>> correct. >> so hillary clinton sends to jake sullivan -- let me go back. jake sullivan says they say they had issues sending secure fax, they're working on it. hillary clinton sends to jake sullivan, if they can't, turn into non-paper with no identifying heading and send nonsecure. so you're telling me it's a classified piece of information. she's taking off the header and she's instructing them to send it in a non-secure format. is that not intent? >> that actually caught my attention when i first saw it. what she explained to us in her interview was, and other witnesses did as well, what she meant by that is make it into a non-classified document, that's what a non-paper is in their world, and send it to us, because i don't need the classified stuff. >> nun wthen why take off the heading? >> i assume because it would be non-classified anymore. so you wouldn't have a classified header on it. >> she wanted to be technically correct, is that what you're saying? >> no, i think what she said during the interview is, i was telling him in essence send me an unc

sullivan -- let me go back if jake sullivan says, they say they have issues sending secure faxes. they're working on it. hillary clinton sends to jake sullivan, if they can't, turn into non-paper with no identifying heading and send non-secure. so you're telling me it's a classified piece of information she's taking off the header and she's instructing them to send it in a non-secure format. is that not intent? >> well, it actually caught my attention when i first saw it. and what she explained to us during her interview was and other witnesses did as well, is what she meant by that is, make it into a non-classified document. that's what a non-paper is, in their world. and send it to us. because i just, i don't need the classified stuff, i just need -- >> then why take off the heading? if it's going to be turned into a non-classified document, why take off the heading? >> i assume, because it would be non-classified anymore. so you wouldn't have a classified header on it. i think is what she said -- >> she wanted to be technically correct. is that what you're saying that -- >> i t

we know jake sullivan has had his top secret security clearance revoked for a period of time. but now we have cheryl mills and huma and a number of other officials. you look at those e-mail chains. and i disagree with the state department spokesman. they have a real problem at the state department. when you look at the e-mail chai a number of senior u.s. officials who are on those leaked chains with hillary clinton, who fully knew that she wasn't using the state.gov system or a classified system. there was classified information that they were part of. so the culture there is to not question the secretary of state, because in your yearly review, you may not get an appointment to a european capital if you speak out. so the culture there is protecting the rule breakers. i think they've got to clean it up. they're going to have to make some very tough administrative decisions here. and let me say lastly, is that the senate has a big role to play. the senate foreign relations committee and all of the members of the senate need to immediately step up and work with the state departm

. >> a little bit earlier today top clinton policy aid jake sullivan saying in a statement that reads in part this has gone from being a matter of curiosity and politics to being a national security issue. ouch. i bet donald trump's first thought when he heard what sullivan said that clinton's email server in her house is likewise a national security issue. the "on the record" political panel is here from u.s. news and "u.s. news and world report" hide ideal. nice to see both of you. >> good to see you, greta. >> first to you, hidy. i think what jake sullivan was talking about is the whole idea donald trump was making russians should check to see where 30,000 emails is. it does seem that jake sullivan stepped right into the trap by saying that it's a national security issue because naturally people are thinking well what about that server in the house? >> and that was the bulk of donald trump's news conference on message and on point talking about what this means in terms of the server being hacked and in terms of the wikileaks told us about the dn c's meddling and hillary clinton's r

jake sullivan has been widely talked about as a future national security adviser for clinton. you know, will there be a cloud over that, over him because of this. and finally, the last thing worth pointing out, jim comey was nominated by president obama in 2013, he has a ten-year term. he is going to be serving through the next -- the full term of the next president of the united states. if that is president clinton, it going to be very interesting to watch the relationship between a president clinton and an fbi director like jim comey, who has so publicly rebuked her. >> the best thing that could happen to hillary clinton is another fiasco investigation like the benghazi investigation where a bunch of incompetent publicity hounds chased secretary around a desk. i mean, this is just the exact worst thing the republicans have. >> i said lost word to michael but jeffrey jumped in. >> i apologize to you and to michael. >> no, the other guys are old hat to this and you're new to this. i am rich. in my gentleman's quarters, we sip champagne and peruse my art collection, which consi

>> correct. >> so hillary clinton sends to jake sullivan -- let me go back. jake sullivan says they say they had issues sending secure fax. they're working on it. hillary clinton sends to jake sullivan, if they can't, turn into nonpaper with no identifying heading and send nonsecure. so you're telling me it is a classified piece of information. she is taking off the header and she is instructing them to send it in a nonsecure format. is that not intent? >> it actually caught new attention when i first saw it. what she explained to us in her interview was and other witnesses did as well is what she meant by that is make it into a nonclassified document. that's what a nonpaper is in their world and send it to us. because i don't need the classified stuff. >> why take off the heading if it is turned into nonclassified document, why take off the heading? >> i assume because it would be nonclassified anymore so you wouldn't have a classified header because of what she said during her interview. >> she wanted to be technically correct? is that what you're saying? >

jake sullivan says they said they had issues sending security fax. they're working on it. hillary clinton sends to jake sullivan, if they can't, turn into non-paper with no identifying heading and send non-secure. so you're telling me it is a classified piece of information. she's taking off the header and instructing them to send it in a non-secure format. is that not intent? >> well, it actually caught my attention when i first saw it. what she explained to us during her interview was, and other witnesses did as well, what she meant by that is, make it into a non-classified document. that is what a non-paper is in their world and send it to us because i don't need the classified stuff -- >> why take off the heading if it is going to be turned into a non-classified document, why take off heading? >> i assume because it would be non-classified anymore so you wouldn't have a classified header on it. >> she wanted to be technically correct? is that what you're saying -- >> no. i think what she said during the interview is i was telling him in essence send me an unclassified

jake sullivan who is a senior policy adviser for hillary for america had this statement here on your screen. this has to be the first time that a major presidential candidate has actively encouraged a foreign power to conduct espionage against his political opponent. those are just the facts. a short time ago, senator tim kaine officially became the vice presidential nominee this morning. he had a chance to check out the stage before tonight's speech. kaine plans to go after trump about his recent comments. also on nato and our allies. >> and donald trump is a one-man wrecking crew when it comes to the alliances that we have with other nations. >> last night, of course, it was bill clinton. tonight it's president barack obama's turn as the keynote speaker. today the president said anything can happen in november's election. nbc 10's lauren mayk spoke to a clinton campaign aide about what to expect tonight. lauren? >> reporter: that's right, jim, she works in the obama administration. and now she's working for the hillary clinton campaign. now, having barack obama and joe biden speaki

scott, as for trump and isis, jake sullivan, a senior clinton adviser tells us he believes trump's plan to defeat the terror group is so secret no one knows what it is. >> pelley: major garrett, thank you very much. as the roll call continues, we're going to now go to the investigation of the leak of democratic party e-mails that threw this convention into turmoil yesterday and forced the party chair to resign. julianna goldman has the latest. >> reporter: intelligence and administration officials tell cbs news they're confident the russian government is behind the dnc's e-mail attack and says it has all the hallmarks of other cyber attacks launched by the kremlin's intelligence service. russian officials are calling americans paranoid. foreign minister sergey lavrov dismissed the allegations when asked about them today. while they can't ascribe a motive for the i'm dump on the eve of the democratic convention, u.s. officials have long suspected ties between the kremlin and wikileaks, the group that posted the dnc e-mails. they say this episode strengthens those suspicions and the clint

are any -- does former secretary clinton or any of her senior aides p specifically cheryl mills, jake sullivan and houma abedin continue to have security clearances provided by by the state department? and if so is it theoretically possible that you would then review those security clearances in the light of whatever is ultimately the justice department prosecutorial decision and the fbi's investigative material? >> there's an awful lot there. let me see if i can dissect it. i'm certainly not going to get ahead of what is still an ongoing process now with the state department or speculate one way or the other about which way this will go. i don't know. i'm happy to ask the question, your question about administrative processes. i don't know if there's a technical definition for administrative and whether that applies in broad scope to only current employees or former employees. i'll have to take that. on the security clearance process or review, all i can tell you generally speaking is that if there's a need -- and i'm speaking broadly, not to this -- that the way it typically works a

my colleague jake sullivan and our ambassador read the channel and challenge to get this going. but, it was not just the negotiation. we looked to our american military and we arrange our forces in a way that says we'll do what we need do to make sure that iran does not get a new nuclear weapon. deploying a new weapon that would able to penetrate an under ground facility. our intelligence community went to work in unprecedented way that i cannot talk about. [ laughs ] >> we began diplomacy all around the world to import sanctions and secretary clinton led an unbelievable effort to get multi lateral sanctions throughout the world that did not stop and we are never going to stop iran's nuclear program but we are going to force iran to make a very tough choice. to focus their minds to bring them to the negotiating table. we literally send teams around the world to say, this is the german ambassador, to say to our europeans. >> oh, give me a break. >> i know, i am introducing you. >> but, to get our european colleagues to stop importing any, any iranian oils. to get good neighbors l

. >> senior clinton policy adviser jake sullivan said tonight donald trump would stand with our allies. tonight donald trump flatly contradicted him. ronald reagan would be ashamed. harry truman would be ashamed. the president is supposed to be the leader of the free world. donald trump apparently unt even believe in the free world. trump's campaign chairman paul manafort said the times got it wrong. >>> 36 hours after putting out an initial statement brushing off accusations of plagiarism, donald trump's campaign offered what appears to be their final position on the near word for word similarities of melania trump's speech to michelle obama's 2008 dnc address. good news is melania's speech got more publicity than any in the history of politics, especially if you believe that all press is good press. and claiming the media is spending more time doing a forensic analysis of melania's speech than the fbi spent on hillary's e-mails. trump followed up by issuing a statement from trump organization staffer and ghost writer on several of his books meredith mciver, in working with melania tr

jake sullivan says they had issues sending secure fax. they're working out. hillary clinton since to jake sullivan if they cannot turn into non-paper with no identifying heading and send nonsecure, so you are telling me it is a classified piece of information that she is taking off the header, and she is instructing them to send it in a nonsecure format? is that not intent? director comey: that caught my attention when i first saw it. when she explained during our interview, other incidences as well, what she meant was by making it into a nonclassified document, that is what a non-paper is in their world. i don't need classified stuff. chairman: why take off the heading? why take off the heading if it is what we turn into a nonclassified document? director comey: i assume because it would not be classified anymore. you would have a header, what she said during her interview. : chairman that she wanted to be technically correct. director comey: she was saying simian unclassified document. take the hetero. turn it into a non-paper. i've never heard that term be

. >> reporter: clinton senior policy adviser jake sullivan slammed trump's proposal to putin saying in a statement, this, has to be the first time a major presidential candidate has actively encouraged a foreign power to conduct espionage against his political opponent." >> test, one, two. test, one, two. >> reporter: trump's foreign policy views are sure to come up tonight when virginia senator tim kaine takes the convention stage. clinton's new running mate tested out some of his country teeks at a delegate breakfast. >> you can't stop terrorist attacks if you don't share intele, and you're not going to share inteleif you shred all the alliances that donald trump is proposing to shred. >> reporter: clinton formally captured the nomination last night, celebrating with the crowd via satellite. >> and i can't believe we just put the biggest crack in that glass ceiling yet. >> reporter: it was an emotional milestone for delegates of her generation, like lana moretsky. >> we're not done yet but it's reachable. >> reporter: and for younger women like jamian smith. >> i already admired her,

scott, as for trump and isis, jake sullivan, a senior clinton campaign adviser tells us he believes trump's plan to defeat the terror group is so secret no one knows what it is. >> pelley: major garrett, thank you very much. now to the investigation of the leak of democratic party e-mails that threw this convention into turmoil yesterday and forced the party chair to resign. julianna goldman has the latest. >> reporter: intelligence and administration officials tell cbs news they're confident the russian government is behind the d.n.c.'s e-mail hack and says it has all the hallmarks of other cyber attacks launched by the kremlin's intelligence service. russian officials are calling americans paranoid. foreign minister sergey lavrov dismissed the allegations when he was asked about them today. >> i don't want to use four- letter words. >> reporter: while they can't ascribe a motive for the i'm email dump on the eve of the democratic convention, u.s. officials have long suspected ties between the kremlin and wikileaks, the group that posted the d.n.c. e-mails. they say this episode strengthen

. >> reporter: clinton senior policy adviser jake sullivan slammed trump's proposal to putin saying in a statement, >> test, one, two. test, one, two. >> reporter: trump's foreign policy views are sure to come up tonight when virginia senator tim kaine takes the convention stage. clinton's new running mate tested out some of his country critiques at a delegate breakfast. >> you can't stop terrorist attacks if you don't share intel, and you're not going to share intel, if you shred all the alliances that donald trump is proposing to shred. >> reporter: clinton formally captured the nomination last night, celebrating with the crowd via satellite. >> and i can't believe we just put the biggest crack in that glass ceiling yet. >> reporter: it was an emotional milestone for delegates of her generation, like lana moretsky. >> we're not done yet but it's reachable. >> reporter: and for younger women like jamian smith. >> i already admired her, but then it's like she did all of this on top of just being a great wife, a great mother, a great human being. >> reporter: that was just the message c

then secretary of state clinton and deputy chief of staff jake sullivan part of her campaign and personal lawyer sharia mills shared the top secret information. it cannot be be released not even with heavy sections blacked out, melissa. >> so wiki leaks is putting out more of the e-mails from hillary clinton's server? great reporting, thank you for that. >> and how this will affect the democratic convention remains to be scene. the republican convention impacted donald trump's numbers and nate silver said if the election would be held today mr. trump would be elected. trump has a 57 percent chance of winning and hillary clinton a 42 percent chance. silver tweeting don't think that people are grasping how plausible it is that trump could be president. new polls suggest he could be right. donald trump getting a bounce. six point jump from last week when the republican nominee was trailing by seven. and a morning consult survey shows trump leading mrs. clinton four points and l.a. times gives trump a four- point edge. david drubbinger is cnn correspondent. trump bump, a lot of people said he

she actually -- one of her staffers, jake sullivan, she ordered him to strip the header off of a document that they had to conclude was classified so she could send it over a non-secure server. that is also, in my view, prima facie evidence of her intent, which again you don't even need under the statute, to subvert the law. so i think comey had to do a lot of mental gymnastics. it's mind-blowing. he basically made the case against her. >> also 32,000 e-mails that she decided on her own that she was going to delete. >> of course. >> and some of which weren't classified. maybe we're playing clinton word games. extreme carelessness, gross negligence. i watched the first 15 minutes, and i thought, oh, my gosh, comey is going to pull the trigger on this and do the right thing, until he got to the "however" part. reaction? >> well, we really learned three things today. number one, we learned there is a u.s. criminal code, and there's a u.s. clinton code. and it's very different. different set of rules for the clintons than it is for everybody else, including you and me. the second thing we lea

jake sullivan, senior clinton campaign adviser says from his perspective. trump's plan to defeat the terror group is so secret nobody knows what it is. >> now to the investigation of the leak of democratic party e-mails that turned this convention into turmoil yesterday and forced the party chair to resign. julianna goldman has the latest. >> reporter: intelligence and administration officials tell cbs news they're confident the russian government is behind the dnce-mail hack and say it has all the hallmarks of cyberattacks launched by kremlin intelligence service. russian officials are calling americans paranoid, foreign minister sergey lavrov dismissed allegations when asked about them today. while they can't describe motive for the e-mail dump on eve of the democratic convention, u.s. officials long suspected ties between the kremlin and wikileaks. they say the episode strengthens sus missio suspicions. and the claim that russia is trying to help donald trump cast a cold war era intrigue over russia. >> russia stole it for my benefit. >> in north carolin

she was working with her policy director jake sullivan just moments ago. and this crowd, dark, there it is, working the final tweaks in the final moments. and we're going to be back with that big speech in just a minute. >>> here is a woman, making her first marks on the world. she is, we all promising an achiever, and yet -- it was an idea. a wild "what-if." so scientists went to work. they examined 87 different protein structures and worked for 12 long years. there were thousands of patient volunteers and the hope of millions. and so after it became a medicine, someone who couldn't be cured, could be. this is the summer. the summer of this. the summer that summers from here on will be compared to. where memories will be forged into the sand and then hung on a wall for years to come. get out there. find hotels at up to 50% off >>> welcome back to philade philadelphia. stephanopoulos. >> just minutes away now from hillary clinton's speech. crowd now watching a video, produced about her life and jon karl, we say this all the time, the stakes are high. in th

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sullivan. i think we may have a screen on this. if they can't turn it -- if they can't send it, turn it into nonpaper with no identifiable heading and send nonsecure. what does that tell you, brad, about her intent, vis-a-vis, classified information? >> that tells me she's telling a staff person to subvert the rules and laws of the united states with regard to the custodianship and custody and control of classified material and send it to her as a nonclassified document. that's clear to me as lawyer that that shows her intent, and it also shows to me the control she had over her staff. the staff, i'm sure, is also very culpable in the crimes the fbi is looking at. that's why you saw bryan pagliano. >> tammy, go ahead. >> the statute when it came to the espionage, you don't need to intend to. that's the key. yet you've already shown there is intent. that particular die nam egg, gross negligence, doesn't even require intent. that had to have been uncomfortable today for the former secretary of st

albright, madeleine sherman,tta, wendy jake sullivan. we have a wonderful moderator as well who will introduce these panelists formally. , getting have crossed you all to pen is a true treat. thank you all for being here. [applause] >> i really resonated with madeleine albright's speech last night. [applause] >> making connections is important. i was a big fan of secretary but theneven before, she pulled the mother and grandmother card. we also share being mothers of doctors and even grandmothers of grandsons and it really does teach management skills. there you go. when we talk about national --urity today >> [indiscernible] when we talk about national security today, the subject matter prominently includes challenges such as i says or pandemic disease, global climate change and the solutions are no longer measured mainly in tanks or long-range bombers. matters. power and power certainly still matters. the power includes our ideas and understanding, which is why i'm so pleased to welcome this amazing group here today. i have to say some

. >> how could they deny houma abedin or jake sullivan this access when hillary clinton was the secretary of state and if she becomes the president, of course she's going to have it. how do you sort of kill the underling when the principal is getting the access? >> look, this is a very unique situation. i don't know of any other situation that one can even compare. there was a situation, i think, with secretary of state baker in the early '80s when polygraph issues, sort of a clearance issue, one of his secretaries failed the polygraph and he abolished the poll jigraph at the state department. the president of the united states generally never gets involved in these types of decisions. i don't think if hillary clinton won that she would either, i would hope, but then again, you know, there are professionals that will adjudicate these individual's clearances at each of the agencies, and they could be denied access to staff programs or s.c.i. programs. >> that's the super secret stuff. before we go, need a quick answer on this, do you think it's the right decision to call comey before congr

she was working with her policy director jake sullivan just moments ago. and this crowd, dark, there it is, working the final tweaks in the final moments. and we're going to be back with that big speech in just a minute. >>> here is a woman, making her first marks on the world. she is, we all know, right in promising an achiever, and yet -- it was an idea. a wild "what-if." so scientists went to work. they examined 87 different protein structures and worked for 12 long years. there were thousands of patient volunteers and the hope of millions. and so after it became a medicine, someone who couldn't be cured, could be. me. ♪ the summer of this. the summer that summers from here on will be compared to. where memories will be forged into the sand and then hung on a wall for years to come. get out there. find hotels at up to 50% off and more ways to save at expedia.com/save50. >>> welcome back to philadelp a philadelphia. here again is george stephanopoulos. >> just minutes away now from hillary clinton's speech. crowd now watching a video, produced about he

i can tell you that her senior policy advisor, jake sullivan, says, i'm quoting him, "this has to be the first time that a major presidential candidate has actively encouraged a foreign power to conduct espionage against his political opponent. he goes on -- that's not hyperbole, those are just the facts. this has gone from being a matter of curiosity and a matter of politics to being a national security issue. and, i want you to listen to former cia director leon panetta who just talked to my colleague, christiane amanpour. >> i find those kinds of statements to be totally outrageous, because you've got now a presidential candidate who is in fact asking the russians to engage in american politics. and i just think that that's beyond the pale. there are a lot of concerns i have with his qualities of leadership, or lack thereof. and i think that kind of statement only reflects the fact that he truly is not qualified to be president of the united states. >> let's jump right in to it. howard wilson with me, new york deputy mayor under michael bloomberg who is set to speak this evening.

. >> you know, charles, it's not just that release from jake sullivan with the clinton campaign, tonight we are going to hear from former defense secretary leon panetta. he's expected to really go hard at this comment, that they took as really asking russia to go and find these e-mails, asking a foreign government to interfere in a political election. >> whether or not he made them seriously or not, could have been sarcastic or half sarcastic as a way to plant the idea. the fact is that it leaves the clinton campaign in a complete contradiction. if these are just private e-mails, then there is nothing to be concerned about. there's no espionage. there is no danger to national security. i mean, they will discover her yoga lesson schedule. >> all right, charles, thank you. we'll see you a little bit later. on this, night three, hillary clinton's nominating convention, two of her closest allies are causing her big headaches. nancy pelosi and virginia governor terry mccauliff. pelosi was asked on pbs why, according to polls, clinton is having such a hard time with one particular demographic,

sullivan there on the left, now a campaign adviser, and her personal attorney cheryl mills. this is information so damaging to national security it cannot be released under any circumstances. bottom line, this breach of the dnc and what wikileaks has, my contacts say they believe there's been a coordinated effort by these groups to release the e-mails in a strategic way in terms of timing, shep. >> thank you very much. i want to turn to abby phillips for "the washington post." the timing of the leaks, what are you hearing from the campaign. >> they believe the connection to the russian government and timing is intended to embarrass them. this came out on the friday before the convention started. they do expect there will be more leaks and that it could go on several more weeks or months. >> i could speculate, i could use other information that i have to gather an answer to this, but i'm wondering if what they're telling you about why they think the russian government would be working against them. >> they have been making the point quite some time that there are connections

kennedy: well, it appears jake sullivan opened pandora's box by pinning whole thing on russia as opposed encouraging the dnc to take responsibility for some of the content of those emails and i think the reason that democrats are pouncing on this is because they're worried he might be right. they're worried that perhaps russian hackers do have possession of those deleted emails. >> that is not my reason. let me get my reaction. first of all what you saw was a serious comment. he wasn't joking, inviting a foreign power to engage in cyber warfare and interfere with our elections. second, what he wasn't joking about, statement many times he admirers vladmir putin. what he wasn't joking about disparaging john mccain getting caught as p.o.w. what he wasn't joking about, disparaging a federal judge about his mexican heritage. the problem is he insults everyone including his fellow republicans. harris: his spokesperson, katrina pierson, was on with megyn kelly, the way we knows he was joking. the he included line press will thank you for it. when you saw that you think it for yourself. >> he wa

. >> now, i spoke to clinton policy chief jake sullivan after that statement. he said this has to be the first time a major party presidential candidate has actively encouraged a foreign power to conduct espionage on a political opponent. this has gone from being a curiosity or matter of politics to a national security issue. and in fact this statement seemed to be too much even for speaker paul ryan whose aide put out a statement saying vladimir putin is a devious thug, russia's a global menace and they should stay out of this election. don't know if speakers on the stage behind me tonight, tim kaine, her running mate, vice president biden, or president obama are going to mention this, but we do know that this controversy is not going away, michelle. >> no, it's not, john, thank you so much. john harwood. here to react more, hillary clinton's press secretary brian fallon, brian, good to have you here. >> thanks for having me. >> anything more you want to add to jake sullivan's statement and what he said to john harwood? >> well, there's been a pattern lately o

are any -- does former secretary clinton or any of her senior aides specifically cheryl mills, jake sullivan and uma abdean, continue to have security clearances by the state department? and if so, is it theoretically possible that you would then review those security clearances in the light of whatever is ultimately the justice department prosecutorial decision and the fbi's investigative material? >> there is an awful lot there. let me see if i can dissect it. i'm certainly not going to get ahead of what is still an ongoing process now at the justice department or speculate one way or the other about which way this will go. i don't know. i'm happy to answer your question about administrative processes. i don't know if there is a technical definition for administrative and whether that applies in broad scope to only current employees or former employees. i'll have to take that. on the security clearance process or review. all i can tell you, generally speaking, is that if there is a need -- i'm speaking broadly. not to this. the way it typically works, as i understand it, is that the depart

>> correct. >> so hillary clinton sends to jake sullivan -- let me go back. jake sullivan says they say they had issues sending secure fax. they're working on it. hillary clinton sends to jake sullivan, if they can't, turn into nonpaper with no identifying heading and send nonsecure. so you're telling me it is a classified piece of information. she is taking off the header and she is instructing them to send it in a nonsecure format. is that not intent? >> it actually caught new attention when i first saw it. what she explained to us in her interview was and other witnesses did as well is what she meant by that is make it into a nonclassified document. that's what a nonpaper is in their world and send it to us. because i don't need the classified stuff. i just need the -- >> why take off the heading if it is turned into nonclassified document, why take off the heading? >> i assume because it would be nonclassified anymore so you wouldn't have a classified header because of what she said during her interview. >> she wanted to be technically correct? is that wh

so, if hillary clinton and jake sullivan, and sheryl mills and huma abedin, all of them do not somehow get a future penalty, then i think there's difference -- a standard difference and there's going to be a lot of people upset. >> all right, let's go back to the fbi director, james comey's words, saying clinton and her aides were extremely careless. should she have security clearance still? >> well, sandra, i think this is probably the consistessential definition of being a sore loser, whether it's now new calls for new investigations or new legislation being written, this simply boils down to the fact that director comey, and very qualified fbi agents looked into this for over a year, spent millions of dollars probably. >> but congress can still act, despite the result of the investigation. >> sure, they can still act on this because they can't get their way. they refuse to let this one die, and want to turn it into another -- >> can't we just go back to the original question. >> okay. >> she was extremely careless in the words of the fib director, is that someone who should have sec

jake sullivan says they say they had issues sending secure fax. hillary clinton sends if they can't, turn into nonpaper with no identifying heading and send it nonsecure. so you're telling me it is a classified piece of information. she is taking off the header and she is instructing them to send it in a nonsecure format. is that not intent? >> it caught my attention when i first saw it. what she explained to us in her interview is what she meant by that is make it into a nonclassified document. that is what a nonpaper is in their world and send it to us because i don't need the classified stuff. >> why take off the heading if it is turned into nonclassified document, why take off the heading? >> i assume because it would be nonclassified anymore so you wouldn't have a classified header on it is what she said. >> she wanted to be technically correct? >> i think she said is i was telling him send me an unclassified document. take header off, turn it into nonpaper which is a term i have never heard before. i am told in diplomatic circles that means

jake sullivan says they say they had issues sending secure fax. hillary clinton sends if they can't, turn into nonpaper with no identifying heading and send it nonsecure. so you're telling me it is a classified piece of information. she is taking off the header and she is instructing them to send it in a nonsecure format. is that not intent? >> it caught my attention when i first saw it. what she explained to us in her interview is what she meant by that is make it into a nonclassified document. that is what a nonpaper is in their world and send it to us because i don't need the classified stuff. >> why take off the heading if it is turned into nonclassified document, why take off the heading? >> i assume because it would be nonclassified anymore so you wouldn't have a classified header on it is what she said. >> she wanted to be technically correct? >> i think she said is i was telling him send me an unclassified document. take header off, turn it into nonpaper which is a term i have never heard before. i am told in diplomatic circles that means

jake sullivan, her adviser, who served with her at the state department, yes, this was supposed to be a giant party. obama was going to go speak and really rally the base. that hasn't been able to come out for some other candidates around hillary clinton and now they have this pall that has set over her campaign, they are very happy that she's not being charged with anything but that said, this is an issue that is going to hang over this event today. >> you're saying it could have been a lot worse if he had made a different decision that may have ended her presidential campaign if he had come out and said we're recommending charges be filed. at least she can go forward and she has this hovering over her. donald trump's campaign will make a big issue of it. we'll see how she handles it. do you think her speech coming up in an hour and a half from now at charlotte, she's going to address this issue? we saw the brief statement released by her campaign. >> i would be shocked if she addresses this on the stage with the president in north carolina. i think she wants to do her best to turn t

. >> how could they deny houma abedin or jake sullivan this access when hillary clinton was the secretary of state and if she becomes the president, of course she's going to have it. how do you sort of kill the underling when the principal is getting the access? >> look this is a very unique situation. i don't know of any other situation that one can even compare. there was a situation, i think, with secretary of state baker in the early '80s when polygraph issues sort of a clearance issue, one of his secretaries failed the polygraph and he abolished the poll jigraph at the state department. the president of the united states generally never gets involved in these types of decisions. i don't think if hillary clinton won that she would either i would hope but then again, you know there are professionals that will adjudicate these individual's clearances at each of the agencies and they could be denied access to staff programs or s.c.i. programs. >> that's the super secret stuff. before we go need a quick answer on this do you think it's the right decision to call comey before congress? >>

i talked to policy director jake sullivan who told me this has to be the first time that a presidential candidate has actively encouraged espionage by a foreign power on his political opponent. it's gone from being a curiosity and a matter of politics to a national security issue. this matter of donald trump's relationship with vladimir putin, with russia, in businesswise and in terms of policy is getting bigger, not smaller, scott. >> yeah. john harwood, thanks, live in philadelphia inside the room of the democratic national convention today. >>> we heard a few minutes ago from the analyst that downgraded apple. ahead we'll hear from one who upgraded that stock today. and he sees a 25% rally hoed. >>> ahead. >>> plus, the waksals are back. kadmon, stock trading today. and new at noon interview, speaking live with the company ceo, harlan wax many, ksal, on next. the fact is: some believe they won't need a traditional bank down the road, so at cognizant, we're helping banking and financial services companies think digital, be untraditional, and reimagine what the bank of the future can b

if they had been e-mail chains with somebody like jake sullivan asking for classification changes, you're telling me that the fbi would grant a security clearance to that person? >> i'm not -- i hope i'm giving a consistent answer. i'm not saying what the answer would be. i'm saying that would be an important determination for anybody. >> and personally, i think that sounds like a bit of a political answer. because i can't imagine that the fbi would grant a security clearance to somebody with that fact pattern. do you agree or disagree with that? >> i'll say what i said before. very hard to answer a hypothetical. i'll repeat it. it would be a very important determination to suitability information. >> did hillary clinton do anything wrong? >> what do you mean by wrong? >> i think it's self-evident. >> i'm a lawyer, investigator and i hope a normal human being. >> do you really believe there should be no consequence for hillary clinton in how she dealt with this? >> i didn't say -- i hope folks remember what i said on tuesday. i didn't say there is no consequence for someone who violates t

that is why the smackdown from jake sullivan, brian fallon, john podesta, they are saying the governor of virginia is flat wrong and also puts more pressure on tim kaine because clinton in her conversations with tim kaine before choosing him as the nominee had to get him to back down from his previously held position in support of the trade deal. which he had always endorsed. so you've got a little awkwardness there just as tim kaine is going to be taking the stage here tonight on behalf of the ticket. >> andrea mitchell, thank you so much, that was a terrific interview with terry mcauliffe, he will be tom robert's guest next half hour. be sure to stay tuned for that. >>> meanwhile jackie spear, a democrat from california sits on the house armed services committee and is out here with me now. thanks so much. >> my pleasure. >> i want to play more of what we just heard from donald trump about russia's role in finding those messing clinton e-mails. let's take a listen. >> mook, i saw him on television, and they asked him about russia and the hacking. by the way, they hacked, they probabl

jake sullivan has been widely talked about as a future national security adviser for clinton. you know, will there be a cloud over that, over him because of this. and finally, the last thing worth pointing out, jim comey was nominated by president obama in 2013, he has a ten-year term. he is going to be serving through the next -- the full term of the next president of the united states. if that is president clinton, it is going to be very interesting to watch the relationship between a president clinton and an fbi director like jim comey, who has so publicly rebuked her. >> the best thing that could happen to hillary clinton is another fiasco investigation like the benghazi investigation where a bunch of incompetent publicity hounds chased secretary clinton around a desk. i mean, this is just the exact worst thing the republicans have. >> i said lost word to michael but, you know, jeffrey jumped in. he always has to get the last word. >> i apologize to you and to michael. >> no need to apologize. now he had the last word. thanks for coming in. the other guys are old hat to th

jake sullivan says they had issues sending secure fax. they're working out. hillary clinton since to jake sullivan if they cannot turn into non-paper with no identifying heading and send nonsecure, so you are telling me it is a classified piece of information that she is taking off the header, and she is instructing them to send it in a nonsecure format? is that not intent? director comey: that caught my attention when i first saw it. when she explained during our interview, other incidences as well, what she meant was by making it into a nonclassified document, that is what a non-paper is in their world. i don't need classified stuff. chairman: why take off the heading? why take off the heading if it is what we turn into a nonclassified document? director comey: i assume because it would not be classified anymore. you would have a header, what she said during her interview. chairman: that she wanted to be technically correct. director comey: she was saying send me an unclassified document. take the header off. turn it into a non-paper. i've never heard that

jake sullivan did not mince words. we had been hearing in the last few days increasingly from clinton campaign officials, stepping up their own rhetoric in terms of suggesting not only is this perhaps russian interference trying to play a role in american elections, which is somewhat unprecedented, but donald trump himself laying a willing and able role in that. to have him say today, perhaps willst, -- jest --we were hear people say that a president should not be making those comments, even if in jest. these e-mails have been deleted from her server, among those not turned over to the public, to investigators investigating that issue. i wonder if some of the speakers, especially vice president biden, president obama , we will also hear from leon panetta, the former cia director -- they may not need to redraft many of their remarks because a lot of what they were going to talk about that they may want to say in response to what trump said today was already on their mind. as i was walking into this arena, we see these p

eastern politico will be hosting a discussion with chris coons, adam schiff and jake sullivan. a discussion on foreign policy under a hillary clinton administration. that's live on c-span at 12:15 p.m. eastern. later back on c-span2, representatives from the clinton and santos campaign considers the future of the democratic party live at 2:20 p.m. eastern on c-span2. 3:30 p.m. senator chuck schumer and reporter paul can discuss the democratic agenda in the 2016 election. that takes place at the city townhouse in philadelphia live right on c-span2 again start at 3:30 p.m. eastern. >> tonight hillary clinton becomes the first woman to accept a major political parties nomination for president of the united states. and with c-span yet many convenient options for watching the entire speech without any interruptions. watcher historic acceptance speech live on c-span, listen to it on the c-span reader app, watch it live or on-demand on your desktop, tablet or smartphone at c-span.org. hillary clinton's historic acceptance speech tonight on c-span, the c-span reader app and c-span.org.

. >> now i spoke of that news conference to clinton policy director jake sullivan. he said that this is the first time a major party candidate had ever called on foreign power to commit espionage, this against a political opponent. that's not hyperbole. russia is a global menace led bay devious thug. putin should stay out of this election. this is a controversy that is not going away, kelly. >> and perhaps that's what he was looking for. thank you, john. >> be sure to watch cnbc's special coverage of the democratic convention tonight. beginning at 10:00 p.m. eastern time. kelly and carl, whole gang will be there. you don't want to miss it. >> stay up with us. >> evercore is out and they beat wall street estimates with both revenue and earnings. that stock down a fraction at $50.42. >> and jones by evercore ceo, ralph. >> good to see pup. >> what the environment like? how is confidence? >> deal environment is very good. confidence is not bouyant. with strong finance rates andvilleable credit and visibility about the direction of the economy are all in place. we look

and you found out that they had multiple devices, if there had been e-mail chains with somebody like jake sullivan asking for classification changes, you're telling me that the fbi would grant a security clearance to that person? >> i'm not -- i hope i'm giving a consistent -- i'm not saying what the answer would be, i'm saying that would be an important consideration in a suitability determination for anybody. >> and it's just, personally, i just think that sounds like a bit of a political answer because i can't imagine that the fbi would grant security clearance to somebody with that fact pattern. do you agree or disagree with that? >> i'd say what i said before. again, it's very hard to answer a hypothetical. i'll repeat it, it would be a very important consideration in a suitability determination. >> did hillary clinton do anything wrong? >> what do you mean by "wrong"? >> i think it's self-evident. >> well, i'm a lawyer, i'm an investigator and i'm, i hope, a normal human being. >> do you really believe there should be no consequence for hillary clinton in how she dealt with -- >> we