>> the nafta opened the market. whe first negotiated mexico's tariff were three times higher than ours. we opened up the industrialized commodities market, eliminated the restrictions on agriculture, " -- opened up a broad range of services, it was the first agreement that was that broad. at the time we were in difficulty in the multilateral negotiations. the advances we made in the nafta brought members of the then-gatt back to the table. we finished the uruguay round. host: same question to you. the impact of nafta on the global economy. guest: it didn't measure up to its promises and caused a lot of damage. before nafta the u.s. had a trade surplus with mexico and a deficit with canada. since then it has become a major part of our global deficit. we have a $200 billion dollar deficit from a surplus, to $90 billion of deficit. the u.s. has lost 3 million manufacturing jobs. that is one out of five of every manufacturing job in the u.s. our real wages have been flat. the median real wages. even worker productivity

in nafta it went farther. a guaranteed a minimum standard of treatment and we did not go to domestic court to do you disputes. suddenly all these risks that might is typical for good or even for low wages, gone because the trade agreements subsidized you moving. >> host: if you want to get involved is a listing are watching a want to get involved in our discussion regarding nafta and free trade agreements, the numbers are on the screen. want to show some statements that have been made by senators barack obama and hillary clinton regarding nafta and then you get back to the discussion. >> i said i will renegotiate nafta. obviously, would have to say to canada and mexico is exactly what we're going to do. >> let me be clear. you will get outcome to notify mexican and canada nafta is gone in six months speak with no. i will say we will opt out of nafta unless we renegotiate it and we will negotiate the terms that are favorable to all of america. >> i will make sure that we renegotiate in the same with secretary c

nafta is one of those issues. i try to explain to the members of congress this morning not in their particular district, textile or apparel workers, that their jobs were not in danger. i think that is the issue on an overall subject. in my opinion, as i explained, the workers in your district will be benefited by nafta. you may disagree, but the long-term effect of nafta is what we need to consider. what is best for our nation over the years. we do a lot of work in latin america, much more knowledge in my mind, then when i was president. we formed a council of a freely elected heads of government, we have 23 members of this council. everyone of them in this hemisphere has been elected in a free and open and fair process. leading to a democracy. some are still incumbent. 17 have shared with me in the last few days the hope that i will express to the district of their support of a north american free trade agreement. these are not for mexico, none of them. but they say this as a test of their relationship between un

. -- support for nafta. history, is full of for over 12 years under president ford, reagan, and bush, i had the privilege to see historic decisions made here at the white house, decisions that were fraught with consequences and decisions that were of the greatest importance. one of the most important of these decisions was to negotiate the north american free trade agreement. all of us here today i know know that nafta is very much in america's vital national interest. i think when national interests are at stake, there can be no consideration of bipartisan advantage or political difference. i think that all questions a party should stop at the water's edge, and with the vote on nafta only two weeks away, we have reached that sure. -- shore. so i am here, mr. president, to make sure this is passed. i think the fears of working men and women in this country are very understandable. but i think that the irresponsibility of those that exploit those fears is absolutely inexcusable. so our task is to persuade ame

before it nafta, the u.s. had a slight trade surplus with mexico canada.ade surplus with since then, it turned into a deficit. we now have almost a $200 billion deficit with the nafta countries, from a surplus with mexico to $90 billion of deficit. during the period of nafta, the u.s. has lost 3 million manufacturing jobs. that is one out of every five manufacturing jobs in the united states, and real wages, as we have traded those jobs and replaced them with service jobs, worker productivity doubled. now, and all of that, you would hope that something good happened in mexico, because nothing good happened in the u.s., but in mexico, according data, some of the farmers were damaged by the dumping of u.s. corn, and unemployment increased, so the jobs that were to be created under nafta did not happen. it was supposed to be 200,000 jobs a year. the increase in u.s. income did not happen, and with mexico, the reduction in poverty and immigration did not happen. to the contrary, a lot of people really suffered aft

she supported bill clinton's nafta. she supported china's entrance into the world trade organization. she supported job killing trade deals, and that was a really bad one, with south korea and she supports the transpacific partnership. not now, but very soon, if she wins. that will be a disaster for detroit and everybody else. [applause] let's talk about south korea, because it is perfectly illustrating the broken promises that have hurt so many american workers. president obama and the usual so-called experts who have been wrong about every trade deal for decades predicted that the trade deal with south korea would increase our exports to south korea by more than $10 billion, resulting in 70,000 jobs. like clinton's broken promises to new york, these pledges all turned out to be false. instead of creating 70,000 jobs, it has killed nearly 100,000 jobs according to the economic policy institute. our exports to south korea have not increased at all, but their imports to us have surged more than $15 billion, more than dou

liz: we are moving on to nafta. i want to you to talk about nafta. let me talk about some of the issues that are critical for our coalition and the latino community. elizabeth: please answer the question about nafta. what did you make of donald trump saying he would like to improve nafta and not rescind it? >> it's another example of what we have seen from trump, changing positions and policies. as a community we are very worried on the impact his rhetoric has in our community. hate crimes against latinos. he's attacking immigrants. liz rsh final word. >> on nafta, many of these mexican workers have suffered. they have had horrible working conditions because of nafta because they never covered labor environmental provisions for mexican workers. guess who promised that, obama. under obama, they have not renegotiated nafta. liz: and no immigration reform. we appreciate your thoughts. donald trump's immigration speech, you may have gone the a preview from his trip to mexico. (announcer vo) who says your desk phone always has to be at your desk? now, wit

years after nafta. the idea that it is some great job destroyer is again simply false. as far as tpp goes, it makes a great political target. president obama is pushing it right now. it is the embodiment of everything that is wrong with trade policies, so people can claim. but the fact is the tpp has some good things and some bad things, but just like nafta, to blame all of wisconsin's manufacturing problems on nafta or the future tpp is just simply false. trump would be far better served looking at some of the problems in our corporate tax sector, regulatory sector and our labor market instead of just blaming china and mexico for what is obviously a much bigger and more complex problem. host: ok scott, what if we didn't go forward with the transpacific partnership? you write in your piece for "national review" that even if it were morally and economically advantageous for the united states to embrace protectionism, it is almost certainly impossible for us to do so. u.s. manufacturers have involved over

michigan lost more than one in four of their manufacturing jobs since nafta. as you know, nafta, one of the worst trade bills in history, maybe -- maybe the worst trade bill ever signed in the history of the world, not only in our country. it is emptied out michigan, it emptied out new england. it emptied out new york state, it emptied out so many of our great companies. they leave and they fire. we end up with devastation, unemployment, we end up with nothing. the bill was signed by bill clinton. supported by hillary clinton. right here in this community, you lost one in seven manufacturing jobs since bill clinton put china into the world trade portion. another hillary clinton backed deal, and he have be backing the transpacific partnership, tpp, if she is elected. just mark your words, just remember, you know it's going to happen, she considered it the gold standard. when she heard me talking about it, she said i can't win this one, so she went against it, he have go back immediately and you saw that when the governor of virginia, her friend, said that would

even bigger and worse than nafta. in fact, ford motor company has announced its opposition to the deal. according to the economic policy institute, the u.s. trade deficit with the proposed tpp member, all of the member countries has cost over 1 million manufacturing jobs in the year 2015. 1 million jobs. by far, the biggest losses occurred in motor vehicles and parts which lost nearly 740,000 manufacturing jobs. what are we doing? michigan ranks first for jobs loss as a share of trade deficit with tpp members. just imagine how many more automobile jobs will be lost if the tpp is actually approved. it will be catastrophic. that's i will withdraw from the deal before that can ever, ever happen. [ applause ] hillary clinton will never withdraw from the tpp. she's bought and paid for by her donors and special interests, 100%. i have previously laid out a detailed seven-point plan for trade reform available on my website. it includes strong protections against currency manipulation. big problem. tariffs against any countri

years after nafta. so the idea that nafta is some great job destroyer for the american manufacturing sector is again simply false. stars tpp goes, it makes a great political target. president obama is pushing it right now. it is embodiment of everything that is wrong with trade policy so people can claim. look the fact is, tpp, has some good things and some bad things but just nafta to blame all of wisconsin's manufacturing problems to nafta or future tpp is simply false. trump would be far better served looking at some problems in our corporate tax sector, our regulatory sector and our labor market, instead of just blaming china and mexico for what's obviously a much bigger and more complex problem. >> host: scott lincicome, what if we didn't go forward with the trans-pacific partnership? you write in the truth about trade, your piece for "national review," morally and economically advantageous for the united states to embrace protectionism, it's almost certainly impossible for it to do so. u.s. manufa

she supported bill clinton's nafta. she supported china's entrance into the world trade organization. she supported job killing trade deals, and that was a really bad one, with south korea and she supports the transpacific partnership. not now, but very soon, if she wins. that will be a disaster for detroit and everybody else. [applause] let's talk about south korea, because it is perfectly illustrating the broken promises that have hurt so many american workers. president obama and the usual so-called experts who have been wrong about every trade deal for decades predicted that the trade deal with south korea would increase our exports to south korea by more than $10 billion, resulting in 70,000 jobs. like clinton's broken promises to new york, these pledges all turned out to be false. instead of creating 70,000 jobs, it has killed nearly 100,000 jobs according to the economic policy institute. our exports to south korea have not increased at all, but their imports to us have surged more than $15 billion, more than dou

nafta is a disaster. it's been a disaster not only for virginia, but for every -- virtually every state. upstate new york, it looks like a war zone. that's why i won so much. and i got the upstate vote in numbers that nobody's seen before. upstate new york, you go to new england, you see the factories, these beautiful old factories that you see were once thriving, thousands and thousands of people working and those people now are doing part-time jobs. they're working two jobs, making less money than they made 18 years ago. i don't know if you saw that statistic where people -- and people in this room, too, people are making less money now in real wages than they made 18 years ago and even longer and they've gotten older and they're working harder. not supposed to be that way, but i've gotten older and i'm working harder, too, to be honest. i didn't need this. i could have enjoyed myself a lot. we're all getting older and we're working hard. it's supposed to be the other way, right? we're getting older and

she supported bill clinton's nafta. she supported china's entrance into the world trade organization. she supported job killing trade deals, and that was a really bad one, with south korea and she supports the transpacific partnership. not now, but very soon, if she wins. that will be a disaster for detroit and everybody else. [applause] korea,alk about south because it is perfectly illustrating the broken promises that have hurt so many american workers. and the usuala so-called experts who have been wrong about every trade deal for decades predicted that the trade deal with south korea would increase our exports to south korea by more than $10 billion, resulting in 70,000 jobs. like clinton's broken promises to new york, these pledges all turned out to be false. instead of creating 70,000 jobs, it has killed nearly 100,000 jobs according to the economic policy institute. our exports to south korea have not increased at all, but their imports to us have surged more than $15 billion, more than doubling our trade deficit

blames detroit's roles nafta. we engage in a trade war with -- charles: well, china is major manufacturing. now that manufacturing has been going to -- >> nafta? detroit has been a hell hole, a liberal experiment hell hole of taxes and spending and predating nafta. way predating nafta. the other thing is if we go this route that he wants to go with china. trillions are not coming back here. that's absurd. so i think he would be better off sticking with realistic stuff and not the -- not demagoguing trade. i just think -- listen, we can get better trade deals. i get it. but it's not going to do what he says it's going to do. charles: governor jim gilmore, i think you might be pleased with the plan? >> i am pleased with the plan. i've been reallying talking about the necessity of economic growth for years now, both through the nonprofittary aggression regress foundation but also in my political campaigns that this is what donald trump must do. get on the right message for the people of the united states, explain the

. -- since nafta. nafta was signed by bill clinton. it is the single ever signeddocument in the history of our country and probably in the history of our world. one-sidedof the most documents i've ever seen. it allowed mexico and places to do unbelievably well at our expense. i will renegotiate nafta that is a disaster. -- tpp was a disaster. hillary was in favor of tpp. she said it was the gold standard. partnership. i don't think it can be worse than not that, but it's going to be as bad as nafta. nafta, but it's going to be as bad as nafta. she said it is the gold standard. she is reading from a teleprompter. it is the gold standard -- oh, boy. our country is in trouble. she said it is the gold standard. when she heard me make a speech and heard me talking negatively about it -- they don't talk evaluation, the single greatest tool is countries are that these countries are using -- so complicated, this agreement. i believe in trade deals. one country at a time. we will have one line. if they don't do well and they don't behave themse

it will be almost -- nothing's as bad as nafta, but it will be almost as bad as nafta. we know from hillary's closest friend that she's planning to ram through tpp, if she's elected. she even called it, as i said, the gold standard. its massage would be a disaster for michigan in particular, for the car industry in particular, for the people of michigan. i won't let it happen. according to the economic policy institute, the united states trade deficit with the proposed tpp member countries cost over 1 million manufacturing jobs in our country in 2015, by far the biggest losses occurred in motor vehicles and parts, which lost nearly 740,000 -- think of that, 740,000 manufacturing jobs. michigan ranks first for jobs lost as a share of state workforce due to trade deficit with tpp members. just imagine how many more automobile jobs will be lost if hillary gets her wish and approves tpp. it will not be pretty. that's why i have announced that we will withdraw from the deal before that deal can ever, ever, ever happen. i have previously laid out a detailed seven-point plan f

pennsylvania has lost one in three manufacturing jobs since nafta. that is massive. since nafta. nafta was signed by bill clinton. [booing] mr. trump: and i believe it is the single worst trade document ever signed in the history of our country and probably in the history of our world. [cheering] mr. trump: it is one of the most one-sided documents that i've ever seen. it allowed mexico and places to do unbelievably well at our expense. all right? did you see where i say i will renegotiate nafta? tpp, disaster. ok. don't worry. don't worry. and hillary was in favor of tpp. she said it was the gold standard. thank you for reminding me. i like this guy. it is the gold standard. tpp, transpacific partnership. is going to be, i don't think it can be worse than nafta. it is not going to be as bad as nafta. tpp, she said, is the gold standard. she's reading it from a teleprompter. it is the gold standard. [laughter] mr. trump: oh, boy. our country is in trouble. [cheering] mr. trump: our country is in trouble. our country is in trouble. so she said it is the gold standard, but when she

nafta did not cause detroit. detroit is in it is state because of years of taxes and liberal policies. businesses have left the united states. detroit and the businesses and manufacturing in the united states is not drying up because of nafta. it is drying up because of a lot of other things including our tax policy here. could we negotiate, could we negotiate better tax deals? yes. you guys you think you will solve the problem of unemployment in this country by being tough on china? it is a lot more difficult than that. trish: a disagreement there. i want to move on to the tax issue. this is important one, perhaps, a place where i'm going to see some agreement on the screen. peter, he is talking about bringing corporate taxes down to 15%. what do you think that is going to do to the american economy? >> well, let me say this, trish. i agree with charlie that there is a lot of things going on here. here what we need to understand about the trump economic plan. it hits four points of the compass. trade, tax policy

we talked about immigration, nafta and ted cruz. aside from those issues, and i know a texan is not a monolithic vote, but what else do they care about from either candidate? what do they want to see on a platform right now? >> i would say the usual issues conservatives care about that are not being that well served, pro-life issues, amendment rights. property rights are the main issues. constitutional rights. the idea of the state having power visa vie the federal government is a big thing for texans and that remains animated today. >> thank you for joining us. we'll see if your predictions are true. >> strange year. >> very strange. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >>> ryan lochte. he won the gold medal, but could he soon lose the cash that normally comes with it? the fallout from lochte's late night gas station mishap continues. >> the fallout in brazil. there is an angry backlash against the behavior of the four swimmers. i'm steve harrigan in rio. that story ahead. >>> final weekend for the olympics in rio. 30 gold medal

she supported bill clinton's nafta. she supported china's entrance into the world trade organization. she supported job killing trade deals, and that was a really bad one, with south korea and she supports the transpacific partnership. not now, but very soon, if she wins. that will be a disaster for detroit and everybody else. [applause] let's talk about south korea, because it is perfectly illustrating the broken promises that have hurt so many american workers. president obama and the usual so-called experts who have been wrong about every trade deal for decades predicted that the trade deal with south korea would increase our exports to south korea by more than $10 billion, resulting in 70,000 jobs. like clinton's broken promises to new york, these pledges all turned out to be false. instead of creating 70,000 jobs, it has killed nearly 100,000 jobs according to the economic policy institute. more than doubling our trade deficit with that country. what else is new? it is happening with everyone. the transpacific part

it's a vote for nafta. our an oomph trade deficit with mexico has risen from close to zero, think of that, close to zero in 1993 to almost $60 billion today. our total trade deficit in goods hit nearly $800 billion last year, total trade deficit, almost $800 billion. this is a strike at the heart of michigan and our nation as a whole. according to the bureau of labor statistics, before nafta went into effect there were 285,000 auto workers in michigan. today that number is only 160,000 auto workers. detroit is still waiting for hillary clinton's apology. she has been a disaster, obama has been a disaster. i expect detroit will get that apology right around the same time hillary clinton turns over the 33,000 emails she deleted. [applause] hillary clinton's trans-pacific partnership will be an even bigger disaster for the auto industry, he believe me, even bigger and even worse than nafta. in fact, ford motor company announced its opposition to the deal. according to the economic policy institute, the u.s. tr

even bigger and even worse than nafta. in fact, ford motor company has announced his opposition to the deal. according to the economic policy institute, the u.s. trade deficit with the proposed tpp member, all the member countries, it has cost over one million manufacturing jobs in one million5, jobs. by far, the biggest losses occurred in motor vehicles and nearly 740,000st manufacturing jobs. what are we doing? michigan ranks first for jobs lost due to the trade deficit with tpp members. just imagine how many more automobile jobs will be lost if the tpp is actually approved. it will be catastrophic. that is why i have announced we will withdraw from the deal before that can ever happen. [applause] donald trump: hillary clinton will never withdraw from tpp. she is bought, controlled and paid for by her donors and special interests. 100%. [applause] donald trump: because my only interest is the american people, i have previously laid out and detailed, seven point plan available on the website. it includes strong protection

staunchly opposed to nafta more than 20 years ago. a generation later, that perot message is resonating with a growing slice of the american electorate, especially in rust belt america. hillary clinton unlike recent democratic nominees has to worry about her opponent potentially connecting with voters on this issue. that explains why she's running ads like this. >> where are these shirts made. >> bangladesh. >> good. we employ people in bangladesh. >> where are the ties made. >> they are great ties. >> ties are made in china? >> china. >> the question hillary clint clinton's campaign has to think about. is clinton doing enough to reassure voters in places like mccomb county, michigan, who worry about her commitment when it comes to trade? joining us is debbie dingell of michigan. a supporter of the tpp. and hillary clinton. you heard and know as well as anyone in the history of hillary clinton on tpp we laid out there. you heard her speech in your state. you heard her say i oppose it now and after the election and as president. do you

improving nafta, number four. nafta is a 22-year-old agreement that must be updated to reflect the realities of today. there are many improvements that could be made that would make both mexico and the united states stronger and keep industry in our hemisphere. we have tremendous competition from china and from all over the world. keep it in our hemisphere. workers in both of our countries need a pay raise, very desperately. in the united states it's been 18 years. 18 years. wages are going down. improving pay standards and working conditions will create better results for all, and all workers in particular. there's a lot of value that can be created for both countries by working beautifully together. and that i am sure will happen. number five, keep manufacturing wealth in our hemisphere. when jobs leave mexico, the u.s. or central america and go overseas, it increases poverty and pressure on social services, as well as pressures on cross-border migration. tremendous pressure. the bond between our two countries i

she supported bill clinton's nafta. she supported china's entrance into the world trade organization. she supported job-killing trade deals and that was a really bad one with south korea, and she supports the trans-pacific partnership. not now, but very soon if she wins, and we can't let her win, because that will be a disaster for detroit and everybody else. [ applause ] let's talk about south korea for a moment. because it's perfectly, and it just perfectly illustrates the broken promises that have hurt so many american workers. president obama and the usual so-called expert who has been wrong about every trade deal for decades predicted that the trade deal with south korea would increase our exports two south korea by more than $10 billion. resulting in some 70,000 jobs. like hillary clinton's broken promises to new york, these pledges all turned out to be false. instead of creating 70,000 jobs it has killed nearly 100,000 jobs. according to the economic policy institute. our exporting to south korea haven't increase

but my plan is renegotiate nafta, make it good or get out of nafta. i want to bring our jobs back, want to make it very hard for companies to leave our country because they're fleeing. charles: a.b. without a doubt in the primaries, this was a winning issue for donald trump. how do you think it was going to play out in the general election? >> this is donald trump's best issue in the general election. as you know, this is now a bipartisan sentiment. we are turning into a anti-trade country here in both the democrat and republican party. look at bernie sanders supporters, so strongly against tpp. hillary clinton flip-flopping on the tpp and now looking at this discussion of whether or not president obama can have it be brought up by the congress in december in the lame-duck session, the senate majority leader says no, the minority leader, the democrat says no. hillary clinton will be under fierce pressure if she wins the election to continue opposition of tpp, donald trump will be sure of, that so will bernie sanders and donald trump will not allow it

improving nafta, number four. nafta is a 22-year-old agreement that must be updated to reflect the realities of today. there are many improvements that could be made that would make both mexico and the united states stronger and keep industry in our hemisphere. we have tremendous competition from china and from all over the world. keep it in our hemisphere. workers in both of our countries need a pay raise very desperately. in the united states, it's been 18 years -- 18 years. wages are going down. improving pay standards and working conditions will create better results for all and all workers in particular. there's a lot of value that can be created for both countries by working beautifully together. and that i am sure will happen. number five, keep manufacturing wealth in our hemisphere. when jobs leave mexico, the u.s. or central america and go overseas, it increases poverty and pressure on social services, as well as pressures on cross-border migration, tremendous pressure. the bond between our countries is d

bill clinton saw nafta as a net positive for the united states. while there is certainly some benefited have not from that there has been a lot of americans who have. american policy didn't focus on working to lift up the people who were not benefiting from free-trade because they were focused so much on taking credit for the vast majority of americans who were benefiting from it. it is the left out dynamic that has been driving this populist fervor. it has been coming for quite a long time. because you have that coming you will have politicians in both parties responding to it. donald trump seized on that very early. he started talking about this for years ago. to message really spoke those concerns from people who felt left out of this economic benefit from free-trade. that's the reason donald trump is talking about it. it's the reason bernie sanders was talking about it. you don't hear hillary clinton talking about it much because her husband signed nafta. tpp.elped structure the that has been such a controversy now in the democratic party and

now nafta was signed by bill clinton. nafta is a disaster. it's been a disaster not only for virginia, but for every -- virtually every state. up state new york, it looks like a war zone. that's why i want so much and i got the upstate vote in numbers that nobody's seen before. upstate new york, you go to new england, you see the factories. there's beautiful old factories. you see, they were once thriving. thousands and thousands of people working. those people now are doing part-time jobs. they're working two jobs. they're making less money than they made 18 years ago. don't know if you saw that statistic where people -- people in this room, too. but where people are make being less money now in real wages than they made 18 years ago. and even longer. and they've gotten older. gotten older. and they're working harder. not supposed to be that way. hey, of course i've gotten older and i'm working harder, too. hey, i didn't need this. could i have enjoyed myself. a lot. we're all getting older around working harder. it's supposed to be the othe

i think on balance nafta has been a positive thing. and, look, i agree with brad that it's really important if we're going to have these trade deals with asia, asian nations that they protect our patent rights and our intellectual property rights. where i disagree with him is i don't think this agreement does that, and i don't think any of these trade deals have done that. we know these countries are stealing our intellectual property. some estimates $200 billion a year that is owed to the united states stolen by these other countries. it's one of the reasons i'm very wary of this deal. trish: all right, so you want to see a little bit more. brad, you said you weren't totally -- >> stolen, that word stolen, poor countries always copy the intellectual property of rich countries to the extent we can. back in the 19th century we stole all of charles dickens' books -- [laughter] and published them in new york without giving him a cent in royalties, making him very unhappy for a great deal of his life. the tpp puts many more restrictions on

improving nafta, number four. nafta is a 22-year-old agreement that must be updated to reflect the realities of today. there are many improvements that can be made that would make mexico and the united states stronger and keep industry in our hemisphere. we have tremendous competition from china and from all over the world. keep it in our hemisphere. workers in both of our countries need a pay raise very desperately in the united states. it has been 18 years, 18 years, and wages are going down. improving pay standards, and working conditions, will create better results for all. and all workers in particular. there is a lot of value that can be created for both countries by working beautifully together. and that, i am sure, will happen. number five, keep manufacturing wealth in our hemisphere. when jobs leave mexico, the u.s., or central america, and g and pressure on cross border migration. tremendous pressure. the bond between our two countries is deep and sincere. both of our nations benefit from a close and hon

. >> the program includes a look at nafta, the 1993 free-trade agreement. more democracy for our allies. >> a discussion on how the founding fathers viewed free-trade. >> historically the united states was not a free-trade nation. for most of its history the united states is in fact a tariff protected economy. this goes back to the beginning. >> an in-depth examination of the world trade organization. >> at the time it was being and 800ed, or nafta, more pages of specific regulations. when these two were being negotiated, the united states 500as official advisers corporate advisors. >> watch our issue spotlight on trade deals. in his weekly address, president obama talked about clean energy and combating climate change. deliverchuck grassley the republican response. he spoke about bipartisanship in congress. obama: one of the most urgent challenges of our time is climate change. 2015 it is the warmest year on record. 2016 is on pace to be even hotter. when i took office i said we couldn't take this down the road any longer. we got to work. over the past sev

>> we did before nafta. >> not true. >> we had a trade surplus with mexico before nafta was put in place, now it flipped. before normalizing when trade relations with china. let's go back to the basic point. donald trump is not anti-trade. they are pro smart trade. stupid trade i when we continue to allow other countries to take advantage of us. charles: when the fed print money out of thin air that's a manipulation of currency. >> we are not keeping our currency at a certain place. that's a direct violation of the rules. charles: violation of these rules over and over again. even barack obama has slapped tariffed on china on certain things from solar panels. and there are a lot of complaints not just from america but from their other trading partners. so there is some idea we are getting taken advantage of. >> how can you be taken advantage of in trade? that's a signal of producers lining up to serve your needs. charles: if a country can make a product, have it subsidized by it government and make it at such a cheap price they can dump it on. >> the country, that's not trade, is it? >>

perot staunchly opposed nafta more than 20 years ago. now a generation later that perot message is resonating with a growing slice of the american electorate, especially in rust belt america hillary clinton has to worry about her republican opponent potentially checking on this issue with voters. >> that explains why she is running ads like this. >>. >> what is good? >> they employ people in bangladesh? >> they are great ties. they are made where, in china? >> in china? >> it's a question hillary clinton's campaign has to think about the polls. with donald trump hammering the trade laws, is:t doing enough to reassure voters in macomb county, michigan, who worry about her commitment when it comes to trade, joining us now is debbie dingle of michigan, a fierce opponent of the tpp trade deal and a hillary clinton supporter. congress woman, thanks for joining us, you know the history on tpp that we laid out there you heard her speech today in her state she said i will oppose it as president. do you believe that as a hillary clinton supporter

it is going to be dish don't think it can be worse than nafta but as bad as nafta. she said it is the gold standard. reading from a teleprompter. it is the gold standard. oh, boy. our country is in trouble. our country is in trouble. our country is in trouble. she said it's a gold standard. but once she heard me make a speech, is a understand it, and heard me talking negatively bit, as an example, they don't talk about devaluation, what countries user to kill the united states. they're devalue their currency. number one thing is not mentioned. so complicate this agreement, too many countries -- i believe in trade. believe in trade deals. one country at a time. boom. boom. you see the lines, one line. if they decent do well, if they don't behave themselves, they want to start devaluing currency, we serve them with a 30-day notice, like we do in business. [cheering] >> and by the way, you just saw, how great are our police. [cheering] law and order. we need law and order. we need law and order. and we will have law and order. our police, our firemen, but our police do

she has said very clearly about nafta that we learned our lesson from nafta. that you cannot allow nafta to stand. that you have to make sure that you enforce the trade provisions and make sure that nafta is tough. we've really not been as aggressive as we could have been at the world trade organization, which is why she wants to make sure -- put in place a trade prosecutor to make sure it benefits our businesses. >> both of them are in the same page in terms of trying to rework these trade deals if curtis, we keep hearing from donald trump he'll be the best jobs creator. the jobs of yesterday are not the jobs of tomorrow. and the reality is, if you'll be honest with the american voter that a number of those manufacturing jobs that have been lost are not jobs that are going to come back in this economy. technology has completely changed the game. >> that's not exactly true. there are many jobs that can be done here in america that are not being done. it's a result of the policies of the clintons, nafta, permanent normal trade relations with china which caused

he also has something called nafta attached to his name. you've seen this outrage. >> he is using that to his advantage. >> that's absolutely right. and especially, hillary has shifted on the trans pacific partnership and now rejecting nafta. she has a lot of convincing to do that she is for fair trade, not just free trade but trade fair to the american people. donald trump has a track record of 30 years being against nafta and these trade deals. >> more of these great conversations with the panel of dynamic women airing tomorrow afternoon. 2:00 eastern on cnn. thank you for joining us all day today. a cnn special report. driving while distracted starts right after this. a cancer diagnosis can be overwhelming and complicated. that's why at cancer treatment centers of america, every patient gets their own care manager, to coordinate every aspect of their care. it's a long journey, its very complicated and we try to help them through that. we are available 24/7. if a new symptom occurs in the middle of the night, we are there to help. the car

perot staunchly opposed nafta more than 20 years ago. now a generation later that perot message is resonating with a growing slice of the american electorate, especially in rust belt america hillary clinton has to worry about her republican opponent potentially checking on this issue with voters. >> that explains why she is running ads like this. >> what is good? >> they employ people in bangladesh? >> they are great ties. they are made where, in china? >> in china? >> it's a question hillary clinton's campaign has to think about the polls. with donald trump hammering the trade laws, is:t doing enough to reassure voters in macomb county, michigan, who worry about her commitment when it comes to trade, joining us now is debbie dingle of michigan, a fierce opponent of the tpp trade deal and a hillary clinton supporter. congress woman, thanks for joining us, you know the history on tpp that we laid out there you heard her speech today in her state she said i will oppose it as president. do you believe that as a hillary clinton supporter and

and nafta, which her husband signed, is a very, very big reason. >> so he keeps talking about nafta, the north american free trade agreement which bill clinton signed into law which has been a disaster for the united states. has it been a disaster for the u.s.? >> no. no. i think it's been a significant net positive for the u.s. economy. now, there are winners, big winners and there are losers, big losers in places like upstate new york and they may have suffered as part of nafta. i haven't done the research but it's plausible. on net, when you add up who wins, who loses and add it all together, the u.s. economy is in a meaningful better place today 23 years after nafta was signed than otherwise. and i think that trade in general, you know, smart trade, good trade deals are a significant plus with the u.s. economy. it makes our economy grow, makes our economy tick. it's to our comparative narrative and increasingly going forward, because the rest of the word, the chinas, the mexicos, they have deep middle classes that have grown out because of the trade we've engaged with them and no

and with the nafta agreement. we used to go to the meetings he had with his helpers and we tore that nafta agreement apart. and we would all take a chapter home and read it and come back and discuss it. and boy, people ought to read that someday and see the fiasco they did on it. and what i was wondering is can you see anybody around at all in the future that would be anybody like him? thank you. >> thanks very much. we have a question for -- is there anyone in the wings? >> i think they have to come out of the military today. i mean, there is this -- we used to be -- to be president you had a military background. but ross perot is part of that tradition. so maybe somebody out of -- an admiral or general someday will come in and run a third party movement. but i don't see anybody out there that's ready to get -- put skin in the game right now that's taking seriously. buddy romer, he's no ross perot. you got to have i think the money to raem do a third party. and as previously mentioned, it's hard to get into the d

. >> when he came to nafta, the north american trade agreement, he says he wants to improve nafta. he threatened he would break it, is he softening his stance when it comes to nafta? >> i don't think so, regardless of what you call it, he is talking about strengthening it, making sure we update it. what he is saying is that what we have now is unacceptable. coming back in and making updates and change rs, and frankly mexican worker and ends up with the same relate with is a better deal when president obama was running for office in 2008, it was clear that he would renegotiate. i think he got into office. and i think in the eight years of obama, so you want to talk about someone who made promises an it didn't happen. i look back to 2008 as well. >> as you heard the president of mexico, he said that the mexican people felt hurt. would it be smart for trump to apologize for some of those comments he made now that he is softening his rhetoric? >> i think you heard a few weeks ago he regrets statements that hurt people. he addressed the fact that he recognizes some of the statements he

improving nafta, number four. nafta is a 22-year-old agreement that must be updated to reflect the realities of today. there are many improvements that could be made that would make both mexico and the united states stronger and keep industry in our hemisphere. we have tremendous competition from china and from all over the world. keep it in our hemisphere. workers in both of our countries need a pay raise very desperately. in the united states, it's been 18 years, 18 years, wages are going down. improving pay standards and working conditions will create better results for all and all workers in particular. there is a lot of value that can be created for both countries by working beautifully together. and that, i am sure, will happen. number five, keep manufacturing wealth in our hemisphere. when jobs leave mexico, the u.s. or central america, and go overseas, it increases poverty and pressure on social services as well as pressures on cross-border migration. tremendous pressure. the bond between our two country s

is going to be, i don't think it can be worse than nafta. it is not to be as bad as nafta. she said as the gold standard. she's reading it from a teleprompter. it is the go standard. -- gold standard. [laughter] our country is in trouble. [cheers] she heard him make a speech and she heard me talking negatively about it, as example, they don't talk about the evaluation which is the single greatest tool that these countries are using to kill the united dates including china. so complicated this agreement, too many countries. i believe in trade. one country at a time. if they don't do well, if they don't behave, if they want to start devaluing their currency, versatile. we write them a notice like we do business, we served them with a 30 day notice. [cheers] by the way, how great our our police? [cheers] law and order. we order. -- we need law and order. our police and firemen, are pleased to a fantastic job. fantastic job. they are not recognized for the job they do. if they have 500,000 incidents , apostate, one bad thing happens, that when bad things is on the news for two

pennsylvania has lost one in three manufacturing jobs since nafta. that is massive. since nafta. nafta was signed by bill clinton. [booing] mr. trump: and i believe it is the single worst trade document ever signed in the history of our country and probably in the history of our world. [cheers] mr. trump: it is one of the most one-sided documents that i've ever seen. it allowed mexico and places to do unbelievably well at our expense. all right? did you see where i say i will renegotiate nafta? tpp, disaster. ok. don't worry. don't worry. and hillary was in favor of tpp. she said it was the gold standard. thank you for reminding me. i like this guy. it is the gold standard. tpp transpacific partnership. , is going to be, i don't think it can be worse than nafta. it is not to be as bad as nafta. tpp, she said as the gold standard. she's reading it from a teleprompter. it is the gold standard. [laughter] oh, boy.: our country is in trouble. [cheers] mr. trump: our country is in trouble. our country is in trouble. so she said it is the gold mendard, but when she heard make a speech,

it was not for nafta. in that trade promotion authority bill we talked about earlier, it included a robust program to assist workers whose and are displaced by tpp help them train and get into a new deal -- new field. that is of it is being talked about -- that is something that is being talked about. it is difficult to attract workers to sign up. butll looks good on paper, can you convince the workers to join the program? will the training programs be successful? how successful will they be, getting placed into new jobs? and if the companies are not making these new jobs, there is a myth -- a mismatch. host: that on the line for those who oppose the deal. caller: i would like -- host: beth on the line for those who oppose the deal. caller: i would like to thank your guest for his knowledge of the subject. i do enjoy enthusiasm of our young people. i would like to say that there was a company called bethel steel. now it is a casino. my grandfather was a machinist his whole life. his son, my father, worked