a surprise upset for bernie sanders. millions across the country cast their ballot on super tuesday. we're breaking down the big winners and losers. welcome back, i'm christine romans. >> i'm john bermen. 31 minutes past the hour. breaking overnight, wow, this was simply stunning. bernie sanders with an upset victory in michigan. such an unexpected result there. the sanders campaign didn't expect it. the clinton campaign didn't expect it. the polls did show it was going to happen. hillary clinton did win in mississippi by a huge margin. what does that mean? that hillary clinton won more delegates on this super tuesday. you're looking at the total delegates that includes sup superdelega superdelegates. on the republican side, donald trump had three strong wins, michigan, mississippi, high he. ted cruz won in idaho. an awful night for marco rubio. he didn't win any of the states. he picked up no delegates for sure in michigan, mississippi or idaho still waiting on hawaii. it's maximum one or two delegates. an awful night.

en bernie sanders. that bird was a symbol for bernie sanders subpoena a swe. have a sweet, sweet, sweet saturday. >> bill, you take issue? >> didn't you recognize the holy spirit jie mean, you know -- whoa. this is easter weekend when the holy spirit descends on bernie sanders. watch out. watch out. >> and the holy spirit, the last time i checked, will not take sides in any political contest it. >> so does this mean ba kthat t clinton campaign will be carting in birds? just land on the podium! >> oh -- >> well, i do think that today is going to be an amazing day for bernie sanders. if we have surprises, any intervention whatsoever and hillary clinton actually wins a state, the biggest surprise of the day. the fact of the matter is hillary clinton remains 300 delegates in front of bernie sanders. she actually has the vote lead, the actual raw vote lead by over 2.5 million. important as well. when you lead this western saturday, bernie sanders still has to prove he can win in diverse states like a maryland, a pennsylvania a new york, california. and he has to wi

[crowd chanting "bernie"] [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: phoenix, thank you! phoenix, thank you. [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: this is a huge crowd. [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: and this is a loud crowd. [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: thank you, thank you all very much for being here this evening. let me thank gilbert romero. [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: let me thank katherine figuero bueno, a young woman who saw her parents arrested on television. and what this campaign is about is making sure those types of things never happen again! [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: i want to thank mcconna and jose miranda. phoenix, are you ready for a political revolution? [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: are you tired of a handful of billionaires running our economy? [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: well, if you are, you have come to the right place! [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: you know, what excites me so much as i go around the country is to see the incredible energy of hundreds of thousands of people who love thi

[cheers and applause] [crowd chanting "bernie"] bernie sanders: next week, arizona has a very important election. we will win. [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: we will win of the voter turnout is high. let's make it high. thank you all very much. [cheers and applause] ♪ ["starman" playing] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] ♪ i had to phone someone so i picked on you hey, that's pharrell so you heard him too turn on the tv we may pick him up on channel two look out your window i can see his light if we can sparkle he may land tonight don't tell your pop-pop or you'll get us locked up inside there's a star man waiting in the sky he'd like to come and meet us but he thinks he'd blow our minds there's a star man waiting in the sky he's told us not to blow it because he knows it all worthwhile he told me let the children lose it let the children use it star man waiting in the sky he'd like to come and meet us but he thinks he

[cheers and applause] "bernie!] bernie sanders: i want -- this is not a radical idea -- i want every kid in this country studies hard, does well in school, to be able to go to college regardless of his or her income. [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: i am a member of the u.s. senate committee on the environment. [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: and i have talked to scientists all over the world. the debate is over, climate change is real. [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: it is caused by human activity. together, we are going to break our dependence on fossil fuels. [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: and transform our energy system into sustainable energy, and energy efficiency. [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: i have been criticized for saying this, so let me say it again. [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: i believe that health care is a right for all people. [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: i believe there is something wrong when every other major country on earth provides health care

say this is a bernie positive you. there are a lot of people here seem ready to support him. people were showing up two hours early to verified they were registered to be a democrat, that they could vote today, because you have to be registered to vote at as a democrat in today's poll. a lot of people showing up early and making sure all their ts were crossed and is dotted so they can take part of it. definitely seeing a lot of support from bernie. seeing a lot of generations here too. it's a wide turnout here as far as the ages are concerned. so bringing a lot of people out here in hawaii to take part in that and keep in mind, jake, neither hillary clinton or bernie sanders has made the journey to hawaii to be here. we do understand that jane sanders, bernie's wife, was here, but neither of the candidates made the journey to hawaii. what's going on on the mainland playing big in hawaii, jake. >> all right. stephanie elam in honolulu. david, tell us about some of the endorsements and ads and things that have been playi

we just heard from bernie sanders. whatever the final number is, this is still considered a big win for him tonight. >> reporter: yeah, that's right. i mean, the sanders campaign feels like this gives them a lot of momentum going into these series of contests coming up here in a week, wolf. he's really looking toward ohio, even before seeing his showing tonight, his campaign felt that his message attacking hillary clinton for her past support of some -- even before seeing how it played here in michigan. that's certainly we should watch going into the next week here. i want to talk about some of the polling. the sanders campaign on friday did their final internal polling. they found that hillary clinton was up by what i was told by one aide was high single digits. that was on friday. they didn't bother polling over the weekend because they found it really difficult to get ahold of young people, which are so key to his sort of black -- his numbers did not reflect his support of minority voters. >> ohio, one of the big co

bernie sanders. this is a place where his message plays very well. keep in mind this is the home of the minimum wage debate, this is the home of marijuana legalization, so this is a place where his message plays very well. now, here at the caucus, really a three sort of phased caucus. you come in, there's an initial vote. then folks have three minutes to talk where they try to sway the undecided votes into their camp or to try to switch people from hillary clinton to bernie sanders and vice versa. and then there's that final vote. and those are the results that we're waiting for now. i have to tell you a pretty informed group of people, it takes some courage certainly to stand up in front of your friends and neighbors and that's exactly what you do here at the caucus. you're talking to people in your neighborhood trying to persuade them one candidate or the other. so we saw a lot of informed debate happening in the caucus. ari. >> and briefly, cal, one of the things we saw last night was 15,000 peopl

so she really needs bernie sanders backing. she needs for bernie voters to feel bern for hillary. he may be in it to win it but most of us know that math isn't on his side. >> were there conditions? >> yes. there were conditions. i had a huge problem with the statement and the sentiment behind it. if hillary clinton but conditions on barack obama it would have been scorched earth. more importantly, bernie sanders has gone from a message candidate when he got started and he announced he was going to run for the presidency, to a formidable candidate to now figure out where he goes from here. i want to make sure that bernie sanders doesn't turn into ralph nader. >> hold on. bill. hold that thought. we'll get back to it. to jake. >> that's right. we have a key race alert. we have some of the vote coming in from alaska where there are 16 delegates, 15% of the delegates right now with 15% in, 81.6% for bernie sanders, hillary clinton is 18.4%. kate, back to you. >> we're watching that, that's a huge margin. huge. >> let me say -- >> let me go out on a limb. that's huge. >> i don't want

bernie sanders camp. in mccomb county, bernie sanders was leading and now hillary clinton is leading but look, 70 something votes. literally arm wrestling. up here, mitt romney's home county. gets more affluent. hillary clinton a very narrow lead when you get into the detroit suburbs. in what you want to call the all the owe part here, there's-- au there's a struggle here. both the clinton and sanders campaign wondering what's going to happen. >> we're standing by to hear from bernie sanders. he can be very happy. irrespective of the outcome, he's done a lot better than most people thought he would do based on all of the polls. a week from today whether it would be in ohio or illinois, this bodes well for bernie sanders right now. we'll take a quick break. much more right after this. my school reunion's coming fast. could be bad. could be a blast. can't find a single thing to wear. will they be looking at my hair? won't be the same without you bro. ♪ when it's go, the new choice privileges gets you ther

bernie sanders does. he cuts against that grain, and now that we have one in michigan, we're going to turn this corner and bring the neoliberal era to a close, my sister. we're going to fight the neofascism of trump and going to invite you to get on the bernie sanders love train. juan: before we get on the love train, i have to say of ernie gets nominated, we have yet to see the real attacks -- >> we are ready. we are ready. juan: at this point, the attacks are concentrated mostly on trump. i would like to bring melina abdullah into this conversation. in terms of the appeal that dolores huerta has made to black lives matter to get involved when it comes to voting, even not just at the presidential level, but the congressional and senate races that are up and coming that will really determine what any president will be able to do, your response to dolores huerta? >> i think we have a great deal of respect for dolores huerta as well as dr. west. it is really important we understand what black lives matter i

bernie! bernie! bernie! bernie! >> you know, we knew from day one that we were going to have politically a hard time in the deep south. that is a conservative part of our country. but we new things were going to improve as we headed west. and last week we won utah with 78% of the vote. we won idaho with 79% of the vote. and we won democrats abroad with 67% of the vote. we are making significant inroads in secretary clinton's lead and we have with your support coming here in wisconsin, a path toward victory. >> bernie! bernie! >> we have -- i think it is hard for anybody to deny that our campaign has the momentum. you are the momentum. look around you tonight. and what we are seeing and what momentum means is in state after state, huge voter turnout! and that is how we win when working people and young people, when people have given up on the political process get back in and demand a government that represents all of us, not the 1%. that's how it works. momentum is about a week ago having 14,000 people out a

i think that the crowds help bernie. i agree that the pictures do tell the story and i agree with joan. my position is blue no matter who. >> well, mine too. >> and at this point i feel pirpir bernie has been a great value to this race. i think he has pushed the argument and the conversation to the left and i think he ought to stay in and go all the way through and then see. one other thing i'll say very quickly. even if the math is against him catching up, the math may be on his side to prevent secretary clinton from getting 2383 before the convention and if it goes down to the super delegates making the decision, then i think we going to have somewhat of a contested convention in philadelphia. >> you say you're blue all the way. seattle is not just blue versus red. this is a part of the country that also has red. you have green party members of the city counsel. you have socialists. this is not part of the country like other parts of the country where bernie has had to first introduce or explain and inoculate against c

that's a bernie person. it's a bernie person. that's a bernie person. get that bernie person out of here. held up a sign, i'm a protester. all right. get him out. get him out. >> now the campaign officially tells me that they have nothing to do with this. but it's, you know, grassroots supporters groups that are behind this effort. but, look, i don't think this is going to go away any time soon. the bernie sanders supporters that i've talked to think this was a huge victory for them. they would like to see this repeated down the line. >> sanders this morning speaking with al sharpton did not explicitly say don't go. he said i'm not responsible. but he never actually called on his supporters not to attend trump rallies. >> absolutely. i mean, book, think they that donald drum is a dangerous person for the country. and they -- a lot of them think that bernie sanders is the only one who can stop him from being president. that if he loses the nomination, hillary clinton can't do it because they think it takes an outsider to take on an outsider. this is the

thank you, bernie sanders: fwoirn. -- thank you bernie sanders. we need someone who has bold leadership who understands with climate change, with health care, with education, with our future at stake that we need bold leadership from someone we can trust. someone who has stood up for justice his entire life. they have not listened to him, but we are. and we need to keep spreading that message, because people are voting against themselves. they are hurting themselves and their future. and we need to help them. we need to help them and each other, because this is about us. not me. it's not one person. it's not just a party. it's not the g.o.p. versus the d.n.c. this is about the 99% that is too big to fail against the 1%. so when i hear someone ask me, well, well, well, if it comes down to it, will you vote for the other candidate if it's trump? i say if you want to beat trump, vote bernie. we are playing chicken here. and we can't pull back. they are going to have to turn. that candidate is the ralph nader not bernie sanders. as an independent he i

do you think that is my man bernie sanders? [applause] that is bernie sanders. you know you can trust bernie sanders because in the 1960's in this country, bernie sanders can be found fighting for his country, even get arrested doing it. most politicians don't put that on their resume. was a man to risk arrest because he believed in what they were fighting for. he knew it wasn't the reality of 1961 but it could be the reality of 2016. if there were some proud people who were going to tell people just be realistic. campaign.patriotic we -- if we fight for what is right, we blew them out in maine. did you see what happened there. we blew them out in kansas as well. news from you good minnesota where we beat them something. we blew them out. that same victory is right in our grasp. right here in michigan. [applause] that same win is in our hands if we only reach for it and grab it. campaign with bernie, you see the people, the energy and the fire is on his side. it.can see it, you can feel but there's a whole lot of other folks who got other plans and maybe they ar

bernie sanders will cut into this. they are saying even in the coming days and the next couple weeks, maybe he cuts into her lead but then they expect, this is their expectation, she will still be at 200-plus delegates. the point they will make ever since she got past this line, this is more than barack obama ever led her in 2008. i think we'll hear a lot of that. >> also more than barack obama, bernie sanders is overperforming barack obama in the states right now. if these numbers hold for him, he will have performed better than barack obama. these were barack obama stronghold states in 2008. so he will be able to top that. i'll tell you one thing looking at my inbox, jake. bernie sanders campaign will not be the only ones fundraising. shortly after the projection for alaska, i got a fundraising appeal from the clinton campaign, quick update on bernie sanders. we think he's going to do very well today in the washington, alaska and hawaii caucus. please chip in. though he will be able to raise money off of this, they a

bernie sanders will get five or six. she will add to her 200 delegate margin by about 20 by the time all of the votes are counted tonight. hillary clinton will gain in terms of her path to the nomination even though michigan is a huge setback because the sanders campaign is arguing for democrats to win in november they have to get those votes in the states of michigan. until she can do that there's not the same sense of inevitability about her nomination. this has been a big night on the republic side for donald trump. he has won 14 states in the nomination contest and number 13 tonight is michigan. donald trump won 36 to 24. this was a double digit margin. much wider than people had participated. it underscores the donald trump that agrees with bernie sanders in terms of being ingredients free trade and naft and transpacific partnership. that economic message is playing well in placements like michigan and you're seeing democratic cross-over voters who like what he is saying and they registered in the primary tonight. d

i want to go to jeff who is covering bernie sanders' campaign. he's joining us right now from san diego with the campaign manager. tell us the latest. >> reporter: hi. i'm joined by jeff weaver. thanks for joining us. so a tough night in arizona tonight. senator sanders spent a lot of time there. what went wrong. >> i know cnn is projecting that 71% of the vote is in, but i think that's an under estimation of the number of people who were voting there. we've seen lines in arizona five hours long. that would be the people that voted, i think that's just wrong. so i think this race is going to close up substantially between now and the morning. >> are you predicting victory? >> no. we have to wait and see until the votes are counted. there's obviously something wrong with the numbers and i think once we see where they come down there may be a split of delegates in arizona. i do think in other places we're hearing good news. >> as this race goes forward john king has done a projection and he says even if you win 55% to 45% in every race going forwar

all of a sudden he turned himself into something of a victim with bernie sanders and bernie sanders' supporters on the other side and most importantly he's given his followers which are millions and millions of people, something like 35% of the vote cast, where he's given them something to say, kind of comeback about all this violence that has happened at these rallies and some of the rhetoric so they can now blame it on bernie sanders, this communist, so i think this works for donald trump. we'll have to see on tuesday what happens. >> bernie sanders, bernie's supporters get the credit for this, right and hillary clinton on the other side of it, i just wonder if you think mayor as a clinton supporter, this is in a way showing that perhaps donald trump sees bernie sanders as a more formidable threat in say a general? >> no, think it shows donald trump being the usual irresponsible donald trump, who is not taking any responsibility for virtually anything that happens in a campaign, and he could have obviously blamed senator sanders and next week he could be blaming secretary clinton.

she has 204,000 votes to bernie sanders 125,000 votes. she has 60.5% to bernie sanders 36.9%. an impressive win for hillary clinton over bernie sanders. let's go over to john king and see what's going on as we await the other contests in utah and idaho. >> as impressive lead for donald trump. 61% of the expected vote in statewide. it's worth noting he doesn't show up on our board because he dropped out of the race, but marco rubio is getting about 17% of the vote. marco rubio because of the early voting running ahead of john kasich. you have a lot of people out there saying if you them up -- >> they voted for him before he dropped out. >> right. it's not the way it works. if you didn't have early voting would those votes have gone to cruz today, that's the conversation on social media, but you play by the rules and there was early voting and this is what we have tonight. an impressive donald trump victory. 58 delegates. there's 40 more in utah. look at the numbers. you pop up the largest county in the state. the sheriff was for donald trump. the former governor for donald trum

[applause] [chanting] bernie, bernie, bernie! zanders: -- senator sanders: i have been told -- my critics say this, my opponent says ernie is a nice guy but just can't win a general election. he just can't beat those republicans. [applause] let me just say the polls go up and down and sometimes they are not always reliable bureau the fact -- virtually every national poll of has taken place has bernie sanders defeating donald trump. [cheers and applause] sanders: and almost all of those national polls and many state polls have bernie sanders defeating donald trump by a much wider margin than hillary clinton. ]cheers and applause senator sanders: here in michigan for example, there was a poll out the other day. hillary clinton did well against donald trump and beat him by 16 points, we beat him by 22 points. [cheers and applause] senator sanders: that is true in state after state after state. the reason that we will together defeat donald trump if he is the republican candidate is not complicated. that is that the american people a

that's what bernie sanders says, too. what donald trump has supported for 20 years is socialized medicine, the federal cougovernt in charge of everyone's health care. it means if you're a senior, the government decide whether you get a hip replacement. >> he said he wants private health insurance, should, allowed without state boundary, go all around the country and let the insurance companies compete. he says he doesn't want socialized medicine. >> you're a good enough journalist you no he's said dozen and dozens of times on television he want the government to pay for everyone. in the last debate he ran away from that position and supported buying insurance across state lines, which i've been advocating for a long time. in his position for 20 years, he says, he is, quote, a liberal on health insurance, everyone should get health insurance, it should, mandatory and the government should pay for it. if the government pays for everyone's insurance, the government controls everyone's health care. that has been his position.

[cheering] >> bernie! bernie! bernie! bernie! bernie! bernie! bernie! bernie! bernie! bernie! bernie! bernie! bernie! bernie! senator sanders: secretary clinton was in the senate and heard the same information that i did. i was in the house. she voted for the war. and that war is -- as all of you know turned out to be one of the worst foreign policy disasters in the modern history of america. now, in addition, in the last debate that i had with secretary clinton, she said something that really kind of blew me away. she said that henry kissinger thought that she did a very good job -- can't believe -- you -- you know who henry kissinger is, right? and why one would look for approval from one of the worst, most destructive secretaries of state in the history of this country, i don't understand. [applause] i do not want henry kissinger's approval. when that day comes -- when that day comes, i know that i'll be doing something very wrong. now, the reason that our campaign is doing as well as it is, and we've come a long, long way, we started at 3% in the polls. and now we're closi

[cheers and applause] bernie sanders: in my state of vermont, in my state -- [crowd chanting "bernie"] bernie sanders: in my state of vermont, neighboring new hampshire, and states all over this country, we are seeing now an epidemic of heroin use and opiate abuse. and we are seeing people dying every day from heroin overdoses. in my view, when we deal with drug abuse, we have got to deal with it as a health issue, not a criminal issue. [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: let me just take this opportunity to say what i know is on everybody's mind. we are all aware of the terrible attacks that have taken place in brussels. dozens of people are dead, and hundreds of people have been wounded. i think i speak for everyone in expressing our condolences to the people of brussels. [applause] bernie sanders: that is right, that is right. and let me simply say this. we will stand as a nation with our allies and our friends and people all over this world. we will stand with them and we will together crush and destroy isis. [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: we will destroy isis through a c

\[cheering] >> bernie! bernie! bernie! bernie! bernie! bernie! bernie! bernie! bernie! bernie! bernie! bernie! bernie! bernie! sen. sanders: secretary clinton was in the senate and heard the same information that i did. i was in the house. she voted for the war. and that war is -- as all of you know turned out to be one of the worst foreign policy disasters in the modern history of america. now, in addition, in the last debate that i had with secretary clinton, she said something that really kind of blew me away. she said that henry kissinger thought that she did a very good job -- can't believe -- you -- you know who henry kissinger is, right? and why one would look for approval from one of the worst, most destructive secretaries of state in the history of this country, i don't understand. \[applause] i do not want henry kissinger's approval. when that day comes -- when that day comes, i know that i'll be doing something very wrong. now, the reason that our campaign is doing as well as it is, and we've come a long, long way, we started at 3% in the polls. and now we're closing

i thought it was good for bernie sanders. >> you heard hillary clinton and bernie sanders insist they could beat the republican front runner, donald trump, in a general election campaign. how will republicans watching this debate from your perspective as a trump supporter? >> i think it was interesting the rnc released their talking points all about hillary not discounting anything that bernie said, fact checking what hillary said. i think the republicans are convinced that hillary will be the contender . last night's debate was a clue in to how one of our guys will have to handle hillary. you saw some of the the tough push back that bernie did to hillary yet no charges of sexism. it will be interested to see if you will see that same when you have a republican candidate charges against her in one of these debates if they will say he is sexist. >> hold on. hold on. hold up for a moment. we will continue this conversation but i quickly want to go to an unrelated story. peyton manning is holding a press dmmpbs denver right now announcing his retirement from the broncos after the super b

he told me he is voting for bernie sanders. now, wolf, the people voting for hillary clinton and i have spoken to some, i asked why and the number one reason they say is because of bill. their loyalty to bill clinton and bill is coming along. they believe the country was prosperous during bill clinton's term in office and they believe he can help the country even with his wife being president. >> interesting stuff. thank you. for the candidates right now it is all about the numbers and how they add up. who can secure up the delegates to get the nomination. look at the state of the race on both sides and what is at stake in the contest. john king breaks down the numbers. unfortunately -- hold on a second, here's john. >> four states with primaries on our second super tuesday of the campaign, two for the democrats, four for the republicans, hawaii, idaho, mississippi, michigan, 166 democratic delegates at stake, 150 on the republican side. mississippi and michigan voting on the democratic side. look at the state of play on the re

bernie sanders pay be five or six. that spread of 25 is important because look at what is happening to hillary clinton in michigan. bernie sanders has a 3 point edge that would suggest he will probably win maybe around 70 of the delegates if this holds up. this will be a humiliation of hillary clinton given the importance that she had placed on michigan over the last couple of days. bernie sanders' message about inincome equality, unfair trade, that is resonating with the people there. if you look at the overall candidates, in overall delegates, she is head of bernie sanders by about 200 in the overall delegate count, 699 to 478. this margin is larger than it was for obama and hillary clinton in the 2008 race. clinton people say there's no way bernie sanders can overcome this, with results like tonight, but the bernie sanders campaign saying she is a regional candidate, she can only win in the south and bernie sanders is proving that he is winning in a state that democrats have to have in november if they're going to d

get him out -- oh, bernie. bernie. it's another bernie sign. get out of here, bernie. get out of here, bernie. it's another bernie sign. get her out of here. out. that's a bernie supporter, folks. got the bernie sign. were you put in here by bernie? get out. out! [ crowd noise ] >> usa! usa! usa! usa! usa! usa! usa! usa! usa! >> get her out. get her out. where are these people coming from? unbelievable. where are they coming from? unbelievable. all right. thank you. any other protesters in the room? any other? they'll wear out. they get tired after a while. they get tired. that was a bernie -- she had a bernie sign, a big professionally made bernie sign. you know. bernie, bernie, our communist friend who's running. what a horrible thing. so those are bernie signs right off the printing press, and they put them in. he's not doing so well anyway. i guess it's going to be her. but we'll see. you go ahead. take care of them. get out of here. you know, if we do that to one of their rallies, you know what happens? front page how bad we are, okay? front page. we do that to on

bernie sanders had more than 30%. m.j., you've been doing some reporting on the clinton campaign, sort of the autopsy. michigan has only been over for a few hours, but they're trying to figure out what they did wrong. >> i think the bottom line is, campaigning hard matters. even in a state where the clinton campaign thought that they would do well, we saw signs that they were not campaigning as aggressive as they had in nevada or south carolina, for example. those count when people go to the polling stations. clinton only campaigned in places like detroit and flint, and neglected the other parts of the state. that's something the clinton campaign thinks could have hurt her. the clinton campaign now believes that perhaps the former secretary of state started focus on the general election a little too much. she didn't remain focused on many of the democratic nominations. and you could tell in her tone she was aiming her rhetoric at donald trump. often not naming him but it's clear who she was talking about, and letting

clearly swaying very much for bernie sanders. i want to get you a look inside of the last of the four. there are four tables left here. so four precincts left who are still trying to divvy out who is going to be the folks that they were choose to go to the next round of voting, and you're seeing the papers right there. those are the ballots. the things forkesforkes -- folk to decide who is going to be their candidate. we have 13 of the 17 districts or precincts in at 28% for clinton. 72% for bernie sanders and now they're going to decide who their delegates are. once they're finished with counting, the final count for them and they will figure out who the delegates are that are going to the convention. >> all right. that's just one small snapshot, but if bernie sanders continues with a 70-30 margin of victory, the kind of margin he needs in order to overtake, or at least catch up, with secretary of state hillary clinton. let's go to jason carroll now at a caucus site outside tacoma in sill com, washington. what's going on where y

>> clinton is definitely ahead of bernie sanders. bernie sanders is getting young voters and a few others, but she's trying to appeal to more of the base of the democrat party. for the republicans, you have got... listen, trump has got this. he's got this teflon thing going with him. i liken him almost to a drug. people are addicted to him and turn out in throngs to see him. momentum going with him. i don't know if he can sustain that. but it depends where they keep talking about issues or keep talking about hands and genitalia, it all depends. steve: you ruined my thought there. annette is there a cure for the drug that is donald trump? >> i don't know that there is one. i wrote on facebook last night i am petrified that he will get the nomination. i don't think he's a joke anymore and i don't think we can treat him as a joke anymore on the republican or democrat side. he's turning people out in droves and he's turning out scary people in droves. we need to pay attention to that. he could even suppress the republican base if we're n

by the end of tonight, we are going to win many hundreds of delegates. [ cheers ] bernie bernie bernie! chaptebernie[ chanting ] >> ten months ago, as you know, better than any other group in america, when we were out on the lake, we were at 3% in the polls. we have come a very long way in ten months. [ cheers ] at the end of tonight, 15 states will have voted, 35 states remain, and let me assure that you we're going to take our fight for economic justice, for social justice, for environmental sanity, for a world of peace to every one of these states. [ cheers ] now, wall street may be against us, and the super pacts may be against us, but i feel worry going to win because our message is resonating, and the people, when we stand together, will be victorious. [ cheers ] so on a personal note, i want to thank all of you for the love and friendship you've given our family. you have sustained me. and i am so proud to bring my falls all across this country. >> senator bernie sanders, acknowledging and thanking his supporters in vermont for a victory there in his home state of vermont. and w

bernie sanders came to play tonight. it showed a different candidate that he is going down fighting if he is going down. >> is it too little too late? we have seen some of this from the gop contenders they are going after their frontrunner. is it something that should have happened months ago? >> i think the midwest is going to be a new paradigm for him. he hasn't really hit her so hard on this trade issue because of states they have been in have been different. there have been different arguments the crime issue was big in the south. in michigan the polls are showing about a 10 point spread right now. i come from michigan. i happen to know -- >> an inside expert. >> she made great arguments that should appeal to michiganders in terms of being forward looking, the claw back tax for example. you don't support the bailout, you don't support xm bank. for michiganders that issue of nafta and trade and the devastation upon those cities around detroit and detroit itself has such an emotional issue i think that's still going to

he said that's just bernie being bernie. we wouldn't ask him to change for anything. they're defending that at this point. the other thing i want to draw your attention to, ari, is the issue of the auto bailout. this is a little bit of a tricky set of votes and some back-and-forth. this isn't quite as clear-cut as when mitt romney said it in that now infamous "new york times" headline, don't bailout the auto industry. this is the case when there was a vote to use the bill on the second half of t.a.r.p. funds for the bailout. bernie sanders did vote against that. they dispute that her characterization was fair, ari. >> let's get a little more of that when we come back to you. we have tad devine, and a long time democratic politics guru. good evening to you, tad. >> hi, ari. >> as a factual matter, he did vote, of course, against the original t.a.r.p. authorization, which had a lot of money for wall street. and frankly, controversial for that nature. and then january 15th, 2009, barack obama incoming, voted against releasing the remaining 350 mill that went to the auto

also among independents breaking for bernie sanders, young people breaking for bernie sanders. how does hillary clinton appeal to that without changing who she is as a candidate? >> i think you've hit on it is that hillary clinton can't change who she is because she's such a known entity. she was a free trader and she pushed the trade deals. voters who are very into the trade issue don't buy that and because of hillary clinton's problems with trust worthiness they doubt her position on trade. she's really stuck on that one. for donald trump it's a different situation because he's for free trade and pro-fair trade so it's like he prefers chocolate and van ilnilla. so donald trump has got the free traders and fair traders and not explaining how he plans to do that at all. >> policy and donald trump, maybe it will come up in thursday night's debate. >> coming up, hillary clinton went big against bernie sanders on the auto bailout. did that backfire on her in michigan. we have more next. at mfs investment management, we believe in the power of active management. by debating our res

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bernie! bernie! >> and the truth -- the truth is not only -- is not always pleasant. it's not always what we want to hear, but we cannot go forward unless we deal with the realities of american society today and that is what we are going to do. [ cheering ] >> bernie sanders speaking earlier this evening. ohio was a tough loss for bernie sanders. they spent a lot of money. >> they did actually across the five states they outspend her 12 million to 7 million. they put $4 million down last friday for the final three days of the campaign across the states. this is a bitter result for bernie sanders. he didn't expect to come away empty handed tonight. >> for those clinton supporters who wish bernie sanders would drop out, there is an argument to be made that it makes her a better candidate the longer he stays in, it also continues there being a battle on the democrat side. >> the idea that a contested primary is damaging for the general election is not historically borne out. when you get to this point in a primary the grooves are cut pretty deep and bernie sanders has fa

[cheering] bernie! bernie! bernie! bernie! bernie! bernie! >> in my view, in my view, something i believed my whole life. health care is a right of all people, not a privilege. [cheering] we are prepared to reform in a major way a broken criminal justice system. it is an international embarrassment that we have more people in jail than any other country on earth. it is not unrelated that we are communities where young kids, white, black, latino, native american, are suffering unemployment rates of 30, 40, 50 percent. so you know what we're going to do? we're going to invest in education and jobs for our kids. investment in education and jobs, not jails, not incarceration. and all of us are tired of seeing unarmed people shot and killed. now, i've been a mayor for eight years, and i've worked with police all over my state, all over this country. vast majority of police officers are honest and hard-working. but if a police officer, like any other public official, breaks the law, that officer must be held accountable. [cheering] we do not want t

this could get bigger for bernie sanders. but right now from the city of detroit, can hillary clinton expand that margin that she's getting in wayne county and as she expands it -- it's still not updated. as she expands that are there enough areas left in the rest of the state for bernie sanders to offset it. we have a real barn burner here in michigan. >> because this is an all hands situation, i'm going to ask chuck todd to come here and join us at the desk. we're here with lawrence and eugene. what do you make of this? >> this would be a big deal for bernie sanders if he can win. >> it's a big deal if he loses and it's a big deal if he wins. >> with these numbers, i went to the university of michigan and i kind of know the state, it's really hard to tell who is going to win this because -- she's going to get those votes. i think there's more to come in kent and that's going to be mostly bernie sanders. it's going to be very -- my old friend dan rather would say it's tight as a tick. >> this is happening in the real america

would be, oh, poor bernie. isn't that a shame? there's a horrible thing going on in the media. we are treated so unfairly and i'm treated very unfairly. >> we should take mr. trump's words with a grain of salt because i think, as almost everybody knows, this man cannot stop lying about anything. to call me a communist is a lie. to talk about our organization or our campaign disrupting his meeting is a lie. were there some people -- there were thousands of people, as i understand it. some were supporters of mine. but certainly, absolutely, it had nothing to do with our campaign or with disrupting his meeting. i think what you see, jake, even his republican colleagues make this point. his language and intoe nations, talking about carrying people out on stretchers, people sucker punch people and kick people when they are down. this is a command which keeps implying violence and then you end up with what you see. >> joining me now, senior white house correspondent jim acosta who is inside the rally and cnn's phil m

bernie. it's another bernie sign. that's a bernie supporter, folks. get the bernie sign. were you put in here by bernie? >> reporter: bernie sanders continued to hammer donald trump here in charlotte, north carolina, telling his packed pavilion that his campaign will continue to fight trump's bigotry. don't worry. you won't get beat up at my event. >> i want to bring back my panel and sally kohn. we're laughing and yet dismayed and upset all in one fell swoop. >> the alternative is unthinkable. >> is bernie sanders to blame? >> of course he's not to blame. donald trump must be feeling pretty desperate. the paradox is people are voting supposedly supporting trump because they say he says what he means. when he says i'd like to punch that protester in the face too or if somebody is going to throw tod tomatoes, give them hell, we shouldn't be surprised that his supporters thinks he means it. voters are angry across the board. the job of leaders is to channel that in a positive direction. donald trump has chosen deliberately to incite that anger. he is responsible. >> here is

bernie and donald trump would carry the same state. it's just going to send a big message all through next week. brian? >> chris matthews, thank you. chris matthews in detroit for us tonight. and we are still keeping an eye on the results in from michigan, where it is too close to call. a large proportion of the vote is in, and the margin between clinton and sanders is pretty chunky at this point. looks like there's about 34,000 votes between them. but chuck todd explaining earlier why it may be that this race is not being called. steve kornacki has a closer look at what vote we've got and what vote we don't have. >> also a detail from the exit poll that might be interesting, given that we have been talking so much about wayne county, detroit in that area. right now about a 35,000-vote lead statewide for bernie sanders. looking at wayne county, about two-thirds of the vote in, still 25,000 for hillary clinton, the lead there. now, what we've been saying is that the expectation is that as more vote comes in, this hillary clinton lead an

>> yes, bernie sanders he it is sort of a gadfly outsider container, let's make no mistake, bernie sanders is a sophisticated campaigner. pat divine is one of the well-paid high quality political assistants, who is attempting to win him in to the party, and sort of trying to take that away from hillary clinton. but they do have institutional knowledge, he is a politician, he has been in the senate and house, you can't do that without being a politician. his message is very outside and he is actually outside the democratic party apparatus. but he is a politician, they're running a sophisticated campaign. >> may i submit evidence for support of your point? >> sure. >> we looked at the sec filings that require them to say what they spend their money on, but bernie sanders started to spend several million dollars on national democratic party pollsters. he did not start that way to joy's point, but once he had the dough, he was oh, i want that too. trump, whether you think it's a pro or con, has never come around to spending that much money. there is an open question whether he is a general ele

people believe that bernie sanders says what he means. so, revealing a bit of herself that way is important. it is a way to sort of say, this is who i am. this is what i am. to explain the failings of her campaign at times. why she can never really run away with things. why she is always in a dog fight. i thought it was a striking moment. it was probably the most memorable moment of last night. >> what about wall street speeches? she was a new york senator. wall street was right in her backyard. she did go to wall street in the days before the financial crash and said subprime mortgages. cut it out as she has put it. bernie sanders has tried to paint her as too cozy to wall street. he is the guy to fix the system that's rigged against the little guy. he continued to hammer on that last night, eric. >> he did. you know, part of why this is so effective for him is bernie sanders' position is not complicated. hillary clinton's is. she does leave room for compromise. he doesn't. this is something that has been a problem for her for months. th

were yelling, bernie, bernie, bernie. perhaps senator sanders should be having a conversation with his supporters. >> and you are a bernie sanders supporter. how do you respond to that? should bernie sanders also have something to say about the people who disrupted donald trump saying they were bernie sanders supporters? >> we have a long history of protests in this country and wouldn't have some of the most important civil rights legislation passed if we didn't have peaceful protests for the majoties and bernie sanders the difference between the donald trump protestors or donald trump audience and supporters in the audience, they've had audience members, donald trump supporters, punch reporters. had them punch protestors. they've escorted people out. donald trump's own staff member grab at reporter. we're talking about two very different groups of people, and donald trump, be very clear here. he's inciting this. he's encouraging it, legitimizing racist violence in his own arenas, where he's giving these speeches, and tha

i think she has learned from bernie sanders. i think that is good. host: eleanor clift is with the daily beast, and also has her own website. you can follow her on twitter. thank you for your time. beach live,est palm awaiting republican donald trump . results still coming in for several states holding caucuses. we will give you an update. let's start with kansas. >> senator bernie sanders with reportingecinct declared the winner in the kansas democratic caucuses with hillary clinton .ith 32% of the vote in kansas, senator ted cruz the winner with 48% of the vote, 23%, andump with senator marco rubio with 17% of the vote. in kentucky, votes still being counted. donald trump in the lead with almost 35% of the vote. ted cruz, 31%. a little more than 17% for senator rubio. to louisiana, a democratic primary with hillary clinton declared the winner with almost 70% of the vote and bernie sanders, a little more than 23% of the vote. in louisiana's republican trump with 42%, senator ted cruz with almost 38% , and senator rubio with more than 11%. in the mai

that is bernie sanders secret sauce. he needs that huge turnout in order to do well. >> joe, there was a suggestion that hillary clinton cared more about flint. at least that's when she was playing that she cared more about flint than bernie sanders, that she cared more about the car industry. that she cared more about detroit and michigan than bernie sanders. what would an upset for hillary clinton tonight mean for this race? >> well clearly it would show just how powerful, how well organized and inevitable hillary clinton is if the democratic candidate date for president. she's believe up a lead. bernie sanders has done away great job of nursing democrats, especially new, young democratic voters, voters who are angry and feel that the economy is rigged but hillary clinton has just been so powerful. she's really racked up a huge lead, and i think it's going to be hard, no matter what. even if she happens to lose michigan tonight, the math isn't there to say that bernie sanders somehow wins all this. >> in some ways, a w

you support bernie sanders. what is the most important thing you want to hear from both of these candidates tonight? >> i think folks want to hear how we will move our country forward. working families are hurting. this is a state that has been hollowed out by bad trade deals. folks want to know how we will build a nation and lift working people up. >> the beginning of the activities we can hear the announcers beginning to talk about it. let's talk about the difference on this one issue. are there significant differences between the two democratic candidates? >> both have been very clear that there is a need for the government to act and if the state government doesn't act the federal government should act. bernie said the governor should resign. what is also different is we have a campaign office here. it is a trusted water distribution center but i'd say both candidates truly care about flint. this is a crisis. it is impossible to be in this town for five minutes to hear how young people's brains have been aff