but is it isis? i must tell you a short time ago we received a phone call from a senior administration official who said they're very well aware of the claim of responsibility, but the u.s. right now is not so sure. they're looking tonight at the possibility of other claims of responsibility. there are a number of terror groups in this region of the world. bangladesh has suffered a good deal at the hand of terrorists. just yesterday, the state department claimed them to be a terror organization. so a lot of caveats tonight as officials try to sort out who may really be responsible for this. and bangladeshi officials on the streets trying to get a handle on the situation. >> we will certainly note that caveat. now our chief national correspondent is also monitoring the latest developments, what are you hearing? >> this is a phenomenon that we have seen. groups more ambitious and spectacular. and they have a capable presence of isis and al-qaeda only yesterday, oddly enough, was declared a terror organ

let's get isis. we have to get isis. we have to get them fast. . . >>> there's nothing i can think of that i'd rather dothan have russia friendly as opposed to the way they are rights now so that we can go and knock out isis together with other people and with other countries. >> donald trump taking some heat as he turns his focus to the re-election. the general election, i should say, for saying we should team up with russia to defeat isis. this is around the world is intensifying. with just witnessed the brutal beheading of a priest in france this week and the group isis is calling for more bloodshed. lisa, should we partner up with putin to bring down isis? >> we do need a stronger coalition because that's lacking. i'm not sure what the resolve of russia is in defeating isis considering the fact they have attacked u.s. forces in syria. that's a concern there. but the problem is we have a president that has shown no resolve in fighting isis. he himself says he has no plan to defeat isis. we have secretary of state who

the isis-affiliated news agency said isis is taking responsibility for the attack. lucy kavanaugh joins me now from our london newsroom. we are getting numbers all over the place. the resident said she thought there might be as many as 80 people. >> absolutely, kate. the only certainty is that there is no certainty. it is an evening of absolute terror in dhaka, gulshan neighborhood. a 15-minute walk roughly to the u.s. embassy. sources of mine based in this area said it is considered to be one of the safest spots in the country. there are check points around the neighborhood. that shattered when eight, possibly nine stormed the holey artisan bakery. the suspects are heavily armed. we hear they opened fire. it appears to be an active hostage situation. these kinds of diplomatic enclaves is a close-knit, tight community. a lot of people likely to be hanging out at the very few spots that are available for foreigners and westerners to hang out. isis did claim responsibility for these. we're hearing that from other security sources as well. the u.s. state department say

to go after isis. so i think we need to stick with our allies before we start venturing into russian territory. >> stick with our allies? but what about know who our en. >> the obama administration's main focus is isis. >> get rid of isis because it doesn't matter if you get rid of assad and you still have isis. one of the major -- >> sorry, rick. one crucial point missing here. five years ago when president obama said that assad should go, maybe even six years ago now, the russians did not have military hardware inside syria. >> that was five years ago. >> we did not act. we did not try to implement u.s. policy. when we said assad should go we should have formed our coalition before the russians stood up to us, before they went on the offense and moved hardware into syria. >> we have a cancer in isis we need to treat the cancer before we start worrying about the broken finger with assad. that clearly is my opinion -- >> let's do that with oural lisz and not russia. >>> coming up, how much does a globa

to go after isis. so i think we need to stick with our allies before we start venturing into russian territory. >> stick with our allies? but what about isis? we know who our enemies are. >> the obama administration's main focus is isis. >> get rid of isis because it doesn't matter if you get rid of assad and you still have isis. one of the major -- >> sorry, rick. one crucial point missing here. five years ago when president obama said that assad should go, maybe even six years ago now, the russians did not have military hardware inside syria. >> that was five years ago. >> we did not act. we did not try to implement u.s. policy. when we said assad should go we should have formed our coalition before the russians stood up to us, before they went on the offense and moved hardware into syria. >> we have a cancer in isis we need to treat the cancer before we start worrying about the broken finger with assad. that clearly is my opinion -- >> let's do that with oural lisz and not russia. >>> coming up, how

they go to isis even if isis loses grown in iraq and syria. we're trying to intervene, and it's too late. we're seeing what happened as a result of that right now. >> this would be a change in tactics. they have a long horrible history of attacks, hacking deaths in the street, there was a breathe killed just this morning there. but this is different. multiple attackers, hostages, multiple victims. what does this tell us about both capabilities and also perhaps a change in strategy? >> this is an attack of those willing to sacrifice themselves. unfortunately the prognosis for everybody in this cafe is not good because they go in knowing they will die and take out as many people as possible. and this is ultimately the context of the ramadan offensive. they were killed in lebanon. the attacks in istanbul airport, now this as you mentioned, the orlando attack inspired by isis. also the attack in paris where they killed a police official and his partner. so this is a real campaign. what makes this worrisome is that it will not end today. it could g

was isis. the prop here, and what really worries us, is knowing it is isis there will not be any effective negotiation. they want the hostages to die, the law enforcement officers that try to free the hostages to die, and they want maximum world prime time television coverage when it unfolds. right now in bangladesh it has been unstable for the last couple years. now we see isis trying to assert itself. >> tom fuentes, stay with me, i want to bring peter bergan in. isis claiming responsibility, knowing what happened with the triple suicide bombing a few nights ago, 43 murdered. and now to know this is isis, 20 to 30 lives inside of this restaurant, the concern is high. >> yeah, unfortunately this is a attack that we have seen, all of us saw in 2008. where you know 166 people were killed by ten who went in knowing they would fight to the death. the people that would sacrifice themselves, this is one of those attacks it seems. they will try to take out as many police officers as possible. they wi

simply isis inspired? >> i think isis has realized it needs to concentrate its military effort where it has the greatest chance of success, which means not to recapture some of the cities and territory it has lost to american-backed forces because that's going to be very difficult given american air power. but what they can do is this kind of more and more sophisticated terror operations. but i think it's important to point out the greatest challenge we face remains that isis is able to inspire these young, misguided people to do it. let's step back. we've gotten into the details here a pllot. what is the common feature here? they're all muslims. they all claim to be doing it inspired by some vision of radical, fanatical islam and that is the cancer, the virus spreading. it's important to talk about it frankly. there is a cancer in the world of islam that allows these misguided, alienated young people to volunteer for this. >> i'm glad you're being honest about this. this is tough area to go into and i'm s

was on the ministry of war for isis and also an isis recruiter. he was arrested in sweden in 2008 on weapons smuggling charges so he has been on the terror radar for a while. now, as you mentioned, the hunt is on for him. we heard he could be in turkey, although not confirmed. new details are coming out about the attackers. police apparently know their identities two of the three identities. get, turkish officials confirmed one is from russia, dagestan, and thes from uzbekistan and are said to have carried out the blood bath that happened tuesday night. that said, more raids overnight. 11 people arrested in connection with tuesday's attack. 44 people killed. more than 230 others wounded, and some remain in the hospital in serious and critical condition. >> john hudy, live in istanbul. the scene of the last terror attack until today. now over the last four hours, a terror attack in the bangladesh capital of dhaka. there are as many as 35 people, according to the latest reports, still being held hostage inside a restaurant, a very popular restaurant

isis is singling out france. there are appear to be a number of french operatives to extend the division who have made this a very big priority. they are able to dispatch wave after wave of recruits to france. we do not know what this attack was at this point. was it a lone-wolf attack? was it indeed isis? could it have been al qaeda or another group? we don't know those answers yet. there has been no claim of responsibility by any jihadi group. as the hours tick by, that will become a bit of a deafening silence. if it is isis, we can expect them to claim the attacks very soon. they claimed the attacks in paris last year. we saw the claim of responsibility coming from isis. we go through today and no claims of responsibility, that puts you more into the idea this was perhaps a lone-wolf operation and perhaps al qaeda or isis did not know this was coming. >> paul cruickshank in nice and cedric leighton, in washington. thank you very much. >>> donald trump and hillary clinton respond to the terror attacks in nice,

it came out on affiliated news sites belonging to isis or affiliated with isis, rather. let's talk about what this means if in fact this turns out to be isis. also on the heels of the attack we saw in istanbul, which the turkish government is assigning to isis. >> right. well, this would be the coming out, inaugural terrorism event for isis in the indian -- you know, eastern indian subcontinent. and bangladesh in particular. they have never had an operation of this scale, this magnitude, a suicide hostage barricade where they have come out and now captured the attention of the entire international community. very few people before tonight could have told you where dhaka, bangladesh, was or that it was even the capital of bangladesh. so they now have staked their claim in an area that actually was traditionally al qaeda's. al qaeda of the indian subcontinent had dominated this part of the world. but it also shows that isis, as they're being pressured throughout the world, are now activated their smaller level affiliates and carrying out big scale operations. >> jim cavana

i know you've learned a lot about isis. so give us a sense of what's at play here for isis. some people may be watching this. as malcolm was saying they may have never heard of dhaka or bangladesh. why bangladesh? why has isis been so keen on trying to establish a foothold in this particular country over the past year? we know that since november they had an issue of dabik magazine that spelled this out, talked about it, but why? >> they've been very clear about their desins on bangladesh. they have this strategy of looking for countries that have strong muslim majorities, as bangladesh does, and that are also inparentally inherently un. bangladesh's government isn't on the firmest footing. isis looks at governments like that and says we would like to attack places where we can show that the government is even less stable than it appears to be at first. they want to be able to say that the government here can't provide security. it can't provide stability. then they want to be able to point to their own state in syria and iraq and say, look, stability is what we do best. we

it came out on affiliated news sites belonging to isis or affiliated with isis, raether. let's talk about what this means if in fact this turns out to be isis. also on the heels of the attack we saw in istanbul, which the turkish government is assigning to isis. >> right. well, this would be the coming out, inaugural terrorism event for isis in the indian -- you know, eastern indian subcontinent. and bangladesh in particular. they have never had an operation of this scale, this magnitude, a suicide hostage barricade where they have come out and now captured the attention of the entire international community. very few people before tonight could have told you where dhaka, bangladesh, was or that it was even the capital of bangladesh. so they now have staked their claim in an area that actually was traditionally al qaeda's. al qaeda of the indian subcontinent had dominated this part of the world. but it also shows that isis, as they're being pressured throughout the world, are now activated their smaller level affiliates and carrying out big scale operations. >> jim cavana

isis has grabbed this attention. al qaeda is aware of this and has felt the need to kind of declare itself important from the perspective of us, our security, you know, whatever group it is to have that competition does not bode well. >> that's right. that's one of the reasons you might have seen isis come out and claim it so quickly. i agree with peter. i was sitting there trying to rack my claim wondering when did they file a false claim? as they compete they want to get out to bangladesh right away before al qaeda says anything and says this is us. you're right about the violence of this. one of the competition is that al qaeda sees isis as too violent. they would say one of our responsibilities is to recruit the faithful by being on tv and beheading people you eliminate the opportunity. we would have thought of al qaeda 15 years ago as the most brutal people on the planet. they are not. >> now this crazy one upmanship. >> let's talk about the situation. we are entering the eighth hour. often times we will cover t

secondly, it isis's m.o. there's a chance that it wasn't isis. but this fits with isis's m.o. i think soes has enough of a presence to be able to execute an attack like this. and furthermore, al qaeda has had a much slower strategy in bang la ditch, one which has been focused on attacking targets that are seen as acceptable targets, atheists or hindus or christians or gay people and not going to war with the state. >> how troubled would you be by the fact that two of the gunmen based on the very, very preliminary word we've had from one police officer, two of the gunmen are unaccounted for. would that be a reason why the operation would be be over? they have to be sure they've got all the men who are holding guns on these host aemgs. >> right. eight is a guess. what we've heard is numbers ranging from six to eight. so lonks they're not sure if they're gotten all the gunmen, they'll consider the operation to be ongoing as they methodically calm through to make sure they're not leaving one of the gunmen behind. but beyond that, the fact that there's at least six and quite possib

but that is israel, that is russia, we are talking about isis, isis at home, which is a threat, but in order to accommodate himself to american policy, he must climb down from his declaration that the united states and allies must do something about it, and he must accommodate himself to work with syrian kurds, or the y fiji -- ypg. they have been effective ally against isis, but it is regarded to be in turkey, and arm of the -- an arm of the terrorist organization that the turks have been fighting. can they climb down from that? it will be very difficult in their political environment. richard: i was saying that a lot of people have been tempted to ride this tiger in the past, using the passion, discipline, focus, violence of islamic militant groups to achieve their objectives and it never attends to work -- tends to work. they were used in egypt to try to establish a base and make themselves look different and the militants went around and assassinated him. they used them in pakistan with the help of the u.s. and saudi arabia to topple or push the soviets out of afghanistan. it ultim

it's not just isis. it's the al qaeda laws as we have come across statements in reuters and other news agencies as well. claims by the international outfits are not as significant because it's nonetheless a terrorist attack which have been carried out. and that needs to be addressed with proper investigation, which is most important. >> indeed. and you bring up the difference between al qaeda and the indian subcontinent and isis, these two groups really in competition with each on other to maintain viability. i wanted to ask you from what -- please. two right ahead. >> i was telling you last evening in our other interview, the existence of al keita and i.s., even if it is remotely they are able to create the fear and draw the publicity of the people they have been seeking. that's what they are being successful at doing. that is making people more scared. >> that does seem to be their main objective. i want to ask you from what you witnessed through the night and into the morning when it came to these com

-led coalition against isis. and they believe that turkey is a grand facilitator in this, and they feel it's incumbent upon them to go after the turks and punish them for their support of the u.s. and its partners. >> we're seeing so many similarities between what happened in istanbul and brussels. we're seeing isis go after these soft targets. where else -- i guess what sort of symbolically are they trying to say to the world by going after not just soft targets but these airports as well. >> any crowded place is going to be one of those areas where there's a risk that isis will want to show its face, show its flag in essence. when you look at istanbul's airport, an airport with a lot of security, with some pretty good perimeters set up, good surveillance and, of course, not only uniform, but plainclothes policemen, that is a difficult target for most terrorist groups to penetrate. but they are clearly looking at this as a way to show the vulnerabilities of turkey in this case and, of course, other countries suc

san bernardino linked to isis. orlando linked to isis. and istanbul apparently linked to isis. and now we have bangladesh. the world is on fire, kimberly. the world is on fire. >> yes, and also, this is a very large muslim population in bangladesh and in dhaka. it has been stated as approximately maybe the fourth largest. so this is a country that has been in fear of attacks from radical islamist terrorism. again, that has been the focus, a specific target of isis, to commit acts of jihad in their name in this particular country. now, right now we do not have a specific report detailing that this is either al qaeda or that this is isis. and i'll tell you, dr. gorka, as you heard previously, some of the weaponry that was used, explosives at the point of entry when they went into this particular restaurant. there's reports that the nine attackers also have in their hands swords. and then of course guns. >> yes. as your previous guest pointed out, what we know tactically about the attackers already fits perfectly into what isis has been calling for and isis has been doing. in thei

we talked about isis-inspired or isis-directed, and this attack may have nothing to do with isis at all, but i would argue we are getting to the point where the attacks are happening so frequently for the people living in germany, france, belgium, and this has become a way of life and we have seen three of these breaking-news attacks in less than ten days. >> richard engel is sitting in the studio with us watching. what strikes you? >> the video is a bit grainy, but he seemed to be wearing black boots and he's a heavy-set looking guy, and he was not shouting "allahu akbar" as far as i can tell. none of these fit the isis m.o. and there are media reports that this may have been some sort of neo-nazi act, and there was one witness account that he said f'ing foreigners as he launched the attack, and we need to know more about these perpetrators. when you look at the choice of the gun, i guess he is wearing jeans, sort of looks like he is a heavy-set guy, maybe wearing some sort of vest. >> yeah. >> if you went down earlier, it looked like he was wearing some sort of black combat boots, mot

much much our youth joining isis. they think isis is winning. they have to make a very big and a very bold and a very strong statement as far as being afraid of me, everything that i see that they like me. i am the person that's believing in law and order, okay? we need law and order in our country. we need to stop with the borders. we need to stop allowing people to come into our country who we don't know where they are from and who they are. and there is going to be plenty of them from isis. i used to say possibly. but now it's almost inevitable that's what's it's going to be. we have over 1,000 investigations going on right now on radical islamic terror right now. more than we have ever had. now, hillary clinton and obama want to allow more people into our country. what are they too long? >> are you, if you are going to run as the law and order candidate as you say you are, are you going to replace loretta lynch as attorney general and james comey as the head of the fbi? are you going to do that? >> i don't want to comment on that but, of cou

as you mentioned, the claim of responsibility by isis by the media organization, they said isis

resolve to confront isis. now, of course, isis, this is the latest in a series of deadly attacks in iraq. but with the death toll still rising, it may turn out to be one of the worst in recent times. also, worth bearing in mind, that isis has now struck in other cities such as istanbul and dhaka, at least twice in recent days. molly? >> kitty logan from london, thank you so much. >>> and in bangladesh, police now identifying some of the attackers that took more than 30 people hostage inside a restaurant friday night. officers continuing, though, to block streets around the area, while investigators try to piece together what happened during the attack in the capital of dhaka. the islamic state has claimed responsibility for the attack, which left 20 of the hostages dead, but government officials in bangladesh deny that isis was behind the deadly siege. they say the attackers were part of a banned domestic terror group. >> so bangladesh, istanbul, and now baghdad. the islamic state being blamed for three major

there are no proven links between him and isis come accept the isis is claiming. what he did was not indicating that they would be a possible radicalization in the future. those crimes are real. one, my major concern is the fact that this kind of risk could happen anywhere, so we have to fight the source. now, against organized groups, since the events in question, legislative meetings in france, against terrorism, which make it possible to inquire information very efficiently. maybe they used to be some holes and now those holes have been filled. one last question because i have to leave. >> over there. >> thank you. my name is someone and i'm a student at american university. you've emphasized the importance of collaboration between france and u.s. i'm curious to know how a possible needs of mitigating any concerned should resources be reduced any further and cooperation that are currently going on you. >> translator: how can we do more, is that a question? guess. i think today the relationship is already at a very high level your there can be, i'm talking about

what's different here, if this is indeed an isis attack, isis has had so much more success. they have been so much better at being able to reach through the internet into the hearts and minds of troubled young people and getting them to act in their name. >> part of me wonders whether that is that they are more skilled at it than al qaeda was. part of me wonders if they're not benefitting from the road that al qaeda laid down -- >> yes. >> and that al qaeda tried it first, had limited success, some success, but limited success, and now isis has their own efforts that were -- >> absolutely. i thinks you're right on. there's no question that isis is much better at media than al qaeda ever was. even now, years into it, even as they're watching isis do this, al qaeda propaganda looks amateurish by comparison. and that propaganda, i think, is responsible for number one, recruiting people. people see this online and beginning speaking to them, and as a result of this, end up going. and also for inspiring these attacks. now, we don't know if this is isis yet. >> exactly. >> we don'

isis is basically lashing out. it's what i would call where you're going in after a particular target and as soon as isis is a victim of something or feels its very existence is threatened, it's going to lash out. these types of attacks are certainly planned, but they are acts of desperation in the sense they are needed in order for isis to maintain its momentum. >> something you said before we go. it's interesting that you said intelligence officials have to put themselves in the shoes of isis who can imagine such horrific things to do. >> presumably we'll see more of this. thank you, colonel. >> you bet. absolutely. >>> happening now, heightened

to isis. it's a much more active turkish role against isis. turkey has other fish to fry. kurdish pkk and assad regime, the attention has not been fully on isis, that's going to change after istanbul. >> it's interesting, some people in foreign service, the foreign service community will say turkey sort of talks out of both sides of its mouth a little bit and allows the border to be porous so isis fighters have taken on assad and at the same time allows u.s.-led air strikes to come out of turkey. how do you think this attack on the airport is going to change how they treat the border? >> they'll try to tighten up the border. the problem is that turkey is absolutely committed or has been to the struggle against the assad regime for all kinds of religious, regional and geopolitical reasons. the people who are fighting assad come from all over the middle east and all over the muslim world and don't carry i.d. fighters, i'm an isis fighter, al qaeda fighter, i'm with islam or one of the other grou

, or isis trained fighter as opposed to isis followers? >> no, it didn't. isis has its own quasi official news agency. it's one that tries to appear more objective but is clearly a part of the organization's media strategy. they actually claimed the attack for isis while the attack was still in progress, which is not something i've seen isis or the news agency do previously. secondly, it fits isis's m.o. al qaeda is far stronger in bangladesh. but this fits isis's m.o. i think isis has enough of a presence to execute an attack like this. and al qaeda has had a slower -- this attack was a declaration of war, which al qaeda seems to have avoided in bangladesh today. >> how troubled would you be by the fact that two of the gunmen based on the very, very preliminary word we've heard from one police officer, two of the gunmen are unaccounted for? would that be why the incident is not over? >> right. as your previous guest mentioned, six, eight is a guess. . what we've heard are numbers ranging from six to eight. they'll consider the operation t

it's unclear if that is related to isis but again, what is clearer is that isis has the capabilities to carry out these massive attacks. >> indeed they do. john, thank you. let's bring in former united nations ambassador john bolton, fox news contributor, ambassador, thank you for being with us, as isis loses more and more land in its self-deer clerical feat it is gaining -- caliphate it is gaining in attacks overseas. there is a coring layings -- correlation? >> i think the capable to carry out these attacks has been building for quite some time, unrelate told how well isis is doing on the ground in syria and iraq. and i think we have testimony from u.s. intelligence officials over the past several months that large numbers of isis terrorists, operatives, are in europe and very much fear they're in the united states as well. so, i think these attacks are not necessarily scheduled pursuant to some global isis plan. think the attack in baghdad is almost certainly a direct response to the loss of fallujah, and saying to the forces of the iraqi government, maybe you can beat us when you

isis very much sees germany as part of the anti-isis coalition, and the rhetoric from isis leaders, from germans in isis, has really been ratcheting up in recent weeks. just a few days ago we saw an ax attack on a train in southern germany. and the concern here today is this could be some kind of attack inspired by what we saw play out earlier in the week. >> munich police, by the way, they're just advising everyone around the area of this olympia shopping mall in munich to stay in their homes. leave the street. they're tweeting this out, this information right now. our intelligence and security analyst, when you hear this shooting took place, according to munich police, at a mcdonald's in munich at this shopping mall, coincidence, bob, or a deliberate statement they're trying to make to go after some sort of u.s. target? >> well, wolf, the more i hear about this attack, the more it x looks like it was organized terrorist attack, probably islamic. we'll wait to see, but the mcdonald's is an obvious target. what is also disturbing is the munich police saying do not tweet out pictures whic

. >> that's just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the threat isis poses to america. the numbers are absolutely shocking. according to the fbi, there are isis-related cases now all 50 states, including 1 thousand active the investigations. since 2014, over 90 people have been charged under federal law in isis-related cases and five of those people have been convicted by injuries. in the same time, there have been 27 isis-linked attacks plotted. 250 americans have traveled or attempted to travel to syria to join islamic state. here with reaction tonight, middle east analyst and foreign policy adviser walid phares and colonel ralph peters. our of department of homeland security bans the use of sharia and jihad. and jae johnson thinks guns are the issue. that's now a homeland security issue. now in the same time, the u.s. has resettled nearly it 250,000 migrants. and in orlando, the muslim population has grown ten-fold in the past decade. is this a problem we're not att? >> well, we're certainly not paying sufficient attention to any of the problems you cited. and we've

this is a link to isis. when you look at the last few months at all the attacks we have seen and whether there's any kind of pattern. >> yeah. what you see is a very interesting development across the spectrum of isis attacks. let's look, for example, in orlando. you had an individual who claimed to be doing what he was doing because he was inspired by isis. the u.s. investigators, the fbi, the others that have been looking into this have found no evidence to suggest this was an isolated coordinated or isis directed attack. it falls on the speck truck of radicalization and inspiration. they have been much more forth coming saying they believe this was an isis attack. one of the attackers may have been in raqqah as far as a month ago traveling from syria, the isis stronghold coming in and carrying out this attack. isis hasn't claimed responsibility for it. all the hallmarks, the fingerprints if you will, are there. so it fits the paper of what we saw in brussels and paris. a cell, three people, explosive, fol

is, how should isis or how can isis be defeated? that's why all these things are happening. >> excellent. how can communities live together when their neighbors have turned against them. >> yes. >> i represent the friends, which have been in politics, in iraq. >> i am very happy, that, all thinking after safe haven or something that is in, within the constitution to self administrate. and i am very sad, to hear him say i don't understand how is this going to happen. that is proposal that has been handed to the vice-president of the united states of america, a year ago signed by nine organizations of that plan. i would like to give it to you. and also the question would be, for all the panel, we need to, how can we work together as the communities, in that region to actually accomplish this? >> i'm going to turn to our colleagues, how can we work together? yeah. defeating isis might be beyond the scope of these guys right -- you know what i mean? >> that's great. what kind of international response would you like? that sounds good. y

at the moment they're pointing towards isis. but i have to tell you something, i'm listening to the report on what the president had to say and all we do is give condolences and tell these countries that we're going to stand by their side. we do nothing else. we're going to have to take a very strong stand and be very effective in a military response and then when these dots are connected by the national joint terrorism task force we're going to be able to go after their intelligence network as well as their internet network, which is really recruiting these people to commit these horrific acts. >> well, you know, we have been conducting a slew of airstrikes, in iraq and syria, and have been taking out 40% of their territory. so there were successes of taking back fallujah, still have mosul to go. but i talked to the israel prime minister benjamin netanyahu, and he said look, islamic state, it's a state. he said exactly what you said, go after the brain centers. go after the finances. i said, but we're doing that. he said no we'

and if it's not isis, it's the next isis. we have to get to the real root cause of the problems and not necessarily those who are tweeting from iraq and syria. though, as you mentioned, chris, isis has claimed responsibility, and they claim they have killed 24 people and wounded 40, which suggests they have information from kind of the inside of the attack. so there could be kind of a coordination mechanism, as you mentioned the bali bombings, i'll mention the recent jakarta attack against police in the starbucks there. those attackers were mentored over the phone from iraq and syria. there could be some relationship like that. again, i suspect, based on the previous isis affiliated attacks in bangladesh, it's home-grown terrorists who are more or less saying they admire isis or are using isis for a branding advantage. >> it's striking to me, malcolm, in these two cases of what is unfolding right now in dhaka, the ninth hour of the stand-off. you're looking at pictures from a relatively affluent and leafy neighborhood in dhak

they didn't try to attack any convoy of isis. how could they really be against isis? cannot see. how the russians have seen it from the first day and start attacking. the russian intervention unmasked the american intentions regarding isis and the other terrorist groups of course. >> three years ago, president obama made a threat against you, he drew a red line and then withdrew from that and did not attack you. what do you feel about that? is that the sign of a weak president? >> that part, the united states has been promoting for four years now only good president is ruthless or who should go to war. this is the definition. otherwise, it's going to be a weak president. which is not true. actually, for the american administration, since the second world war, they have share in the violent conflicts in every part of this world. and as the time goes by, those administration are becoming more and more pyro maniac. the difference now is only about me. not about the goal. one of them sent his own troops. like bush. the other one is using surrogate mercenaries, the third one, using pr

any say they have hit 68 isis targets and confirmed the death of 14 isis militants. the turkish authorities believe these targets and militants were actively involved in preparing a new strike against turkey. given the week we have just seen with the attacks not just here in turkey but in bangladesh and baghdad, as they continue to be on high alert, they appear believe isis when their spokesman say that this isn't over. more attacks are being prepared, brianna. >> nima, there seems to be this pattern that we are seeing, not just in istanbul but also in bangladesh where it seems isis is targeting, really, muslim targets but secular governments. it seems to be that they are sending a message. >> absolutely. turkeys is a very valued member of the u.s. led coalition in syria. it is also about trying to get as many impact for your strikes as possible. turkey with its multibillion dollar tourism industry. a number of countries, european and american travel agencies specifically target turkey, extraordinary cultural heritage. looking at paris, on high alert, brussels, or be

the death toll grows after another isis bombing. this one in downtown baghdad where a truck bomb killed at least 115 people in a busy shopping center. nearly 200 others were injured. it's the deadliest terror attack of iraq in the last year. the blast targets familying breaking fast for ramadan. a second bomb going off in eastern baghdad leaving five dead. >>> and the dad of a toddler killed by a gator told investigators there were two alligators. he said he was attacked while trying to save his little son. signs warned about swimming in the water. now disney says it's installing new signs to warn of alligators and snakes. >>> i'm jackie ibanez. now back the "hannity." for all of your head loins, log on to foxnews.com. >>> i will put a team together from across our government, the entire government, as well as the private sector and communities to get on top of this urgent challenge. >> as president, i will give our intelligence community, law enforcement and military the tools they need to prevent terrorist attacks. >> as president

according to isis, to the isis affiliated news agency, isis is claiming responsibility for the attack. that is not, however, an official statement out of isis. our nbc producer based in pakistan joins me now. what do we know at this hour? apparently we lost our connection. so let's go on to panaki. can you hear me? >> yes, i can hear you. >> what are you experiencing at this hour? >> well, now, this incident happened in basically a diplomatic area. i was there, until an hour ago i was there. now all the roads are blocked down there. people were rescued from the area if not exactly from the restaurant. right now, all the roads to that area, it is blocked. so we cannot say what's going on down there, you know. at the restaurant there. >> did you say an argnetinian national? i think we lost you completely now. difficult communicating with bangladesh as you can imagine, the cell phone situation on a good day is not great over there. let's see if we can get our nbc producer based in islamabad, pakistan, right next door to bangladesh. can you hear me? >> i can hear you. >> it's kate again.

. >> do you feel like we are at war with isis? >> i think isis is kind of a big term. i think there are a lot of people around the world who are unhappy. >> do you think we are at war with isis? >> most certainly she does. >> can you explain her plan? >> i cannot. >> you would support that you feel like we should destroy isis? >> what is her plan to defeat isis. >> you should ask her. i will mess it up. >> hillary, what is your plan to defeat isis. >> what do you jibe as her top two accomplishments in the united states. >> i feel like she reached out to people and made decisions by listening. >> anything specific? >> no. i support her and i support her leadership. >> anything else? >> withdraw from iraq, part of the iran deal, part of the libya intervention, any of those stick out to you? >> i have to say no. she is a total package. i am not going to pick one thing. i'm grateful she is a woman and she did it. >> she kept us stabilized with the middle east. there's unrest with the growing threat of eye sis. >> donald trump said his foreign policy is america first. what

so turkey is absolutely key to defeating isis. so if you view whether the coup should have been successful or grateful that it failed. the bottom line what we want to have is erdogan and his military slowly but surely turning themselves around to support nato, support the united states to turn their military might against isis. so i guess if i had to conclude, greg, where all this is going, politically it's neutral. i'm not sure the turkish people will benefit from it, but i do think, i do think this coup attempt will bring mr. erdogan back to reality and make him understand that stability in turkey is in its best interest, and perhaps it's time to take care of the problems on his border before he tries to grab power and become a dictator. >> and so the fact that he has used his military to crackdown on anyone who opposes him, protests out on the street, dissidents, civil libertarians, he's put journalists on trial and shut down media organizations. and has been i have heavy-handed. domestically. >> yeah. >> that could take a back

for example, ending isis. we're not talking about containing isis. there is no containment of isis. it is ending isis. but that is a major responsibility. that translates to strategies in iraq, in syria, maybe in libya. but also in terms of homeland security. i mean, mr. trump was very clear. if you do not identify the ideology and the movement, how are you going to be fighting it? there will be implications in terms of how we're going to conduct homeland security. there will be a massive change. that's what the american public needs to debate before november, in my view. >> again, police are saying, according to the bavarian interior minister, there in germany, at least three people have been killed in this attack at a large shopping center in the city of munich. u.s. residents there are being told by the u.s. consulate to shelter in place and listen to all police instructions. you can imagine it is the summer vacation season. munich, a large city, and a great number of americans are probably there trying to enjoy a vacation. so this kind of a situation, when it comes up, is just a

the territorial realm of isis. because their territory is not, the will to great caliphate, territorial caliphate, whether that in part but not only that. it is also a place where the organized terrorists actions in the entire world. others, russia, tunisia, and tunisia, egypt, i mean it's a long list and i've forgotten some, and it is a from this place that all the actions are planned. and number three, this what i was going the incubator, this place that spreads certain contamination, the individual act, the lone wolf that we saw in nice, as you saw in orlando yourself, and which gives people who are not quite right in their mind in action which is been claimed by isis your so in order to stop all of this first of all we have to hit the center, even if it's not. but at least we have to do that in start. since we started the coalition, a coalition exists. it is a live and well. it started after the newport summit. it brought results. i was listing some of the results earlier. isis lost a lot of surface, of land, r

, isis continues to exist. they are continuing to train the foreign fighters, and i think that's what we probably just saw in turkey, probably had some foreign fighters trained. now isis is not only inspiring the attacks like they did in orlando, like they did in san bernardino, but they directed the attack, looks like in brussels, and now looks like in turkey, as well. so we are vulnerable. and the solution to this problem, and it's a tough solution, it's not going to happen anytime soon, is we have to commit ourselves to destroying isis and islamic terror wherever it resides. where it's taken up safe haven. and while we're doing that, we're going to have to harden our own defenses. i'm a big supporter of additional k-9s in airports. for this weekend, american passengers have got to be vigilant. if you see something, you have to say something. don't let political correctness dissuade you from contacting authorities. >> you make a lot of good points there, senator. and i think the american people are with you a

isis attack. and the isis perpetrated acted along the lines of braufls. they're in a state of active recruitment in turkey. the number of their cells, of their safe houses have been growing. a delegate balancing act here. when you hit a muslim majority country where you're trying to recruit, you don't want to alienate the support base. when they don't come out and announce, it gives them that plausible deniability. but there is no doubt in the minds of many of those that we've been speaking to, whether in the u.s. or turkey, that this is an isis attack. what has changed in the way that isis carried out this attack is this seems, as we understand it, centrally planned. the men are believed to have come over from the raqqah headquarters of isis, rented a flat right here in the tourist district, which is very conservative. it's somewhere where isis has specifically been targeting. this speak to isis wanting to show as they lose the territory in iraq and syria, that look, we still matter. we still hav

i don't see it as isis directed. i see it more as isis inspired. there is another one that declared allegiance to al qaeda. if reports i read, they separated the victims according to nationality. those were bangladesh were taken to one side and butchered. there are reports that those who could recite the koran were spared. these, and again, the background of these guys very well educated, they come from a wealthy sort of middle class background, they're not -- >> different than the profile. >> indeed. >> so the horrible week started, of course, at the airport in istanbul. still no claim of responsibility. >> no, but that's characteristic for isis when it comes to turkey. this is a very classic foreign operations model, to my mind. you've got attackers were the former soviet union, russia, kyrgyzstan, the ringleader is a very well known chech en recruiter for isis. we reported at the daily beast, he was once an informant to the georgia government. this came from isis command saying let's come in and attack. >> that raises the next question. does it

late this afternoon, hours after the attack started, the isis news agency claimed that isis commandos are responsible for the ongoing hostage stand-off. the hostage situation is in its tenth hour as we speak. the situation, as we said, is live, is very much unfolding. armed paramilitary officers from bangladesh have surrounded the restaurant and are working on negotiating the release of the hostages. no attempts to do a forced rescue yet. in terms of americans on the ground, the state department has alerted u.s. citizens in bangladesh to shelter in place. the state department is saying they've accounted for 100% of u.s. service members, but they're still trying to account for all the private u.s. citizens in bangladesh. we know that isis has claimed responsibility for this ongoing attack in bangladesh, and presumably because they are isis, their goal is to grab the attention of the world media with a spectacular attack, which grabs the global media attention as they're getting now, and to terrorize the world. so in that sense, the attack has already been a huge success for them. but b

these are isis terrorists. al qaeda terrorists, or any organization, whether it's muslim brotherhood, these are terrorists. the reference to what happened in bangladesh, certainly unprecedented, particularly the attack in the catholic restaurant on 1st of july. and the way immediately the photographs went to the social media. but social media practiced particularly by these elements is certainly not a democracy. it's demo-crazy. we need to really look at that very seriously globally how to -- i wouldn't use the word control but -- if i may cite an example what wellis was saying. what do we do to prevent, if i understand you correctly, sir, post event analysis of course it can go at any length, any depth. before hand, what could be done? certain things we perhaps need to look at. among the muslims globally. it's debatable but roughly 50%. not a very impressive figure. in some statistics it's even up to 60% of the illiterate. the literacy is 40%. 72% of the global population, being muslim, produce basically five

if it's isis, we don't know if it's isis or al qaeda. it might be right wing terrorists opposed to the muslim immigrants coming to germany. there's clearly a heightened state of alert in europe right now. that's totally understandable, right? >> that's exactly right. there should be because we know the cells that were in france and belgium were in germany. there were connections to some of these people, some have been arrested. we have to look at every one of these tragedies as an opportunity to go back and roll up networks and police and the military got to move very, very quickly on this. there's austria nearby, italy, switzerland. everybody has to be working this. >> germany has been on heightened state of alert since monday when an afghan refugee in germany, a 17-year-old started stabbing people on a train with an ax screaming out claiming he was isis inspired. isis claiming responsibility for this attack. the fear right now is what just happened at this shopping mall could be connected. do you believe it possibly could be connected?

isis? >> well, there's probably a lot of chaos among the guards at the border trying to look out for isis, al nusra, militants trying to smuggle leaders' supplies over the border. they're probably looking inward to see who is going to be in charge. the u.s. is trying to seal up that border so that isis can rebuild its failing forces as they're circled around raqqah. and also they're in a place called mandich. and amandich the small town around turkey is where isis has been bringing foreign fighters in. and as as sort of a call center by which they knew recruit fighters around the world and funding as that city is losing one of its major communication modes but just miles away is the border with turkey. isis has been trying to smuggle out some of its top leaders out of the back side of mandich. and if the turkish forces were distracted, there's a possibility that they succeeded and got some of their fighters out. >> so does this jeopardize the u.s.'s ant to continue to use that air base, to