to talk about that i'm joined by ron pollack from families usa. welcome. your organization says you are going to go on a full-out war to keep obamacare. what does that look like? >> well, there are tens of millions of people whose lives really will be at risk if the affordable care act is repealed because health coverage is their lifeline. 20 plus million people have gained coverage as a result of the affordable care act. there are 72.5 million people on the safety net medicaid program, and president-elect trump is talking about trying to repeal the affordable care act, to restructure the medicaid program which would result in cut-backs -- >> i talked to a lot of republicans about this. a, they said that if obamacare is repealed, that people won't automatically be thrown off their policies. there will be like a grace period, right? then those people who lose insurance will just go to medicaid. >> well, that's not clear. first of all, we don't know what the medicaid program is going to look like with trump's presidency. but you know, one of the things that'