,t sounded like this young lady that george mcgovern would win the election. he may be carried three states. they talked about a protesters, the anti-american sentiment. you had to filter that stuff out. even though you had a guy on the program the other morning married to a famous actress. i have a different word i will not share in public for that individual. [applause] hayden and jane fonda did not help our cause. in fact, they played jane's recorded message for 30 days and i will never forget when she talked about how these are poor innocent people. they were pows in north vietnam that refused to meet with her. she never came to south vietnam it are ending statement was go to bed crying every night thinking of the damage we have done to these poor innocent people. i said really? i know she has apologized and i will leave it at that but we talk about vietnam veterans being recognized today because we didn't start the war, we served. each and everyone here today and those around the world that wore the uniform during that time should be applauded and thanked

mcgovern for mccarthy but historically mccarthy and mcgovern represent the critical voice of mainstream politics that is the critical debate over policy. >> comment on the impact that we are here in dallas for worth about $20 billion of weapons of arms went to the middle east had to get around that? >> president eisenhower was right there is a military industrial complex so why would you wait until three days before? but he performed a service and certainly they exercise influence not as much today as it did in the '50s simply because look at the role of defense in the proportion of the federal budget is significantly smaller than that was in terms of total gdp it is significantly smaller. >> so the president of general dynamics has a phone call to the oval office has is called put through before ours but it is not just to point to one factor to say i know how we got here this does not apply to your question this some take that regard to israel i know how we got there because the library -- the lobby was hijacked it has influence it is wrong to cite one explanation there are multiple ex

george mcgovern for as modern as he got in 1972, the also inspired an entire generation of democrats to enter the field. in the next year in 1974, and it was helped out by the watergate scandal, democrats took law hold of the house in a new coalition mcgovern helped build. you don't always have to win something like this in order to win long-term, and i think there may be something to people feeling a little encouraged now. mike: i think it is clear that the democratic party wants to take advantage of this energy and this movement that he has built as much as possible. the big question is, is bernie sanders going to be a good democrat going forward? keep in mind, he has not been a democrat for his entire political career. i think to the extent that he is willing to play the part of a team now, he will get a lot of cooperation from democrats who are eager to tap the influence he now has, but it will be a two-way street obviously. you heard that in wahhabist and grab all the -- you heard that in what congressman grijalva said. this could be a very happy relationship going forward, but

george mcgovern for as modern as , the also1972 inspired an entire generation of democrats to enter the field. and itnext year in 1974, was helped out by the watergate democrats took law hold of the house in a new coalition mcgovern helped build. you don't always have to win something like this in order to win long-term, and i think there may be something to people feeling a little encouraged now. i think it is clear that the democratic party wants to take advantage of this energy and this movement that he has built as much as possible. the big question is, is bernie sanders going to be a good democrat going forward? keep in mind, he has not been a democrat for his entire political career. to the extent that he is willing to play the part of a team now, he will get a lot of cooperation from democrats who are eager to tap the influence he now has, but it will be a two-way street obviously. you heard that in wahhabist and grab all the -- you heard that in what congressman grijalva said. this could be a very happy relationship going forward, but at this point, that is not at all certain. s

we don't have a youth the-- a george mcgovern and i know both of those guys lost in either became president, but i think historically eugene mccarthy and mcgovern represent the sort of critical voice in mainstream politics a critical debate over policy. >> before we open up to the audience i would like you to comment on the impact of the defense industry. we are here in dallas-fort worth with a lot of major defense contractors just in the last year about $20 million in weapons arms with the middle east. what role does that play and how can you get around that? >> president eisenhower was bright. there is a military complex in the great question about president eisenhower is why did you wait until three days before to tell us about this problem, but he performed a service in identifying the problem and certainly the military complex exercises influence. it doesn't exercise as much influence today as it did back in the 1950s of the because if you look at the role of defense in proportion of spending with the federal budget is significant and smaller than it was in the 1950s and the percentage

and we got people like william westmoreland, very hawkish guy, with george mcgovern. i got to know them both very well. that made sort of a message. and so we separated the war from the warrior and when these guys and gals coming back from vietnam the veterans said this is not going to happen to these people. the public by and large did not support particularly the war in iraq as it went on. nobody took it out on the veterans. that is what the vietnam veterans did. by the way, a lot of them were our kids. they would follow their fathers -- >> absolutely. absolutely true. >> and in terms of your generation of veterans, there were some who became activists because of it. and the vast majority just went on to live their lives. but a stereotype began to develop of vietnam veterans as half crazy when they came home. and it's a stereotype that has continued on to this generation of veterans. i would like to -- both of you to talk about that stereotype and how real is it. >> you have to remember that vietnam veterans invented the internet, al gore. we can't all be crazy. cra

so we got westmoreland with george mcgovern. and i got to know them very well. so that made sort of a message. so we separated the war from the warrior. and when these guys and gals coming back from vietnam -- the vietnam veterans said, this is not going to happen to these people. the public, by and large, did not support particularly the war in iraq, especially as it went on. but nobody took it out on the veterans. and that's what the vietnam veterans did. and by the way, a lot of them were our kids. you know, they would follow their fathers -- >> absolutely. >> yeah. >> that's absolutely true. and in terms of your generation of veterans, there were some who became activists because of it. and there are -- the vast majority just went on to live their lives. but a stereotype began to develop of vietnam veterans as half crazy when they came home. and it is a stereotype that has continued on to this generation of veterans. i'd like both of you to talk about that stereotype and how real is it? >> he will with, you have to remember that vietnam veteran invented the

after humphrey lost to nixon, senator george mcgovern set up a commission to rethink the rules. >> to rely on primaries rather than party insiders to select the delegates. mcgovern mastered the rules so well that he mastered them in 1972. >> i accept your nomination. >> reporter: but two embarrassing followed. mcgovern clobbered nixon and reagan in 1982. so the democratic party reconsidered the rules again in 1982 creating superdelegates. >> there was a desire among party leaders to in effect i think create a check on the possibility that a movement candidate would surge into the nomination without support from the party mainstay. >> reporter: superdelegates helped walter mondale eek out the nomination despite local protests by the outsider candidate reverend jesse jackson. >> in cincinnati, we have 27% of the vote and no delegates because 30% threshold. >> reporter: in exchange for his support, jackson demanded delegates reflect the votes of the people more directly. >> what jesse jackson did in 1994 but especially after 1988 was win changes in the rules that essentially ended any wi

. >> don't forget the 1972 election, when the party veered left and nominated george mcgovern. and there was a lot of talk when the democratic party is finished it's too split apart. didn't happen. >> you know, you have to bet that the two parties facing, remain a two-party system. but there is some danger, occasionally the party splits so deeply that it disappears. for example, in the 1850s, the predecessor to the republican party, the whigs, split apart and that was the founder of the republican party with lincoln coming on. and keep in mind, rachel, whether you're paul ryan with his demeanor and his beliefs, who doesn't like trump, the dislike of trump doesn't match their hatred of hillary clinton. and trump's best argument is listen, guys, whether you like me or not do you want me or do you want hillary? and in the end, insofar as the republicans become united that is what will unite them. and i said before it's a mistake to underestimate trump. he can win. i'm not predicting he will win. but he is showing the kind of strength that very few people expected. and he is on to

they were put in there to rig the system to make sure that people like jimmy carter and george mcgovern, people from the grassroots couldn't get nominated and that's when the put the pressure on so you're constantly permanently behind. imagine if george bush -- we had super delegates in the republican party, jeb bush would have been so far ahead, right? and doesn't matter, still way ahead -- >> jeb would have gone straight to cleveland. >> exactly. that's the problem. a lot of different pressures on sanders, plus he has another thing. what i call the fbi primary. why does he want to get out anytime before we hear if we do hear, and we should soon, on what the res resolution of the nib -- the attorney general said there's no timeline on it. it's hard for the average person to believe the obama administration would allow anything to -- >> it's not just that. but here's the thing. if they do what i believe they will do, did he send a signal on mike wallace? she is isn't. if they do that and it comes out the fbi recommended something, we will have a minisaturday night massacre. >> i will sa

. >> one word for you, george mcgovern. you don't nominate somebody so far left you got killed in a national landslide. bernie sanders, the polls are probably not representative of what would happen in november. >> donald trump is not going to become president for a number of reasons. you cannot have a president who has insulted latinos and mexicans. who has insulted muslims, who every day is insulting women in one way or another. who has insulted african americans in a very profound way. people sometimes forget that before mr. trump was running for president, he was one of the leaders of the so-called bertha movement. that was a very ugly effort to dele jit myself t-- delejitimiz the presidency of the first african american president. >> well, talking about mr. trump in that manner since the race started. as far as, he was the first one to point out the bertha movement on the stump. and how mr. trump, to take away the legitimacy of barack obama. i don't think he is doing anything for the secretary, just pointing out the fa

trump could find himself in the position of george mcgovern in 1972. i mean, for the life of him, he could not get anybody to be his running mate for what looked like a lost cause in that election. he lobbied hard to get ted kennedy who said no. then he asked hubert humphrey. he asked walter mondale. they all said no way. finally, tom eagleton, the missouri senator said yes, but then he had to quit days later when it was revealed he suffered depression and electric shock treatment. after that, a whole bunch of others were asked, and they all said no. and finally, kennedy in-law sergeant shriver said yes. but by some accounts, he was the ninth, tenth, or 11th choice and it became a running joke and it underscored how doomed mcgovern's campaign was. arguably, is it conceivable the same thing could happen to donald trump? >> it's conceivable. that's a great history lesson. i'm thrilled that you reminded us of all of that. it's one of the great stories in american politics. i don't think donald trump is at that stage yet. i don't think he's going to have t

mcgovern. it is harder in the house because of redistricting and gerrymandering. in the senate with statewide raises and donald trump as anchor, you could see people like john mccain lose seats. >> way more republicans have to defend seats than democrats. >> when you hear trump on fox saying that was a suggestion, banning muslims, does that raise concerns? is he backtracking for general election? >> it doesn't. certainly policies that are an end and certain that are means. pro-life, that's an end we want to achieve. the muslim ban was never an end. >> does he want a ban on muslims? >> that's never been his policy, keeping muslims out. policy goal is to protect the borders. that's the means he suggested to that end. >> i don't understand, is he going to pursue, maybe we don't know this, do you think he is going to pursue a temporary ban on muslims entering the u.s. or do you think he is not? >> he is going to suggest that, say this is what needs to be done to secure the border. i assume he would

george mcgovern would be spinning in his grave right now when you look at how far left the party has gone because of bernie sanders. if he stays in there to this point on they have a whole lot more unifying to do than republicans do right now. that ticks them off. >> i am not inventing these numbers. it's from today's "new york times" cbs news poll showing she is getting 72% of the democratic vote. at the same time eight years ago obama was only getting 60. >> i'm talking about the difference between the eight years of a limping along economy -- >> you can go with your gut. i prefer to go with math. >> the fbi digging into hillary's issues and so forth. there is a lot more there. and the chaos that's been out there. you don't want to go back to 1968. diane feinstein didn't want to either. she said so the other day. that's what happened when all the peaceful people went out in protest. they got nixon. >> i think what you are seeing right now is the difference between people who like to go with their gut and people who like to look at math and statistics. what wins elections in my expe

mcgovern couldn't get anybody to run with him. there's almost no history of people saying no when the party has a decent chance of gaining the white house. right now polls are narrowing. it's quite possible he's the next president of the united states. it's really hard to say no if you're a senator or whatever to that when you're offered to go on the ticket. the problem is you have to live with yourself. if you believe in your heart that he's tempermentally unsuited, he's a con man and there's a considerable amount of evidence he is, you have to ask do i put party and personal ambition over the constitution and the country. >> that's been the question. how many republicans will have reservations that could keep them from saying yes? when you look at it, what names make sense to you? >> honestly you express skepticism in newt gingrich, he's been loyal. donald trump said he's not worry about the business and appealing the general. he wants to work the heeill. >> i get it. >> maybe i put my money on gingrich. we're out of time. it's

mcgovern. half of them voted for democratic congressman. so, americans are capable of splitting tickets if they want to. and in this context, i think turnout is going to be important. we had surge-increasing surge of turnout during the george w. bush presidency, including the 2000 and 2008 elections which were a repudiation of the bush presidency. we have had declining turnout during the obama presidency, particularly of democrats, but not any surge of republican turnout. i have been of the view that the fact that the republican turnout was a lot bigger in the primaries this year and caucuses than democratic turnout has, perhaps, some significance for the general election. and others in the 538.com website, for example, have pooh-poohed that and said in 1976, it didn't. i don't think that's relevant. i think, i think it may still have something, but i simply don't feel i have any confidence how it is going to work out there. one more point i should have made in my initial presentation, i mentio

mcgovern, you got to stand up for the guy. and politically speaking in 1964 when nelson rocka feller and george romney abandoned barry goldwater that was the end of him. richard nixon who stood up there and was for goldwater all the way wound up as the president. >> what is the nominee's job? >> sure. no question. i think donald trump will reach out and is talking to people, but it's got to be a two way street and these other folks are leaders of the republican party. >> all we've heard this week is we don't need a unified republican party. i'm with you. >> i expected senator rubio to begin the interview saying i talked to donald trump the other, he called me the other day. george bush reached out to ford and then he put george bush on the ticket. >> that's not donald trump's style. >> if you want party unity it needs to be. >> paul ryan came out in that interview last week and said what he said about not being ready to support donald trump and there were those that said donald trump should have called him. >> one of the thing

then, you had george mcgovern losing in a landslide in 1972. jimmy carter lost in a landslide in 1980. came up with the notion of superdelegates, the thinking being that participatory democracy is a great thing, we want the but theys to weigh in, wanted present >umed political s who would elect someone electable. that's how we came up with superdelegates. host: and senator sanders is insisting that he will have 50% plus 1% of the pledged delegates, saying that would earn him the right to be the democratic nominee. mark: that's his argument, that's what he says. it is worth pointing out a couple of things, because you've your a lot of discussion out there. it is worth noting, to the extent that folks care about those things, that hillary clinton has a very substantial lead in the popular vote, about 3 million over bernie sanders. in 2008, barack obama won the primary vote by a whisker, but of won the majority superdelegates that put him over the top. sanders' argument is that folks will, would, and should come his way am i and he thinks he can w

>> i think democrats will pull together even nominating wackiest candidates like george mcgovern. so do the republicans. mr. trump made a habit during the campaign as aabrasive and insulting as he possibly could be. i think he will i hope, go on apology tour. apologize to senator mccain. apologizing to senator cruz. neil: he is not going to do that. >> maybe be a stronger bigger person. neil: he is not going to do that. >> you -- may i ask you, sir, you're the interviewer why do you think he will not do that? neil: i ask the questions here. i will talk to you later. [laughter]. i'm kidding. all i'm saying though on this is, that anger is palpable. lindsey graham adding his voice to all the others skipping out on convention and not go. that is certainly should cover that. that is a big deal. we heard just a few minutes ago, then bernie sanders sent a letter to the dnc, don't stack the deck at the philly convention. he is long bemoaned the role of superdelegates disproportionally the affecting the outcome of this vote, yet that goes unreported. >> well, that is not reported because

mcgovern in 1972 who couldn't win and jimmy carter who won in 1976 but couldn't govern. in each case, nominees thrust forward from outside of the center of the party. the superdelegates were created after 1980 to give the party leaders a greater say and put a barrier in the way of candidates precisely like bernie sanders who were kind of a grass movements candidate that the party leaders had questions about their viability and the general election and governing. they're doing exactly what they were designed to do. the question whether bernie sanders would be a general election candidate than hillary clinton is very much an open one. really, no one has spent any money raising the question about bernie sanders if he was the nominee. in particular, it would increase spending by 40 pus by the highest level of a share of our economy since world war ii. i think after $200 million of ads making americans aware of that and the taxes that go along with it he might look very different as a general election nominee than today. >> sanders said if he is not the person picked as the n

mcgovern. half of them voted for democratic congressman. so, the americans are capable of splitting tickets if they want to. in this context, i think turnout is going to be important. we had a surge-increasing surge of turnout during the george w. bush presidency, including the repudiation of the bush presidency. we have had declining turnout during the obama presidency, particularly of democrats, but not any surge of republican turnout. i have been of the view that the fact of republican turnout was a lot bigger in the primaries this year and caucuses that -- than democratic turnout has, perhaps, some significance for the general election. and others in the 538.com website, for example, have pooh-poohed that and said in 1976 it didn't. i don't think that's relevant. i think, i think it may still have something, but i don't feel i have any confidence how it is going to work out there. in my initial presentation, i mentioned the rules for both parties. if you look at if the democrats had rules l

i worked for george mcgovern and jerry brown. a lot of what bernie sanders is saying has very real merit. that you would just cast hillary clinton as some villain --does anybody doubt that if she were elected she would nominate someone to the supreme court that would overturn citizens united in a heartbeat? she is not perfect. electable eminently and would do things for bernie sanders supporters, many of which they would want her to do. of course she would. host: let's listen to senator sanders tuesday night after he won in oregon but lost in kentucky. >> it can do the right thing and open its doors and welcome into the party people who are prepared to fight for real economic and social change. [applause] that is the democratic party i want to see. bringing in people who are willing to take on wall street. [applause] on corporate greed. [applause] and to take on a fossil fuel industry which is destroying this planet. [applause] i say to the leadership of the democratic party, open the door. but the people in. host: that is what t

mcgovern. people they never thought would lose the election. i think that is the potential at least for the senate. it is harder in the house because of redistricting and gerrymandering. in the senate with statewide raises and donald trump as anchor, you could see people like john mccain, people you never expected, lose their seats. >> way more republicans have to defend seats than democrats. >> when you hear trump on fox saying that was a suggestion, banning muslims, does that raise concerns? is he backtracking for general election? >> it doesn't. here is the thing. you have certain policies that are an end and certain policies that are a means. pro-life, that's an end we want to achieve. the muslim ban was never an end. >> does he want a ban on muslims? >> that's never been his policy, keeping muslims out. policy goal is to protect the borders. that's the means he suggested to that end. >> i don't understand, is he going to pursue, maybe we don't know this, do you think he is going to pursue

mcgovern. half of them voted for democratic congressman. so, the americans are capable of splitting tickets if they want to. in this context, i think turnout is going to be important. we had a surge-increasing surge of turnout during the george w. bush presidency, including the 2006 and 2008, a repudiation of the bush presidency. we have had declining turnout during the obama presidency, particularly of democrats, but not any surge of republican turnout. i have been of the view that the fact of republican turnout was a lot bigger in the primaries this year and caucuses that -- than democratic turnout has, perhaps, some significance for the general election. and others in the 538.com website, for example, have pooh-poohed that and said in 1976 it didn't. i don't think that's relevant. i think, i think it may still have something, but i don't feel i have any confidence how it is going to work out there. in my initial presentation, i mentioned the rules for both parties. if you look at if the demo

created after 1980 amids frustration with democratic party leaders that produced george mcgovern in 1972 that couldn't win and jimmy carter in 1976 that won and couldn't govern. yes, he is right, they are doing what they were designed to do. that function may be obsolete, i would not be surprised to see a peace settlement between sanders and clinton forces to entrench the roll of superdelegates in the process. they now cast 15% of all delegate votes, and that may be rolled back. >> the numbers, gloria, on the screen, look at hillary clinton's numbers, bernie sanders' numbers, you see overall delegate county, 2178 for hillary clinton, 1400 for bernie sanders, but if you look at the pledge delegates, she has 1666, he has 1359. but she has 512 superdelegates to his 41. can he convince some of the 500 superdelegates to flip? >> does anyone other than me think it is a little ironic that bernie sanders, the insurgent candidate, is going to the superdelegates who are the party insiders and saying to the party insiders, by the way, change your mind right now because the process stinks and you ne

one of the problems george mcgovern had, he asked a number of people to be his running mate and they all turned him down. many of them were close friends he served with in the senate. for a variety of reasons they didn't want to be on the ticket. so i mean, if you think about vice presidents and vice presidential candidates have done, you know pretty well in their later careers, representative ryan is now the speaker of the house. edmond muskie lost in '68, became isn't of state. so you have able people, have opportunities. i think a calculation about how likely the ticket is to be successful and also how you feel about working with the person at the top of the ticket, the very much of a personal relationship. the last six vice presidents have been able to achieve very good personal relationships with the president. if the personal relationship goes south early on, it's not going to be a very fun four years for either principle. so the people have to really work at it as well. i think you have to take that into account in deciding whether or not you want to put your name forward. >>

george mcgovern for as modern as he got in 1972, the also inspired an entire generation of democrats to enter the field. in the next year in 1974, and it was helped out by the watergate scandal, democrats took law hold of the house in a new coalition mcgovern helped build. you don't always have to win something like this in order to win long-term, and i think there may be something to people feeling a little encouraged now. mike: i think it is clear that the democratic party wants to take advantage of this energy and this movement that he has built as much as possible. the big question is, is bernie sanders going to be a good democrat going forward? keep in mind, he has not been a democrat for his entire political career. i think to the extent that he is willing to play the part of a team now, he will get a lot of cooperation from democrats who are eager to tap the influence he now has, but it will be a two-way street obviously. you heard that in wahhabist and grab all the -- you heard that in what congressman grijalva said. this could be a very happy relationship going forward, but

mcgovern. half of them voted for democratic congressman. so, the americans are capable of splitting tickets if they want to. in this context, i think turnout is going to be important. we had a surge-increasing surge of turnout during the george w. bush presidency, including the 2006 and 2008, a repudiation of the bush presidency. we have had declining turnout during the obama presidency, particularly of democrats, but not any surge of republican turnout. i have been of the view that the fact of re

mcgovern. half of them voted for democratic congressmen. so americans are capable of splitting tickets if they want to. and in this context i think turnout is going to be imported we had surged turnout during the george w. bush presidency including the 2006 and eight elections which were a repudiation of the bush presidency. we've had declining turnout during the obama presidency, particularly democrats but not in a surge of republican turnout. i have been of the view that the fact of republican turnout was a lot bigger in the primaries this year and caucuses that democratic turnout has perhaps some significance for the general election. and others in the 538.com website, for example, have pooh-poohed that and said in 1976 it didn't get i don't think that's relevant. i think, i think it may still have something by simply don't feel like i have any confidence. one more point i should make him a initial presentation. i mentioned the rules working for both parties. if you look at the democrats had

or a repeat of the 1972 debacle when a marathon battle over george mcgovern's vice presidential pick meant mcgovern's acceptance speech didn't begin until after 2:00 a.m.? >> sunrise service. >> or will it be a carbon copy of 1980, the year "dallas" dominated the tv ratings, "the empire strikes back" was a force at the box office and the democrats were falling apart. the democratic primary that year pitted a favorite of the left, ted kennedy -- >> today i formally announce that i'm a candidate for president of the united states. >> -- against president jimmy carter, the unpopular incumbent facing one crisis after another. from the iran hostage standoff to high unemployment. kennedy trailed carter by 700 delegates going into the convention, but still took his fight to the convention floor, where he lost a challenge to party rules that bound delegates on the first ballot. only then did kennedy concede defeat in a speech many consider the best of his career. >> the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream shall never die. >> but after carter's acceptance speec

he was on the ticket with george mcgovern in 1972 before he was dropped off the ticket and replaced by sargent shriver. massachusetts in the district of columbia, a landslide for richard nixon in 1972. round rock, texas. good evening alex. caller: thank you for connecting me. i would like to preface by saying i'm a member of the socialist party. i don't currently support the mainstream race. this race is very telling about how the american public perceives outliers, such as the democrats and the republicans. despite polling, bernie sanders is still persisting even though he is losing. and outsiders like donald trump are also on the rise and still winning votes over and over. while i don't support any of the candidates in the race it says a great deal about how the american people are approaching politics and how the establishment politicians are not welcome. i think in the future it will be very evident and third-party elections, such as the socialist party, the green party and libertarian party coming to the forefront and how that will affect the outcome of the elections. host: i want

but sanders, in the way i always think about george mcgovern in 1972 really challenging that i'm a commanding -- challenging the nominating process, you see sanders talking about the pledged delegates. it is not about those party leaders and the party brass. they described it as the tangled web between bill clinton , hillary clinton, their personal lives, the clinton foundation, money that might have gone to friends of the clinton family, and also the ongoing investigation by the fbi and hillary clinton's e-mails, and of course there are questions about benghazi. aest: kentucky's primary is prime example of how the clinton family legacy, which usually has been such a boost, that was always bill clinton's heart. now it is not so much a political factor. you don't see the clinton legacy from the 90's being an overwhelming force in changing the minds of democratic voters in 2016 and it is because of the way president clinton isn't connecting with all of these audiences. sometimes you watch a shaky reception on the campaign trail. the constant headlines about different clinton issues and controve

so they have to learn the lesson perhaps the way mcgovern learned a lesson. george willis said let's have him lose in 50 states, why not guam, puerto rico and the district of columbia too. >> and will "the wall street journal" editorialize also? >> the "wall street journal" has not endorsed a candidate since herbert hoover, and we will not repeat that mistakes. >>> thank you all very much. >>> next on gps, if you thought segregation in america was a thing of the past, you would be dead wrong. i will give you the data when we come back. it's true what they say. technology moves faster than ever. the all-new audi a4, with apple carplay integration. it's more than a nit's reliable uptime. and multi-layered security. it's how you stay connected to each other and to your customers. with centurylink you get advanced technology solutions, including an industry leading broadband network, and cloud and hosting services - all with dedicated, responsive support. with centurylink as your trusted technology partner, you're free to focus on growing your business. centuryli