i think is just to use a lot of vigilance and we need as we did here in new york you need cooperation from the community. this is a two-way street. everybody talks about community relations. yeah it's a two-way street. >> sir, there's no trust at all between the community and the police at this point so there's a big problem there, right? >> sure. and the other thing is all this -- this thing that was going around snitches get stitches and all this kind of ridiculous stuff. this is your community, the people who live in ferguson. this is your community. do you want someone out there randomly firing shots? i mean it could have easily -- one of those bullets could have easily hit an innocent person who's sim

so they've been deeply involved in protecting ferguson. of course they had a lot of criticism early on from the way those demonstrations were handled. but there were officers in there day in day out. clearly tonight they were just policing a demonstration. no real violence, a couple of small arrests, pretty routine stuff. so to have this happen, it's just awful to have officers in a situation like this. >> i want to bring bradley back in who is on the scene. you've been watching this play out there in ferguson missouri. what's happening right now? >> right now, there's about roughly 25 protesters still on the scene just kind of like figuring out what's going on. it's about at least a hundred cops on scene from different departments. right now, the majority of them are on the side of the parking lot. where these officers were at it i see two crime scene investigators now trying to investigate, taking pictures of the officer's helmet that he was wearing when he was shot. i'm guessing he was the officer that was shot in the face. he was stand

now in a new look. >>> protesters gathered in ferguson, some celebrating the resignation of ferguson police chief, others were there demanding more. >> it definitely was a sense they wanted ferguson to know that they just didn't want the police chief to resign. they also want the mayor to resign. they want other people to resign. that point they tried to make last night. >> but then chaos. [ gunfire ] shots fired at police officers striking two in uniform. >> these police officers were standing there. they were shot just because they were police officers. >> eyewitnesses recounting the scene. >> i heard one, then i heard two or three more. >> the police had said everybody down, down, get down, get down. >> those shots immediately strike two officers that are standing next to each other. these officers are also standing in a line of about at least 20 to 25 officers. >> those officers are now back home after surviving what the county police chief calls an ambush. >> i would have to imagine that these protesters were among the shooters that shot at the police officers. i'm not blaming a

ferguson missouri's new acting police chief. speaks for the first time on national television to this show about fixing what's broken and of the fear his cops face on the street. >> they are afraid. and as you are sitting there in the office looking in crowd it's as #in your minds what's got the gun and there is no way to prevents it. >> also the major american city that actually asked the department of justice to scrutinize its own police force. i'll show you the startleing results from a perspective you haven't seen before. plus a california police chief who took a symbolic stands with protest, i'm hear in his own words why he did it. i am ali velshi our special coverage of the cost of injustice in america starts right now. >> police, drop the gun do, it now. >> shoot me. >> the bigger challenge is how to make good decisions under stressful circumstances. >> the cost of injustice. ferguson became a national movement fueled buyout rage over images of police deploying military-grade weapon to his quell protesters. ferguson has b

coming up the latest from ferguson. two officers shot shortly after news that the police chief resigned. we'll be joined with people later. they'll also weigh in on the continued developments in the university of oklahoma in the wake of the racist fraternity video. and also martin o'malley has the hillary clinton taken him from long shot to viable challenger? and we'll speak with senator mark warner of virginia who slammed senate republicans for trying to blow up nuclear negotiations with iran. that and much more coming up next on morning joe. [ female announcer ] we help make secure financial tomorrows a reality for over 19 million people. [ alex ] transamerica helped provide a lifetime of retirement income. so i can focus on what matters most. [ female announcer ] everyone has a moment when tomorrow becomes real. transamerica. the garden is the story of our lives... told and retold. it's as old as our time on earth. and as new as tomorrow. you can have a yard. or slightly less. gardening isn't about where we choose to

this is not just about ferguson. it is about a much larger system of racial control. >> michelle alexander for the hour. all that and more coming up. ♪ welcome to democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu has made his case for stopping in nuclear deal with iran. in a congressional address that saw him compare the iranian leadership to the islamic state and invoke the nazi holocaust he said an agreement would put a ron on a pastor nuclear weapons. -- iran on a path to nuclear weapons. >> lifting the restrictions on that program in about a decade -- that is why this deal is so b ad. it does not block iran's path to the bomb, but paves its path. >> president obama offered a detailed rebuttal, pointing out his previous dire warnings about iran's nuclear capabilities being wrong. he also said netanyahu has offered no viable alternative to reaching an agreement. >> how do we prevent iran from getting a nuclear agreement? the path we proposed is

which relates in some way to ferguson. ferguson, a very, very small agency. some of the findings in ferguson indicated a real lack of training, if any. structures that didn't even exist. and i wonder, given the number of departments that have so few officers, i wonder if you have confidence that those departments do get adequate training, given the size and perhaps where they are in the country. professor robinson: of course, many localities really value and cherish their local departments. so we are very respectful of that. but we do have one recommendation in the report that encourages the use of shared services. so regional training would be one way to approach that. and we have encouraged the justice department to have the office of community oriented services, provide technical assistance, or even funding. if available. to utilize those kind of shared services, if they are very small . to really look towards even potentially combining forces toward that because it is very difficult for a small department to send officers to training because they then hav

yet today, she still owes ferguson $541. and her story only one of dozens of similar accounts that our investigation uncovered. over time, it's clear that this culture of enforcement actions being disconnected from the public safety needs of the community and often to the debtriment of residents has given rise to a disturbing pattern of practice. our investigations show that ferguson police officers reteenly violate the fourth amendment in stopping people without reasonable suspicious. arresting them without probable cause. and using unreasonable force against them. according to the police department's own records, their own records, its officer frequently enfringe on resident's rights. they interfere with the right to record police activity. they make enforcement decisions based on the way individuals express themselves. many of these constitutional violations have become routine. for instance, even though it's illegal for police officers to detain a person even briefly without a reasonable suspicion it's become common prac

let's be clear. 9 nation's eyes aren't just on ferguson today, they will be on ferguson for weeks and months to come. will ferguson's police department continue to exist? according to one columnist not only should the police department be eliminated but the entire town should be abolished. he was responding to the details in that department of justice report that found ferguson police and courts how they were overticketing and overcharging african-americans to raise revenue. he writes ferguson officials were charging their people as much money as possible just to preserve and maintain a government that charges the people as much as possible. joining me now, the editorial writer for "the times-picayune" and also with me malik aziz the national chair and executive director of the national black police association so gentlemen, great to have you on. >> thank you for having me. >> jarvis let's kick this first to you. not only are you going as far as saying eliminate the police department you say eliminate the town. how does that improve the situation? >> well i will say first and foremost

and then ferguson, the the arrests in ferguson from 2012 to 2014 2014, 93% of the arrests were of african-americans, and this is the police department that when you look at it, it is 50 officers three african-american officer, and that is stark, neil don't you think? >> well again, let me say it this way, we don't know what their recruiting histories have been, a a been, and they don't mention it in the article at all, don. when they talk about these number, i don't have any information on the effort of ferguson not to hire the mi authority officers, and the other problem is the 67%, and they want to compare that number to all of the number, and when you look at ferguson and the surrounding municipal tis on ferguson, you have berkeley on one side which is 87% african-american, and on the other side jennings which is over 80% african-american, and in terms of the people who are stopped, are they from ferguson, jennings or the city of st. louis? we don't know that. in order to understand the numbers, there is so much more that that we need to know. until with we have the information, we have to be ca

these shootings follow months of tension in ferguson. last month the justice department said it didn't have enough evidence to charge officer darren wilson in the shooting of michael brown. it released a scathing report saying ferguson police discriminated against black residents. that's the background to what happened overnight. what happened overnight at the forefront of our mind. two officers in ferguson shot, in the hospital right now. joining us, chris king, the editorial director of "the st. louis american." we've spoken to you so many times. i wonder what your perspective is on what happened last night. we heard from the st. louis county police chief jon belmar saying it's miraculous in his mind something like this hasn't happened before. >> yes. i can see why. really once you think someone might want to shoot a cop, protest is a good place to do it. they're standtion there for hours at a time in a group. i will say i was at the police department when belmar spoke to the press today. he said they have a cooperating witness. we kno

. >> flash point ferguson, a community coming apart at the seams. with foyer top city officials already gone, there's talk about disbanding the police department, even city government. i'm here to talk about wiping off ferguson city government might be better for the people living there. >>> sansome aren't buying the top kremlin critic, you don't want to point the finger at vladimir putin. the cold war with russia i'll show you the spy ship moscow might be using to spy around havana harbor. i'm ali velshi and this is "real money." >> why you guys stopping him what did he do? >> these two officers took a very hard hit. >> that officer has just as much of a right to go home to his family as anyone else. >> ferguson is coming undone, the st. louis suburb with just 21,000 residents has seen its city manager local judge and police chief resign in just the last week. the court clerk has been fired. so far the mayor says he intends to stay in office, while elections for a new city council will take place on april 7th. but the question is being asked: shoul

can ferguson police keep the peace?

zillow >>> we are back now live in ferguson, missouri. attorney general eric holder is prepared to dismantle the entire ferguson police department if they don't go along with certain things. i'm joined by my guest kneel bruntrager and also a jeff roorder roorder, and david who is the author of "into the zone." what rare you observering to fight? >> well, there is nothing happening today other than exercising your freedom speech rights rights. >> and now, 125 feet away, and you would have to be an excellent marksman to hit one police officer in the head and one in the shoulder, and you don't agree? >> no, you would not with a pistol. and as you know vii have been involved in shootings, and interviewed many police officer, and it is something that happens periodically. >> you call it the golden bb. >> yes, the golden bb or the golden bullet and a bad guy gets lucky. the one thing that people need to understand about the dynamics of the gun fights is that people don't always come up to squeeze the gun or the trigger, and do it like this or b

. >> flash point ferguson, a community coming apart at the seams. with foyer top city officials already gone, there's talk about disbanding the police department, even city government. i'm here to talk about wiping off ferguson city government might be better for the people living there. >>> san some aren't buying the top kremlin critic, you don't want to point the finger at vladimir putin. the cold war with russia i'll show you the spy ship moscow might be using to spy around havana harbor. i'm ali velshi and this is "real money." >> why you guys stopping him what did he do? >> these two officers took a very hard hit. >> that officer has just as much of a right to go home to his family as anyone else. >> ferguson is coming undone the st. louis suburb with just 21,000 residents has seen its city manager local judge and police chief resign in just the last week. the court clerk has been fired. so far the mayor says he intends to stay in office, while elections for a new city council will take place on april 7th. but the question is being asked: shoul

and the question, opened then in ferguson is whether or not city officials in ferguson and the police department in ferguson are going to support federal intervention and the demands of the justice department here. >> doesn't really feel that the police force or the city of ferguson is going to be fully in support of what the federal government wants to do and suggested that the police force be taken over by a police force in normandy, missouri, which i've i'd never heard of and a yet smaller police force. first off these numbers you're talking about the 100 million in los angeles and new orleans raised taxes as a result. do we have any sense of what it costs to reform a small police ferguson? >> this is an open ended question. its difficult first off because most cities where the department of justice have utilized law enforcement, big cities like los angeles, new orleans pittsburgh, cincinnati, we don't have much of a track record of the doj using it in small cities like ste teubenville. ferguson is likely to have to pay for an external monitor. ateam of law enforcement experts, civ

this is not just happening in ferguson. if the d.o.j. does a report and lists all the municipalities we see the same report from all those in the city of st. louis, where they have racial bias racial police officers patrolling areas, where innocent people live each andery day. they are the target. >> when it comes to ferguson officials fired one police officer, suspended two others. can't the department get rid of the bad apples and move forward. >> again, this is a problem that has occurred for too long and the ferguson police department. they know who the individuals were and they did not do anything up until they came out with the report. so this is - this is a problem that has occurred for over a decade, and further than that so this is a - it's institutionalized racism. until we are able to deal with the problems of race here in america as well as in ferguson only then will we see true change. first you have to change what is in the hearts and minds of people patrolling the areas. >> so who controls ferguson if they shut down the wh

president obama: we just on the ferguson report come out. i don't think that is typical of what happens across the country but it is not an isolated incident. i think that there are circumstances in which trust between communities and law enforcement have broken down. and individuals or entire departments may not have the training or accountability to make sure that, you know, they are protecting and serving all people, and not just some. susan: i wanted to play that because i wanted to ask you -- a scene we were talking about with ms. robinson -- is what happens next? the president created this task force. the justice department has issued their findings on ferguson. he seemed to be at some point of national attention. if not a tipping point. but where does this go? kevin: well, i think one of the questions that is raised from this report is not only the findings, which were devastating for ferguson, but i think it is a question that the president raised in his remarks just now. how many other departments are in similar straits? the attorne

what ferguson needs to do is what it should have been doing all along. develop good policy, development and execute good training, develop and implement good supervision good discipline and good leadership. that's the key to all of these processes. they all, believe it or not are pretty much the same. they require the same fix because they exhibit the same problems. >> be you know, is step one changing behavior in departments that are overwhelmingly blash -- overwhelmingly white in an overwhelmingly black community as in ferguson would the answer be to simply hire more black officers? >> well it certainly wouldn't hurt. and i think it makes for a much more trustworthy police agency but that is not the fix. the fix is what we mentioned earlier with good policy, good training, effective supervision good discipline, and honestly good leadership is critical as well. >> on the behavioral side, that makes a lot of sense. on this issue ever conclusion with the city council -- of conclusion with the taught, using traffic stops to raise revenue, things we have be

and the question open-ended in ferguson is whether or not city officials in ferguson, and the police department in ferguson support federal intervention or what the d.o.j. demands. >> i had a state legislator on from the ferguson legislator that doesn't feel the police force or department of ferguson is in support and suggested that the police force be taken over by a police force in normandy - which i never heard of - and a population of 5,000 and a smaller police force. the numbers that you are talking about, 100 million in los angeles, new orleans had a big bill and raised taxes. do we have a sense of what it costs to reform a small police force, 53 members in a place like ferguson. >> this is an open-ended question of the it's difficult because most of the cities with the department of justice utilised authorities under the statute. big cities, like los angeles, new orleans, we don't have much of a track record of the d.o.j. using small cities outside of east haven connecticut. we can estimate a couple of costs that ferguson is likely to bear. the first is the city of ferguson wi

believe ferguson is an isolated incident. you have your finger on the pulse around the country. what do you think? >> well i certainly do agree with the president, but it's also important for us to move forward and i truly believe that the president through the recommendations that have been made by the task force here most recently there are many recommendations that have been made that is going to show how important it is for us to move forward and some action items as well in which we can utilize to move all police departments across this country forward. but let me say this as well, too. every police department in this country has a responsibility to adopt and maintain good community relationships. many police departments work at that every day. but certainly as you heard the president say, there's a lot of work to be done and i don't think any of this we should take for granted. we should just continue to progress and see ferguson as something that we all can learn from. it's a lot to be learned from ferguson but i'm in