and take on paul ryan. you didn't see him challenge paul ryan in his stump speech tonight when he was at his rally. you know, he released a statement saying we're going to agree to disagree. and donald trump moved on. and so i think we're seeing -- i know we always say this -- a different donald trump than the one that would have taken to twitter, because he's not running against anybody anymore. >> no twitter tirade but a statement that a traditional politician, but what about the rest of the campaign? how are they reacting? >> i think tonight at a rally our sarah murray reported that while trump didn't say anything, corey lewandowski was gaggling to reporters off-camera, and reporters were asking him whether this was a slap in the face to donald trump, and he said, look, there's the leader of the republican party. and he pointed to donald trump. it's not paul ryan. it's donald trump. >> who is it? who is it? >> that's a big question. it depends on which vision you embrace, and i don't think this is an arg

paul ryan is in a tough place. he basically continues to hold this position not endorsing donald trump and he risks the wrath of a lot of republican voters who voted for trump being upset at him. it is a no-win situation. it is possible paul ryan comes on board but i don't think you'll see the mitt romneys or the bush clan get on board either tomorrow or october or november. >> mark murray, thank you as always. hallie jackson was inside that briefing room. before we get to hallie, i do want to note for our viewers at home, you saw a number of the speakers inside that conference room there wearing that big purple ribbon. we can tell you that the purple ribbon is in memory of victims of opioid abuse and the bulk of that news conference was devoted to legislation talking about efforts to curb opioid abuse in this country. we know that it's the leading cause of injury-related death for folks between 35 and 54 and a lot of conversation against the backdrop of what we are watching play out in chanhassen, minnesota, in th

i'm paul ryan. for every nasty tweet you tweeted out bt me over six months, i'm going to tell the rules committee to kill your stupid, idiotic bills every day. they are never going to see the light of day. maybe you can find somebody -- >> you're sounding like donald. >> whoever the rules committee chairman is will say that to donald trump. gu go ahead, show me how powerful you are. >> you're using the very system that has lied to the base, that has cheated the american public, that has -- >> i have a great idea, donald. why don't you hold one of those big rallies. ville dinner with my rules committee chairman. >> you play the washington inside game and i play the outside game. guess what happens when you're up for reelection? >> your bills don't pass. >> it doesn't matter. i'll get the congress. >> i have been elected in jainsville now since 1998. democrats have been elected president in my district. i'm going to keep winning. >> you're not going to keep winning. >> we gerrymandered the system so b

she's covering house speaker paul ryan. it's a wild scene. we've seen folks with -- at one point saw bag pipes and there was a coffin. what are those folks doing there this morning? >> reporter: well, let's take a walk and we'll show you. we're outside rnc headquarters and here's where the protesters are. i'll have our camera man paul show you. they are from ultnited we dream. they are trying to make a stand or show their voice here. they tried to deliver a fake coffin to the rnc. you can see it behind the shot. if you look down there's more members of the media back that way. if you come back this way, there's also to give you a sense of what kind of circus is, there's a group of bag pipers playing, they have shown up and they are sort of giving a performance if you will outside the rnc. there are a couple of trump supporters here. there's one gentleman wearing a make america great again shirt. so it is a circus unsurprisingly outside the rnc. we should note that the members of the media seem to outnumber the protesters that are here. when y

this is donald trump and paul ryan. while we were honest about our few differences we recognize that there are also many important areas of common ground. sounded like a diplomatic communique following a summit meeting going on. there are clear difference business tween these two men. >> it was definitely carefully worded. the message was unity. i am pleased to see speaker ryan try to join the rest of his party. you had camccain come out and s republican leaders would be foolish, a very strong word, not to listen to voters who send a clear message in every cnn exit poll that they feel betrayed by the republican party. john mccain understands the republican party does not exist if they don't have voters. to see speaker ryan come over to the dick cheney point of view he is almost there. very encouraging step for future of the republican party and for this election. >> do you think he he's softening his stance? paul ryan clearly disagrees with him on this. one he announced the ban on muslims coming the united states and th

>> well, i would say paul ryan. i would really think that's. >> trump last night striking an unusual conciliatory tone towards ryan in advance of the meeting today. the other item on our agend adjust a suggestion. trump last night seeming to back away from his call to temporarily ban muslims from entering the united states. >> have you decided whether you'll back off on the ban. i realize it was a temporary ban but with an unlimited temporary period could go on forever. >> sure, i'd back off on it it. >> trump saying that was just a suggestion. that could be a potential ofive branch from trump to ryan. it's been condemned forcefully by ryan and by many other top republicans. an aide suggesting that trump's thinking on entitlement reform could also be flexible. trump also once again open to releasing his tax returns. that's the signal he's sending at this moment. all that and much more to come this hour. >>> we begin with where all eyes are at this moment on that summit about to begin between donald trump and paul ry

we are waiting to hear from paul ryan. paul ryan set to speak at the capitol. we just got this joint statement with donald trump. we can expect they'll say more along those lines, a lot of unity, a lot of common ground. >> he often takes questions at these press conservativeses afe that's where the interesting parts begin. >> we'll be right back. >>> speaker ryan's first comments after his high stakes meeting with drurp. >> there is a lot to discuss. i want to bring in jim geraghty, mary katherine ham, jackie kucini kucinich, and kevin sherton. jim, i want to start with you. you work for the national review which made it its reason deet tray. now that you hear paul ryan, the highest elected republican official in the land talk about unity and common ground and how great this meeting was, is this what you wanted to see from paul ryan? >> they're all going to sell out eventually. you know, when the rick perrys and bobby gjindals of the world who said you can't trust donald trump with nuclear weapons, he's a mad man who needs to be stopped -- oh, never mind, he's

it's not a win-win for paul ryan. paul ryan loses whichever way he goes. if he doesn't support donald trump, then he's abandoning a lot of members. there will be division inside the republican party. and he'll have the day-to-day responsibilities of managing a house where he's leaving some of his members hanging out to dry politically. if he endorses trump, then he betrays decades of principles, conservative principles, and he's supporting a man who says the republican party in effect is not the conservative party. so it's going to be a tough call for him. donald trump if he gets paul ryan's endorsement, that's a win because he's got the entire republican establishment capitulating to him. if paul ryan doesn't endorse him, he can beat up the republican establishment in washington, d.c., between now and november. so right now there's no doubt donald trump is holding the stronger cards. paul ryan just has to figure out what the least bad solution is. and we're going to continue to follow up on today's big meeting. now less than an hour away. steve kornacki w

paul ryan is in a difficult spot here. a lot of things that excited his base and propelled him to where we are some of the things the republican party wants him to move away from. he has to figure out if there is a path that he can do that and moderate and move away from the positions without actually alienating some of the people that really supported him and carried him this far that he will need in a polling hole with the democrats. >> a guy who knows how it works and how you have to really get some discipline and control in washington. that is something he talked about for years. you have a donald trump presidency maintaining medicare and spending more money and tax cuts for everyone. >> very high intensity dance. >> tal. thank you. >>> thousands of people evacuated by air as a monster wildfire approaches. details next. [bur farmers,we've seen almost everything, so we know how to cover almost anything. even a ufh2o. [man] that's not good. [pilot] that's not good. [man] that's really not good. [burke] it happened august

paul ryan is that bridge. what i think you will see after this thursday is that donald trump represents the american people coming in to meet with paul ryan and donald trump is bringing into this room metaphorically 10.7 million people. paul ryan is going to say american people i get it, trump is the guy. paul ryan will have to talk to the washington, d.c. elite and say it's time to come around. let's beat hillary clinton. i think all of this is just at the end of the day going to help next week when paul ryan holds hands with donald trump. >> what about possibly some of it helping hillary clinton because reports that the campaign wants to win over republicans who don't like donald trump. there was a point in the not so distant past when trump said positive things about hillary clinton. do you think she can pick up support? >> she can try. it is up to trump to bring republicans disenfranchised back into the fold. he has to do work and not assume every vote will come his way. he can take no vote for granted. he

>> paul ryan does not support a third party, because paul ryan is raising money for republicans. paul ryan wants to -- whether donald trump wins or loses, he wants to be there. if donald trump loses to pick up the pieces and move on to keep the house majority, senate majority and maybe down the road can run for president. i think paul ryan was putting down a marker today and donald trump was offended that paul ryan didn't wait until they met before having this break, if you will. paul ryan also made clear, he also made very clear, erin, he would like to support trump and is hoping they can have a meeting, one set up for next week where trump can at least embrace most of the ryan agenda. the principles of the ryan agenda. and that then they can say we agree to disagree on some other things. >> perhaps they'll get there. a quick final word, why would he do it ahead of their meeting? >> i don't know. because i think that paul ryan wanted to be the one who is in charge of the discussion, right? he wants to be the one out front. "outfront." play off words. but, you know, erin, here's

bid. >> sarah palin saying, this is personal for paul ryan and i'm not sure that's true, that paul ryan wants to run for president in 020 and wants trump to lose so he can run. the point is fascinating. eric cantor was house majority leader beaten by a tea party challenger that nobody thought had a prayer. as donald trump tries to win the presidency, you have conservatives like sarah palin at the same moment, keep the tea party versus the establishment civil war going at the ballot box. >> the good thing that paul ryan has on its side is wisconsin is sort of one of the bases for the anti-trump movement. i don't know how much paul ryan has to fear from a primary challenge back home. >> we talked about this in the game of paul ryan, everybody knows who he is. he's the central figure in this but you can find this everywhere in the country, republicans saying what do i do? >> the odd thing is the tea party chalers to incumbents have been failing this year in the indiana primary, the tea party candidate for senate lost, the establishment candidate endorsed by mitch mcconnell won the primary.

i think it reflects what paul ryan said. right, he went further, not only to mitch mcconnell but other republican politicians, john mccain, kelly ayotte, for example, in new hampshire who said she would support the nominee, she didn't say she would endorse trump, she'd support, not endorse. >> can't figure out the difference. >> a little bit dicfficult. but paul ryan put himself further out there than others saying i can't support trump as a nominee right now and he mentioned of course, reagan and lincoln. i'm reminded yesterday, a political consultant for chris christie posted a photograph of lincoln with a tear running down his cheek. that seems to be the sentiment that paul ryan is conveying here. i think it reflects pressure he would be under and all of his member in swing districts are under, right, es especially if there's a republican congressman with a heavily hispanic district, if paul ryan is going to say i support this guy, all of the congressmen have to answer for it. >> we should mention, this happened in the la

paul ryan. there's nothing paul ryan said that was offensive. i don't know if you're angling for an interview here or not, but this is pretty straightforward. >> i'm just -- >> this is pretty straightforward. >> i'm just -- >> paul ryan was moving in that direction. >> i'm just answering the question, why did trump do what he did over the weekend. paul ryan went out and announced this without calling, he's the nominee of the party, and ryan says he wants to support him, call him up. >> mark halperin, would you like to make a bet with me? >> yeah? >> i will bet you something very nice that the meeting will end up well and this is just battle lines being drawn to step up the drama. >> i don't -- i never bet on what i cover, but i think i'm right. >> getting a pickup truck. >> at event after event over the weekend, trump said ryan's comments came as a surprise. >> paul ryan, i don't know what happened. i don't know. and he the other day just in a big -- i didn't get paul ryan, i don't know what happened. i don't know what happened and he called me

>> well, i mean, here's paul ryan's problem. paul ryan's problem is that he's got to try to keep the house in what could be a very challenging election cycle. lou: if they keep acting like this it's not going to be very challenging at all, at least not to the democrats. >> right. and as it goes for ryan, he could also have a president with whom he and donald trump have huge fundamental casmatic differences on policy points. ryan is a free trader and all that stuff. he's betwixt and between. lou: i have to put an addendum on the list as you were talking about the trump agenda and platform. he is a free trader. he's just not too thrilled with mercantile practice and the nations like china and germany, but with that addendum. >> duly noted. lou: as always, we find ourselves in raptured agreement. and thank you, thanks for being with us. >> harmony, my brother, harmony, my brother. lou: and tranquility. chris stirewalt. vote in our poll tonight -- that's where the jobs are, folks, that's where the jobs are. cast your vote on twitter

you work with paul ryan. you support donald trump. do you think -- what do you think of paul ryan? >> well, for some people, it will take a day. for others it might take a few days or a few weeks. i'm excited about next thursday's meeting between mr. trump and mr. ryan. >> do you think it's going to change? >> it depends on what they talk about. about substance, they need to ask each other, what do you think the future of our party should look like? what should the future of our country look like? they should get into issues. what's your vision for foreign policy or the economy, or education or health care. because where they can find common ground, they can get great victories together. because they're both passionate about the future of our country. they're not going to agree with each other all of the time. but where they can find common ground -- it's -- it's going to be donald trump or hillary clinton in the white house next january. so it's important for them to have this conversation now, because hopefully they'll have the opportunity to work together. >> i want to get to th

paul ryan plays tough. paul ryan is in a situation. any other speaker of the house would be in a seemingly tough position. >> what's so tough? if he's the nominee of your party, it should be like that endorsed. >> but he's a bit rogue. he's not a traditional republican. he's not a traditional conservative. >> he's a guy that wants to cut social security, medicare. he is not, you know, he's establishment. he's not even conservative for crying out loud. >> you are talking about paul ryan? >> yes. >> paul ryan, he has that problem, too. he's got problems with the right flank, the conservative wing of the conservative party. he has problems built in without donald trump. donald trump comes along, he is in the middle of two great tech on theic forces that are better colliding inside the republican party him paul ryan is the highest roompging setting aside the highest ranking republican in the country. >> is that the problem? is that the prosch? >> it's a power play, of course it is, lou. >> certainly paul ryan understands that -- >> he's no

you support paul ryan? >> oh, absolutely not. i'm very disappointed in governor perry. i'm disappointed in rand paul. i'm disappointed in all the people who said -- they called him a pathological liar. they were right. they said all of these things they believed he was. now they're turning around and saying this is our best chance for freedom. >> the meeting goes next week, that will be interesting. thanks so much for being with us. alisyn. >>> the fbi will interview hillary clinton in the next few weeks, nearing a nine month investigation classified material on his private e-mail server as secretary of state and whether she knew that. cnn has learned the fbi has already interviewed several aides in clinton's inner circle. justice department pamela brown is live in washington with the latest. >> hi there, alisyn. several people in the inner circle have been brought in quietly to a room in the washington field office for the last few weeks, including clinton's long time confidant, huma abedin. she is one of

said this morning that if paul ryan doesn't come around to back donald trump, then that makes paul ryan unfit to be speaker. said it actually to you this morning preponderance priebus is now trying to step in as peacemaker and that's where we begin this hour. phil mattingly is joining us. what are are we learn being this meeting? >> so this isn't supposed to happen. we're not supposed -- just wanted to clarify that right off the bat. reince priebus has become an outlet for donald trump of late. that's what made it most interesting when reince priebus at a playbook breakfast this morning recalled what happened after jake's interview aired, a specific phone call from donald trump. >> it wasn't like furious or anything. it was just like what do -- you know, what do i need to do? i mean -- and so i said, listen, let me just -- you know, my view is just relax and be gracious and i'll talk to paul, and we'll try to work on this. i know paul really well, and i know he's being honest, and i know how he feels, and so i'm comfortable with the idea that it's going to take some time in some cases f

paul ryan has power. paul ryan has strength. he leads policy. the intellectual wing. the future of the republican party really is in paul ryan's hands. trump is a strong guy. trump respects strength. paul ryan says, okay, let's talk. this is good probably for both of them. this is the opening bid in that negotiation. >> you think it's inevitable they'll come around? >> i think they have to come around. it will be up to trump to understand that he needs something paul ryan has. paul ryan has the future. hillary clinton is the candidate with the past. she's more of the same. from washington. hasn't done enough. paul ryan is saying there's a new economy. the world's connected. we have to open things up. he gave a brilliant speech at georgetown the other day about that. trump is not running as a party guy. trump is running as i'm one human being, person, i'm going to do a better job. he has no vision around which to rally a party. that's what ryan could give him. >> he made it clear he's not running as a conservative. solely as a conservative. you have the famous cover, t

ryan's district s defeated in paul ryan's state. how is t the way paul ryan is handling this so far, how is that playing back home? >> well, he is hanging on to a 64 point lead than his sara palin endorsed district. he doesn't have to worry about that 80 to 14 over this guy. sara palin doesn't have a lot of political juice back home. if the flying monkeys thought they would intimidate ryan, complete fail. ryan had two things, is donald trump going to campaign as an adult and as a conservative. there is no indication that he is willing to do either of those things. when i do think, part of this is political. you are talking about governing, i don't think that paul ryan thinks that donald trump will be president. he is trying to limit the damage, and limit the damage that donald trump will do as a conservative. you want to know what is in that train. where is he taking the train? is the engineer a crack pot. there was a lot of happy talk. you heard that happy talk. everybody is being nice to one another. these differences, you outline

i need paul ryan's help. had he done that, would have served that ball to paul ryan's court and he would have to help donald trump bring the party together. now it looks like we're at war. >> kayleigh, do you see, paul ryan seems to want donald trump to say publicly or not donald trump's positions. >> that's exactly right. it would have been against his brand to do what mark is suggesting, if he were to come out in a situation where you have something unprecedented, speaker of the house coming against the nominee, cow tow to that, wouldn't make sense. mccain had many points, he opposed bush tax cuts, he was still on board. mitt romney had the blueprint in massachusetts, it is nonsensical. people say it is about defending conservative values. that's a cover and front for the never trump movement. if that's what it were about, they would have been against mccain and romney. >> a lot of us were not happy with mccain or with mitt romney, but they were at least republican enough for us. there are a couple of issue

we are awaiting paul ryan's comments. we should have those moments from now and we will have them live. heather: i am in for generally. the republican primary race may just about be over but party infighting is not. a major effort to change that is donald trump meets with republicans on the hill including paul ryan. john: after the surprise announcement that the speaker was not ready to endorse the presumptive gop nominee trump meeting with the gop house leadership today and getting ready to sit down with senate republican leaders 45 minutes from now. john roberts is live at national committee headquarters in washington. >> reporter: good morning. we expect some members of the house leadership on the republican side will come out to the microphone soon, that meeting with donald trump just wrapped up. it went about an hour after the meeting with paul right and reince priebus went for about an hour. things are looking positive this morning. you don't want to spend a lot of time, sources inside the meeting describe the tone,

has paul ryan been at disneyland. for donald trump to take this meeting and be generous about it is more than he had to do. at this point paul ryan may be gaming it to stretch the type out as others are trying to figure out how to stop mr. trump. that has to be considered. it would be outrageous. we are 180 days until the general election. charles: you are thinking he may have if he their was motives. >> he says i can't make up my mind in 45 minute. are you kidding us? what we have been through, you know who donald trump is. he has known hip for a period of time even before he announced. this would give other looking for options some more time and i think it's shameful if that's the case. charles: michael goodwin do you see where this can be spun and ultimately come out as a positive? and if so would it mean donald trump giving in on something he campaigned on? >> that's great. it's fascinating to watch as the mess anding dynamic, if not a mess anding war. i think the congress, need donald trump more than he need them

when a guy like paul ryan who -- i voted for paul ryan, i'm a paul ryan supporter for speaker. but paul ryan was a think tank guy, he was a staffer here in d.c. then he ran for congress and he's been in d.c. a long time. nothing wrong with that in terms of -- but he's a policy guy, too. so i don't think that trump needs him necessarily. >> i'm going to talk later on in the show who ever thought paul ryan would be called establishment. he was like 110% conservative. more on that later but congressman hunter, thank you. >>> meantime, hillary clinton is using the discord among republicans to her advantage. trying to her. her camp pointing out the housing out the house speaker is not against -- >> is it safe to say it didn't take the collin camp long to react to today's big trump/ryan meeting? >> it is pretty apparent clinton's team in brooklyn was waiting for the speaker's news conference. when they did not hear a formal endorseme endorsement, the clinton campaign pounced saying, "donald trump has proven himself to be a loose cannon whose hateful language and dangerous policies wi

high stakes huddle, donald trump and paul ryan. right now, the gop power players meeting behind closed doors in washington. the goal, to put an end to the republican infighting and unite around a trump candidacy. you see mr. trump there, he waived just moments ago as he arrived at the rnc headquarters, trump now powwowing with ryan. they both kick off a busy day. after mr. trump wraps up with gop leaders in the house, we'll meet with the party senate leade leaders. the big question, when trump leaves washington today, will his party be aboard the trump train. we're following all of this, like only cnn can. our team of political experts, chief political correspondent, dana bash, manu raju, and our chief political analyst, gloria joins me onset. set the scene for us, dana. >> reporter: that's right. i'm on 1 enmanju is on the othe. the criesness going on over here. one of the sort of bev the repos end cameras to try to get the scene. if you look over here, this is on this side, this is the driveway where donald trump came in. because

some supporters on the hill reaching out to paul ryan. ben carson has spoken to paul ryan. donald trump has been saying and tweeting more optimistic things about the upcoming meeting. >> i think he's a good man. i really think, you know, probably we'll come out with something that's going to be good. i hope. otherwise i'll continue on the path i continue to be on. >> i don't really know him. i met him once in 2012. we had good conversation once in march. we as a leadership team are enjoying the fact we have a chance to meet with him. >> reporter: all of this could lay the ground work for the two coming out of this saying there is common ground. we want to reduce the deficit and debt. we want to cut taxes on middle class families. with donald trump there is always the possibility that it could end on a rocky fashion. that it could end in fireworks. we should get a better sense of that in a few hours. back to you. >> sara murray, thank you. >>> donald trump under fire this morning for refusing to promise to release his tax returns before the november election. early last year

paul ryan, i don't know what happened. lou: will the gop elites come to their senses, or do the rino tos really want to help hillary? executive ed door of "the weekly standard" fred barnes joins us next. it's a dream come true for harry potter fans, or at least this group of skydivers. they took out their brooms for a ride of a lifetime. ride of a lifetime. we h sfx: loud poorly played electric guitar that sounds awful seriously, awful but a lot better than last week ♪rock guitar music ♪we weren't born to follow shoshow me more like this.e. show me "previously watched." what's recommended for me. x1 makes it easy to find what you love. call or go online and switch to x1. only with xfinity. show show me more like this. s. show me "previously watched." what's recommended for me. x1 makes it easy to find what blows you away. call or go online and switch to x1. only with xfinit lou: senator john mccain is publicly supporting donald trump, but at a fundraiser behind closed doors mccain was, well, recently recorded saying tr

to twitter and take on paul ryan. you didn't see him challenge paul ryan at his stump speech tonight. he released a statement saying we're going to agree to disagree. i think we're seeing, i think it's a different kind of donald trump than the one during a campaign who would have taken to twitter, because he's not running against anybody any more. and he doesn't want to run against the speaker of the house. >> no twitter tirade, but just a statement which a traditional politician would do. how about the rest of the campaign? how are they reacting? >> i think tonight at a rally, while trump didn't say anythingo reporters offcamera. was this a slap in the face to donald trum. he said, look, there's the leader of the republican party and he pointed to donald trump. it's not paul ryan, it's donald trump. >> who is it? >> i think it depends which vision you embrace. i don't think this is an argument that republicans want to be having right now. i think at some point -- i was speaking to someone who's a friend of paul ryan'

that allows -- >> paul ryan is out now, howard let's go to paul ryan. >> good morning. right now, more americans die every year from drug overdoses then they do in car accidents. let me say that again, we have more of our fellow citizens dying from drug overdoses than they die of car accidents. today the house continues to work on legislation to address the heroin and opioid epidemic across this country. for those of you at our press conference yesterday, you heard from susan brooks and bob, authors of two initiatives. we're acting on 18 bills to deal with this. i'll actually be signing one of them today. it is s 32. this allows prosecutors to go after drug traffickers in foreign countries if we believe their drugs will make it to our shores, that's going to the president's desk today. one reason we call this an epidemic, because it cuts across all demographics and affects families everywhere in america. take youth athletes, they get injured and prescribed some medication. before they know it they are on a path to dependency and addiction. yesterday we passed a bill int

paul ryan has proposed something very different there. immigration, very big difference between donald trump saying we've got to deport everyone and what paul ryan has said in terms of comprehensive reform. on those issues is this donald trump's party or paul ryan's snaert. >> it's the republican party. we're going to work together. i actually have disagreed with mr. trump on will several of these issues as mr. trump is now run is in the general election and he's reached out, that's what he does. that's what a ceo does to other folks to get their input. i believe we're going to be all be on the same page. withy are going to certainly security our borders. we're going to have peace through strength. we're going to actually bring these jobs back, fundamental tax reform is part of it, not impacting anyone currently on social security or medicare. i believe, steve, as this moves forward, you're going to see a very united platform. we're going to disagree on trade. i'm with mr. trump. tpp would be a disaster for our country just like nafta was

paul ryan doesn't have the solution because paul ryan's never been a business guy. i'm not saying everybody in congress should be a business guy. isn't that how it started out in this country? farmers and business people, they went to congress. paul ryan's been a career politician. that's why -- >> what you're bringing up here is important and important to look at these things. we should point out just in terms of support we have this market law school poll from april. 81%, 81% of republicans in the first district say they have a favorable view of paul ryan. you're talking about his betr betrayal. i want to take a listen to some of the points that donald trump has made on some issues. >> we're going to save social security and medicare. i'm the only one that says that. i don't know how people make it on 7.$7.25 an hour. with that being said, i would like to see an increase of some magnitude. >> do believe in raising taxes on the wealthy? >> i do. i do, including myself, i do. >> the middle class has to be prote protected. the rich is probably going to end up paying

paul ryan and trump. and that's true, that's why the key word is principle, i saw paul ryan say it several times. he said we're going to unite various wings of the party around common principles. he mentioned again, principles. he knows he's never going to see eye to eye on policy he's going to keep using the word "principles" that shows me that paul ryan is ready to deal. >> he's further away on policy, with hillary clinton than he is with donald trump. paul ryan. and he should, come on, he's the speaker of the house. you're down to two choices, you're down to hillary clinton or donald trump. you're not getting a third choice, paul. get behind the guy who is not hillary clinton. abc, anyone but clinton. you don't want two or three or four supreme court justices going far left liberal and then gigts to make his life and everyone that's trying to get re-elected's life miserable. >> someone else will step up to chair it. >> he's going to do it, let's be honest. but see if rubio is interested. >> you're will

as you said, i mean, paul ryan, the paul ryan i know is very thoughtful, careful, cautious. he's serious. he's also a fun guy and takes the stuff seriously. this is his life. he's above all a committed public servant. and he has ashooed celebrity at every turn and i think the trump campaign is against everything paul ryan has done over the past decade or two of his career so that's why you hear that kind of caution. you know, we're planting the seeds to bridge the gap to get closer to being unified. paul ryan's job first and foremost to protect the health of the house and so i'm sure during that meeting he, you know, he sat down with donald trump and picture him very clearly saying, look, i get it. you're doing what you got to do. it's been very successful. congratulations. but let me explain to you some of the challenges that we're having in the house. and to, you know, to sort of educate, educate donald trump. he doesn't have a lot of political experience. any actually. >> who do you think needs who more? bill, i promise i'm coming to you. s.e. more of a paul ryan needs do

i understand what paul ryan has to do. he is the speaker of the house of representatives and he has to limit the losses of his own members. that's number one. he's also the intellectual leader of the conservative movement. i think it's important for him to articulate the fact there are principles that we believe in, bedrock principles that we need to run on. you don't want two liberal democrats running against one another. he is in a ridiculously difficult position. this is a dilemma for him. >> you could argue that the voters are not with you and paul ryan who have the conservative agenda in many ways, a lot of what donald trump is saying is anat ma to traditional conservative policies, especially when it comes to the budget. >> sometimes you have principles that aren't necessarily popular. i understand that donald trump won this nomination. here in wisconsin, paul ryan still has the voters with him. he has about 79% approval rating in his own district. there are some bedrock principles we don't abandon simply because of

take paul ryan. he is one of the biggest champions of comprehensive immigration reform on the republican side in congress. he made his name in the last year in congress by pushing through the trade proposition authority that allows free trade deals. and his budgets that he did before he was chairman of the ways and means committee, when he was budget committee chairman talked about reforming social security and medicare entitlements. the big things paul ryan has done and stands for the specifics are exactly opposite what donald trump just ran on. bill: that is why mitt romney chose him four years ago. you asked the question in your first answer. now let's answer it. can they find a way to get along and what does that look like? >> so, yes, there is a way. i don't know that they will do it but the way is this. donald trump has very broad goals. he is has left a lot of space underneath of those goals to sort of get there. if he is willing to let house republicans, paul ryan in particular but other memb

he did not know paul ryan was going to do this. paul ryan's staff did not call donald trump. donald trump sat there and started thinking, more people have voted for me in this primary than any other republican primary in the history of the country. why is it incumbent on donald trump to move toward paul ryan? why is it incumbent for him to move towards republican leaders? donald trump decided it isn't and that's where you're seeing him right now going into thursday, keeping a very hard stance on where he's been on policy, where he's been on tone. paul ryan should have to come to him, and guys where that basically leaves us a couple days away from this is no closer to any type of resolution. >> no closer to a kumbaya moment, no closer to any middle ground. put this all in context, the broader context of the week and where donald trump is right now. and a candidate that seems to be trying to transition to a general in tone but, but, dot, dot, dot, but not yet it seems. >> put yourself in donald trump's head space for a moment. he has done nothing but -- >> that is a challenge,

>> no, donald trump is making an effort, he called paul ryan. they had discussions, it is paul ryan who has taken ten steps back when donald trump is trying to take steps forward, trying to get there. you have the establishment, they don't care about the will of the people or the voters, they say we're smarter than you, you made the wrong choice, we're going to about and not get behind the choice you made. >> i don't understand why does trump continue to fight a battle he already won. why doesn't he focus on the future? >> watching him speak in west virginia. >> republicans and the rnc and discounting the views of delegates at the convention, why not put all of that past him, start to focus on the general election. >> is there any scenario you see paul ryan not supporting donald trump? >> easy to imagine. there is a reason you don't necessarily see him doing what some republican leaders like paul ryan would like to see, which is that donald trump's interest is in getting elected. that doesn't necessarily mean carrying along a lot of the party pl

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i think this is paul ryan seeing this is what the voters are seeing. >> is paul ryan saying donald trump understands public policy? we've been watching donald trump several times a day for a year, i have never once seen a donald trump who shows a command of public policy. >> by the way, lindsey graham said the same thing today. he said he was very surprised by the nuanced questions. >> can he please start showing that to the american people? where is this donald trump? >> some said i actually like the guy. here's the question in this vein. john boehner said that he didn't, he did support donald trump, if he becomes the nominee, he said he would support him, but he doesn't support some of his positions. so how can you support him if you don't support his positions? i don't understand that. >> you don't need someone who is a litmus test for everything you ever believed in. and john boehner recognizes, i might not agree with him on some policies, but the principles. >> but isn't that what really matters? is the policies and not the person? this person represents these particular policies? t

and on first street here with the meeting with paul ryan. halie jackson is still standing by, halie, did he say anything? >> reporter: he waved at me standing outside here but that was about it. he has done that all morning. it is interesting. we heard as our colleagues pointed out, we heard from chairman priebusnd paul ryan but have not heard of donald trump. you can see secret service just kind of dispersing it at this point. he was with his aids, all walking down this building. trump's legal team he's meeting with his lawyer apparently. we are working to find out what happened inside this building. trump is uncharacteristically is quiet how this went. he's somebody that often likes to speak to the media. i would not be surprise at some point of the next 24 or 48 hours that we hear something from donald trump. heading back to new york and back home to trump tower as washington gets used to the idea of donald trump the presumptive nominee and coming to washington more often to build relationship. that's one thing we have heard on capitol hi

as far as paul ryan goes and i think this gets lost in the discussion, paul ryan is a speaker in the house of representatives. he's the new speaker in the house of representatives. he has a long career ahead of him and a very powerful position. he needed to draw the line in the sand to show to donald trump and to anyone else that he is in control of the situation specifically when it comes to the house. look, they both walk away as winners. paul ryan, wolf, looks like he's going to stand his ground and has stood his ground. donald trump is looking like he's not anti-establishment. in the end, guess what, they will all come together. >> peter, after today's meeting, it looks like speaker ryan has moved from not yet trump to probably trump. do you agree? >> yeah. he looked carefully at what he said and you contrast it with what he said a week ago with jake tapper and it was really interesting. he said donald trump inherits the party of lincoln and reagan and jack kemp and has to move towards its principles. he didn't say that today. he said we have to unify, suggesting he might have to

jose. >> just the paul ryan issue, you know, imagine a convention where paul ryan is essentially the most authoritative figure there at the convention. how is that going to be if they -- you know, they're not dealing with each other? >> he's essentially set to chair the republican national convention, that's right, jose. i think paul ryan gave himself some space. this is not going to -- what he said yesterday isn't going to prevent him from turning around and saying, okay, donald trump has taken care of my concerns. look at x, y, z thing he's done or said and so now i feel comfortable with him as our republican standard bearer and nominee. there's still space for that to happen. some of the people that i've talked to about donald trump's plans going forward and kind of the broader circle of people who are more willing to talk about supporting him, i think they're looking for policy speeches from donald trump and looking to have a better understanding of where he would stand on many of these conservative issues, jose. >> kasie hunt in new york, thank you very much. great seeing you. f

that's where paul ryan is. heals at heart a policy wonk. >> what are the issues, policies you like of donald trump that you've seen so far? >> i think we're going to see some conservative motion in the country. and the thing i'm really most excited about is donald trump is a deal maker. i spent six years in congress with a my way or the highway president. i want a dealmaker who will come in and get some stuff done and i think that's what the american people want. they're tired of gridlock in washington. >> in terms of what donald trump's policies are, and he's elaborated a number on his way to this nomination, which are the ones you are most enthusiastic about or support? >> i think one of the things that came out of the meeting is he supports deregulation and getting the government out of people's hair. i think he's also strong on border security. we disagree on some of the details. but as a texan i see the real damage that happens, both on a human level and on a crime level, as a result of a wide-open border.