>> i have the greatest respect for nancy pelosi, i love nancy pelosi, she was a mentor of mine. i was a foot soldier for her when we took back the house. and we're making the fight back in 2004, five and six. i was there on the appropriations committee, six, seven, eight, nine ten when we were implementing a lot of these things. that is where i was cutting my teeth. the question now steve really is moving forward. we can talk about the past all we want. i think we're starting to draw some real lessons. the question is how do we get the house of representatives back? you are not growing -- going to get anything done if paul ryan is the speaker of the house, and trump is president. so we want to learn about the 40 seats that are not primarily on the coast, they're going to be in michigan, ohio, tennessee, southern indiana, that is where those seats are going to be. we need a leader who could go into those congressional districts and convince people that a new democratic party, one that is progressive and cultural and economically populous that can get the job done. >> congressman

nancy pelosi shuffled the affordable care act through. do she might need to train the bench as we go forward, but i believe nancy pelosi needs to go out on her own terms, and i don't think it's time for her to go out yet. >> november 30 is when those elections are set. appreciate it. >>> don't miss "all in" with chris hayes tonight. his exclusive interview with senator harry reid. they'll talk about president-elect donald trump tonight. >>> and up next, it's our most important number of the day. it could help explain why the results of that election last week took so many americans by surprise. and talked about that breaking news at the top of the hour. mitt romney under consideration to be donald trump's secretary of state. we played some of the sound of romney slamming donald trump over the last few months. here's what trump has been saying about mitt romney. >> this poor mitt romney is sad, he's going around saying, ah, ah, ah. he's a sad case. he choked. you know what a choke artist is, right? you know what a choke artist is? you know

and i think nancy pelosi does. but we need to represent the entire party and these working class people rely on us. we need a strong democratic party in the united states and right now, you know, we're reeling. >> one of the civil rights that's never been under more threat than it is right now is reproductive rights. you were pro-life until last year, when you decided to announce that you were pro-choice. why should anybody trust you on that issue as a recent convert? >> well, i would say, talk to our friends at planned parenthood. this has been a long journey for me, coming in pro-life, really not giving a whole lot of thought about it and i dug into the issue with friends of mine, like rosa dlora and others and consistently learned more. i really educated myself. i met women who were in really difficult circumstances and then 2 1/2 years, i had a -- my wife, andrea, and i had a baby. and we were sitting in the doctor's office and i remember they were running tests on the baby. the baby's fine, he's healthy, he's

nancy pelosi now potentially facing definitely divisions within her caucus. there were reports this morning that she believes she got support of two-thirds of her caucus. there are others who put that number lower. the question is, will somebody and tim ryan, the congressman of ohio stepping up to challenge her. right now i say that my senses that it is still a pretty long shot, the divisions are real. i do think what you saw out of that meeting though is nancy pelosi acknowledging hey, mr. pence, you know this territory and you understand what it means to be here in this building and how things work here and i think that is very much the key for how congress is going to work with the trump administration. thomas. >> lets figure out about that and go to our colleague, cal perry, outside of trump tower. really busy of that revolvining door. governor haley was pleased to meet with president elect trump and they had a good discussion and she was encouraged of the coming administration and the new direction that'll bring to washington. we know haley was one of th

. >> i cannot speak highly enough of nancy pelosi. she combines strong, progressive values with just extraordinary political skill. >> so, i mean, it's basically endorsing nancy pelosi. her challenger is making this point that the discussion needs to happen. you agree with that. you say that is important. president obama arguably while popular is someone who contributed to what is a shallow democratic bench. he wasn't a party person. that wasn't as much as priority. some people may wonder if he looks back and wishes that he had paid a little more attention to it. so with him, with that in mind, he's weighing in on that. you know what do you think about this, and about the attention that needs to be paid to building that democratic bench? >> yes. i think he's absolutely right. there's no harder worker. no smarter person. no person that knows how to plan better than nancy pelosi. she has been fantastic in that regard. the fact of the matter is, we had a presidential election that influenced all of the elections throughout, the house and

. >>> nancy pelosi facing a challenge to the leadership to the house democratic caucus this morning. tim ryan , ohio congress member says he wants to put his hat in the ring. we have reporter manu raju with the latest from capitol hill. >> reporter: good morning, george and christine. ohio congress member tim ryan throwing his hat in the ring mounting an uphill challenge against nancy pelosi who had control over the caucus for years and years and has deep loyalty having raised millions of dollars for her colleagues. there is a lot of angst among house democrats if nancy pelosi knows how to get her party back in majority. i had a chance to speak with mr. ryan. he said reelecting nancy pelosi after a bad night for democrats may not be the best idea. >> and we're at the lowest number of state and federal officials since reconstruction. we have the lowest number in our caucus since 1929. we lost over 60 seats since 2010. the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and you keep getting the same results. time to move on, i think. >> reporter: the leadership elect

nancy pelosi to the election. what will be, we expect, a secret ballot. the speeches are under way, at least speeches for tim ryan, our own capitol hill producer covering this this morning as our cameras this morning, craig tweeting about the leadership elections getting under way starting with nominating speeches from nancy pelosi and tim ryan. there's a secret ballot. scott wong of "the hill" reports tim ryan being nominated by his democratic colleagues. john is hearing what tim ryan is saying, praising pelosi in his speech. it's a bit unusual, we hear reports that nominee would speak in one of these meetings but ryan is praising pelosi but says he lost friends this election. deepest minority in decades. democrats have lost the middle of the country. again, from craig who caught up with marcy kaptur outside the committee meeting room this morning. she's a victim of the national party, says marcy kaptur. i often thought she should be the leader of the party. so she's voting for nancy pelosi over tim ryan. we expe

>> not with nancy pelosi. this is a woman who has led democrats to four straight defeats when it comes to elections that control the house. that's why republicans are thrilled with this choice. >> a huge cultural problem. white working class, the guys who put trump over the top in this election, they have been the bedrock of the democratic party's coalition since fdr. republicans have won college educated whites for all time. goldwater won college educated whites. the response from the elites in the democratic party and from the john stewart types that these voters are now racists because they didn't vote for democrats. that's not a winning message to win them back. >> that's not actually true. obama didn't win those white working class districts. he just lost them by 43% instead of hillary's 37%. >> he won tim ryan's district. >> yes. but the point is the white working class has been trending republican for a while. obama kept his head above water with them. >> we remember that the democrats have been running

nancy pelosi also gets to keep her job. the house minority leader survived a challenge from congressman tim ryan of ohio to remain the top democrat in the u.s. house for the 115th congress for globa

there is no one better than that than nancy pelosi. she is a be huge albatross in some ways but she is probably the best person than running a floor fight which is what the democrats will be in a lot of if they will try to restrain donald trump and the republicans over the next two years. >> the question is where do stars come from? big ideas, star power, the ability, where do they come from? they come from the governors. maybe from a senator. er rarely does anybody come to that level from the house. it happens. >> paul ryan, newt gingrich. but the party right now needs ideas. and they need ideas that show that they work. as you sugds, somebody in the minority in the house won't be able to put forth ideas and say here's how they're changing the real lives of real people. the least important battle ground places where they need start advancing young leaders. the senate is important. governors, statewide office holders. >> i was struck when ryan was on the show. the arguments werer impressive but they seemed better for a person running f

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"no one is a better tactician than nancy pelosi." the 76-year-old california democrat was forced to promise changes to the caucus to answer complaints from lawmakers who are fed up with being shut out of the upper ranks of leadership, especially in the wake of a devastating election that installed a republican monopoly over congress and the white house. a half dozen democrats delivered testimonials to nancy pelosi in nominating speeches but the disenchantment was evident. i thi "i think tim ryan would be a great leader, he's a new generation and he would appeal to a lot of millennials and young people in this country" congressman steve lynch of massachusetts said as he headed into the session. we are waiting to hear from nancy pelosi as our cameras are still live on capitol hill. it should be in just a couple of moments. [ indistinct audio ] [ indistinct audio 1234678d [ indistinct audio ] [ indistinct audio ) [ indistinct audio ] [ indistinct audio ] [ indistinct audio ] >> the results of elections for house democrats have democrats

nancy pelosi is 76. are we going wait for her to sort of turn 78 and then maybe they gain a few more seats and then -- >> about her age. if she's effective she's effective. 76 or 78. >> see they are raising questions about effectiveness. this is the quintessential principal business. you lose fouring straight elections. any other endeavor, four successive loss, these are folks who will see a decade of their careers basically in the minority, and they don't see any reason why they should be all that patient. >> david, let me play for you how she justifies her existence. listen to nancy pelosi. >> in 2005 and 2006 i orchestrated the take back of the house of representatives. when president clinton was president the republicans took the house. president bush was president the democrats took the house. when president obama pfs president, the republicans took the house. so we have an opportunity, it doesn't mean any guarantee but means we'll do very hard work. i hope to have -- i'm very proud to have the oppo

we saw president-elect mike pence on capitol hill meeting with leader nancy pelosi. he is there meeting with congressional leaders on both sides of the aisle. soon pence will meet with newly elected senate minority leader democrat chuck schumer. just wrapped up that joint appearance with house minority leader nancy pelosi, both talked about their mutual respect for one another, formidable opponents, want to work together, their meeting comes as jones herself faces a possible challenge to her leadership post from within her own party ranks, manu raju has been chasing this down on capitol hill, he joins me now. let's underscore that picture we just saw with the vice president-elect and leader pelosi. what more do you know about the meeting and this message of "we want to work together." >> well, that's the message they wanted to send wolf -- wolf? sorry, brooke. that they wanted to -- both of them want to work together and find if there are areas of commonality. it's a real kumbaya moment post-election, brooke, that we see from members of congress and a new incoming ad

-- -- tim ryan versus nancy pelosi? we will talk about whether they think nancy pelosi continue to be the party leader in the house. two tweets. one says, why do people care who does and who doesn't get gay married? writes, why is it constitutional for christians to tell me what i can do with my body? i refuse to give my body to christian control. believe it is wrong, whether for religious purposes or neutral social purposes. in marriage has been illegal unfortunately every country until the last 15 years, when it has been something moving throughout the developed world. history isf years of behind that, whether one takes kindly on that are not. with respect to the other question, i think if what you , there that is abortion are many people who believe there is a second body involved. the body of the young forming child inside the mother. if it was the case up clearly what the mother does with her concernen on the cap about it come up when you talk about a separate human being that is genetically distinct from the momen

nancy pelosi? would it be the president of the united states? couldn't generate that kind of support, or hillary clinton who failed in her own base to win the presidency? >> there's enough blame to go around, wolf, for everybody. look, we lost. i don't hang 2016 around leader pelosi's neck alone. there's plenty of blame to go around. clearly democrats do not have an economic message. we need to have one. we need to have one to move forward and what we've got to do. go into 30 or 40 congressional districts and figure out how to win in the south. how to win in rural areas. how to win in places like ohio, michigan and wisconsin. we haven't done that, and we better figure that out or we're going to be a minority party for a long, long time. >> if you lose tomorrow, congressman, what do you see your role in the party, in the house of representatives? what's your future? >> i have no idea. i haven't looked much past tomorrow, wolf. we've got 24 hours to go in this campaign. running really hard. burning up the phones, having meetings getting endorsemen

nancy pelosi rules with a fist that is both iron and ham. and i'm shocked that she's still in power. and it's taken this long for someone to really make a legitimate charge at her reign. you know, they've had losing election after losing election. they did not expect to lose the presidency. they expected to gain the senate. >> but they're dismissing that. >> look at what's happening with the state houses across the country? >> i hear you. but they're dismissing that saying the candidate, hillary clinton won the popular vote, what's all this pent up demand? >> this gentleman, mr. ryan, who i don't really know much about but i know what he's talking about. he's not talking about bernie sanders. >> that's showing kind of a coastal arrogance. >> no, no --. let me finish what i'm saying. >> -- been unserviced by the democratic party. >> he's talking about the white working class which has completely abandoned the democratic party that put trump in office. and we should point out democratic party politics -- policies for many years have marginaliz

kennedy: i get to do my nancy pelosi. nancy! meghan: she does not have a official role in the trump administration has said she is not looking for one. if she is person for whatever to go out and do his dirty work on cable news that is a different role. sandra: after a showdown on capitol hill between nancy pelosi and ohio congressman tim ryan pelosi keeping her job. what it means for the party. and president-elect donald trump announcing he plans to leave his company to his children before taking office. whether it will quiet the conflict of interest concerns. after the show you can join our live chat by i can considering on the "overtime" tab on foxnews.com/outnumbered. go to facebook.the come/outnumbered fnc. you can always tweet us. we're looking at our phones during the break and talk to us after the show. >> you do? i didn't know that. my name is pam. i'm 51 years old. when i was diagnosed with pneumococcal pneumonia, it was huge for everybody. she just started to decline rapidly. i was rushed to the hospital... my symptom

do you like nancy pelosi? guest: i would support her today. her views and my views, this idea you're old, i'm getting old, right? in a month i'm going to be 80 years old. am i too old to be in congress? i don't kn. i decided i was going to do other things. but if you decide on age, then that's a very interesting thing. only young people can be in congress, right? they don't know anything. they got no experience. and what you throw out when you start talking about getting rid of people like nancy pelosi is a huge amount of experience and she reacts, she represents san francisco. she has to know what's going on in a pretty progressive city, in a state where many things are happening. so i think she's a great leader personally. host: there's an op ed by melinda of catholic university in "usa today" talks about nancy pelosi. it's because democrats in the house of representatives haven't been this -- numbers since 1929. they were expected to take 10 r 20 seats this november but saw a net gain of -- is that a fair statement? guest: that's a fair sta

why can you do a better job than nancy pelosi? >> well, i spent 43 years of my life and i understand the people who lead us in tuesday's election. i know them and i understand them and i advocate for them and i recognized that they feel disconnected from the democratic party. it pains me because the median household income of district is $57,000 a year. you have two parents working making less than $30,000 a year and it makes me sick to think that those people do not see the democratic party as working in their interests or the democratic party cares about them. and the fact that the matter is we have an amazing country and we have a multi cultural country and we need to work on behalf of all of these constituents with an economic plan that'll work with everybody, black and gays and straight and everybody should be apart of this. everybody should be apart of this. i am going to offer my services to my caucus to take us in a new direction. >> what do you think was the biggest mistake for the democratic party and hillary clinton try

to have a conversation. >> why shouldn't we blame nancy pelosi? i have great respect for the work she has done. she is a prominent figure in the democratic party. the democratic party was shellacked. why not say, i guess that didn't work too well, we need new leadership? >> well, i do think that we are moving into that time when new leadership is going to have to necessarily take over. there's no question about it. it may not be right now. that has to take place. >> is tim rye yn that kind of leadership? would you support him? >> i had a long conversation with tim ryan, yesterday. he actually is saying, look, i listen to people griping and nobody wants to talk about it openly. he said i want to put myself out there to run. he is running to win. i think it's going to be a difficult challenge for him or anybody right now. >> why? >> to move nancy pelosi out of leadership. i think for a couple reasons. one, people are concerned that, you know, we might be falling into a pattern that's been on the national level which is women are being removed. we ju

hillary clinton symbolized that too many americans and nancy pelosi to a certain extent as well. if they are going to see any success, get anything through and begin to win that, do they need to make massive change of? >> you bet, time to clean the swamp at the dnc and the house, nancy pelosi, like hillary clinton has overstayed her public well command if they didn't get the message loud and clear from this last election they will never get it. it is time for the democrats to do their own autopsy and figure out where they want to be and being pulled so far left now that if anything if that happens they have not learned the lesson of this election. now is the time the american people want republicans and democrats to work together when they can to get stuff done. trish: you see some of them, harry reid for example on the floor last night making some pretty explosive comments. is this his way of staying relevant? >> a couple months, harry reid hasn't served for decades and had been wonderful to democratic party. he believes these are issues that need to be raised. what you said, th

i don't think that nancy pelosi is going to lose her job. but i do think that a challenge, if it helps sort of awaken them, and look at how they're going to lead moving forward, and look for new leadership in terms of the vice chair i think it's a good thing. i think nancy pelosi is going to take it seniorsly and look into how she can make some changes. >> i don't know if it's a challenge but we still win if you look at it seriously. donald trump and mike pence go to indiana. they talk to carrier. they convince that company to stay, to keep some jobs in the united states. instead of moving them to mexico. why weren't the democrats doing those sorts of things? isn't that something that the democrats might consider? >> well, i think it's also important to note, carol, that they also promised carrier huge corporate tax breaks, and carrier still moved a number of their jobs -- >> we don't know that yet. >> well, they said that that's what they want to do. we just heard the new secretary of the treasury, talk about reforming taxes. taxes, and tax

i love nancy pelosi. but people elect us to lead. leaders lead, winners win. we've got to start winning. i'm trying to provide leadership here and ask my colleagues to join me so we can get the majority back in 2018 and represent the democratic party and do the things bernie was saying and average people in our constituents and districts, working class people want us to do. >> tim ryan, congressman, thank you very much. we'll be talking to you as this heats up. >> thank you. >> you bet. coming up, the right stuff? donald trump zeroing in on picks for secretary of state, secretary of defense and key intelligence posts. this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc, the place for politics. attention: are you eligible for medicare? the medicare enrollment deadline is just a few weeks away. changes to medicare plans could impact your healthcare costs. are you getting all the benefits available to you? call healthmarkets and we'll help you find the medicare plan that's right for you. hi, i'm doctor martin gizzi. it's a new medicare year. that means more changes ... an

nancy pelosi is being challenged. congressman tim ryan of ohio has just announced he's running for minority leader, underscoring the party's post election disarray. let's get some more from our senior washington correspondent jeff zeleny. jeff, hillary clinton is encouraging democrats to continue the fight, but some in the party are looking for ways to work with donald trump. >> reporter: many democrats tonight are looking for ways to work with him, particularly in areas he's at odds with his own party, including infrastructure spending and other campaign messages. the democratic party is trying to find its way forward, even as hillary clinton tries to find meaning in her stunning defeat. >> i know many of you are deeply disappointed about the results of the election. i am, too. more than i can ever express. >> reporter: hillary clinton offering new words about her punishing loss. she's searching for meaning and dispensing confident, as democrats look forward. >> i will admit coming here tonight wasn't the easiest thi

nancy pelosi very happy that she won. she first got the post to lead democrats in the house back in 2002. she has always won follow-up elections including years when she was the speaker of the house, democrats had the majority. she had a tougher fight than many thought she would. she did get two-thirds of the vote, 134 to 63 to tim ryan. she said she would be back a little later to talk about the leadership post and whether tim ryan might be offered something, he did after all get 63 votes and talks about a caucus about representing middle america and was ignored by the party and those who are dominated in leadership by those on the coast. meanwhile we are keeping an eye on trump tower, what's going on there. one thing caught our interest, i don't know if we have the video of this. we saw top federal prosecutor in manhattan. he's the guy that pursues trading cases, goes after wall street guys all the way to thugs and he's meeting with donald trump. we have no idea what that's about. might be a courtesy call. anyone and ev

pelosi, -- for nancy pelosi, the future is for the party, there is a new debate. should nancy pelosi stay in her role or should someone else step up? >> house democrats must be unified, strategic and unwavering. >> reporter: members we spoke with say they are confident any debate set to happen after thanksgiving won't turn hostile. >> i think our current leadership team is strong and will likely be supported by the vast majority of members of our caucus. >> reporter: democrats admit it's time for soul-searching in this, you can't flinch. you can't ignore it. you need to look it right in the eye and ask why. >> reporter: now democrats are turning to a familiar face, remand -- vermont senator bernie sanders. it won't be easy and some democrats hope instead of celebrities, the attention refocuses on something else. it's really what we're doing for the american people. >> reporter: one of the big questions going forward is who democrats will have as their party leader. it has been a rough year for the democratic party with scandals including wikileaks and the conventi

will nancy pelosi be challenged for her job? and game of drones. a militia group believes it knows the whereabouts of the isis leertd on the run in the face of a massive offensive against terrorist forces. tonight, the pentagon says it will take him out. is the administration determined to killal baghdadi before president obama leaves office? we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer and this is "the situation room." sources are describing a transition and turmoil tonight as donald trump tries put together the inner team will accompany him into the white house. the infighting among his closest advisers is being described as a knife fight and some key inside players suddenly out. as factions within the trump team jockey for control. the president-elect received his first presidential daily brief temperature same one given to president obama outlining the most sensitive threats to the united states. tomorrow, vice president-elect will also start receiving the brief. and we're also learning the details

but still nancy pelosi is very popular with the base of theof t she's a very good fundraiserse so my personal money would be on nancy pelosi seep holdingelos on. >> change election. >>> a lot of democrats saw>> chf dwhat happened last week.apst they don't like it.th they might teyry d to put a newn face on their own party asarty a well, too. >> absolutely. >> nyle we appreciate youciate u joining us tonight.onight >>> the president-elect holdsde his first internationalfirs t meeting. he didn't go anywhere. anyer it stayed at trump tower butat t he minister today.mini >> many people are wonderingondi how donald trump will handleilld dealing with world leaders andd international affairs. hagar kamal lee formere former spokesperson to the un and did i say your name correctly. >> it's hagar shamali. >> thank you for that correcting it for us. we've seen a flurry of peoplerrf going in and outlu crrertainlyyt transition team is workingking hard.hard with this first meeting today, d minister how did donald trump do? >> i think he's making an effort. i think that this was an area of his camp

nancy pelosi, in particular. you've also got a little more split, kind of horizontal, all right, left/right, where you have tim ryan addressing kind of both of these issues. and to go back to simone's point, which direction the party is going to head in here. what they're looking at here, tim ryan was saying, talking about getting backse seats, lik bart stuback, they put bernie sanders into leadership. that was a big acknowledgement of the power of his movement. and on left you also have to also address. but they're also trying to get back to center-right, in middle america, the so-called flyovercountry. you look at that span of things, it's a really hard bridge to cross right now. there's going to have to be a lot of work done inside the party, especially to the center/right, not sure you can do that. a lot of those seats were districted out. drawn out from maps. >> donald trump popularism was tied to the racism. and his campaign. there are those who think we need to get working class white people, and meanwhile

nancy pelosi understands the big picture. she's a prolific fund-raiser. she pulled us together over the years to a wonderful victory in 2006. what we have got to do is work with nancy, nancy needs to work with us to redefine our message so we can get into rural america. hillary clinton to get 37% of the white vote is not going to win future elections. not at the congressional level or at the presidential election. so this delay in elections until november 30th will give us time to have that debate and to look at the data and decide how we are going to legislate. we have to stand up to donald trump in a very strong way and we will only do that when we are united. we don't need any voices in our democratic caucus suppressed as we begin to recalibrate. >> mr. chairman, along those lines, you objected strongly to the appointment of steve bannon as chief strategist in the white house. you called it a cold slap in the face to those of us who are working to mend race relations in america. you signed on to a letter, you have been very critical of it, but what mor

i am not out there to support or go against nancy pelosi. what i am saying is that we need to have a serious conversation and listen to the american people and develop a new strategy. and whoever leads our party ought to have a strategy and that's what we ought to vote on. i came to office through a competitive primary. i had to listen to the constituents i would come to represent. we need to do that as a democratic party before we just rush into a new term with exactly the same plan that we've always had. >> you are from a blue state, but you were elected during the republican wave two years ago. you are 38. a combat veteran. you campaigned on a platform of bringing bipartisan leadership to washington. many see you as a rising star in the democratic party. why not put your name in the mix? >> look, i have only been here for a couple of years. i spent a lot more time in the marines than i have in congress. but i think it was important in this case for someone who was not interested in running him or herself to stand up there and say we need

how much is nancy pelosi to blame for that? >> well, i want to talk more about moving forward, but we lost a significant amount of seats in 2010. didn't really do well in '14. didn't do well in '12, lost again in '14 and only picked up six seats last time. in 2010, the republicans ran $260,0 and that sank us. the question is, how do we move forward? >> what is it that you think makes her so unappetizing to voters? >> $60,000 in republican ads. i think our failure as a caucus has been not to focus on economic issues. i think we -- i'm supportive of all the issues that we talk about, but you need a robust economic message that covers that consistently in the last number of years. >> i want to talk about the state of the party because i want to look at some other numbers about where house democrats are from now in the country. let's put this map up. more than one-third of the members in the new house, democrats, come from just three states: california, new york and massachusetts. almost two-thirds are from either the west coast or

how much is nancy pelosi to blame for that? >> well, i want to talk more about moving forward, but we lost a significant amount of seats in 2010. didn't really do well in '14. didn't do well in '12, lost again in '14 and only picked up six seats last time. in 2010, the republicans ran $2,0 and that sank us. the question is, how do we move forward? >> what is it that you think makes her so unappetizing to voters? >> $60,000 in republican ads. i think our failure as a caucus has been not to focus on economic issues. i think we -- i'm supportive of all the issues that we talk about, but you need a robust economic message that covers that consistently in the last number of years. >> i want to talk about the state of the party because i want to look at some other numbers about where house democrats are from now in the country. let's put this map up. more than one-third of the members in the new house, democrats, come from just three states: california, new york and massachusetts. almost two-thirds are from either the west coast or t

how much is nancy pelosi to blame for that? >> well, i want to talk more about moving forward, but we lost a significant amount of seats in 2010. didn't really do well in '14. didn't do well in '12, lost again in '14 and only picked up six seats last time. in 2010, the r $260,000 worth of ads for pelosi and that sank us. the question is, how do we move forward? >> what is it that you think makes her so unappetizing to voters? >> $60,000 in republican ads. i think our failure as a caucus has been not to focus on economic issues. i think we -- i'm supportive of all the issues that we talk about, but you need a robust economic message that covers that consistently in the last number of years. >> i want to talk about the state of the party because i want to look at some other numbers about where house democrats are from now in the country. let's put this map up. more than one-third of the members in the new house, democrats, come from just three states: california, new york and massachusetts. almost two-thirds are from either the w

. ♪ ♪ charles: well, the democrats in disarray, nancy pelosi though clutching onto her crown as house minority leader. but ohio congressman tim ryan has thrown his head into the ring, and -- his hat into the ring. tomorrow they've got a secret election, and snowballing dissension that's really starting to grow within the rank and file democrats and across the cup. here the discuss, adrian know. california prix, you happen to be friends, and tim ryan, the challenger to nancy pelosi, you know him very well. >> that's right. charles: you know, it seems to me the democrats would have had some form of epiphany after november 8th -- >> you would hope. charles: [laughter] yeah, but they're heading deeper into the wrong direction. >> not with tim ryan, they're not. you know, here is a guy who has been a member of congress for 14 years, but he is 43 years old. yes, full disclosure, he is my friend, he is my member of congress x i currently serve in his old state senate seat. so i am definitely biased. but i will tell you this, tim ryan understands politics, he understands how the game is playe

nancy pelosi is from san francisco. the average income in her constituency is twice what it is in tim ryan's. he represents industrial ohio. she represents limousine liberalism. and it's beginning to dawn on keep saying that global warming is the biggest problem for our country, for our century while people are losing their jobs and their dignity in the midwest, you are not appealing to people. now, i think it starts -- there is a large part of this that is to be laid at the feet of barack obama. i thought his kind of liberalism was a huge overreach with obamacare and all the other regulations. but the house went along with it and the senate went along with it. democrats, i'm talking about, protected him and made the same case. this is, i think, sort of a ricochet shot of getting at obama without attacking him, but bringing down and changing the people who followed him over the cliff. >> chuc judge. >> i agree with charles and caitlin. i'm the last person to be giving advice to the democrats. tim ryan fresh faces a oppo

how much is nancy pelosi to blame for that? >> well, i want to talk more about moving forward, but we lost a significant amount of seats in 2010. didn't really do well in '14. didn't do well in '12, lost again in '14 and only picked up six seats last time. in 2010, the republicans ran and that sank us. the question is, how do we move forward? >> what is it that you think makes her so unappetizing to voters? >> $60,000 in republican ads. i think our failure as a caucus has been not to focus on economic issues. i think we -- i'm supportive of all the issues that we talk about, but you need a robust economic message that covers that consistently in the last number of years. >> i want to talk about the state of the party because i want to look at some other numbers about where house democrats are from now in the country. let's put this map up. more than one-third of the members in the new house, democrats, come from just three states: california, new york and massachusetts. almost two-thirds are from either the west coast or the ea

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any minute we are expecting him to appear with nancy pelosi. it is coming as we get a read out with house speaker paul ryan. speaker ryan calling it productive and terrific. the two of them met about 45 minutes. there is a lot going on and you saw the reaction from governor nikki haley office from her meeting from trump tower. of course, the former governor is joining me now. congressman, thank you for being with us. >> my pleasure. lets talk about governor haley here. >> do you think she's good for secretary of state. that's what sources are telling us. i want to get your reaction straight off the bat. >> yes, we do. i think that having folks of different ethic backgrounds matter in that role and given you know, we are 5% of the world's population and most of the world is like us. she's an indian decent and she's been tested. she's handled floods and tragedies all well. i think it is a whole host of different levels. she brings a lot to bear. >> the first is her indian american heritage, do you think that's the only source ambassadore consider

next year democrats will 194 how much is nancy pelosi to blame for that? >> well, i want to talk more about moving forward, but we lost a significant amount of seats in 2010. didn't really do well in '14. didn't do well in '12, lost again in '14 and only picked up six seats last time. in 2010, the republicans ran $260,000 and that sank us. the question is, how do we move forward? >> what is it that you think makes her so unappetizing to voters? >> $60,000 in republican ads. i think our failure as a caucus has been not to focus on economic issues. i think we -- i'm supportive of all the issues that we talk about, but you need a robust economic message that covers that consistently in the last number of years. >> i want to talk about the state of the party because i want to look at some other numbers about where house democrats are from now in the country. let's put this map up. more than one-third of the members in the new house, democrats, come from just three states: california, new york and massachusetts. almost two-thirds are from either the west coast

nancy pelosi is not seizing on that idea. if you look at hillary clinton won the popular vote but everything from the electoral vote to governors to senator, to house, local levels, republicans really swept. >> respectfully, i'm going to tell you that we've got to have somebody that will pull us all together. she is already announced potential changes we'll discuss at the caucus on wednesday. she is hearing and listening. i understand you do have a vote when it comes to transition over there. keith ellison of minnesota, is that who you have support for? >> i've not announced support for anybody. we have to figure out what this party needs. that election is not till the end of february. we need to take the time to listen to understand and see who are the candidates before -- i'm not going to commit. i hope others will wait and do the soul searching first. >> you mentioned bernie sanders name earlier. do you see things moving more to the left. even when talking about representative ellison, people say he has the support of eliz

from those two coasts, isn't a san francisco liberal like nancy pelosi a shoo-in? >> i don't think so, because even members of the coastal states recognize that we aren't a national party now. we can't claim to be. i think they recognize these are the smartest political figures coming out of their areas. they're members of congress. they've beat elected officials political figures in their region. they understand politics, and i think they understand this is about having a new message and a new messenger and being able to reach those folks. the numbers are big, but they know if we don't get the middle of the country, we won't get back the majority. >> here's how pelosi explained the election results about ten days ago. here she is. >> the problem is more with the communication than it was with our policy. so our lives are those very people who didn't communicate the successes we had. >> is it just a communication issue? >> it's a big part of it, but we can't keep saying it's a communication issue. we've been saying it's a communication issue since 2010. so we've go

jon: well, does that mean it's nancy pelosi's time to go? you said republicans got rid of their leadership. >> it would not be an unusual outcome. is it possible, yes? likely? who knows. with all the punditry left behind us, it's ultimately about counting who's got the votes. jon: now she ascended to the speaker of the house position back in 2006. she has written a letter to her colleagues, her democratic colleagues in the house, suggesting that there should be changes ahead. she says we've all been shaken by the election of donald trump and by what it means for the american people whom it is our honor and responsibility to champion. the letter goes on: in the course of my conversations with members, i was especially interested in their desire to have a stronger role in their committees. this is music to my ears because that is exactly what was essential to our success in 2006. so, patrick, can she turn to the 2006 playbook and keep her speakership? i'm sorry, minority leader position. >> you know, jon, i don't really know. but they talk abo