in fact, there was a memo that was published 2002--actlly, it was leaked. was a l leaked memo from a republican pollster named frank luntz. and he was advising his clients, essentially fossil fuel interests, that back in 2002, there was this closing window. the public was now bbecoming cononvinced by the scientific community that human caused climate change is real. and if they were to become convinced about this, they would demand policy actions be implplemented, action b be take. but what luntztz said was that there's still a window of opportunity left, according to his polling, according to the focus groups that he had done, to confuse the public, to cloud their understanding of the issue, to try to make it seem as if the science is stilil fiercely contested. and what he said was as long as the public thinknks that scientists don't agree, that there isn't a scientific consensus, they can be convinced that it might be too costly to take action. and so that's exactly what the forces o of climate change denial have chosen to do ever since. . they've doubled

i actlly thinkhat president obama did donald um a favor. if he had passed this on to donarump all the information and said, you me the decision, then trump's first decision vis-a-vis russia would have to be imposed sanctions. for some of the reasons you just said and for the fact that the intelligence community, cia, fbi, oem home ts land security was convinced she was trying to disrupt her dad's election. >> let's look ahead and let's build a new relationship. >> isaac, let me bring you in because you wrote an interesting piece about why donald trump has felt perturbed, i guess you could say, about saying here's the headline. what's really bugging trump about obama, barack obama saying maybe he had won the election if he ran against trump, what he's been doing with the administration is what he's doing with israel. >> this is certainly essentially a dare to donald trump to back off the sanctions, to let these who have now been booted out of the kurnlt. it is being done at a moment. >> not even a week ago -- brandishing this lerlt that talk