but then you think -- charlie: charlie: living longer. michael: then you think more and you think what good is life expectancy if you have lost your marbles? so what you really want is a long life, with your cognition intact. then you think, well, you are going to be dead longer than you are alive, and what really matters is the reputation you leave behind. charlie: that's what stays. it lives longer than you have. michael: a canadian scholar wrote a book last year in which she, in which she said, jane austen was nothing special but that she had people working for her, she had pr forces working to make her, make her reputation. and apparently, for the half a decade before she died and this other woman died, she was regarded as number two. but fortunately for her, she had her brother, i think. charlie: you also tell the story of a magazine you love, "the new yorker," and you are prepared to be the new editor, and you told them about the parkinson's. and you suggested, because i have parkinson's, and you don't want to go through with this,

but then you think -- charlie: charlie: living longer. michael: then you think more and you think what good is life expectancy if you have lost your marbles? so what you really want is a long life, with your cognition intact. then you think, well, you are going to be dead longer than you are alive, and what really matters is the reputation you leave behind. charlie: that's what stays. it lives longer than you have. michael: a canadian scholar wrote a book last year in which she, in which she said, jane austen was nothing special but that she had people working for her, she had pr forces working to make her, make her reputation. and apparently, for the half a decade before she died and this other woman died, she was regarded as number two. but fortunately for her, she had her brother, i think. charlie: you also tell the story of a magazine you love, "the new yorker," and you are prepared to be the new editor, and you told them about the parkinson's. and he suggested, because i have parkinson's, and you don't want to go through with this, i

charlie: thank you for coming. mark: ok, thank you, charlie. charlie: mark halperin, of "with all due respect" on bloomberg politics. stay with us. ♪ . . . . . . charlie: mark maren is here and opposed of the popular podcast "wtf with mark marron." of the semist autobiographical show "marron." here is a look at the new season. ♪ mark: all right, everybody, before we get to today's interview, i think it is time to address the pink elephant in the room. or seenyou have read stuff about me on the internet, on reddit, on twitter, or you , so itn the blog sphere is time to set the record straight. several months ago, i started .sing pain medication pharmaceuticals can become a slippery slope. 16 years of sobriety down the drain. but i will say this, i nipped it in the bud, water under the bridge, no foul. ok? marron isnow, mark doing just fine. charlie: mark maron is doing just fine and he is back at this table. mark: it doesn't look good. i don't want anyone to panic. charlie: there are two things here, number one, what happened? mark: at the e

charlie: like tiger. whatever the question was, you did not know, but you knew tiger didn't answer it. phil: he is listening to his father, listening, not answering. charlie: speaking of tiger, you know him and you have been so good to him. he has been good to you. there is talk he may come back to the u.s. open. what do you think? phil: i do not know for sure. but if i was betting, i would bet he does. i know he wants to play. he has been starting to hit the ball. and i would be surprised if he did not enter tournaments sometime in the middle of may. charlie: before july, or whatever it is. what is your best analysis of what happened to his game? phil: oh, my goodness. do you play? charlie: i do. phil: it is a terrible game and a beautiful game as well. and he said, at his best, no one was as good as he was. phil: the best. golf gets away from you. nobody owns it, you just lease it for a while. he was working to get pressure off of his body. it took a while with the swing changes to get in the groove, an

charlie: 1877 to 1880. jody: it really gets to this important thing about degas's practices, that he is always looking for new techniques to describe new subjects. as i said, the most pressing of the most urgent subject of the time is the expansion of the city. so he gives us an elegantly dressed man and woman. he has drawn them on the plate. at the 40 prints it, he takes a rag -- but before he prints it, he takes a rag or his fingers and rubs it. so it gets the impression of rushing through the city. you only catch people in these quick moments. charlie: the next one is factory smoke. jody: again, just a wonderful image and completely unexpected for degas. i don't think anybody would ever associate this image with degas. he is again capturing the new aspects of life in the city. so the impact of industrialization, here, factory smoke. and there is a beautiful analogy of subject and means, where you think about the ink moving across the plate just the way the smoke moves across the sky. charlie: the next on

charlie: where is that? scooter: whether it be with apparel, the idea of creativity and putting stuff into the world that changes and shapes culture for a positive way. that is his goal. he wants to really, you know, be a positive force in the world in the most significant way possible. culturally, he has shown to be that person. charlie: because of his cultural rate. scooter: and how we see music shifting when he puts stuff out. how we see sneakers becoming the biggest selling sneakers out there, how fashion changes. he is a very significant person. when you have intimate conversations with him, you can't help but walk away feeling like, wow. there is something special there. charlie: you understand how he drives people crazy? scooter: i think he understands. charlie: is that the point? scooter: i can understand kanye to a certain point. only kanye and truly understand kanye. but the point isn't to drive people crazy. everything is art. when people say, hey, everything he is doing is distracting from his mu

charlie: ok 10. the five most important you're knowarch of, obviously we it will be when donald trump talks to paul ryan. i am interested in donald trump's strategy, who is he going to choose for a running mate? who will hillary choose? does donald trump have a serious chance? -- we have seen in recent polls, they are close. have added. -- at it. mark: five, no particular order, how to donald trump make the big decisions of this campaign to perform. the running mate and convention in cleveland, and the debate which will be one of the most watched event of all-time, bigger than rhoda's wedding. is, can donald trump convince people he is ready to be president, qualified to be president? how many people in this room will admit in front of the group, raise your hand if you are voting for donald trump. ok. [laughter] how many people think there are people in this room who will secretly vote for donald trump? raise your hand. [laughter] this may not be be perfect of a graphic to do that. it is his neighbor

his is "charlie charlie: josh is here, the president and ceo of amc networks. the network has made cable-television a destination for high quality, scripted shows. and see made a name for themselves with the critically acclaimed series, mad men, and the other one, "breaking bad." their brands also include ifc and sundance. their expanding boundaries of the cable television industry. he was an early champion of video on demand. for his newest venture, the documentary series, "take five" will premiere on sundance. has another series from airing on may 17. i am pleased to have you here. let's talk specifics. what is "take five."? josh: we have a new streaming service. charlie: hbo does it, hulu does it. josh: that took care of it. it is a streaming service, thank you for explaining. it is called sundance now. arguably perhaps the biggest reservoir in collection of documentaries that man has amassed. charlie: you have curated a collection. that was actually a cable channel called discovery on that idea, way back when. josh: exactly right. it is perhaps the case tha

charlie: thank you for joining us. deborah thank you, charlie. : charlie: we will be right back. stay with us. ♪ ♪ charlie: the political campaign heats up, and joining me is john dickerson of "cbs news" and an anchor of "face the nation." welcome back. john: thank you, charlie. great to be here. charlie: here we have the democrats fighting. bernie sanders does not want to go. he believes what? john: he does not want to go, you are right. he wants his message to be protected here. but he wants that the protected, and now there is a fight over whether he is being railroaded of his moment and his movement. he wants to take the bolts all the way through to california and washington d.c. and he feels , like the system has been stacked against him. so, the question is whether these fights have been roiling, intricate in nevada. it becomes a larger part of his argument, which is the elites have rigged the system in the democratic party, and that meshes with his larger argument that the beat has rigged -- have rigged the economic system. will you keep that fight going, not only to t

charlie: 1877 to 1880. jody: it really gets to this important thing about degas's practices, that he is always looking for new techniques to describe new subjects. as i said, the most pressing of the most urgent subject of the time is the expansion of the city. so he gives us an elegantly dressed man and woman. he has drawn them on the plate. at the 40 prints it, he takes a rag -- but before he prints it, he takes a rag or his fingers and rubs it. the impression of rushing through the city. you only catch people in these quick moments. the next one is factory smoke. jody: again, just a wonderful image and completely unexpected for degas. i don't think anybody would ever associate this image with degas. he is again capturing the new aspects of life in the city. so the impact of industrialization, here, factory smoke. and there is a beautiful analogy of subject and means, where you think about the ink moving across the plate just the way the smoke moves across the sky. charlie: the next one is cap facing her

charlie: i know. but you are doing revealing articles along with bob woodward, in some cases about trump, not clinton. bob: clinton is not as accessible. i have always told clinton sources and advisers, i would welcome a phone call from her every day. trump just makes himself accessible. if you put in a request, and if he is game, it may take under one hour to get him on the phone. with trump, i have been covering him for two years, and even further than that. this is a candidate who lives on media. if you can come to him with the news of the day, he is usually willing to have a conversation. charlie: he's absorbed by media. bob: obsessed. this is someone who grew up politically and professionally in the tabloid culture of new york in the 1980's. i think that is often forgotten. this is someone who knew then how his public image with everything. it was everything for his companies and that is how he sees his brand. charlie: what else do you think he understands about media? bob: i think he understands

charlie: i know. but you are doing revealing articles along with bob woodward, in some cases about trump, not clinton. bob: clinton is not as accessible. i have always told clinton sources and advisers, i would welcome a phone call from her every day. trump just makes himself accessible. if you put in a request, and if he is game, it may take under one hour to get him on the phone. with trump, i have been covering him for two years, and even further than that. this is a candidate who lives on media. if you can come to him with the news of the day, he is usually willing to have a conversation. charlie: he's absorbed by media. bob: obsessed. this is someone who grew up politically and professionally in the tabloid culture of new york in the 1980's. this is someone who knew then how his public image with everything. it was everything for his companies and that is how he sees his brand. charlie: what else do you think he understands about media? bob: i think he understands as bad as one day can get, it is

charlie: thank you for joining us. deborah hersman: thank you, charlie. charlie: we will be right back, stay with us. ♪ ♪ charlie: the political campaign heats up, and joining me is john dickerson of cbs news and an ." hor of "face the nation here we have the democrats fighting. bernie sanders does not want to go. he believes what? john dickerson: you are right, he wants his message to be protected here. ,ut he wants that the protected and now there is a fight over whether he is being railroaded out of his movement. you want to take votes all the way through to california and washington dc. feels like the system has been stacked against him. so the question is whether these ,ights have been roiling intricate in nevada. it becomes a larger part of his argument, which is the elites have rigged the system in the democratic party, and that measured with a larger argument that they have rigged the economic system. will you keep that fight going, not only to the convention but afterwards, or will he put it back in the box and say, we fought the good fight,

>> from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. charlie: we begin with politics. the state department inspector general criticized hillary clinton's e-mail practices. they said she violated government policies using a government account for official business. the news comes as clinton faces renewed personal attacks from donald trump and a primary fight with bernie sanders. joining me is a political correspondent for the washington post. mark halperin. let me again with you. and hows the report say damaging is it for hillary clinton? : the report says she violated state department e-mail practices in a couple of regards. she failed to get approval for this system, private e-mail system ahead of time. int approval would not have granted had the state department officials known all of the ramifications because of security concerns. it also said state department dated handling of e-mail back to previous secretaries of state. that is something the clinton campaign is relying on in its defense. it makes clear, throughout and 83 page report, and i think athing is not too

charlie: 16? jim: when i went to stanford, i went out to college and i went out because it once you go surf and meet girls and stuff like that, but the truth is i wanted to do stuff for disadvantaged kids. the older i get the more i listened to mom at the dinner table waving her finger at us and telling us that we were very lucky to have the education we had and we needed to do some thing about it. we looked at our mom and both of our parents are dead and we think, you know what? we have been really fortunate, we ought to do something about it and i was a civil rights lawyer, i ran the legal defense fund on the west coast, and i basically decided i wanted to work on poor kid issues and it just happened. charlie: that is the biggest part of it, isn't it? jim: it is now, and the truth is we were trying to build aarp for kids. i started another organization called children now which was a policy advocacy group like the children's defense fund. we had no constituency base. you know politicians love to

charlie: choosing actors. tommy: the fun part. charlie: why? tommy: putting the team together, that is the thing we talk about a lot. when you do a show, the show starts at 8:00. between 8:00 and when the show ends, i know they will be standing, how quickly they will move through the moment. the show is to an half hours a day. it is the 10 hours in the dark that matter. one of the things we talk about constantly is try to find the people who can do the job between the lines but let's try to find human beings we want to be around. that takes time. but when you have material that gives the actors so much bloodation and so much and fuel, i'm not always able to say i know who it is, but i'm getting pretty good at identifying when they walk in the room. got this particular company, which is as fine a company that has ever been assembled. we were all trying to put something out there that was unlike what we have done. charlie: let me take you through the characters. george washington. needs sometimes tempering. [laughter] always chris jackson. and an

charlie: what is it? ben: it was the first place en masse that received my music, word for word, note for note. charlie: do you know letter telling? ben: i have -- do you know leonard cohen? ben: i have met him. charlie: have always wanted to meet him. ben: he doesn't even touch the ground. charlie: i know it. ben: he comes into my family's music store on occasion. charlie: what is the hardest thing about this? ben: the hardest thing is now. it is hard not to be somewhat concerned about how it is received. you want it to be heard, but -- charlie: this is the truth, it really is. you have taken this from here, put it here, now you've given it out there. that is what you have done. ben: that's it. now it is up to you. youngster. make your way in the world, good luck. charlie: are you hopeful, or is it happening, that because of the success in places like france and australia, overseas, that experience is now being felt here? ben: that is a big point. what may limit record sales in this day and age may be re

tom: thank you, charlie. as you said, this is the president's 10th trip to asia and it's part of what is become known as the rebalanced asia. which is one of the most important geostrategic initiatives of his presidency. it's rooted in the belief that the future of asia in the united states are tightly tied together going into the 21st century. it involves investment across the board in terms of all elements of national power, diplomatic security, and military. and in terms of his time which is the most important asset that the president has come day in and day out. it is meant to reinforce the leadership role that the united states plays in asia. it is meant to extend the fact that the united states has provided the platform for their social economic development for records of a century. the president came into office believing we were underinvested, and has gone about increasing the investment. the vietnam peace is an important part of the rebalanced. the balance involves a lot more attention and engaging w

charlie: is an honor to have you here. mark: thank you, charlie. charlie: back in a moment, julian barnes. stay with us. ♪ ♪ charlie: julian barnes is here. the "new york times" has said of his writing, if there is a single theme running through barnes' work, it is the elusiveness of truth. the subjectivity of memory. the relativity of all knowledge. he was awarded the booker prize for 2011. his new novel is called "the noise of time." it is a fictionalized account of composer shostakovich's life under stalin. great to see you. let's talk about serious stuff. you grew up in leicester. what does it mean to you? julian: it's incredible. my football club, soccer as you call it, after 65 years of support from me, and never having won anything, finally won the premiership. it's not even david and goliath, it's bigger than that. it has various sort of comic sidebars to it. a lot of festivity has been going on in leicester. it has been famous for two things. the first is the bones of king richard iii were discovered under a municipal carpark. the seco

charlie: thank you for joining us. deborah: thank you, charlie. charlie: we will be right back. stay with us. ♪ ♪ charlie: the political campaign heats up, and joining me is john dickerson, political editor of "cbs news" and an anchor of "face the nation." welcome back. john: thank you, charlie. here we have the democrats fighting. bernie sanders does not want to go. he believes what? john: he does not want to go, you are right. he wants his message to be protected here. he built of movement but he wants that the protected, and now there is a fight over whether he is being railroaded of his moment and his movement. he wants to take the bolts all the way through to california and washington d.c., and he feels like the system has been stacked against him. so, the question is whether these fights have been roiling, intricate in nevada. it becomes a larger part of his argument, which is the elites have rigged the system in the democratic party, and that meshes with his larger argument that the elites have rigged the economic system. will you keep that fight going, not only to th

charlie: same thing? michelle: a reason i really wanted to come back to do broadway again is in theater you are really directed. you really feel like you have a partnership with someone. after a while, after you have been doing this as long as i have and you have, it gets boring to be yourself over and over again. you are limited by your experiences, your processing them, your understanding of them. a great director can really help you look at things from a different angle so you are not repeating yourself. they open up when door and you open up 10 of the windows. all of the sudden in a new territory because someone has, with their experience and intellect, they have taken you in a new direction. that is what makes it exciting again. you grow beyond yourself. charlie: in a play with this kind of confrontation, do you guys, on purpose, avoid each other? in other words, you will not go out and have sunday lunch. jeff: part of it is just me. i have to socialize? charlie: you are spending half of your life wi

charlie: very. i said to president obama, and he has said this, we have the strongest military, we have the strongest economy, the most technological skills, 18 of the top 20 universities, all these things. so i said to him, what could stop us from owning the 21st century? not owning it completely, because it is not a zero-sum game and we should not be -- in favor of an alliance with china. he said to me, our politics. i tend to agree with that. we are not funding science. we are not funding education. we are not doing things that have been part of the american creed. jon: from your lips to god's ears. charlie rose, ladies and gentlemen. [applause] ♪ david: welcome to "bloomberg businessweek." officesthe magazine in new york. how will history judge fed chair janet yellen? trouble in paradise, and a company that might be sitting of the biggest oilfield in america. all that and more ahead on "bloomberg businessweek." ♪ carol: i'm carol massar and i'm here with ellen pollack. you guys run a section

charlie: what about apple? >> others can speak to this, but my impression is that apple is sitting back and waiting. charlie: they have plenty of cash. >> they have plenty of cash, and they are waiting for the kind of maturation to take place, and then they will try to make a move. that's what i assume. i don't know. >> they waited a while with the watch. virtual-reality experiences, one with youtube and one with apple music. the base ofthat -- potential base of people interested in virtual-reality in the iphone users is very high. on theusers are often creative side of the industry's, and early adopters, and i would say having an attachment on an iphone for virtual-reality would be a great thing for everyone, and for virtual-reality in general. ♪ charlie: take a look at this. sir paul mccartney concert in virtual-reality. here it is. clip] ♪ charlie: why is the camera moving that way? >> it is trying to simulate someone moving there had. this, you would look wherever you wanted. they are trying to show you

charlie: exactly. if there is one thing we know about the 2016 campaign, donald trump understands media. john dickerson: and he understands new media. he understands a conversation can take place whether they want that to take place or not. it will happen and social media and is going to get picked up. he has more control over that. and that is not because the gatekeepers are being lazy. charlie: he also has people he would announce for a nomination. i assume that is to satisfy conservatives in the party who had some real problems with them , even those who supported ted cruz. john dickerson: right. that is what he is doing. and normalizing. he is saying i am the nominee, i am doing these sorts of things nominees for president do. forget about things i said in the past. i am a candidate, and i am doing candidate-like things. he is saying, focus on the supreme court. because what you want is a body in the oval office, will name three justices, he said. the race comes down to that, everything else is sec

charlie: wihy? michael: because i was really .ngry9 i felt it had been given to me, then taken away. but in that respect, i got to finish creating "slate," and then i met my wife, and there's a lot of good things. and david remnick has been an excellent editor of "the new yorker." so it all ended up more or less happily. charlie: speaking of magazines, you also say you don't want to write another book, that books are not your best form, that you are a column man, a magazine man. michael: 1200 words is my ideal length, and i will stick to that. charlie: when you finally decided you had to tell people, why did you do that? because it would be obvious? michael: the symptoms do not stay still, but they move pretty slowly. but they have not stayed still, and more people were finding out. also, the people i told were telling other people, and the secret was not going to hold. so i wrote a piece. that's what journalists do. charlie: you are best known for a piece about how hard it was, i think way back whe

charlie: where is that? scooter: whether it be with apparel, the idea of creativity and putting stuff into the world that changes and shapes culture for a positive way. that is his goal. he wants to really, you know, be a positive force in the world in the most significant way possible. culturally, he has shown to be that person. charlie: because of his cultural reach. scooter: and how we see music shifting when he puts stuff out. how we see sneakers becoming the biggest selling sneakers out there, how fashion changes. he is a very significant person. when you have intimate conversations with him, you can't help but walk away feeling like, wow. there is something extremely special there. charlie: you understand how he drives people crazy? scooter: i think he understands. charlie: is that the point? scooter: i can understand kanye to a certain point. i think only kanye can truly understand kanye. but the point isn't to drive people crazy. everything is art. when people say, hey, everything he is doing is dist

>> from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: brett is here. he is a special presidential envoy for the global combs to fight isil. he presley held a number of policy roles on both the obama and busch administrationles. he served as a senior viedors to three ambassadors in bag baghdad. a u.s. navy seal was killed by isil fighters in iraq on tuesday. he was the third american serviceman to die in the country since 2014. meanwhile, in syria is there is a mush to maintain a fragile cease-fire in the wake of recent violence. i am pleased to have brett back at this table. welcome. >> thank you, good to be here. >> give me your sense. this is a huge concern for you, and we are going to talk about many things. where is iraq today? >> charlie, i have been in and out of iraq now the last month, kind of going back and forth to baghdad and beil. not yet in mosul. iraq faces tremendous challenges. let me try it break it down. the president came into office in september of 2014 after eight years of rule by prime minister maliki, his predecessor. it was a de

charlie: cathartic. lucy: often times when somebody dies, people often stop saying their names or they are afraid they will make you more set by -- sad by talking about it. what i have learned is you are thinking about it anyway. saying the person's name or mentioning it is actually connecting. charlie: it is interesting you say that. because i think that people that i have known who have been living with terminal illness, they like to talk about it. they like to talk about it. what they do not like is a sense of we are avoiding this. we cannot talk about this. is there a purpose for you and your life as a doctor from this experience? lucy: sure. you think a couple of different things. one is my empathy for patients and my really wanting to help understand, wanting to understand their values and experience, and help guide them through an illness has been deepened. and then i think, for me it has been meaningful to be engaging in a bigger conversation about dying in america and the ways in which we are he

♪ >> from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: tom brokaw is here. he continues to report for nbc news as a special correspondent. this past weekend he spoke to the graduating class at ole miss. his book on his struggle with cancer is now out on paperback. it is called "a lucky like interrupted, a memoir in hope." i am pleased to have you back at this table. saidot only did that, you that if you were speaking at the university of alabama, you would have to speak and shorter sentences. it is a standard line for me. it went viral and alabama. so actually did radio commentary. it was a joke. alabama i would say the same thing about florida state. i would talk about michigan. used overthing i have the years and i knew as soon as a set that alabama would go nuts. they have lost the last two football games they played against ole miss and they happened to be there so that is what i did it. curtis runs friend a very good department down there. from 25 students to more than 200. they won this past year, the big investigative reporting for work they did in th

charlie rose: did he enjoy that? >> i think he grew very weary of that. >> the broadcaster was benefiting from it. >> the broadcaster was benefiting from it, but everyone felt uneasy about that. we all felt this is not really what we want to be remembered for. charlie rose: so his legacy was? energy, thevity, fact that he became such important figure in the last half of the 20th century. i said this on the morning news the other day. he was parodied on the simpsons. that is 60 years where people know who mike wallace is. i think that was reflected in the new york times op-ed the other day. >> he could probably write a pretty good history of the last half. just based on his interviews. what were we watching? who were the entertainers? who are the politicians? what were the issues? think about it. weaving your way through those interviews, it's a pretty interesting history of most of the century. charlie: morley died this week at age 84. ♪ mark: let's begin with a check of your first word news. prosecutors failed for

him from our studios in new york city this is charlie rose. charlie rose: david brooks is here. he has been a columnist for the new york times since 2003. he is known for tackling big ideas in modern subjects. capitalism and character. he has turned his focus to the 2016 presidential campaign. i am pleased to have him back at this table. isn't it great to have a huge appetite? i don't see anybody who is a small appetite. so you see the other day and they said they are talking about a dilemma is based on a memoir they said the felt they've been stolen from having a life. that is sad. a big life is not to be a celebrity or make a lot of money big life is to be connected to all that there is to say. brooks: so he asked me what would you do if you want in the news. they're people who just held back. charlie rose: they get into things like marriage and children. than david brooks: two thirds of you will be more boring than you are now. there's this famous you curve where people's happiness is high in their 20's and that a bottom 747 which is called having teenage children and that ar

charlie: my son. michael eric dyson: he was forced to say that, encouraged to say that after he delivered. charlie: you don't think his instinct is to speak without fear -- michael eric dyson: of fear about white america, white reprisal, what might happen, misinterpretation, and his reluctance and reticence is sand that america is often a powder trade -- powder keg, and he does not want it to explode. i will say this. race will be interpreted in america. if you leave a vacuum and avoid, the wrong people will rise up to interpret it. we could have used more early on. a intelligence, passion, insight of barack obama on the issues and crises of rice and america -- of race in america. charlie: [indiscernible] michael eric dyson: [indiscernible] and who has been quite vicious and better. cornell west has been in gauging but a nastiness and a kind of unexplained animosity to the president that is personal and uncomfortable in terms of violent imagination. i have no trust with that. i'm talking about princip

♪ announcer: from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: rose." anthony mackie is here. he takes on the role of martin looter king junior along with bryan cranston in the film "all the way." the "hollywood reporter" calls the film a fast-moving portrait s, mackies, -- write plays king with authority and soul. here is the trailer for "all the way." [video clip] anthony mackie: i keep having this dream. a comanche war party searches the house. it is only a matter of time before they call me up to where their knives gleam. >> he's gone. the president? >> an accidental president, that's what they will say. >> i urge you to enact president kennedy's civil rights bill into law. >> that ain't going to be easy, dr. king. >> we will have to hold his feet to the fire. >> we in the senate intent to filibuster this bill. >> if you get in my way, i will crush you. >> this civil rights bill just killed your election chances. government does not do what is right, this will no longer be an option. >> is that a threat? ♪ >> everybody wants power. they think it o

charlie: what did they say? >> so i did the reading, and i kept showing up every time they told me they would touch it again, i canceled plans, took flights, because i didn't want them to see anybody else. i wasn't qualified to do this, i had never done a musical, never saying in front of people. i had to spend time with our director so he could actually teach me how to sing. i was so uncomfortable doing everything except rapping, which i have been doing for most of my life. i was very comfortable doing that, but all of the other components, the dancing, singing, were new to me. fortunately, everybody was very patient with me and decided to not replace me. charlie: always playing both characters? daveed: it was conceived that way. lin said it was because we need to meet these people fresh in the second act, so you want to hopefully have the audience already fallen in love with the actor so you don't have to build a relationship with a new character, you don't have to spend time doing that. charlie: which is the

charlie rose. isrlie: president obama considered one of the greatest communicators to be in the white house. he has drawn comparison to martin luther king jr.. here's a look at his each last year, commemorating the 50th anniversary of bloody sunday. obama: we are well served to renumber that at the time of the marches, many in power condemned, rather than praised them. back then they were called communist, or half breeds or outside agitators. degenerates,ral and worse, they were called everything but the name their parents gave them. their faith was questioned. their lives were threatened. their patriotism, challenged. and yet what could be more american than what happened in this place? charlie: the president has also shown a talent for comedy. he delivered his final white house correspondents dinner speech. here's a look at some of his jokes. president obama: if this material works well, i will use it at goldman sachs next year. earn me some serious tubman's. as you know, "spotlight" is a film ab

charlie: but four years? >> the speed at which the rate of technology happens, if you look at cell phones, we were surprised with the smartphone. we will likely be surprised with this. charlie: there is a thing that i experienced, about how to map the human genome, there will be remarkable expectations. but it is always slower than we expect, then it reaches a certain point, and it sprints forward. >> i think we have reached that point. it is worth saying this year is important in terms of the hardware itself. one of the big challenges with vr is the distribution challenge. not that many people in the world have these in their homes. so you make the films, and who can see these? we are not at the point of saturation in terms of what is needed for people to view this, but this year is a big year. we have a lot of pieces of hardware on the table in front of us, that are going to be distributed to many people. charlie: more software. >> and more and more content. for many years, the problem was distribution and

charlie: yes. and i think his general -- if you had to pick a single trait that has helped him so far, it is strength. mark: and standing up to fox news 10 days. i'm confident he saw it that way. charlie: and belittling his opponents conveyed strength? mark: sure. charlie: the argument is made he has a long way to go, and democrats are confident because that, latinos, the young, that burden is too much. and whatever he gains in terms of white males is not enough. i recognize in the later primaries, one-on-one he did better with women, and places like greenwich. so there is the demographics and electoral comment -- college. mitt romney had 200 plus electoral votes. 271. he has to do better than that. on the demographic site, there is, can he do better than romney did with "republican groups", white man and married women, can he do better there? therefore he would not need to do better with other groups, and can he reach out to the other groups? foundation ofst the clinton world's belief that donald

charlie: thank you for coming. mike: happy memorial day. ♪ charlie: we now turn to asia. earlier this week, the president visited vietnam, where he lifted a decade-old arms embargo. he then headed to the g-7 summit in japan. he plans to make it an historic visit to hiroshima on friday. joining me is david sanger of the new york times. he recently returned from traveling with the president. i am pleased to have him back on this program. thank you for doing this. i think you just got off the plane as we taped this. thank you for coming by. give me an overview of this trip. put it in context. part of it is legacy building, part of it is reminding americans that he is constantly talking about the importance of asia. david: that's right. the two big parts of this trip are the vietnam side, which was what he did the beginning part of the week. which was the first time he had gone to vietnam and was important, because he is trying to wrap vietnam into the overall strategy of the asian pivot. that has been drawing out countries like myanmar, vietnam. where we had diplomatic relat

charlie: what is it? ben: it was the first place en masse that received my music, word for word, note for note. charlie: do you know letter telling? ben: i have -- do you know leonard cohen? ben: i have met him. charlie: have always wanted to meet him. ben: he doesn't even touch the ground. charlie: i know it. ben: he comes into my family's music store on occasion. charlie: what is the hardest thing about this? ben: the hardest thing is now. be somewhatot to concerned about how it is received. -- want it to be heard, but charlie: this is the truth, it really is. you have taken this from here, put it here, now you've given it out there. that is what you have done. ben: that's it. now it is up to you. youngster. make your way in the world, good luck. charlie: are you hopeful, or is it happening, that because of the success in places like france and australia, overseas, that experience is now being felt here? ben: that is a big point. what may limit record sales in this day and age may be recumbent said it,

charlie: yeah. lin: of course they created the financial system and one of the greatest countries in the world were both immigrants. most of the people in the audience, if they are not immigrants, there parents were, their grandparents were. it is an american idea that we forget every 20 years or so. they remember and go, ha! they are delighted to remember. charlie: thank you. remarkable partnership. ♪ ♪ charlie: jonathan groff is here. he plays king george iii in "hamilton." ben brantley calls his performance "delicious." he previously starred in the hbo series "looking." i am pleased to have jonathan groff to the table for the first time. jonathan: i love this table. charlie: the table loves having you here. we turn to "hamilton." why? it has such a hold on all of us. everyone i know who lives in new york is wanting to go and waiting to go. part of the genius of lin-manuel miranda is all there. what is it for you? what makes it so magical? jonathan: it is unlike anything i have ever been a par

♪ >> from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: tom brokaw is here. he was the anchor for nbc nightly news for more than 20 years and he continues to report for nbc news as a special correspondent. this past weekend he spoke to the graduating class at ole miss. he was graduated -- diagnosed with cancer in 2013. his book on his struggle with cancer is now out on paperback. it is called "a lucky life interrupted, a memoir in hope." i am pleased to have you back at this table. you not only did that, you said that if you were speaking at the university of alabama, you would have to speak in shorter sentences. tom: it is a standard line for me. at commencements, i took out the rival of the school. someone actually did radio commentary. it was a joke. if i were alabama i would say the same thing about florida state. if i were in ohio, i would talk about michigan. it is something i have used over the years and i knew as soon as i said it that alabama would go nuts. they have lost the last two football games they played against ole miss and they happened to b

charlie: the more you can let go. jayne: that is right. >> what is thrilling for all of us is to be in a play that is speaking to an audience in such a profound way. it is a response we get afterwards. our audience members say they have never seen anything like this play. people feelt is it, something in a profound way. capturing something about what it means to be alive in america in 2016 in a family. at this moment. it is funny. even if it is not your socioeconomic range, you -- it theo clearly recognizable, family dynamic. and i think people are not used to seeing that in a play. and it is thrilling. it is thrilling to do. >> we're living in a time where the middle class is disappearing , it ist is in some way what is remarkable about the play because you started it four years ago and somehow the play and the world have merged at the absolute right moment. charlie: were you thinking in terms of politics? no.hen: i do think there's something about the way that politicians are possessed with tapping into the fears of

it's charlie rose. >> from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: we begin this evening with politics. a report delivered to congress yesterday, the state department's inspector general criticized hillary clinton's e-mails, saying clinton violated government policies in using a private e-mail account as secretary of state. the next are asking why she did not seek permission to use it and why she refused to cooperate with the inspector general's investigation. clinton has refused to respond. at a rally yesterday, donald trump capitalized on the news. mr. trump: she is as crooked as they come. she had a little bad news today, as you know. some reports came down that were not too good. not so good. the inspector general general's report, not good. charlie: the fbi's investigation continues. clinton said she would be willing to sit for an interview. the news also comes as bernie sanders closes in on hillary clinton's lead in california. joining us, a political reporter who focuses on clinton, and from washington, david lee myers of -- steven le

charlie: what does that mean? >> i'm excessively thinking about it mind and day and cannot sleep and have dreams about it and make up and move the night, because it is my first time on stage. i was terrified. up until two weeks ago i have been terrified. charlie: but you are comfortable now? >> yes. i think, no matter what because it is the very first production in.involved i'm going to have nerves. i'm never going to be completely comfortable. charlie: but you always wanted to go to stage, but wait until you were 21? >> yes. because i did not train, and even though i don't think you need to be a good actor necessarily, i think the theater, the technical side of it is a much weaker part of the performance. and what you deliver every night. and to not know how to breathe or project or even just make a line work in 100 different ways, you would be a bit lost in a play. do it whent want to i was too young. charlie: making a line work in a hundred different ways. >> you can. give me ann you example? any example that c

charlie: off-camera? mr. mackie: so he can sit off camera and do his lines and make my performance better. you don't have that experience with actors that have a tense of his career. of his have a 10th career. charlie: take a look at this. to go back to my people and tell them that this president is committed to civil rights. and that this ill even without voting rights will still be a with no further change. if i cannot do that, i will lose their faith. and in their despair, i do not know what will happen. >> is that a threat? riots anymoret than you do. but, in order to avoid that type of situation, i need to be able to deliver meaning -- meaningful reform. it is a really good movie. i am proud of it. charlie: will this give people an insight into the fact that there can be, if there is a will, for people who want to work together that represent different constituencies, king on the one hand representing importantly the african-american constituency in his role as the civil rights leader. and for johnson, l

>> this is charlie rose. brett is here. he previously held a number of policy roles in both the obama and bush minute -- administrations. continue -- they're battling to stay in office over mass protest. he was the third american servicemen to die 2014. meanwhile in syria there is a push to maintain a cease-fire. talk about all of this i am pleased to have brett back. >> thank you. charlie: where is a rack today? i've been traveling around the region. barak faces tremendous challenges. here is a guy that came into office. it was it democratic transition. oilhe time, the price of was $400. every single drop of oil, iraq loses about a billion dollars a year. you get a sense of the 12th he has to work. what he is trying to do is implement some pretty far-reaching reforms. tectricity terrorists -- ariffs. amongs actually popular the population. what you have in the country is a kind of a kind of of people against the status quo from the bottom up. not against the political establishment. they cannot get enacted. the population

charlie: thank you for coming. mike: happy memorial day. ♪ charlie: we now turn to asia. earlier this week, the president visited vietnam, where he lifted a decade-old arms embargo. he then headed to the g-7 summit in japan. he plans to head to hiroshima on friday. joining me is david sanger of the new york times. i am pleased to have him back on this program. thank you for doing this. i think you just got off the plane as we taped this. thank you for coming by. give me an overview of this trip. part of it is legacy building, part of it is reminding americans that he is constantly talking about the importance of asia. david: that's right. the two big parts of this trip are the vietnam side, which was the first time he had gone to vietnam and was important, because he is trying to wrap vietnam into the overall strategy of the asian pivot. that has been drawing out countries like myanmar, vietnam. but we have not really deepened the relationship. to try to get vietnam, the philippines, others in the region to participate in this effort to jointly contain the chinese without

>> cityr studios in new york this is charlie rose. rose: morley safer, a friend of a longtime colleague died on thursday at his home in manhattan. of death was pneumonia. he was 84. safer was the longest-serving correspondent in 60 minutes history. for five decades he produced at hundred 19 reports. he traveled more than 200,000 miles a year. he exposed fraud and investigate a crime. he chronicled a time of change in america. it was in his coverage of the vietnam war as a young correspondent that he first made a name for himself. he showed a marine setting a hut on fire with a cigarette lighter. the broadcast almost single-handedly ushered in the living room wars. up becauseack this had an impact on the man's life? safer: it is the most important story. that was who produced suzanne sinclair of eric severance show. decided at the beginning i was not convinced that he was innocent. because the court said he was guilty. there was a lot of funny stuff in that trial. i said let's assume he's guilty. let's go out assuming that justice happ

charlie: thank you for coming. mike: happy memorial day. ♪ asia.e: we now turn to earlier this week, the president visited vietnam, where he lifted a decade-old arms embargo. he then headed to the g-7 summit in japan. he plans to head to hiroshima on friday. joining me is david sanger of the new york times. i am pleased to have him back on this program. thank you for doing this. i think you just got off the plane as we take this. -- taped this. thank you for coming by. give me an overview of the strip. -- of this trip. part of it is legacy building, part of it is reminding americans that he is constantly talking about the importance of asia. david: that's right. the two big parts of this trip are the vietnam side, which was the first time he had gone to vietnam and was important, because he is trying to wrap vietnam into the overall strategy of the asian pitted. -- pivo. t/ . that has been drawing out countries like myanmar, vietnam. but we have not really deepened the relationship. to try to get vietnam, the phi