thank you especially when robert bates has been charged with manslaughter. sheriff's officers and bates' attorney said the shooting was ex-able excuseable excusable. he was acting within his duty as a reserve deputy. his attorney spoke with us and made that case. >> he is very upset about what happened. he feels badly. the incident completely took him by surprise. he has all the requisite training. taser certified. if you watched the video, you know he was quite shocked when his gun went off. >> reporter: sheriff's officers say robert bates grabbed his handgun instead of his taser. now an attorney for the family of eric harris says they don't know how a mistake could happen in this situation. of course a lot of questions why robert bates was involved in an operation like this. we are told he was there in a back-up capacity. the attorney for the family of eric harris says bates paid his way to being a police officer after making thousands of dollars of donations and equipment here in tulsa. sheriff's officers say that is definitely not the case. they say he h

we are here in tulsa waiting for robert bates to turn himself in. we were told earlier this morning by his attorney that he would be turning himself in at some point here to the sheriff's officials he spent the last seven years volunteering for. as we await this news to happen many people still wondering just how a reserve deputy could confuse a bright yellow taser strapped to his chest during this operation for a small black .357 revolver in his hand. a lot of questions still swirling around that. we obtained a statement that robert bates gave to investigators four days after the shooting where he said he was shocked and from the recoil of the weapon once it discharged that he was in a state of shock and disbelief to find out that he had pulled a firearm and not the taser after that shooting incident. his attorney and sheriff's official, leadership here at the sheriff's department fully supports robert bates. they say this was an incident of excusable homicide that given the capacity he was working in that prosecutors should not have charged him wi

our bing question, did the interview help robert bates' case. a oklahoma state lawmaker is calling for a review of reserve deputy program this after the sheriff's office announced last week they would conduct their own internal review of the program. and joining me now, lawmaker calling for that nptd re reindependent review mike shelt on. they say they are going to launch this internal investigation into the program. why is it your opinion and why do you think policy needs to be changed and that just isn't enough? >> i think it needs to be changed for multiple reasons. this bates case has been a very unique case. i don't think anyone understands that so much money was involved in that process and i know we have many preserved duties are they all doing this pay to play situation? we don't know but i don't know if you can have in government sales and situations like this if they can look into themselves. the sheriff will do whatever is prudent to protect his election as sheriff and so important that it's looked at by independent eyes to ensure tha

that's why we are talking about robert bates here. >> yeah, five years later. >> and let's talk about a person in your firm, and they are talking about jealousy from other members of the department. we will talk about it on the other side. >> mr. bates was a former police officer, but 30 years earlier he was certificated and authorized to be a police officer in oklahoma. >> 30 years ago? >> yeah, but lacked the training. he was in a different category, and when he was received in the department there was some level of concern and jealousy, i think, and that was voiced to his superiors. >> a level of jealousy for this reserve deputy. can you expound on that? i don't see a level of jealousy expressed in this document. >> i don't know exactly where he got that information, but i will say, somebody that has come into the program and donated and given so much, i think there was probably a perception on the part of some people that he did receive special treatment back during this training time, but certainly over the last five years all the people that he has worked with almost on a daily

in the nypd, it's ten years younger than robert bates. i want to hear one part of this news conference today that explains how friendly the sheriff is with his friend, bob, as he just described him, including taking va occasioncation trips together. >> allegations of you and some of the members of the sheriff's office taking trips to the bahamas, things of that sort paid for by robert bates is that true? >> part of it's true yes. but i paid for part of it too. it wasn't just baits that went with me. i went with him. the under sheriff was there along with another reserve. >> so his ultimate supervisor here, the sheriff, he's paid for vacations to the bahamas for him. >> not only the bahamas, but how many times have they been to bates' home in florida. how many times have they been to bates' home in colorado together. how many times have they traveled with mr. bates? that's the exact issue we're dealing with here. you've got a guy that's got no training. and it leads one to believe the only reason he's out there is because he's providing va

>> reporter: as we saw just a few minutes ago, robert bates did arrive here at the sheriff's office in tulsa to turn himself in. they're in the process of doing that as we speak. he's being charged with second-degree manslaughter, which faces punishment of up to four years. as you mention, lots of questions swirling around his involvement in this undercover sting operation and what put him there. sheriff's official insist bates was not part of the front line of deputies working that operation that he was supposed to be in the back in a support role and it wasn't until eric harris started running that bates was thrust into a front line position. the attorney for the family of eric harris has been very critical of just how this operation went down and very critical of robert bates and his relationship with the sheriff's department here. we know sheriff officials acknowledge that mr. bates has donated lots of money. we don't have an exact figure but thousands of dollars worth of equipment and other things here and cars to the sheriff's department. he has an intimate relationship with the

let me bring in clark brewster attorney for robert bates. mr. brewster great to have you on tonight. let's begin with what exactly your client -- we heard about how mr. bates was supposed to be backup. he was that last patrol car, almost ran into this man heading toward him. walk me through what happened. >> well, mr. bates and the team was briefed that mr. harris was a six-time felon. he had armed robbery conviction assault and battery on police officers escape from a penal institution. he had been known to be selling drugs and weapons. and it was arranged to do an undercover buy. mr. bates was merely part of the containment team two blocks away. he wasn't intended to be pressed into any kind of action other than to provide observation and containment. >> i know he'd been with the violent crime unit from 2008 but can you explain to me about his role as a reserve deputy. i understand he had donated some weapons to the sheriff's department had been involved with them for some time. how often had he been out on an operation like this? >> mr. bates

. >> reporter: there has been a lot said about your personal relationship with robert bates. what's the nature of your relationship? >> well my son had an accident when he was in high school my oldest son. my insurance was canceled on my car. i was referred to mr. bates at that time. he became my insurance agent and insured my vehicles and my home for a lot of years. i think that's probably been 25 years ago when i first met bob. >> reporter: sheriff, is it fair to say that your office did a poor job of keeping records regarding bates' training? >> i'm not sure how to answer that. we keep records and those are placed in his personnel file. i think he keeps his only personal records and he provided a lot of them to the press. >> reporter: was it a poor job on the part of your office to not have all of the records? >> it could have been. last year we went to the legislature and got a law passed that allows us to destroy records after five years and so a lot of those older records were destroyed. >> reporter: for the record as far as you know were any of his training records fal

robert bates himself said that's not the case. he can prove he was certified to be able to work the streets of tulsa as a rederveserve deputy. so this is the first glimpse we have looken into the most detailed accounts of his training since he became a reserve deputy. what you see in some of these documents is what stands out the most is several of the firearms certification documents that show that he was qualified and trained to use a firearm, those are significant. there's also some comments in there talking about how mr. bates was a good deputy and able to relate well with the public and those type of favorable comments. all of this is really based on the criticism when you look at the fact of what mr. bates has done here is in the state that many people are having a hard time wrapping their head around how can you mistake a bright yell e low tase eer strapped to the front of your chest for a small black handgun on your waist, it calls into question whether or not he was properly trained to be in an undercover sting operation.

the voice you hearsaying he shot the suspect is that of a man named robert bates, he's a 73-year-old insurance executive charged with second degree manslaughter, if you're wondering what a 73-year-old insurance executive was doing with a badge a taser, a gun and a suspect dying at his feet, you're not the only one. how he came to be in a position to use deadly force is being questioned all across the country. >> eric harris is caught on tape selling an illegal handgun. >> i see it. that's a nice gun. >> harris is about to find out this is an undercover sting, and sheriff's deputies are racing in to arrest him. harris takes off running. >> stop right here, stop right here, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. stop right here, stop right there. >> deputies chase and tackle him to the ground. >> roll on your stomach. now. >> ouch. ouch. he shot him, he shot him. >> he shot him, he shot him. >> he shot me. [ bleep ]. >> oh, god, he shot me. >> you ran. >> i did not. >> you hear me? >> i lost my breath. >> eric harris would later die at the hospital. harris' brother says deputies went too far. >

tell me about robert bates' decision to take his story public. he did so the today show everybody sees that. will this hurt him or help him? >> i think it's an incredibly risky thing to do. normally somebody charged with a crime stays the heck away from the press. we all know that portions of that interview could be used as evidence against him in the second degree manslaughter trial. as a former prosecutor watching it i thought matt lauer made an important part of the prosecution's case when he got him to stand up and show that the taser and lethal firearm were located in fundamentally different places. it will make it just that much harder to defend at least from a charge of recklessness. how could he get them mixed up when as that very interview demonstrated, they're very different locations on his body. >> and gabe was talking about this slip and capture, that you get confused in the heat of it all and you confuse where things were and it was the same laser siting on both of them. is that common? >> well, that will be the defense and certain

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ed thank you. >>> and "out front" now, clark brewster he is the attorney for deputy robert bates. thank you very much for being with me clark, i appreciate your time. i want to begin with our breaking news. in the statement that bates provided to investigators, he said that he "received training by the maricopa county sheriff's department in response to active shooters." the maricopa county sheriff's department today, of course tells "out front" they have no record that bates ever attended one of these classes. is bates telling the truth here? >> yes, it was in washington, d.c. i have got a certificate that he attended. and that the sheriff lectured there. so i -- if you -- >> was it with the maricopa county sheriff's department or just a sheriff from the department? just trying to understand what the knew what happens is. sher saying he absolutely did not train with the maricopa county sheriff's department. >> oh he didn't. sheriff arpaio lectured in washington, d.c. at a seminar and he attended that seminar with other law enforcement officers for training. >> well he said that h

the tulsa world reporting that deputy robert bates did not earn his job on the force. sources tell the paper that supervisors of the sheriff's office were ordered to falsify bates records giving him credit for field training he never took and firearm certifications he never earned. questions were raised about being paid to play. he is a wealthy insurance ceo who donated to the sheriff re-election campaign. cnn has not been able to independently verify the claims in "the tulsa world." the sheriff's office did denying the report casting doubt on the sources. those doubts expressed in an e-mail to cnn. now "the tulsa world" reporters who broke the story, they will defend it this morning. they will be on "new day" a few minutes from now at 6:00 a.m. >>> developing this morning, a steep fall from grace for former nfl star aaron hernandez. once under a $40 million contract with the new england patriots now convicted by a massachusetts jury in the 2013 murder of one time friend odin lloyd. >> what say you? is the defendant not guilty? guilty of murder in the first degree or g

there are questions as to why robert bates was involved in an operation like. this this. the attorney for eric harris says bates paid his way into the force after donations to the department. sheriff's officers here in tulsa say that is not the case. they say he had gone through training and equipped to be involved in a situation like that. john and christine. >> thanks ed. >>> a series of developments in the shooting of a fleeing man by south carolina police officer michael slager. that shooting of course caught on video. now has slager facing murder charges. first, we know now the name of the man who remained in the car when walter scott took off running. his name is pierre fulton. he released a statement, i'll never know why he ran, but i know he didn't deserve to die. we have a new audio recording of slager after the shooting laughing as he says his adrenaline is still pumping. listen. >> by the time you get home it will be a good idea to jot down your thoughts of what happened and the adrenaline quits pumping. >> a man tasered by slager last year is filing a lawsuit.

robert bates, defense lawyer will join us. there's plenty of political news also today including -- this is true -- a congressional hearing today about sex parties. >> tulsa county reserve deputy robert bates has just turned himself into police. >> charged with second degree man slaughter involving culpable negligence. >> he shot and killed eric harris while trying to apprehend him. >> he says he was never trying to kill him. >> the passenger inside the car with walter scott before he was fatally shot is speaking out. >> saying he doesn't know why scott decided to run off during a traffic stop. >> but i know he didn't deserve to die. they are off and running in the 2016 race. >> this is the scene when hillary clinton parked the scooby doo van. >> well gang we're almost there. >> the most powerful woman in politics returned to the scene. >> i'm not a politician. >> but hillary clinton also announced she's seeking the crown. >> i'm having a great time. i can't look forward any more than i am. >> i -- >> instead of hillary? >> uh

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>> this idea of slip and capture is not only robert bates' attorney saying it but robert bates in the sheriff's get here in tulsa, this is an excusic homicide given that he was acting within his rights as a reserve deputy. the attorney says it's an accident of misfortune and he should not have been charged. robert bates has the support of the superiors in the leadership at the sheriff's department here in actual sarks anderson. >> who we should point out he's friends with. the chief of police there, and has donated a lot of money over the years to this department. the tape of the incident ends shortly after you hear one officer saying f your breath using an expletive to the guy who was just shot. do we know what happens after the tape stops? >> we do know that he was on the ground for several more minutes waiting for ambulances and paramedics to arrive on the scene. shortly after that that video cuts off. we asked about that and they say that the battery in the camera captured the takedown of eric harris we're told by sheriff's officials here that the battery they believe ran out and

could this be critical in robert bates case? >> he was screaming as he was yelling shoot me, shoot me. >> we have compelling video of a police officer keeping his cool while confronting a double murder suspect and refusing to use deadly force as the man charged. >>> we are also following this story very closely. a boat believed to be carrying as many as 650 people plus has cap-sized in the mediterranean sea off the coast of libya. we will bring you a report in a couple of moments. >>> first, breaking news out of california. take a look at the pictures we are getting in. it is an early, brutal start to the wildfire season. right now, more than 300 firefighters are racing to contain a wildfire that is out of control. but you can see those pictures there. we are so grateful to have your company as always this morning. i'm christi paul. >> i'm joe johns in for victor blackwell. so much news going on both here on the west coast, as well as the mediterranean sea. >> absolutely. >> the fires broke out around 6:00 p.m., last night, coro

he says he doesn't buy robert bates' apology. >> mr. bates, you still have to unveil this evil. mr. bates, shouldn't have had to use a taser on my brother. mr. bates shouldn't have shot eric with a 357 magnum. mr. bates has a price to pay. >> bates is charged with second degree manslaughter in the case. currently free on a $25,000 bail. >>> gun fights and burning vehicles after the arrest of a suspected drug cartel leader. it all happens right on the border of a u.s. town. we'll have that coming up here. also, airport screeners. behaving badly. one official says, it happens more often than you think. wish your skin could bounce back like it used to? new neutrogena hydro boost water gel. with hyaluronic acid it plumps skin cells with intense hydration and locks it in. for supple, hydrated skin. hydro boost. from neutrogena. >>> welcome back to "cnn newsroom." italian authorities have rescued migrants from the mediterranean, women and children. apparently ready to board a boat in libya to head to italy when a cooking gas cylinder exploded killing several. survivors of the blast made t

thank you. >>> a short time ago i spoke with robert bates' attorney mr. brewster. >> the reports are stunning. that multiple police officers and employees with the sheriff's office were intimidated into giving your client special treatment and even falsifying his training records. do you dispute that? >> yes. yeah the report speaks for itself. this was after a few months he had been on the job. keep in mind that reserve officers come in different varieties of experience. some of them come directly from a police department that have had a number of years of experience and into retirement become a reserve officer. some come from public life that have no police experience at all. mr. bates was a former police officer, about 30 years earlier. he was cleat certified and authorized to be a police officer in oklahoma. >> from 30 years ago. >> yeah but lacked the training and he was in a different category. and when he received into the department there was some level of concern and some jealousy i think, and that was voiced to the superyorz and it was reviewed.

i want to bring in now scott wood deputy robert bates attorney. i appreciate you coming back to talk to us. he's been referred to by your colleague, they say some people are painting your client in a bad and sinister light. let me just ask you about this fundamental question, though because you heard ryan young laying out that he bought cars donated to the sheriff's re-election campaign. there are people who say that adds up to him essentially paying his way onto the force. paying to play. >> erin that's not true. i know it's being said repeatedly. but that's not the case. deputy bates had all the requisite training and experience. i think i mentioned that last night that he had been involved in over 100 of these types of operations. and if you look at the layout of where they were when this gun buy goes down he's over a third of a mile away from that location. >> so let me just ask you, though, because of the things we know about bates' past and his training do raise some questions. as you point out, he had training. however, he has only briefly

. >> tulsa, oklahoma 73-year-old robert bates was formally charged with second degree man slaughter. >> after he says mistakenly he reached for his gun and not his taser. >> robert bates' attorney says he didn't think he should be charged at all. >> a well intentioned surgeon causes the life of a patient, they don't get charged with man slaughter. >> his analogy to the operating room, that's wrong. that's not what we cow criminal negligence. >>> guilty of murder in the first degree. >> former patriots aaron hernandez guilty of murder of odin lloyd. sentenced to life in prison without parole. >>> hillary clinton wrapping up day two of her iowa campaign. >> i want to hear from people on the front line. >> she's riding around in a van volg the grateful dead or something. >> but democrats and hillary, republicans have mayhem. >> who is the republican nominee likely to be? >> i don't care. i think they're all losers. >> smile gyroincorporator piloted by a postman caused quite a scare today. >> reportedly protesting campaign finance laws. >> violated the no fly zone nonviolently. ♪ >>> t

robert bates has been charged with manslaughter. he was a police officer from 1964 to 1965 and he's been a reserve deputy since 2008 bates donated to the sheriff's re-election campaign and has given five vehicles and other equipment to the sheriff's department. sheriff's family said that bates is a long time friend but tells the world that bates did not receive special treatment because of his donations. danielle nottingham has more. >> reporter: the last time of daniel harris' life caught on tape. >> a luger. >> a luger. >> reporter: an office wearing camera equipped glasses joined the chase and tackled harris. also nearby 70-year-old bob bates, bates is heard warning that he's going to use a taser. but instead of a crackle of a taser, a gunshot is heard. bates apologizes. >> shot him, i'm sorry. >> reporter: a dying harris claims he's losing his breath, and here's this in response. >> -- your breath. >> reporter: the district attorney decided to charge bates with manslaughter. >> there's no way an officer can get this confused for

law enforcement experts say and tell msnbc news it is possible robert bates may have made a heat of the moment mistake firing his gun instead of the taser, but that does not resolve questions about his training or why he was using force in the first place. gabe gutierrez is in tulsa with more. good morning, gabe. >> reporter: alex, good morning. the family of eric harris says while they appreciate robert bates' apology, it will not bring eric back. tulsa county reserve deputy robert bates apologized to the family of the man he shot and killed. >> first and foremost let me apologize to the family of eric harris. i rate this as number one on my list of things in my life that i regret. >> on april 2nd the 73-year-old insurance broker was acting as backup as a broad did camera captured sheriff's deputies chasing a suspect, eric harris. he meant to pull his taser but instead fired his gun killing harris. >> i shot him, i'm sorry. >> this was not an intentional thing. i had no desire to ever take anyone's life. >> his attorneys claim it's a phenomenon known as flip and capture where in high-t

speaking to nbc, deputy robert bates apologized to the victim's family as you can see here appearing with his family in this somewhat strange shot. he said it was an accident confusing his gun for a taser. ed lavendera is outfront in tulsa. >> roll on your stomach, now! >> reporter: in the video, you can briefly see the bright yellow taser strapped to robert bates' chest. then you hear the gunshot that would kill eric harris. [ gunshot ] >> i shot him, i'm sorry. >> reporter: it's a mistake that 73-year-old reserve deputy told the "today" show on nbc that he can't explain. >> i saw the light and i squeezed the trigger and then realized i'd dropped the gun. this was not an intentional thing thing. i had no desire to ever take anyone ice life. i don't understand how this can happen. you must believe me it can happen to anyone. >> reporter: but it's bates' training that is still under intense scrutiny. the tulsa world newspaper reports that it has five sources that say that bates' training records were falsified. sheriff stanley glens has acknowledged that some gun certification records

amy: robert bates has been charged with second-degree manslaughter. he was released on $25,000 bond. if convicted he faces a maximum of four years in prison and a fine of $1,000. on tuesday, andre harris questioned the police version of his brother eric's death. andre: if he had as much training as he supposedly had he would definitely know a 357 from a taser. he did not have to. this is something that either he did not really think about or he just decided that he wanted to shoot, and he would worry about it later. amy: robert bates is a wealthy executive and heavy donor to the police department who gets to volunteer on the force as a reserve. meanwhile the south carolina police officer charged with murder for fatally shooting walter scott will probably not face the death penalty if he is convicted. prosecutors say michael slager would still be eligible for a sentence of life in prison. on tuesday several members of congress took to the house floor to denounce police misconduct, and georgia congressman hank johnson called for congressional action. re

. >> the deadly shot was fired by robert bates. bates writes as harris resisted there was a small window to deploy his taser. i remember thinking i have to deploy it rapidly. as i thought there was a strong possibility harris had a gun. he said he was meant to use his taser, but was left in shock once he realized he uses his gun. and bates isn't a full fledged sheriff's deputy. he's a certified peace officer who volunteers in the department's reserve deputy prime minister. he's been a long-time benefactor of the tulsa sheriff's department. he's donated cars and video equipment. eric harris's family equipment said bates has paid a lot of money to play a cop in his spare time. >> it's absolutely mind-boggling that you have a wealthy businessman who's been essentially deputized to go play like he's some outlaw. like he's just cleaning up the streets. >> sheriff's officials say bates has undergone extensive training and bates himself says that he's assisted the violent crimes task force at least a hundred other times. >> he hasn't paid

. >> we have a big interview coming up with the attorney who is representing robert bates. the man who unit right there, stand off, stand off, the gun is loaded. stay off. >> man down. >> the police chief says running him over with the car probably saved his life. the officer was cleared by the county prosecutor and won't be charged. we will analyze that video with our law enforcement experts as well as the latest on robert bates. the reserve sheriff deputy in tulsa oklahoma who mistakenly shot and killed a man who is being arrested and is charged with manslaughter. he will join us and there's plenty of political news also today, including, this is true a congressional hearing today about sex parties. >>> robert bates has just turned himself in to police. >> he shot and killed eric harris, while trying to apprehend him. >> he never meant to kill the man. >> he would know a .357 from a taser. >> the passenger who was inside the car with walter scott before he was fatally shot is speaking out. >> he doesn't know why scott decided to run off during a traffic stop. >> i know he

. >> tulsa, oklahoma, 73-year-old robert bates was formally charged with second degree man slaughter. >> after he says mistakenly he reached for his gun and not his taser. >> robert bates' attorney says he didn't think he should be charged at all. >> a well intentioned surgeon causes the life of a patient, they don't get charged with man slaughter. >> his analogy to the operating room, that's wrong. that's not what we cow criminal negligence. >>> guilty of murder in the first degree. >> former patriots aaron hernandez guilty of murder of odin lloyd. sentenced to life in prison without parole. >>> hillary clinton wrapping up day two of her iowa campaign. >> i want to hear from people on the front line. >> she's riding around in a van following the grateful dead or something. >> but democrats and hillary, republicans have mayhem. >> who is the republican nominee likely to be? >> i don't care. i think they're all losers. >> smile gyrocopter piloted by a postman caused quite a scare today. >> reportedly protesting campaign finance laws. >> violated the no fly zone nonviolently. ♪ >>> th

the attorney for robert bates was on cnn. let me point this out. he was claiming your sources have the same lawyer as eric harris' family. this is the victim's family. and your sources are terminated employees from the sheriffs office. take a listen to that. >> so their sources are their clients. one was terminated for stealing records from the sheriffs office years ago. one was terminated for improper conduct. he's since then committed a murder and is being held on murder charges. those are the sources. >> i'm not going to ask you to give up your sources, but i have to press you and have you respond to that. >> well i mean obviously i'm not going to say who our sources are, but i can say that we've talked to them before this happened. we've talked to them before. they've always been right, and we trust them. >> let me ask you a step further, because from what i read in your paper, is that the sheriffs deputy who would have signed off on all of this at the time with robert bates, he's gone. he's now with the secret service. before i tell you what t

robert bates the tulsa deputy reservist falsified records deputies have the integrity not to go along with it. very quickly just out of time whitney, i apologize. who's got the liability here? does he have individual liability? does the sheriff's office? what's going to happen? >> everybody has liability here. i mean this is such a mess and honestly as a defense attorney, it's a dream come true. i would light that department up with public records requests for other clients that would be arrested. it's outrageous completely outrageous. >> rebecca? >> everybody is responsible. for the people who said i'm not going to falsify the records they're testifying for the sheriff's department in a case for the malicious prosecution and wrongful death. >> thank you very much. sorry we've got so little time. appreciate you being here. >> online poll results. we asked last night -- i'm sure the white house will like this. that's it for us tomorrow james stavridis, good night from new york. neil: you heard it here first the white house energy ceo said the white house is waging war on his business a

a deputy tackles harris, when 73-year-old reserve deputy, robert bates shouts he will use his taser. but the tulsa county sheriff's office says that bates grabbed his gun and pulled the trigger. >> reporter: as he lay dying, the officers taunt him. retired police officer named jim clark has been brought tune review the fatal incident. >> you can train some one as much as you can, and you train in every area that you can. but in times of crisis, sometimes, training is not going to take you through the scenario. >> with the video release, questions turned to why bates, an unpaid uncertified deputy was on the scene in a sensitive sting operation. >> mr. bates lacked really any kind of training. mr. bates had been a tulsa police department officer from 1964 to 1965 for one year and never passed probationary period. >> reporter: he says, bates was afforded opportunities within the task force due to significant, long standing financial support of the sheriff's department. >> he could do anything he wanted to. you heard the sheriff's department say, like any other officer could do. but he c

harris was killed by reserve deputy robert bates who says he mistook his gun for a taser. in an nbc news exclusive, the mother of harris's son says she forgives bates but still wants the truth. harris's son says he wants bates and the other deputies involved to pay for what they did. >> they should all go down. they were all -- they were involved in it. one of the dudes had his knee on his head. i thought that played a part in his death after the shooting. so i would like all of them to get what they deserve. >> attorneys for the harris family says bates was not adequately trained. over the weekend, an attorney released more than 60 pages of documents showing bates qualified in weapons training ten times, took a class on tasers in 2009. but those training documents are still incomplete. the sheriff of tulsa county will be asked to clear up those questions when he holds a news conference again set to start about an hour from now. neighbors's gabe gutierrez continues to follow this for us. gabe, where do things stand right now? >> hi craig, good morning. as you mentioned, we

robert bates the tulsa deputy reservist falsified records deputies have the integrity not to go along with it. very quickly just out of time whitney, i apologize. who's got the liability here? does he have individual liability? does the sheriff's office? what's going to happen? >> everybody has liability here. i mean this is such a mess and honestly as a defense attorney, it's a dream come true. i would light that department up with public records requests for other clients that would be arrested. it's outrageous completely outrageous. >> rebecca? >> everybody is responsible. for the people who said i'm not going to falsify the records they're testifying for the sheriff's department in a case for the malicious prosecution and wrongful death. >> thank you very much. sorry we've got so little time. appreciate you being here. >> online poll results. we asked last night -- i'm sure the white house will like this. that's it for us tomit it right now. >> found in grandpa's attic. >> dirty, dusty old box. like wow. i don't know what it is. >> a discovery that will make the baseball world fli

an internal review found concerns about robert bates going back several year. nbc's gabe gutierrez has the details. >> reporter: in 2009, the tulsa county sheriff's office launched an internal review into the office's treatment of reserve deputy robert bates finding incomplete field training and on duty behavior that violated policy. colleagues reported that when confronted, bates, a political supporter and campaign contributor of the sheriff, said anyone who took issue with his actions should talk to sheriff stanley glanz. it concluded that bates had received special treatment. >> he's running, running, running. >> reporter: on april 2nd, bates shot and killed eric earms sting operation. bates says he accidentally mistook his gun for his taser. >> i shot him. i'm sorry. >> reporter: the lawyers for eric harris' family are now calling on the sheriff to resign. >> the public's entitled to know the truth. the harris family is entitled to know the truth,and they need to be transparent. >> reporter: bates' attorney says he has not seen the report, but in a written

a new report calls into question whether robert bates should have even have been carrying a gun. the newspaper, tulsa world, is reporting that some supervisors at the tulsa county sheriff's office were ordered to falsify the training records for robert bates. tulsa world reports that at least three of bates supervisors were assigned -- reassigned after refusing to sign the training documents. the report does not say who asked the supervisors to allegedly falsify the records. the paper says the false records give bates credit for field training he never completed and firearm certifications he should have not gotten. the training documented obtained by cnn omit the names of the supervisors who signed off on them. records show in the last seven years bates has taken a variety of courses. everything from weapons training including glock, taser and rock river training as well as less than lethal delivery system training sessions. the sheriff's office denies the allegations. and the newspaper's report. they also decline cnn's interview request to respond to the claims. local media's re

he is robert bates, a 73-year-old insurance executive and reserve sheriff's deputy. he now faces a charge of second-degree manslaughter. police released this video on friday saying it shows bates fired his weapon believing it was a taser. >> he believed it was critical to get harris subdued as soon as possible. >> reporter: but harris' family questioned why bates was even on the scene with a weapon to begin with. >> it's awful hard without me getting -- laying there with a knee to your head people sprawling you out, a 74-year-old man boom come gun you down. >> reporter: and they're not alone in asking questions. >> i'm going give the shooter the benefit of the doubt. i think it was an accident, a tragic accident. but why was he using his taser in the first place? that does seem something more likely about somebody who wants to play cops and robbers and volunteer for it. >> reporter: for bates, it was not his first time making an arrest. he was police officer from 1964 to '65, and a reserve deputy since 2008 with 300 hours of training and 1100 hours of community polic

cnn's martin savidge has the story. >> reporter: a 2009 investigation found that deputy robert bates was insufficiently trained and gimp special treatment including policies violated and continues to be violated with regard to special treatment shown to reserve deputy robert bates with regard to his field training. the investigation included interviews with employees who said they felt intimidated by sheriff's officials to help bates. one of the supervisors said when bates was confronted about overstepping his training and authority, bates reportedly replied, well, i can do it, and if you don't like it you can talk to sheriff glanz. those training concerns have resurfaced in the aftermath of the shooting of eric harris a suspect in an undercover law enforcement sting who fled authorities. bates said he killed harris by accident believing he was using his taser when in reality he fired his gun. >> oh, i shot him, i'm sorry. >> reporter: the attorney for harris' family said bates wasn't qualified to be on the force but received treatment because he donated money. >> i was referred to m

robert bates has been charged we second degree manslaughter in the death of eric harris. the 73-year-old was a tulsa police officer from 1964 to 1965, and he's been a reserve deputy since 2008, bates donated to the sheriff's re-election campaign and has given five vehicles and other equipment to the sheriff's department. sheriff's family said that bates is a long time friend but tells the world that bates did not receive special treatment because of his donations. danielle nottingham has more. >> reporter: the last moment of eric harris' life were captured on police video. tulsa county sheriff's deputies say he was the target of a sting operation and was trying to sell a gun to undercover agents. >> it's a luger. >> a luger? german luger. >> reporter: an office wearing camera equipped glasses joined the chase and tackled harris. also nearby 73-year-old reserve deputy bob bates. bates is heard warning that he's going to use a taser. but instead of a crackle of a taser, a gunshot is heard. bates apologizes. >> shot him, i'm sorry. >> reporter: a dying harris complains he's

. >> the video shows mistakes made by septembery robert bates. he fires a gun shot immediately apologizes and drops the weapon. bates told police he thought he was firing a taser, but why was he there to begin with? should sheriffs rely on volunteers in such dangerous operations? >> i used them. i wouldn't mind being a reserve deputy. >> former sheriff richard mack says his reserves were trained like any full-time officers but they weren't paid. >> a lot of them work for free. there is not a police agency or sheriff's office who doesn't need that kind of help. with budgets the way they are these days and manpower being down reservists are wonderful. >> there are thousands of reserved sheriffs deputies and more volunteer police. dutys and training vary from state to state. a 2013 survey of reserve officers by the national sheriffs association show 45% had law enforcement powers of arrest on or off duty. 90% were armed. the overwhelming majority do vehicle and crowd patrol duties although more than 1/3 also participated in dangerous operations such

the deadly shot fired by the reserve deputy, robert bates. and harris resisted arrest bates told investigators he made a quick decision to use the taser. i remember thinking i have to deploy it rapidly as i thought he might still have a gun. he realized he used his gun instead. adding to the volatility here bates is not a full-fledged sheriff's deputy and is a certified peace officer, and he has been a long-time benefactor of the tulsa police department. >> deputy bates made all the criteria to be in the role that he was in. >> his family questions how bates could have confused his two weapons a. bright yellow taser or a .357 revolver. >> it's captured by another behavior that might be well more rehearsed or motorized even internally than your initial intention. >> reporter: it's an idea of called slip and capture, and it's a phenomenon that they have been saying it's the phenomenon that has been involved explaining the mistake, and many experts call this idea junk science. >> and the family of the man killed eric harris say they are encourag

many are used for crowd control, but others like robert bates, in the thick of it. the question, which is the safest? >> thank you. >>> and the fbi admitting that nearly every fbi examiner gave flawed hair testimony. overstating matches in 95% of the 268 trials reviewed. 32 defendants were sentenced to death. the fbi says until 2012 there were no written standards for communicating the results in court. >>> and high security in the boston marathon. the second marathon since the bombings there. sentencing for the convicted bomber continues on monday. >>> and a somber milestone in a case of terror. the oklahoma city blast, still incomprehensible. and the survivors and families of the victims gather to remember the moment that changed their lives forever. neal karlinsky is there. >> reporter: 20 years later, memories may have faded, but the wounds for many here are as fresh as yesterday. >> kevin lee >> reporter: it was 9:02 a.m. when a truck bomb tore through the murrah federal building. >> a major explosion in oklahoma city in a federal building. >> reporter: the dev

there are now multiple questions about 73-year-old robert bates' training and records. ed lavandera has the latest. nats - roll on your stomach now. you can only see a quick glimpse of tulsa sheriff reserve deputy robert bates in the video. when eric harris is shot and killed during an undercover sting nats - oh. but how the tulsa county sheriff's department allowed bates to work the streets is under intense scrutiny. the tulsa world newspaper reports that supervisors in the department were told to falsify bates' training records and that at least 3 supervisors were transferred to other jobs for refusing to alter the records. a sheriff department spokesman refused to comment saying they don't respond to rumors. sheriff stanley glanz and other sheriff's officials have repeatedly insisted bates was properly trained. "did he have the proper training, and all the techniques that he needed. we feel he did." the tulsa sheriff's department has only released a summary of bates' training courses over the last 7 years. the department rejected cnn's request last week for the full

bates going back several year. gabe gutierrez has the details. >> reporter: in 2009, the tulsa county sheriff's office launched an internal review int office's treatment of reserve deputy robert bates finding incomplete field training. colleagues reported that when confronted, bates, a p supporter and campaign contributor of the sheriffs, said anyone who took issue with his actions should talk to sheriff stanley glanz. it concluded that bates had received special treatment. on april 2nd, bates shot and killed eric harris, a suspect in an undercover firearms sting operation. bates says he accidentally mistook his gun for his taser. >> i shot him. i'm sorry. >> reporter: t lawyers for eric harris' family are now calling on the sheriff to resign. >> the public's entitled to know the truth. the harris family is entitled t truth and they need to be transpa >> reporter: bates' attorney s h not seen the report, but in a written statement said, since 2009 mr. b received hundreds of hours of training and experience in the f

robert bates surrendering to authorities tuesday. meanwhile the victim's family says the 73-year-old essentially paid for the right to play cop. they're vowing to fight until all questions are answered. ryan joins us live from tulsa this morning. >> reporter: good morning, michaela. robert bates bonded out just 30 minutes after turning himself in. there are about two dozen protesters who showed up outside the jail to show they were upset about the video that everyone has seen. this was a case where they had pulled over a man decided to buy a gun from operation, the man takes off running and they chase after him. at some point robert bates says taser, taser but instead fires his gun. across the country tasers and guns are used on the opposite side of the waist. but in this case the gun was fired by an accident. he was shot in the back. that man would later die. the attorney for robert bates says this was an accident, something he didn't intend to do. >> you know, obviously he is very upset about what happened. he feels badly. the inci

an internal review found kirnconcerns about robert bates going back several year. gabe gutierrez has the details. >> in 2009 the tulsa county sheriff's office launched an internal review into the office's treatment of reserve deputy robert bates finding incomplete field training. colleagues reported when confronted bates, a political supporter and campaign contributor of the sheriffs said anyone who took issue with his actions should talk to sheriff stanley glanz. it concluded that bates had received special treatment. on april 2nd, bates shot and killed eric harris a suspect in an undercover firearms sting operation. bates says he accidentally mistook his gun for his taser. >> i shot him. i'm sorry. >> repor the lawy for eric harris' family are now calling on the sheriff to resign. >> the public's entitled to know the truth. the harris family is entitled to know the truth and they need to be transparent. >> reporter: bates' attorney says he has not seen the report but in a written statement said since 2009 mr. bates has received hundreds of hour hs of training and

nbc's kevin tibbles has that report. >> reporter: 73-year-old robert bates was formally charge edd with second degree manslaughter. >> how do you feel about the charges? >> i feel they are unwarranted and shouldn't have been brought. >> reporter: he was acting as backup when the suspect bolt eded. 44-year-old eric harris was selling an illegal gun. a scuffle ensued picked up by police body cam. bates pulled what he thought was his taser, but instead, fired his gun. harris later died. bates claims in the heat of the moment he mistook his pistol for his taser. there are more than 100 reserved deputies with the tulsa sheriffs office. that number is about 50,000 nationwide. in many jurisdictions, reservists make financial contributions to the department. bates has contributed thousands. >> the point is if you have enough money, you get to go. play cop. >> reporter: the sheriffs office says bates had had once been a police officer and had more than 400 hours of training as a e reservist logging 3,000 hours of service. >> he was not playing anything. he was there like the other officer office

what are the training requirements for oklahoma for arrive officers like robert bates? >> well, for reservists and full-time duty officers, tony, there's only one requirement to be certified once in your lifetime. so in the 51 years since bates was certified since 1964, he has not been reserved. and also, oklahoma law said that a reservist doesn't have to do continuing requirements, other than firearms training, which is up to the local agencies itself. >> i would think that you need to get that certification updated. heidi jo castro. doug wyler is the editor-in-chief. dedicated to law enforcement news and doug, good to see you, let me see if i can lay a foundation here. do you have a problem philosophically or fundamentally, with the use of reserve officers? >> no, i don't. i think a very well managed reserve officer program actually enhances a law enforcement agency's ability to serve the community and to better connect with the community and oftentimes, having such a program oftentimes enhances the police relations. you have civilians out there working with those res

deputy robert bates pulled his gun instead of his taser. there were reports that the training records were falsified. the sheriff's office admitted the training records were missing and training requirements may have been waived by the sheriff. bates gameclaims he took training from maricopa county arizona. the spokesperson in arizona said that is not offered to out of state officers. an attorney for the harris family said there is no way the reserve deputy belonged on the streets with a weapon. >> the sheriff said they are lost. we have not located them. doesn't mean they are never to be found again. it means we are trying to figure out where the training records are. this goes back a long time. >> we are talking about hours on the job training field training which is what specifically required that he is there with the officer. he is working. he is learning how to do a takedown. he is learning how to carry a weapon. he is learning the difference between what a weapon feels like and taser feels like. i don't believe any of that training ha