ben carson, and donald trump, just behind them carly fiorini. that is a big statement. >> this is spectacular, this is a that american people had enough, that republican primary voters said, you know what, the establishment has led us down this path of unbelievable spending. lou: are you seeing any adjustment in part of the establishment? >> just look at house of rel representatives -- house of representatives, john boehner will do everything he can to not defund planned parenthood, and increase our debt ceiling, to answer, no. the republican heede leaderships just as bad as everyone else. lou: all right david bossy thank you. >> thank you. lou: be sure to vote in our poll, question is, what do you believe is a better use of president obama's time? a, renaming mount mckinley? b, confronting global terrorism. c, dealing with a lagging economy. >> hurricane season is starts to get more active. forecasters are watching hurricane fred, strengt strengtg near the cape verde islands, and a rare weather event this weekend, three category 4 hurricanes, c

and carly fiorini and carson a postdebate boost, they are not politicians, they pretended to be outsiders, they seek kozziest seek -- coziest seats in the dc bubble. in a crowded field, she poked lou hulla ballou to double her fun. and donald trump still dominating like the alpha dog, with 25% of pollable support, in second spot, dr. ben carson. retire neurosurgeon, and who points out things if you count out a number every second and wanted to contour national debt you have to count for 5 507,000 years, that is heavy. that hurts my brain, carson has since doubled his support since fox debate, with a comfortable 12%est in. nest. governor christie's numbers stayed the same, jeb bush did his bes impression of milton dug the debate. >> we need too stop the iran agreement. kennedy: he was moved to basement. but former florida go governor s seen a huge drop from his lackluster performance from 15% to 9% in that fox poll, he will have company there scott walker, shaved off 3 percentage points and rand paul not doing any favors with his skirmishes with christie and trump, he has been on antitrump

and carly fiorini and carson a postdebate boost, they are not politicians, they pretended to be outsiders, they seek kozziest seek -- coziest seats in the dc bubble. in a crowded field, she poked lou hulla ballou to double her fun. and donald trump still dominating like the alpha dog, with 25% of pollable support, in second spot, dr. ben carson. retire neurosurgeon, and who points out things if you count out a number every second and wanted to contour national debt you have to count for 5 507,000 years, that is heavy. that hurts my brain, carson has since doubled his support since fox debate, with a comfortable 12%est in. nest. governor christie's numbers stayed the same, jeb bush did his bes impression of milton dug the debate. >> we need too stop the iran agreement. kennedy: he was moved to basement. but former florida go governor s seen a huge drop from his lackluster performance from 15% to 9% in that fox poll, he will have company there scott walker, shaved off 3 percentagpoints and rand paul not doing any favors with his skirmishes with christie and trump, he has been on antitrump o

i don't think someone like carly fiorini would have shied away from the question , even if he was out of line. i think he just should have answer the question then and they're. >> ramos' behavior was a microcosm of illegal immigration. they sat and waited. he busted through the line and demanded attention. all of these candidates have been afraid for so long. it was satisfying for me to see someone stand up. to your.-- to your point, authenticity is important. thatthat is what hillary lacks call with the republican candidates need. >> he should have answer the question. he did typical, and this is why people are attracted to candidates like ben carson, donald trump because they are not politicians. he did not answer the question. he deflected and tried to turn into his policy agenda which people are resentful for because that is typical. >> it is no secret that hillary clinton has her share of headaches. joe biden reportedly leaning toward iran. hillary has cut short her vacation and is back on the campaign trail. bill clinton is agitated about the evolving biden news. why do you thin

that's why you see ben carson, carly fiorini. the people who are rising and doing better are not of the political world because those are the people that continually disappoint us. we want some real, regular people. lou: wrapup here. you get the last word. i'm thinking about the regular people. hillary clinton in an offense if surrounded by scandal. is she going to make it? >> i don't think so. i do not think she is. even for the clintons, the democrats with all the political protection, hillary clinton has dug herself and so deeply. there are many more shoes to drop. she has a meld the marcos's closet ready to drop. it will be the death of a thousand cuts. i have been saying, ii don't think she will get the nomination. lou: i have never heard you make so many metaphor so splendidly. thank you for being with us. and a reminder to vote, do you believe trump irrespective of whether he wins is making a valuable contribution to the demise of political correctness in the country? cast your vote. the fdavote. the fda has just approved

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if i was a less charitable person i would call them lies charles: carly fiorini has called them lies, has she gone too far to just fess up? you can say, i made a mistake, i should not have been using a server. >> that is what jean robinson -- gene robinson wrote in his column in washington post, why does she just not say, i am sorry i made a mistake but this may be too late now, she has become so combative. charles: to your point, her husband did get away with this, but he did have that personalty thaty he was able to squeak through. i don't know how she will continue to defend this. >> this is not something that can be corrected. it has been a problem for a long time, in 2008 she was very stiff, people were willing to forgive bill for his sins, first of all, they were tied to sex, that is very different from national security. and this is not just the republican, and partisan opponents who are pointing this out. out. charles: all of these political candidates surround themselves with a lot of yes men, maybe they could say, listen, when eugene robinson's, washington posts of world wri

we see people like carly fiorini, been carson command takers benefiting from his presence a lot of people are supporting him because he gets the message out they're and what the base wants to talk about and bringing new people and more eyes to the party. been carson himself said, i have 300,000 new followers after that debate. he should be thanking donald trump for that. eyes and ears on our candidate meeting conservatives all the way around where we would never have without trump in the race, and this particular case of immigration. we all must admit we would not be having a substitute of a discussion number one. charles: no doubt about that, bs that have always bothered the base, tax policy, same-sex marriage, while they willing to say we don't care anymore? immigration is such an important topic that some of those core issues don't matter anymore? >> you must consider the alternatives. most gop candidates we will go out they're and copy and paste from their favorite republican.republican. then they get elected and don't govern accordingly. we have higher spending, growing government, a

listen to carly fiorini. >> when you look at the celebrity of donald trump, that says a lot. i want to remind people in 2007, rudy giuliani was leading the polls for almost a year. part of that was his celebrity. >> i don't know. i did not get a phone call from bill clinton before i jumped in the race. did you get a phone call? i didn't. maybe it is because i didn't give money to the foundation or donate to his wife's campaign. >> each of the candidates asked to describe the frontrunners in two words. >> divisive and no vision. no vision at all. >> not trust worthy. >> let's go with three. good at e-mail. >> socialist. >> not the change we need. >> professional politician that can't be trusted. >> you get the picture. when the happy hour debate was over, it was all about fiorini. listen to her. the former ceo on the attack about trump's comments about women's health. >> i think it will become an ad in a democrat campaign. hillary clinton jumped all over it for a reason because she saw an opportunity. it is foolish to say that women's health is not a priority. >> chris, is it

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carly fiorini, the only gop woman, said mr. trump, there is no excuse. governor scott walker states he agrees, and jeb bush. >> come on. give me a break. we want to win. what domed trump said is wrong. >> and donald trump still refuses to apologize to megyn kelly. many top leaders are anxious that the attacks could hurt their chances to attract women voters. abc news, washington. >> donald trump is denying he hates women, saying he believes women can be, quote, killers in a good way. a lot of you just saw trump on "this week." the presidential candidate defend himself against the allegations he hates women saying female voters are giving him his margin in the policy. trump later explained when he meant when he called women killers in a 1997 book. >> they are phenomenal, and i have many executives that are women. they are doing a phenomenal job. i pay them a tremendous amount of money. they make money for me, they make money for themselves, and in many cases they truly are really talented and they can be killers. >> trump adds, no matter what, his campaig

barack obama had yes we can and now carlie fiorini found herself a mantre. >> hillary clinton is still defending planned parenthood and she's still her party's front-runner. she did lie about her e-mails and her server. >> will she go farley? she's as stable as an ikea dresser in a wind storm. i thought she did great. am i impressed by her because of the competitors around her which were kind of lackluster. >> there was nobody there. lindsey graham looked like he was reciting a research paper from memory in the third grade. she came out and crushed it. she's classy. i like to see her on the bigger stage. being a star, she's star. >> okay. >> she has no political experience, i believe. does that matter? >> that wonderful. i owned a hp while she was at hewlett-packa hewlett-packard. she's done more from me than any politician. >> i got hp in college. that was not a real joke. >> i am okay with it. so many of these people on the stage kept patting their own backs all night. i understand it's important for the american people to understand what you've done and what you'll do for the countr

that is what carli fiorini says. >> if they get a sound byte they will get the attention. it is how it is played after the fact. they have a chance that some minor candidates who did not get to the main debates in past year. >> maybe a chance at a 5:00 p.m. debate. there could be an interesting inter mingling. >> some have 20 years experience of policy and leadership in state or congress. hard to found one sound byte in ten minutes to try to tell the american people why you are different than 16 others on stage. >> right. >> what about donald trump? do you think fox is doing anything in particular to prepare for his presence on that stage? you know you hear reports they don't want him to overshadow the whole thing or they are excited and he had added electricity to it. >> make sure no one takes over. i think there is a conventional wisdom that trump will be the frontrunner and not do anything to mess that up. you know the way the rules for the debate are structured. the people with the top poll numbers will be center of the stage. jeb bush and donald trump will be at the c

it is the potential being an outsider somebody like ben carson or carly fiorini or somebody like john kasik but in some views he's the governor of ohio. in some view he's view as a little bit of an outsider. i think if john casick meets it up and meets the voters in a strong more direct way he has the potential for it. right now these voters will not vote for jeb bush and they want an outsider. whether it's carson fiorina or say casey but it's not jeb. >> rose: suppose it is john casey and suppose his running mate is marco rubio. there you have ohio and florida. does that mean that the chance republicans against the presumptive nominee hillary clinton is greatly increased? >> then let's assume also adding to that that donald trump doesn't run as a third party and he behaves himself in the course of the general election. i think if somebody like john kasick and marco rubio was the presidential nominee they would be a huge advantage against hillary clinton in the general election. you point out the states, florida and ohio. the demographics, a latino that would be on the ticket. then yo

fiorini, quite an accomplished businesswoman who's on the bubble of giving in or not. so we wanted america to see the broader field and i think that was accomplished, thanks largely to c-span's showing it nationally. >> host: what you think of a forum versus the debate and why did you organize it that way with the candidates taking questions one on one for five to seven minutes in a couple of rounds? >> guest: yes. we wanted to make it easier for the candidates to accept our invitation. and as you may know, republican national committee has specified a limited number of debates, and this wasn't one of them. if we had had a debate with all the candidates questioning each other, then those candidates according to the rnc would not be allowed in any other official debate. frankly, i think of a couple of big name candidates had said to have without, we're going to do a debate in new hampshire, the rnc would've folded its tent and let them in. but the great thing about the event last night, i think it was more informative and more in depth with questions to the candidates t