that he was during the war, r.e. lee, the idol of his people. then after the war, he became the quintessential christian gentleman. and a great general. there, again, it's a tough thing to teach to your students. because did he not carry himself that way? some will say, my god, how can a professor of history say that when r.e. lee was a slaveholder? again, that would be missing the point here. the point is that how he carried himself at the time, how he was perceived by not just confederates but by many northerners as well, they elevated at a point that he was christ-like. and so that's why gettysburg, again, is so crucial here, because gettysburg, you have to find scapegoats because r.e. lee has a military record with one asterisk on it, and it's gettysburg, right? so now early makes a hell of a lot of accepts as does pendleton among others as to why they have to destroy not just longstreet's reputation but others because they have to show the world they weren't outgeneraled. because of course this also means what? the war doesn't exist beyond

that he was during the war, r.e. lee, the idol of his people. then after the war, he became the quintessential christian gentleman. and a great general. there again, it's a tough thing to teach to your students. because did he not carry himself that way? some will say, my god, how can a professor of history say that when r.e. lee was a slave holder? again, that would be missing the point here. the point is that how he carried himself at the time, how he was perceived by not just confederate s but by many northerners as well, they elevated at a point that he was christ-like. and so that's why gettysburg, again, is so crucial here, because gettysburg, you have to find scapegoats because r.e. lee has a military record with one asterisk on it, and it's gettysburg, right? so now, early makes sense as does pendleton among others as to why they have to destroy not just longstreet's reputation but others, because they have to show the world they weren't outgeneraled. because of course this also means what? the war doesn't exist beyond the appalachia mou

that he was during the war, r.e. lee, the idol of his people. then after the war, he became the quintessential christian gentleman. and a great general. there again, it's a tough thing to teach to your students. because did he not carry himself that way? some will say, my god, how can a professor of history say that when r.e. lee was a slave holder? again, that would be missing the point here. the point is that how he carried himp himself at the time, how he was perceived by not just confederate s but by many northerners as well, they elevated at a point that he was christ-like. and so that's why gettysburg, again, is so crucial here, because gettysburg, you have to find scapegoats because r.e. lee has a military record with one asterisk on it, and it's gettysburg, right? so now, early makes sense as does pendleton among others as to why they have to destroy not just longstreet's reputation but others, because they have to show the world they weren't outgeneraled. that also means the war doesn't exist beyond the appalachia mountains. it exists o

the daughters are holding contests about writing about the glories of the old south and r.e. lee and at the same time they're spewing their racial hatred, and they are supporting behind u.s. militarism abroad. so you see all those what you would think are contradictory elements. they are able to come together. and again, talk to you about the evolution of the lost cause. heritage is not hate is something you didn't hear in the 1920s. it is something you heard in the last 20, 30 years. >> i tried looking at it this afternoon and couldn't find the origin of the term, but i know it's very, very recent. >> and to remind you again, here again the lost cause from the beginning from the ladies memorial associations in 1866 and 1867 saying we're not political, we're not political. of course they're political. heritage, not hate? that's deeply political. deeply political. deeply political. >> yeah. it is malleable. how are we doing? go ahead. >> if woodward's "burden of southern history" places the guilt of slavery, succession, and the death of 750,000 young men on southern society, w