host: mr. califano? mr. califano: i think all of that is correct. also, notice a couple of other things. one, that is why the president said to nick and to me, try and get registrars, federal registrars and these counties for voting that come from the state, that come from the state. so, he was very conscious of not sending yankees in to any of the states, because he did not want the southern congressmen and others to have that argument. you are sending yankees down from the south. by a large most of the federal registrars came from the states they were going to work in indy county voting areas and also eastland, the chairman of the senate judiciary committee violent segregationists. he was very important to lyndon johnson and johnson's desire to get judges through the senate that would be basically comfortable with affirmative action and civil rights and all of the things that were happening. that mention of eastland is just a little signal, a reminder to nick katzenbach, who was well aware of it as well, we have beaten eastland's now a couple of t

host: mr. califano:? mr. califano: i think all of that is correct. also, notice a couple of other things. one, that is why the president said to nick and to me, try and get registrars federal registrars and these counties for voting that come from the state, that come from the state. so he was very conscious of not sending yankees in to any of the states, because he did not want the southern congressmen and others to have that argument. you are sending yankees down from the south. by a large most of the federal registrars came from the states they were going to work in indy county voting areas and also, eastland the chairman of the senate judiciary committee violent segregationists. he was very important to lyndon johnson and johnson's desire to get judges through the senate that would be basically comfortable with affirmative action and civil rights and all of the things that were happening. that mention of eastland is just a little signal, a reminder to nick katzenbach, who was well aware of it as well, we have beaten eastland's now a couple of tim

host: mr. califano? mr. califano: i think all of that is correct. also, notice a couple of other things. one, that is why the president ultimately said to nick and to me, try and get registrars, federal registrars and these counties for voting that come from the state, that come from the state. so, he was very conscious of not sending yankees in to any of the states, because he did not want the southern congressmen and others to have that argument. you are sending yankees down from the south. so by and large, most of the central -- federal registrars came from the states they were going to work in in the county voting areas and also eastland, the chairman of the senate judiciary committee violent segregationists. he was very important to lyndon johnson and johnson's desire to get judges through the senate that would be basically comfortable with affirmative action and civil rights and all of the things that were happening. that mention of eastland is just a little signal, a reminder to nick katzenbach, who was well aware of it as well, we have beate

mr. germany, thanks for joining us >> thank you. it's my pleasure. >> joining us from new york, joseph califano, the assistant for domestic affairs from 1965 to 1969. also secretary of health and welfare from '70 to 79. and the author of "the triumph and tragedy of lyndon johnson. thank you for joining us. >> nice to be with you. >> before we go into the conversation and the phone calls, a little bit about your perspectives coming from mr. germany to you first. the lbj project, what is that? >> the lbj project is a gold mine project in essence. it is a group of scholars at the university of virginia, public affairs. that is trying to get all of the recordings tribed, annotated. everything you would need to know what's going on in the information. editors there try to present it. we are trying to put everything out from the assassination all the way through the end of 1969. it is the history with the bark off. there was a lot of bark on when it comes to lyndon johnson. >> what do the telep

mr. germany, thanks for joining us >> thank you. it's my pleasure. >> joining us from new york, joseph califano, the assistant for domestic affairs from 1965 to 1969. also secretary of health and welfare from '70 to 79. and the author of "the triumph and tragedy of lyndon johnson. thank you for joining us. >> nice to be with you. >> before we go into the conversation and the phone calls, a little bit about your perspectives coming from mr. germany to you first. the lbj project, what is that? >> the lbj project is a gold mine project in essence. it is a group of scholars at the university of virginia, public affairs. that is trying to get all of the recordings tribed, annotated. everything you would need to know what's going on in the information. editors there try to present it. we are trying to put everything out from the assassination all the way through the end of 1969. it is the history with the bark off. there was a lot of bark on when it comes to lyndon johnson. >> what do the telephone calls reveal was going on other than the