now, syria. there's really very little i can say to introduce this terrible subject either i sort of skimmed through the thicket before i came here this morning -- figures. one source suggests that already since 2011, 6.6 million internal refugees, 4.8 million refugees who left the country primarily to jordan, lebanon, turkey and europe, and by all accounts anything between 300-470,000 deaths, and counting. and on top of that an administration whose policies toward syria has gone through many, many zigzags and they guess is right in the middle of a zag or is it the right now as we speak and dmitri will have more to say about that in a moment. but absolutely as zal said, syria is going to be one of the key issues that the two candidates and their sparring partners are going to be confronting in the upcoming presidential debates and the election in november. so without further a due, i'm going to ask zal to give us his views on what on earth is going on in syria, is there any good news, do you see

i want to talk about syria. hadeems to me that we have witnesses here that have given testimony that the best option is a sunni fighting force on the ground. not an american force. iraq, we have issues with shia militia and security after a town is liberated. in private meetings with some of the major players, a have given us information that they are ready to stand up. in saudi arabia's case, potentially 30,000 fighters to syria.sis in they are concerned about a lack of american leadership. they are waiting on the u.s. can you speak to that in a little more detail? a we get into syria, it is much more confused battle space then it was in iraq. today thatfghanistan when a troops liberated the city and turned it over to the police, the taliban and, right back. the question in iraq is different. i am trying to get to syria relative to what kind of lighting force will be able to sustain a long-term effort. especially to hold the ground once it is liberated. mr. mcgurk: the fundamental premise of what we need our lo

ambassador to syria. i agree with almost all i've heard hear today but i've also talked to people who wouldn't agree. so let me put myself for a moment in their shoes. even allowing that osad could hang out to power with russian support in american acquiescence, how does that stabilize syria in that, as was pointed o pointed out, you have 11 million refugees or displaced people and perhaps dimitri could comment but it seems russia might not mind many of the 4.8 million syrians that are in turkey and europe remaining there to trouble nato countries and the like, but how do you put humpty-dumpty back together again since what we would consider the legitimate opposition seems so weak, particularly as was pointed out in terms of military forces on the ground, which are not united in any way. so you commented on that a bit, ambassador, but what you said is all correct, but how do you do it? >> so, zal, would you like to say a few words or all of you? putting humpty-dumpty back together again. >> it would be ve

otherwise he would have a buffer zone on syria. charlie: how do you see the situation today in terms of the last six months of the obama administration? steve: i do not think there'll be much change. we are going into the last months of the obama administration and the president has made his decision. i think the turkish effort to reconcile with the russians presents -- when it comes to syria. the fact that the turkish president had to climb down on the russians, raises the question that he would have to come down on -- and a diplomatic opening could emerge. the fact of the matter is, you have isis and other extremist groups, the other parts of the opposition, and the regime that are all determined to fight this. so that regardless of what kind of leverage that the russians have now the turks have reconciled, ultimately the political actors are on the ground. isis and other extremists, the guard corps and others, they want to protect equities in syria. so it strikes me that as much as the change in turkey's posture and the prospect

not syria was in iraq. so it was growing under the supervision of the american authority in iraq, and they didn't do anything to fight isis at that time. it's been expanding under the supervision of the american airplane and they could have seen the isis using the oil field and exporting oil to turkey. they didn't try to attack any convoy of isis. how could they really be against isis? cannot see. how the russians have seen it from the first day and start attacking. the russian intervention unmasked the american intentions regarding isis and the other terrorist groups of course. >> three years ago, president obama made a threat against you, he drew a red line and then withdrew from that and did not attack you. what do you feel about that? is that the sign of a weak president? >> that part, the united states has been promoting for four years now only good president is ruthless or who should go to war. this is the definition. otherwise, it's going to be a weak president. which is not true. actually, for the a

, how hopeful are you to come into terms with russia on what's happening in syria? >> well, hopeful is the right word. i can't say that i'm confident, because there are very tough issues that are being resolved, but i do reiterate what i said in moscow. we made progress in moscow, and in the last couple of days, as our teams have been working to do the homework that we said that we'd do coming out of moscow, it has been constructive. so, we're going steadily and carefully down a road without making promises to people in public that we can't keep, because i think people are already frustrated enough by what has been happening in syria. so we're going to go methodically. there is a possibility if everybody does what they have said they are prepared to do, that this could change what is happening in syria. so that's our goal. i'm hopeful we can get there, and we're going to do everything in our power to work in good faith in order to try to do so, but nothing that we've done are or doing in this process is based on trusting the word of somebody. it's based on our abili

first, destroying isil of parent tumor in iraq and syria. second, combating isil's metastases, every's metastases, everywhere they emerge around the world. three, and most important, supporting our government, law enforcement, homeland security, and intelligence partners that they protect the homeland and our people. i can be miss meeting at a critical time, we now have momentum in this fight and clear results on the ground in iraq and syria. together we made the further plans for coming operations and the additional commitments we identified that will need to ensure our coalition delivers isil the last defeat it deserves. thanks thanks to the hard work and sacrifice of our local partners and our servicemembers, as well as additional contributions from the nations that participated last week, we seize opportunities, reinforce gains, taken the fight to the enemy. we are not going to rest. as recent terror attacks around the world remind us, is isil safe haven threat not only the lives of the iraqi and syrian people but also the security of ou

border with syria. have you got the situation where assad and syria doesn't like erdogan, thinking that he, in many ways helped underline him by letting foreign fighters flow into syria to fight him. you have such unstable region, area rich in oil when you look at iraq and kurdish area of iraq and how turkey is sort of the -- is a transit point for energy. i mean, it is so incredibly important. we just all sit and watch sort of as voyeurs. meanwhile i should say that president president obama and secretary kerry have spoken and they said that we, meaning the world, should support an elected government. which would be to support erdogan who is conservative and islamist and he -- and the people have written up against him are in the military are the secular ones. so it's strange just watching, isn't it, benjamin? >> it's actually often sort of misleading. when you look at turkey from the western to recognize you see istanbul. you see a very westward leaning country. but, the vast majority of turkey is rur

since the war broke out in syria, hundreds of thousands of refugees have found sanctuary here. among them are many syrian journalists. one of them is a young reporter, who we'll call ahmad. he's been researching the brutal atrocities committed by the so-called islamic state. he no longer feels safe in turkey and lives in hiding. after a long wait for an interview, we meet him in an empty playground on the edge of town: >> my family lived for a while in an is-controlled area. before they were able to flee, they were threatened repeatedly because of an article i wrote. then is started threatening me directly, writing that they would find me and kill me.... i can work from home, and i don't leave my apartment unless it's absolutely necessary. and i change address regularly. his fears are not unfounded. in mid-may, his colleague mohammad zahar al-shurgat was shot point-blank on this street corner in broad daylight. al-shurgat had also published material on the crimes committed by is in syria. >> it happened over there on the pavement. the gunman fled on foot. we were just sitting h

syria. as i have said before, the russians got off on the wrong foot in cereal. -- in syria. they said they were coming to fight isil and they would assist with the political transition in syria towards a post assad government, put back together and give people the future they deserve. they have not done either of those things. i'm hopeful that they will do both of those things, and i think that's what secretary kerry's talks are all about. we have a channel which is focused on safety. that is a professional working channel befor between us. current follow-up, you are well known to be skeptical of the russians and some of the things their military has done. so really straight up, are you willing, are you in favor of an expanded effort for military cooperation with the russians? inside syria? most people in this town think that you are not. sec. carter: if the russians would do the right thing in syria, and that is an important condition, as in all cases with russia, we're willing to work with them. that is what we have been urging them to do since they came in. that is the ob

they say, look he's back from syria, he's fighting for islam. it is a kind of hero worship. >> mohammed was able to hide out with friends for a few months. he even went to pray regularly in his old mosque. his friend was incredulous. >> i don't want him here. he's sick, he even tried to get a kalashnikov here. i don't know if he was planning an attack. but if you put two and two together. i called the police but they just said, if you see him, contact us. i didn't believe it. i don't know what they were thinking. >> mohammed returned to syria in the fall of 2015. now his old friend fears he'll return to germany this summer. so, is anything being done to stop him? we head to the office of the federal prosecutor to find out. officials there don't want to comment on specific cases. they say it could hamper their investigations. but they assure us that they monitor such returns closely and are prepared for the worst-case scenario. >> anyone can carry out a terrorist attack, whether they're self-radicalised or returning from syria. they're dangerous

and let us be clear, in syria today more than double the people died in iraq have died in syria, is the worst refugee crisis since world war ii and that is when we did not intervene. >> [inaudible question] what is the fundamental disagreement with -- he says that you went to war when there was no imminent threat from saddam, he does say that the process authorizing the war there is no founding in preparation of the aftermath, and that our troops were inadequately resource and therefore put in undue risk. now you've said two things today, on the one hand you have created the impression that you are apologizing but you have also say that you stand by your decision to go to war. so what i am wondering and what are you apologizing for today? >> for the mistake. >> what mistakes. >> the mistake some planning and process i absolutely acknowledge. i accept responsibility and i'm not passing it to someone else. i i accept full responsibility for those mistakes. it is not inconsistent with that. to state that i believe we took the right decision and the difficulty with a report like this is

now you're right, there are people from iraq who then went into syria but it was in the chaos of syria at exactly the same point by the way, in the chaos of syria that that ungovernable space that is where isis came into being. they headquartered themselves in raqqa and went back over the border into iraq my point, you know we had the debate about syria these last years. i agree when you leave the space ungovernable that is where terrorism breeds. but non-intervention can also lead to those spaces being created. partial intervention can lead to spaces being created. one thing i have got to say about this report, i say this with respect, difference between people writing report and taking decisions. nowhere in this report did they say what they believed would have happened if we had taken the decision, well, don't quite advocate it but they imply, nowhere did they say that. now if people are going to say the decision was wrong, they have at least to consider the points that i'm making that saddam might have gone back and recans statuted his program -- reconstituted is had program as ira

he wanted him to focus on assad in syria. so what this is, is an extension of what baghdadi has been trying to do, which is why you see attacks on the united states, istanbul, paris, and brussels. so this operation clearly is a different cell than we might see in others. the problem here is, alisyn, this is a multiple layered problem for all of us. there are some 250,000 missing documents for travel. everything from residency stamps to blank passports all across europe. this is a huge problem. that means they were able to get in very easily, and it reports are correct that they took the weapons and vests with them, that complicates turkey's problem even more and extends into europe because if they can get into turkey, they can move west pretty easily. >> it sure seems like it. mike, what's so interesting is at the same time, we hear about the successes that the u.s. and the coalition are having on hitting isis targets in iraq, but not everyone thinks that this has been a success. in fact, our own barbara starr spoke with the

as he puts it, he wakes up syria. he goes to bed syria and could not stop even if he wanted to. dmitri says his son was also held with james foley, the american journalist who was killed, and the british photographer who is still being held by isis. ahead, republicans have cleared out of cleveland. we have reports on the "ow..." "are you okay?" "yeah, i just got charged for my credit monitoring. now you can go on creditkarma.com and check it out there. it's completely free." "really?" "yeah" "oh, that didn't hurt at all." "yeah, completely painless." "credit karma. give yourself some credit." the republican national convention is over in cleveland, and now the party moves toward the main event -- the final months of the fall and presidential campaign. our correspondent wraps at the convention and looks ahead at the campaign. donald trump: friends, delegates, fellow americans, i humbly and gratefully accept your nomination for the presidency of the united states. >> it is a night just one year ago very few ever predicted -- donald trump officially the gop nominee and his success

there are sharply differences of view about what the future of syria and iraq should look like. so i drk it's important for two very large important and influential countries in the golf region to be ab gulf region to finds some -- we're hoping some of the more rational actors inside of iran are going to recognize that there needs to be some type of accommodation with the saudi leadership and saudi government and in my engagements with the saudis and i do have leads on engagement with saudi arabia, they are interested in pursuing that if they feel as though the iranian leadership is generally interested in pursuing something other than antagonistic relationship. >> is that something the u.s. is trying to persuade them of? >> i think one of the real motivating factors behind the jcpoa, was to tamp down the tensions that were rising as a result of the program in the gulf with the ultimate aim of having the gulf states, ones that are in that region, find a better way to communicate with one another, first of all and secondly see whether or not there can be repairing of those relati

i don't think syria will go into a 7-year war like lebanon. it will eventually come to a head in one way or the other. i wish it would be sooner rather than later. don't think it has to be 400,000 people dead. in 1992 we started calling out for it and had to wait until the end of 1995 when 8000 men and boys were killed. don't think we want to wait until there is a genocide. president obama made a tactical decision in 2013, he did not want to get engaged in a third middle eastern war because he was elected on a platform to get out of wars. there was a great cost, the rise of isis. they didn't come out of nowhere. the result of the failure in iraq and the result of our own policy of not paying enough attention. if i thought isis on the ground in 2012, why was the world so surprised when mosul finally fell. we have to have accountability because we allowed our compassion to become fatigued and that is a very dangerous thing for us to become complacent. i want people to be upset, shook up, it is the truth and i think it is important that we digest

step up strikes in syria and iran. >> iraq, not iran. >> iraq. sorry. >> well, just on that point, hollande is quite convinced it's an islam attack otherwise he would not have made those comments talking about, sirria and iraq. what the french are hinting at at least is this has been directed by the dying members of the islamic state in syria and iraq, even if it hasn't been panned by them and as a result he intends to use france in order to assist in the campaign to drive them off the territory they currently occupy in those country. >> alan, thank you so much for speaking with us this morning. we're going to take a quick break. head to facebook where we're taking a look at the fwloegloba reaction to the attacks in nice. stay with us. we're back in two. p?p?h it's not a quick fix. p?p?h it's my decision to make beauty last. roc retinol started visibly reducing my fine lines and wrinkles in one week. and the longer i use it the better it works. retinol correxion from roc. methods, not miracles. welcome back to "street signs." at least 84 people

some have left for syria and come back to france to strike us on french territory. we have become the favorite s,rget of these terrorist individuals who have never gone to the homeland of jihad that are manipulated by the terrorist organization, individuals who have never left france or been ofdated by isis, but act out mimicry, be it individuals known to the police who have criminal records or unknown, be they individuals who have already been entranced for ordinary infractions or for terrorist , or individuals w have no criminal record at all. integrated or not, in all of these places, they are the slogans of these terrorist organizations, and act out of these .nstructions our thoughts go to all the , those, dead and injured who are present on the scenes of these crimes who are traumatized. ,his morning at 9:25 a.m. terrorism struck agagain in frae . two individuals carrying knives entered the church during the morning mass and took's hostages the six people present in the church, the priest, three nuns, and a couple of worshipers. nun managed to escape and give t

a rack and syria will be a great test for that. -- iraq and to syria will be a great test for that. hopefully from this discussion today and tomorrow we will take a step forward on a new that respects human rights, equal citizenship, religious freedom, and religious tolerance. they you very much. [applause] >> we will get started with our first panel. >> i would like to thank the center and the state department for hosting the discussion. it is an honor and deeply humbling to be here. also deeply disappointing because it means we have failed to prevent genocide crimes against humanity and ethnic cleansing in iraq and syria. it also means we failed to protect those communities adequately. it means we are failing to assist them as we struggle to find ways to protect the communities in what has been now two years of exile. said ofa remarkable speakers. people i have met on trips to northern iraq. people who carried the difficult giving voice to their community and serving them. to take care of their spiritual, emotional, and physical needs. it is a deep honor to hear directly from you.

my question is concerning the talk about syria. you said now that state for transition and neighbors are convinced there is no solution. does this include russia and iran? and the other part of the question is what power does the european union have to convince people on the ground? thank you. >> our own neighbors -- russia and iran, for sure, are convinced. i think that actually they both might be worried that there could be an all military approach to the process because it could be come a trap for both of them. some people have spoke or written about in afghanistan for russia which is not the case today. russia has a muslim population so the risks are high. but i see russia and iran are aware of the fact that the political setting is the only way. there might be some doubt in some other degree on the effectiveness of a political solution. my simple suggestion is that after six years of work, if there was, that is why because they have no long wj problems. that is the americans. even if the british could argue. in the military so

let us be clear, in syria more than double people that died in iraq died in syria. worst refugee crisis since world war ii. that is where we didn't intervene and remove the dictator. >>> you have a fundamental disagreement with chilcot. chilcot says you went to war when there was no imminent threat from saddam. he does say the legal process for authorizing the war was unsatisfactory and no proper planning and planning for aftermath and there are troops who were inadequately resourced and put at undue risk. now, you have said two things today. on one hand you have created the impression that you are apologizing, but you also say that you stand by your decision to go to war. so what i'm unclear about and i suspect people watching this are unclear about. what are you apologizing for today? >> for the mistakes. >> what mistakes do you acknowledge? >> mistakes on planning and process i absolutely acknowledge. i accept responsibility and i'm not passing responsibility off to someone else. i accept full responsibility for those mistakes. but it is not inconsistent with tha

its ad lost 37 -- 47% of tessitore in iraq and syria. they say this is great news then turn around and suddenly they hit the istanbul airport. pete: is this attack going to change the approach that american airports take in their security? >> i don't know how it could, really. you could have more security guards who are heavily armed but that leaves bus stations and train stations open. the fear here is less than isis will get someone on a plane to come from syria tos the -- the u.s. the fear is orlando. somebody will pick up a gun and say i did this for the islamic state. pete: what has been the political response across europe. there's been a lot of concern about turkey's proximity to syria. how are people responding throughout the continue sentiment? >> before the brexit vote, there are leaflets that showed turkey and its border with syria. the message was clear, if we stay in the. u., turkey will stay in the. up and suddenly you have this influx of terrorists. before the brexit vote, it was just the literal text. pete: i think many p

there are 4 million refugees outside of syria, living primarily in jordan and lebanon and turkey. and so there's an enormous need for international organizations like care and the larger global community to help supply support for shelter, for food, for education, the most basic necessities, to allow people to continue and to start to rebuild their lives. >> one of the things i remember when i was in kosovo with care in 1999 and 2001 were huge refugee camps with thousands of people in them. and they were clean, and they were well-organized, and it was a great structure for people who had no place to go. but that is completely different now with this group of refugees. the model is changing. >> the model is changing. there still are camps, and care is active in supporting those camps, but 80% of the refugees are actually living outside of the camps. they're living in local communities. and you can imagine the responsibility that this brings to a country like jordan, where 1 out of every 10 people living in jordan now is a refugee. in lebanon, it's one out of every four. so it would

the productive dialogue between charon and syria. there are sharp differences of view about what the future of syria and iraq should look like. so it is important for two large and important and influential countries. and the gulf region, to be able to find some type of -- we are hoping from cash for some of the actors to recognize that -- inside of iran are going to recognize that there needs to be a type of accommodation with the saudi leadership and government and in my engagements with the saudis, and i do have a relationship with saudi arabia, they are interested in pursuing that if they feel as though the iranian leadership is generally interested in pursuing something other than antagonistic relationships. judy: is that something the u.s. is trying to persuade them of? mr. brennan: i think one of the real motivating factors behind the jcpoa in addition to stopping iran's pursuit of the program, it was to tamp down the tensions arriving as a result of that with the ultimate aim of having the gulf states, the ones in that region

look at iraq and syria. but isis have very clearly in their online propaganda written about wanting to move east, about trying to take over these majority muslim countries, 146 million muslims in bangladesh and that is seen by all the terror groups as a great breeding ground for them. bangladesh had traditionally been relatively moderate but a has really moved, moving the wrong way, and we have seen a number of people join isis in syria and iraq from that part of the world and also the philippines. it really is a region which has been overlooked, but if you look at the sheer numbers out there, it's remarkable that it's taken so long, and here we are today. there were warning signs. we're seeing some tweets which possibly heralded this attack. suggested it's couple of days ago. what's next, and all the hallmarks of an isis, al qaeda style attack, hostages, multiple gunmen, explosive devices, and now the see how the police respond to it. typically you would want them to go in as quickly as possible, not waste

as i said before the russians got off on the wrong foot in syria. they said they were coming in to fight isil. that they would assist the political transition in syria towards a post assad government that could run the country and put that terribly broken country back together and give the people the future they deserve. they haven't done either of those things. so what i am still hopeful they will do both of those things. i think that's what secretary kerry's talks, which are very frequent with the russians, are all about. but meanwhile we have a channel which is focused on safety issues and we maintain that and that is a very professional working channel between us. >> the follow on. you're well known to be skeptical of the russians and some of the things that their military has done. so really straight up, are you willing -- are you in favor now of an expanded effort for military cooperation with the russians inside syria? because most people in this town think you are not. >> if the russians would do the right thing in syria -- and that's an imp

iraq and syria was a major success that they could point to. the overall volume of trade was not that great but it was contributing to a diminishing marginalization if you will of the areas boring those countries. the conflict in syria has dramatically reversed that trend, security conditions in the southern frontier deteriorated and they close the border with syria to commercial traffic, meanwhile big dig has also blocked trade from turkey to protest some of the positions that they have taken. in addition, tourism which is a very important contributed to the gdp in turkey has taken a terrible hit. as a result of the refugee crisis and as a result of the increasing spill over into southern turkey of the violence from syria. in terms of government spending on the refugees come in the first five years that, from 2011 - 2015 turkish government spent 9,000,000,000 dollars. the amount that it is spending per month is a gradually increasing to a point of 500,000,000 dollars per month. that spending hundred million dollars per month. that's been a con

i have said before the russians got off on the wrong foot in syria. they said they were coming in to fight isil and that they would assist the political transition in syria towards a post-assad government that can run the country and put that terribly broken country back together and give the people the future they deserve. they haven't done either of those things so i think i'm still hopeful that they will do both of those things and i thinks that's what secretary carries talks which are very frequent russians are all about. meanwhile we have a channel which is focused on safety issues and we maintain that and that's a very professional working channel between us. >> can i follow up on ask you something else? you are well-known to these skeptics and some of the things they are military have done. so really straight up are you in favor now of an expanded effort for military cooperation with the russians inside of syria because most people in this town think you are not. >> if the russians would do the right thing in syria and that's an important condi

secondly we keep talking about this, going to war with isis entails syria? >> boots on the ground is a sticking point for you. >> first of all i hate the term in general because it undermines the fact that there are human beings in those boots on the ground but we already have boots on the ground in both countries, iraq and syria, 5000 of them as the floor stands today. we had a navy seal die, these are combat troops, why are we undermining the role? >> the language signifies escalation. >> it is reality. >> we are talking 5000, 100,000. >> at a certain point something becomes a war where it is not otherwise, is it 20,000, 50,000, 100,000, 12,000. >> is it another orlando? how many people are dying here? >> he wants to expand the war, what does that entail. >> what he wants to have a war -- >> is that 50,000? >> i worry about somebody calling for an intelligence surge. none of us are sure of that but back to what happened in orlando. we were talking about the shooter in orlando on fbi radar for how long and -- >> if we can't handle it here, what is the impul

and let us be clear, in syria today more than double the people have died in iraq have died in syria with the worst refugee crisis since world war ii. and that is where we didn't intervene and remove the dictator. >> along the roads of that statement. a fundamental disagreement. chill coth said you went to war when there was no imminent threat from saddam. he does say that the legal process for authorizing the war was unsatisfactory. there was no proper planning for the aftermath, that the intelligence was flawed and our troops were inadequately resolved and therefore put an undue risk. now, you have said two things today. on the one hand you have created the impression that you are apologizing but you also say that you stand by your decision to go to war. so what i'm unclear about and i suspect people watching this now are unclear, what are you apologizing for today? >> for the mistakes. >> what mistakes? >> the mistakes on planning and process i abst. louis acknowledge. i accept responsibility. i'm not passing responsibility off to someone else. i accept full responsibility for tho

and so i think we have to disconnect a of what happened with isis in syria, because we have a lot of people radicalized in france, perhaps 10,000, including 40% of converts. we have 40% of this 10,000 christian convert into muslim for the sake of radicalization and filighting with isil. so we have to think about all these issues. >> peter, why do you think this is happening in france? not to single it out, but there do seem to have been a series of attacks in france and it does seem more prone to have these radicalized loners, than say, germany, italy, one doesn't know for sure, but evidence of the last five years, suggests that france may have a special problem? >> and i would add belgium. belgium has had the highest proportion of foreign fighters going to syria, france had the largest number of any western country going to syria and joining isis and other militant groups, and the fact that something like 60% of the french prison population is muslim, and yet only around 8% of the entire population is muslim, reflects the kind of marginalization and criminal nature of this problem.

reporter: syria with multiple checkpoints was considered secure. now it is the singapore -- scene of horror. the attack, the deadliest to hit the city since the beginning of the conflict. several administrative buildings where struck, including the defense office. many of the victims were members of the kurdish security forces. it is not the first time the so-called islamic state has targeted them. most of the inhabitants of the city are kurds and kurdish fighters are a key force battling in the region. last year, kurds captured areas from the jihadist group. at the other end of the country, civilians have been trying to flee by crossing the border into neighboring jordan. but that is no longer an option. jordan has closed the border following deadly attacks by the is. tens of thousands of people have been left to fend for themselves in the desert, without adequate supplies or medical care, many of them will die. their numbers adding to the hundreds of thousands of people who have been killed in syria since the war began. brent: hillary clinton has

they show all the political, ethnic, and religious conflicts that affect us in syria. many a are made the violence spills over to turkey. for us personally, it was not easy to work in there because we were warned that the ins is capable of abducting western foreigners from there and bringing them over to westerners syria. michelle: how dangerous are the terrorists for turkey? gugunnar: the i.s. is very dangerous for turkey right now. numeral or deadly serving -- 4 deadly attacks happen in turkey, and for all of them, the ins -- ththe.s. claimed responsibility. more than 200 people were killed. that shows that obviously turkey is an easy target for them. it is a neighboring country, a predominantly muslim country, but at the samee time, a western hour like, a member of nato, so if they somehow managed to cause chaos in turkey, that would also have effects on the rest of europe. michelleleturkish sesecurity forces are accccused of working with the islamic state. did you find any evidence of this? gunnar: no, no evidence this time, but we have seen earlier, for example, l

and let us be clear, in syria today more than double the people died in iraq have died in syria, is the worst refugee crisis since world war ii and that is when we did not intervene. >> [inaudible question] what is the fundamental disagreement with -- he says that you went to war when there was no imminent threat from saddam, he does say that the process authorizing the war there is no founding in preparation of the aftermath, and that our troops were inadequately resource and therefore put in undue risk. now you've said two things today, on the one hand you have created the impression that you are apologizing but you have also say that you stand by your decision to go to war. so what i am wondering and what are you apologizing for today? >> for the mistake. >> what mistakes. >> the mistake some planning and process i absolutely acknowledge. i accept responsibility and i'm not passing it to someone else. i i accept full responsibility for those mistakes. it is not inconsistent with that. to state that i believe we took the right decision and the difficulty with a report like this is

in syria gave him an opportunity. the civil war in syria gave them a platform. now it's not a few dozen hiding in the western desert; now there's thousands and thousands of foreign fighters that's coming from everywhere. 5,000 from western europe, 6,000 from tunisia, almost 5,000 from the former soviet union, people coming from everywhere. >> narrator: baghdadi finally had what zarqawi promised: a state. he called it isis and established its headquarters in raqqa, provoking a final break with al-qaeda. >> al-baghdadi's success in carving out this islamic state and putting raqqa as its centerpiece, as its capital, is a reflection, again, of a strategy that zarqawi pursues. >> narrator: and inside its territory, isis would rule through violence and fear. >> i get a steady diet of these videos that they put out, so it's, you know, today, they stoned to death a man, you know, because they suspected him for being gay, or they stoned to death a woman, or they put a man in a car and exploded it, or they skinned somebody aliv

they would love to draw the united states into a ground war in syria. they actually think the end times could be hastened if we had some great confrontation in that region. so we've got to be smart about this, not get pushed or pulled into taking action that doesn't have some positive effects it needs to have. i would be very focused on intelligence surge, i would be very focused on working with our partners and allies and intensify our efforts against the idealogues who peddle radical jihadism online. >> one of the other things trump mentioned in the call in to fox was basically being very critical of you for wanting, he says, to increase the number of syrian refugees coming to this country by 550%. how do you respond to that? is it, you know, can there be proper vetting? is that a real security concern, a justifiable security concern people in america should have? >> trump has said this repeatedly and has been called out for his blatant lies about it. i have said when it comes to refugees, we should only let people into this country after we have thor

foremost hundreds of french fighters who have gone to fight in iraq and syria. we can only assume some have come back home when the ring leader of the paris attacks in november spoke to someone who then spoke with the police, he claimed to have come from iraq and syria with 90 different people. then you have to look at the demographics of the country. this is a country that has a large muslim population but many of those muslims feel disin franchised and aren't part of the french fabric of society so you have resentment and groups like isis and al-qaeda are able to prey on that resentment. france is a proudly secular country and that goes against the grain of everything isis stands for. we've seen the so-called burka ban banning women from banning the garment where you can only see their eyes. that also is going to anger groups like isis and al-qaeda. it's become a prime target. it's in the center of europe. europe a continent with very few borders. there's an agreement that allows people to cross between countries would showing any identification like crossing

if someone in syria is in turkey or some part of syria that's not under the control of a persecuting group, that that person be able to apply for asylum in the u.s. or canada or qatar or wherever. and then travel directly to that place of refuge. [ inaudible ] >> well, so, for example, if the doors are left completely open, then that means when asylum seekers come to a place like europe, and if they have their refugee status determination, and at the end of that are found not to be -- to fit the refugee cry tia, then what happens? typically, people are not deported. and in general, i'm not in favor of mags deportations but i would rather have a system that makes it possible for people to come to europe or another place of refuge, have a serious refugee status determination than the current system which has this very, very deliberately high cost and human lives because of the impossible transit. >> this is a question for professor fitzgerald. leaving aside the refuse -- just considering economic issues and cultural issues, how many refugees per year, in the coming years, do you think

syria, the reset with russia, syria, where assad's -- and we could go on and on and on. if it's going to be a debate about foreign policy she's going to have some very, very real problems. >> basically comes out relatively unscathed in this benghazi report. >> yeah, i would agree with that essentially because the one thing missing in this whole case is the kind of relentless pursuit of the story that used to characterize these scandals. i'm talking about by the media. that has never been present here. there's been a couple of news organizations, this one being one of them, that has pursued this story with some vigor. it is an enormous force multiplier in these kinds of cases when the media are on the loose and after the story. they never have been. they aren't now. there was in this case, in my opinion, unmistakably a cover-up from the jump. and that became pretty evident early on and it's even more clear today, there's an old axiom, used to be in washington, that it isn't the misdeed that will cause you trouble, it the cover-up. that seems no longer to be true at least

syria, the reset with russia, syria, where assad's -- and we could go on and on and on. if it's going to be a debate about foreign policy she's going to have some very, very real problems. >> basically comes out relatively unscathed in this benghazi report. >> yeah, i would agree with that essentially be thing missing in this whole case is the kind of relentless pursuit of the story that used to characterize these scandals. i'm talking about by the media. that has never been present here. there's been a couple of news organizations, this one being one of them, that has pursued this story with some vigor. it is an enormous force multiplier in these kinds of cases when the media are on the loose and after the story. they never have been. they aren't now. there was in this case, in my opinion, unmistakably a cover-up from the jump. and that became pretty evident early on and it's even more clear today, there's an old axiom, used to be in washington, that it isn't the misdeed that will cause you trouble, it the cover-up. that seems no longer to be true at least as it relates

these are things we see in iraq, afghanistan, syria. we've never seen it domestically but we're going to and i think this is a clear demonstration of that. >> everyone stick around. when we come right back, deadly air strikes hit the heart of isis. will that disrupt new terror plots? home, car, life insurance obviously, ohhh... but with added touches you can't get everywhere else, like claim free rewards... or safe driving bonus checks. even a claim satisfaction guaranteeeeeeeeeee! in means protection plus unique extras only from an expert allstate agent. it's good to be in, good hands. a moto light up the runway.color schwarzkopf presents color ultime. it's color blend formula locks pigment in for brilliant, vibrant colors. discover runway colors that last. color ultime, developed with claudia schiffer, from schwarzkopf. world saleilton is on honors members save up to 25% on brands like hampton, doubletree, hilton garden inn, and waldorf astoria so stop clicking around. book direct at hilton.com now that's satisfaction. freshly made in

in syria and iraq. announced before , theice attack strengthening of our military support to the iraqi army. decided as part of the anti-isis coalition made available to the iraqi forces, artillery means they will be on the ground next month. be aircraft carrier will deployed. the 14th ofthis on july. it will be deployed at the end of september. andill allow us to step up intensify strikes against terrorist groups in syria and iraq with our jets. i have asked the defense parliament asform of next week. it is not a question of changing the nature of our intervention. our allies in iraq and syria. we are not deploying troops on the ground. we have advice to provide .raining it is not our soldiers who are waging war on the ground in's area -- in syria and iraq. defending is what it holds most dearly. what constitutes it, freedom and security. without which, freedom cannot be expressed. we know the risks exist. we must reduce these risks. peopleprotect all french and deploy all resources, legal and human me

from a waging war, what i would submit is most of the middle east is watching the images come in from syria, from libya. barrel bombings every day. this is a broader war on peaceful nations. this is a war against nations that are not in this state of constant war. i spend the majority of my day looking through isis propaganda videos, looking through horrible images of bombings in syria and libya. if you live in the middle east and you turn on al jazeera, that's what you're getting day in and day out.

>> the question is, there's a lot of attention to the russian actor in the syria isis problem in the middle east. china is very concerned about domestic terrorism. they are particularly concerned about terrorism, lace to the weavers and fishing john where are there are some external organizations that claim to be trying to stimulate resistance or separatist forces in the area. clearly if there was a linkage emerged between isis and weaker terrorism in chen-chang, the chinese would treat this as a top priority issue. there is cooperation and intelligence exchange among countries that are concerned about this type of terrorism. and i think china is part of that process. i don't expect that china would become interventionist on those issues because of its concern over the side of terrorism they would probably step up cooperation with countries that were in a position to uncover intelligence that would be useful to china in dealing with any potential internal threats that were connected to that. but china tends to be critical of intervention in other countries and issues and while china