chuck jones said he lied about the number. apparently chuck jones is right. he saved 800 jobs but lied and said 1100. instead of getting the numbers wrong, which lots of people do, he attacked jones personally. that letter from harry truman, bill clinton owns it. it was hanging in the west wing. it's great, but it was a private letter to a guy. >> but it got out to the media in. >> he was trashing harry truman's daughter. professor rice is correct. >> i want to say this -- >> this is abuse of power. >> i want to say this. what we're not talking about here is at any time during this carrier event in the campaign, hillary clinton could have picked up the phone and done this. president obama could have. neither of them did this. donald trump did this. >> but they didn't pick up twitter and trash a steel worker named trump fighting for his job. >> number one, i think the twitter phenomenon is here to stay, and officially by donald trump whether he's president in january or not, he's going to keep doing it. it's a huge tool for him, and it shows how aggressive he'

donald trump fired off two angry, unpresidential tweets at chuck jones last night, blaming chuck jones and the workers at carrier for carrier's decision to move their jobs to mexico, which carrier is still doing, even though donald trump arranged a tax break to keep some of the jobs in indiana. chuck jones then came on this program last night after the trump twitter attack and said this. >> the whole thing is ridiculous. i'm not backing up on my position one iota. he's wrong, i'm right. and we'll move on. you know, if he wants to keep on tweetin' i'll keep on respondin'. >> and donald trump did not keep on tweeting. and in trump world, that is surrender. donald trump surrendered trump style. he stopped tweeting about chuck jones and the workers at carrier. not another word. chuck jones shut him up, because donald trump and his handlers realized, no one can do more damage to donald trump's claim to be the champion of american workers than chuck jones. at a trump rally tonight in iowa, donald trump did the same old song. that he's been doing about how he's going to threaten american comp

chuck jones said he lied about the numbers. apparently chuck jones is right. still a good thing saving 800 jobs but he lied saying 1100 wrong. instead of saying he got the numbers wrong, which lots of people do, he attacked chuck jones. and -- it was a private letter to a guy. >> but it got out in the media. >> he was trashing truman's daughter. if someone trashes -- no. professor reich is correct. >> hold on a second. i just want to say this. >> -- abuse of power. >> i just want to say this. what we're not talking about here is at any time during all of this carrier event in the campaign hillary clinton could have picked up the phone and done. this. president obama could done this. donald trump did this. >> what they didn't do was pick up twitter and trash a steel worker named chuck in indianapolis who's fighting for his job. >> number one i think the twitter phenomenon is here to stay and i specially by donald trump. whether he's president in january or not. he's going to keep doing it. it is a huge tool for him. and it shows how aggressive he's going to be

was it donald trump or chuck jones? i actually have my money on chuck jones. i think the one that would act with dignity today. >> it is the guy that already has the title of president, chuck jones. ana marie cox, david corn of mother jones, thank you for joining us tonight. >> thank you. >>> coming up, kellyanne conway warned businesses he might just tweet about them if they have anything to say about him. he might drive down their stock price because he now has the power to do that. rick wilson and felix salmon will join us. >>> kellyanne conway is now th . but i keep it growing by making every dollar count. that's why i have the spark cash card from capital one. with it, i earn unlimited 2% cash back on all of my purchasing. and that unlimited 2% cash back from spark means thousands of dollars each year going back into my business... which adds fuel to my bottom line. what's in your wallet? because it knew an ordinary wastissue was near.ar. the fiery ssue left her no sore and red. so dad slayed the problem with puffs plus lotion, instead. puffs have pillowy

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immediately confronts that critic and engages with them. >> chuck jones. >> chuck jones, i'm sorry. most -- in the past, you'd see a lot of transition staff say, look, this is -- we don't want to engage in a day-to-day back and forth with any of our adversaries on this, let's take the political win and go. donald trump not the case. >> david, trump fired back immediately tweeting, i read it once. again, maybe we can put it up. "chuck jones, president of united steelworkers 1999 have done a terrible job representing workers. no wonder companies flee country." he's taken on lots of us in the media as a whole. it's another to take on boeing on united technologies. what about taking on an individual american citizen like this who is fighting for workers? >> yeah, it's incredibly thin skinned and at least to my mind not becoming of the office that president-elect trump is about to assume. look, if president-elect trump and vice president-elect pence dispute the numbers that chuck jones is giving to cnn or to the "washington post," then, of course, it's well within their right to say, no,

chuck jones. >> chuck jones. i'm sorry. in the past you would see a lot of transition staff say look, this is -- we don't want to engage in a day to day back and forth with any of your adversaries on this. let's take the political win. donald trump, not the case. >> trump fired back tweeting chuck jones, who is president of united steelworkers 1999 has done a terrible job representing workers. no wonder companies flee country. it's one thing to take on media. and he has taken on lots of us, and the media as a whole. it's another thing to take on boeing or united technology. what about taking on an american citizen like this who is fighting for workers? >> it's incredibly threaten skinned. and it leads to my mine not becoming to the office that president-elect trump is about to assume. if president-elect trump and vice president president-elect pence dispute the numbers chuck jones is giving to cnn or the washington post then of course it's well within their right to say no this is not our understanding of the deal points. t

than chuck jones. at a trump rally tonight in iowa, donald trump did the same old song. that he's been doing about how he's going to threaten american companies to keep jobs in the united states. >> remember years ago we used to proudly display "made in the usa." you go get a car right. we don't, have you ever seen it? we're doing a lot of talking to a lot of companies who are thinking about leaving, and i tell you, i don't think they're going to be leaving so fast anymore. >> and you will never see "made in the usa" on any product sold by anyone in the trump family. tonight donald trump barely mentioned his big triumph, saving those carrier jobs, because chuck jones has ruined that whole story for donald trump. here's donald trump's only reference tonight to carrier. >> don't forget, much harder when a company announced a year and a half ago. some of these companies like carrier announced long before i even knew i was going to be running for president. it's very hard to tell somebody we don't want you

chuck jones heads up the local branch of his union. mr. girard. trump tweeted twice about the appearance last night. do you think what trump did was appropriate in any what? >> i'm a bit like chuck, i've only got a flip phone. when i landed last night in washington and i got the messages, i tell you, i was a bit sad and and a bit disappointed. i really felt that wasn't a role for president elect trump to go after chuck jones. what chuck was doing was in fact terrifying. he has a responsibility to the members of his local union. and when he heard that there were going to be 1100 jobs saved those families were excited to have a shot at some security. when he investigated that is when he found out there were 780 jobs to be saved and 70 management jobs. and he had a responsibility to get the message out. and then he got slammed. and we said very early on. we wrote to president elect trump after the election. and said on the things you want to work on weir willing to work with you. we want to replace the south korean trade deal, etc., but we also want

chuck jones maybe do a sketch about the chuck jones who created bugs bunny. they could have an idea like that. they will use what he does effectively. it's not hurting the show. their ratings are up higher than they've had in ten years. >> we don't know how much of it is pushback or interest in the election. but this dynamic that is going on with social media becoming a conduit of exchange at a high level. we saw an interesting role reversal. bob was on the show with anderson cooper last night. former labor secretary and he decided to speak directly to the president-elect through the television camera because he anticipated that trump was actually watching. here it is. >> let me just say because donald trump is probably watching right now. let me just say with all due respect, mr. trump, you are president-elect of the united states. you are looking and acting as if you are mean and petty, thin skinned and vindictive. stop this. this is not a fireside chat. this is not what fdr did. this is actually penalizing people who are speaking their minds. >> he was tal

tonight you have the united steel workers union tweeting support for chuck jones. and you have mike pence talking about what a good hard working man chuck jones is, tweeting a photo of him with chuck jones from several months ago. >> this business of a president-elect or president going after an individual american could have, former labor secretary robert reich said, a chilling effect. >> yes, i'm just back from trump nation, my parents' house. the trump world view is that he's standing up for the little guy, and the trump world view is that the little guy has not been well-served by union bosses who collect dues and they feel like they've left behind a lot of workers. that said, what trump is going to have to reckon with is that the american presidency is a bully pulpit like none other, and every word you utter, every facial expression you make, everything you wear, everything you drive, everything you eat, makes a statement the world over. so -- and there is a word for this. it is bullying. when you cyber bully a normal person, a man going about his life in his

chuck jones has done a terrible job representing workers. no wonder companies flee country. >> first of all that wasn't very nice. but that must mean i'm doing a good job. because these people are making a decent wage at carrier. and i feel like i'm somewhat involved in making that happen. and he does everything he can to keep unions out of his hotels and casinos in this country, depriving them of making a living wage. so i don't put a whole hell of a lot of faith in anything he says. i just don't pay a lot of attention to him. >> do you still standby what you told me earlier. you had your frustrations. you thought he should have had the numbers right but you were still grateful in saving the jobs he did save t nearly $800 jobs from carrier do. you still standby that is this. >> i stand by that a 100%. and instead of saying hey, i got that wrong and jones is right on his numbers, then he wants to attack me. i think that is pretty low down, low life. and you know, does it bother me? no hell no. i'm going to still be able to sleep tonight and

chuck jones said he would gladly sit down with mr. trump and talk about how they both can work together to save jobs in america. do you think that's possible? >> i think it's highly possible. we have already seen him demonstrate this with the carrier deal. what you are seeing is a renaissance of the american worker -- >> we haven't seen it demonstrated with chuck jones, though. i'm talking about the union guy, chuck jones. >> you have seen donald trump sit down with some of his biggest adversaries, people who criticized him and did everything they could not to see him elected as president. he sat down with them, shown them an olive branch and is even considering them or actually, when you look at someone like nikki haley who was opposed to him, he's already given her an unbelievable post. he is actually doing what he said he would do, bringing america together. >> david? do you think he would? >> well, he might. what we have seen with the president-elect so far is an interesting contrast. he's been making very conciliatory statements

chuck jones, thank you. appreciate it. >>> joining me now, senator bernie sanders of vermont. senator, let me ask you with your reaction to the man who is soon to be the most powerful person on the earth, i don't think that's hyperbole, using his platform to insult and attack a union president in indianapolis. >> i mean, i think what can we say, chris, the word, incredible, unbelievable, is no longer applicable to mr. trump because he does one crazy thing after another. but to attack a local labor leader in indianapolis who has fought valiantly for his workers to protect the jobs of his steelworkers is really unbelievable, but as is usually the case with mr. trump, there's more beneath the surface and that is what he was really doing is i think sending the message to the entire trade union movement that do not stand up and fight for working people or we're going to go after you. we need to, in my view, we need to grow the trade union movement in america. we need to make it easier for workers to be able to enjoy in collective bargaining and where trump is saying is exactly the

we'll hear from chuck jones about that treat coming up in a moment. first, reaction today from carrier, he joins us now. what have people been saying there about the president-elect's tweets? >> reporter: well, it's been a really crazy, remarkable 28 hours for chuck jones and a lot of people here especially those associated with carrier in the background, they see it as a really, you know, kind of lopsided david and goliath battle here. you got the president-elect criticizing what is a relatively obscure president of a very small local here in indianapolis, but chuck jones doesn't own a smartphone. he's got a flip phone. he didn't even know that president-elect trump had tweeted anything until his flip phone blew up and didn't know much about twitter but he does now. and the phone calls just keep rolling in today. an avalanche of them. also flowers and gifts. and that gives you an idea that many people who are calling in essenti certainly the ones i listen ed o were supporting chuck jones, even a janitor called from minneapolis. there were also the fa

chuck jones, president of the uaw has done a terrible job representing workers. no wonder companies flee the country. then an hour later, tweeting this. if united steel workers was any good, they would have kept the jobs in indiana. let's give you the facts. initially carrier planned to move 1,400 jobs to mexico. trump and carrier struck a deal to save 1,100 jobs. 300 are administrative that will never move to mexico. in total, 800 workers will stay employed. those jobs were saved. carrier is still shifting about 600 jobs to mexico some time next year. >> i want to bring in eugene scott to talk about all this. eugene, if you were watching cnn overnight, this was an interesting back and forth. chuck jones, the union leader saying the numbers donald trump has said out loud don't add up. he is saving jobs, but not all the jobs he said he was. then donald trump responding and calling him out by name. yes, on twitter. it doesn't matter. when you have the president-elect, the man who will be president, calling out someone by name, has an impact. now chuck jones is gett

a guy by the name of chuck jones. he's the president of the united steel workers 1999, one of the guys who's there representing the guys doing the tough work at that carrier plant that donald trump visited last week. what struck me about this back and forth, donald trump said chuck jones is doing, quote, a terrible job is there is a safety issue here, too. chuck jones himself, who responded to that tweet, now says he's getting harassed and even getting death threats. >> reporter: right. i spoke to chuck jones earlier today. he said autos getting threats. he said, look, i've dealt with a lot worse. i'm a tough guy. i can deal with this. but the bottom line is, it underscores the power of the president-elect. the fact he's having this twitter feud with chuck jones, this union boss, and now you're seeing a backlash and people actually threatening him. the argument chuck jones is making, peter, is that, look, he appreciates the fact that president-elect has saved some jobs with carrier corporation but he says he' exaggera

moments after chuck jones made his case on cnn, donald trump tweeted, chuck jones, who is president of united steel workers 1999, has done a terrible job representing workers. no wonder companies flee the country. an hour later, this tweet, if united steelworkers 1999 was any good, they would have kept those jobs in indiana, spend more time working, less time talking, reduce dues. there is a lot more to get into here. i want to bring in cnn's sunlan serfaty, also here in washington. before we get back to this trump versus jones showdown, what can you tell us about the president-elect's meetings today? >> another busy morning for the president-elect today at trump tower before he does hit the road. perhaps most notably this morning, someone who just went in to trump tower a few minutes ago and is set to sit down with the president-elect at some point soon is former nato commander james trevitis, under possible consideration for secretary of state. his name really seems to be one of the few that were added as donald trump in the last week has really expanded his search for a secretary of

chuck jones joins us this morning on the phone. again, his union represents workers at both the carrier and rexnord plants in indiana. mr. jones, great to have you with us. thanks for your time. >> thank you very much for having me. >> you regret criticizing trump publicly? >> no, not at all. what i did was trying to get the people to understand that the numbers mr. trump and governor pence gave weren't accurate. and some of the statements that he made weren't accurate and i stand behind all of them. i'm not sorry about what i said. >> does it inhibit you from calling him out on any topic from here on out? is there a silencing effect? >> no. no. it don't effect me one iota. i've been doing the work of the union for 30 some odd years and a whole lot more drastic things have happened. and i've got through them. so, no, this is not a big deal by no means. >> talk about some of the numbers behind the criticism you said when you said that he was lying -- i won't repeat exactly what you said, but what should he have said in his appearanc

on twitter when all chuck jones did was bring to light -- chuck jones went after donald trump. >> no, chuck jones defended his union workers. >> the steelworkers union that donald trump saved 800 jobs. >> 730. this is the problem. the boeing plane is not $4 billion. >> you just said you were happy with one but 730 is not a good thing anymore. >> that's not right, though. >> i'm talking about why the mainstream media and people as lisa pointed out on the right and left are concerned about this. there is an argument to be made that donald trump is meddling in the free market, he's bullying people just like he did throughout the campaign. >> who did he bully? >> hillary clinton. >> the free market. >> carrier. >> stop. we're a business show. what he did was he offered incentives. >> he offered government money which he ran against -- >> -- that was in conjunction with the carrier commitment to spend $16 million. he shouldn't do it just for carrier in my opinion, rachel, he should offer that came deal to every american corporation, our stock market would be off the charts, your 401(k) at

on twitter when all chuck jones did was bring to light -- chuck jones went after donald trump. >> no, chuck jones defended his union workers. >> the steelworkers union that donald trump saved 800 jobs. >> 730. this is the problem. the boeing plane is not $4 billion. >> you just said you were happy with one but 730 is not a good thing anymore. >> that's not right, though. >> i'm talking about why the mainstream media and people as lisa pointed out on the right and left are concerned about this. there is an argument to be made that donald trump is meddling in the free market, he's bullying people just like he did throughout the campaign. >> who did he bully? >> hillary clinton. >> the free market. >> carrier. >> stop. we're a business show. what he did was he offered incentives. >> he offered government money which he ran against -- >> -- that was in conjunction with the carrier commitment to spend $16 million. he shouldn't do it just for carrier in my opinion, rachel, he should offer that came deal to every american corporation, our sck market would be off the charts, your 401(k) at h

chuck jones said this guy was lying. what is the real number as best you can figure out? >> there are a couple different numbers reported in the media here but 1100 is the most recent. the lowest number of have heard was 800 and the at beginning of this discussion, kind of centered around a round number of 1000. liz: let's make a couple things clear. donald trump said 1100. chuck jones was saying 350 engineering jobs trump was counting were never scheduled to leave. 550 still lose their jobs. but look, some were saved. however, the state of indiana, what we do know is that it will get 7 million in incentives over 10 years. let's just talk about this. the battle over twitterverse is not necessarily conducive to anything beyond helping us get a conversation about what is really going on the ground in indiana. what is happening there with the businesses you deal with? >> well, you know it is interesting, social media makes for sometimes good coverage than the regular media but the fact of the matter a lost -- lot of hoosiers keep their jobs. that is very important. i'm fond

look, i spoke to chuck jones. his position, steph, is that he thinks it's a great thing, what donald trump has done, that he's come in, saved these jobs, but he's frustrated because he feels as though he's exaggerating the numbers. president-elect trump says he saved more than 1,000 jobs. the reality is it's closer to 800 because 300 of those jobs were already going to stay. but the broader question here, steph, is this what we're going to see from a president trump? is he going to continue to engage in these tit for tats over twitter? we saw this not only with chuck jones, but with "snl," boeing. you can add up the list since he's become president-elect and that raises questions even for his supporters. should he be engaging still in twitter. he said he was going to be more restrained on twitter. the reason why it's important is you have someone like a chuck jones saying he's getting threats in the wake of this now very public dispute that he's having with the president-elect. i did speak to chuck jones this morn

i understand chuck jones' position. it is a point i agree to disagree. hopefully they had a press conference this morning at the union hall, chuck jones admittedly said he is more than willing to work with mr. trump on resolving all of this, with carrier, for rexnord, for all the companies that he can help, that he wants to work together. liz: kyle, do you think donald trump could have, do you think donald trump can help save your job if the union boss had not said what he said? >> i don't, i don't know because my company is pretty headset that they're moving to monterey, mexico, no matter what. i can hold on to hope. i hope something can happen. right now we won't know. their final proposal is coming this next week. we're going to have to see what the groundwork is laid. liz: do you support donald trump? >> i do. i voted for him. i've been on his train since the very beginning. so, i know that that rubs wrong with a lot of my union brothers and sisters but, i believe in what he said. i trust in what he said. i believe in time that he will get it accompl

but it's such a contrast to what chuck jones is saying. he doesn't believe that, obviously. >> well, what we need to happen is for a whole new paradigm to our can so we make it a no-brainer for companies to say, obviously, i'm going to build in america, because the ecosystem is so great, we have to build here. it makes all the financial sense in the world. so that has to change. so that guys like chuck and his workers and my employees can thrive and prosper. how's that going to happen? well, that's what governor pence lined up. he described several plans that he's going to institute with president-elect trump, which will make it so easy for factories to grow and thrive and prosper in america. things like repealing -- >> uh-huh? go ahead. >> for example, he mentioned three things. repeal obamacare. number two, roll back regulations that add to value, that don't clean the environment, that don't improve the livelihood of employees, and lastly, tax reform. if we have a new tax reform system, all of a sudden we'll be competitive. it makes no s

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now chuck jones is receiving threats. what is your analysis? remember, this is the president-elect of the united states. >> a couple things here. one, i know that to some people at home, we're quibbling over 300 jobs? to those people, that's real. 300 families around kitchen tables experiencing layoffs. that's why we see the union officials so worked up about this. donald trump is going to find himself in a very precarious, daily situation as president if he's going to single out single companies or individuals each day on his tweeter feed. it's going to be very hard to govern overall. he's going to get mired in these individual controversies instead of trying to make the larger point, creating legislation or policy goals that will help him make his larger point, rather than get mired into one on one controversies. >> chuck jones, the local union leader, he was on cnn criticizing donald trump saying he lied about the number of jobs that were saved. obviously donald trump didn't like what he was watching apparently on cnn. what does that say abo

chuck jones doesn't own a smart phone. he's got a flip phone. so he didn't even know president trump had tweeted anything until the phone calls just kept rolling in to him. and an avalanche of phone calls today and flowers and gifts. many calling in, certainly the ones i listened to were supporting chuck jones. thanks for supporting. and also the famous people who called in. bernie sanders called him up and said hey, again, thanks for standing up against donald trump he said now chuck jones is now the most famous labor leader in all of america. and it is not all positive. there have been a number of threats jones says he received. he laughs them off. but most folks who take him pretty seriously. people say we know where you work, we know what you drive, and do you know where your kids where r? and chuck jones says simply i've negotiated union contracts for over 30 years. i've been threatened by the past. these guys nothing to those he's in the past. >> a lot to get to with the panels. we await donald trump to make remarks tonight. with me cnn po

here was chuck jones, by the way, just yesterday, the labor leader. >> i appreciate mr. trump getting involved and saving as many people's livelihoods as he did. so i don't think that can go without being said. i just wish that he'd have had the numbers down. >> well, minutes later, donald trump took to twitter himself. quote, chuck jones, who is president of the united steelworkers 1999 has done a terrible job representing workers. no wonder companies flee country. and then he went, "and if united steel workers 1999 was any good, they would have kept those jobs in indiana. spend more time working, less time talking. reduce dues! what does this latest back and forth tell us about the trump presidency. joining me now, trump's campaign manager and senior adviser to the trump transition, kellyanne conway. by the way, kellyanne, i don't think you hear much of this, but in the feminist world, we talk about it a lot, me and my senior executive producers and others. and that is, you're the first woman to win, actually to break the glass ceiling and manage a successful winning p

chuck jones, he said he is now receiving death threats as a result. a very interesting back and forth. carrier deal is a fascinating thing. it raise as lot of questions of successes donald trump will have and at what cost. it is an important discussion. >> and interestingly enough, a lot of people in the union, meaning the members, those were some of the people who voted for him. >> he did save 800 jobs, but not all the jobs he said he did. >>> a day after the president-elect threatened to cancel the order of air force one jets, boeing says they will work to control costs. the costs of the new air force one is out of control. he also said cancel order. he spoke to the press and said boeing shouldn't make as much money. after boeing ceo and president-elect trump spoke on the phone, he said he would work with the administration and the president-elect said we will work it out. >>> a federal judge has halted the recount of votes for president in michigan. one of three battleground states where trump narrowly beat hillary clinton. recounts in michigan and

again on twitter against the carrier union leader chuck jones after he called into question trump's math over how many jobs the deal he brokered with carrier actually saved. jones appearing on cnn last night. >> 550 are still going to lose their jobs. >> reporter: trump tweeting minutes later that jones did a terrible job on blaming job losses on jones. if united steel workers 1999 was any good, they would have kept those jobs in indiana. jones then calling into "anderson cooper 360" to respond directly to trump's attack. >> because of corporate greed and unfair trade they want to move these jobs out of the country. if he wants to blame me, so be it. i look at him how many billions of dollars he spent on his hotels and casinos trying to keep labor unions out. >> reporter: today at trump tower the president-elect will be meeting with one potential secretary of state contender, former nato commander james stavridis and then he'll travel to columbus, ohio, to meet with victims and first responders

trump's wrath was chuck jones, an had the crust to say that mr. trump exaggerated the number of jobs he saved last week at the carrier company. >> if in fact it was an oversight, you know, it's a big mistake. not knowing how many people's livelihoods you're negotiating to keep here in this country. >> reporter: the president-elect claimed he'd saved 1,100 jobs at carrier. >> by the way, that number's going to go up very substantially. >> reporter: as cbs news reported last week, the actual number is 800 jobs saved. but mr. trump did not like b "chuck jones," he tweeted, "has done a terrible job representing workers, and if united steelworkers 1999 was any good they would have kept those jobs in indiana. spend more time working, less time talking." but jones said his members felt betrayed. >> they're upset because they got their hopes up that they was going to be able to provide for their families for a while, to have that hope ripped away. as his new labor secretary andrew puzder, a fast food chain ceo and anti-regulation crusader who says raising

chuck jones has done a terrible job of representing workers, no flee the country. jones doesn't want trump to get credit for saving non-union jobs. the truth is, there was a great union chasm. and people like chuck jones wanted hillary clinton to win so they could deliver the rust belt to another pro-union democrat so they could give dues to people like hillary. in ohio, hillary clinton lost among union households, 49-44%. something like that was unthinkable even four years ago. now bosses have set themselves -- choking to death under a union strangleholds. member o member this election saw the rank and file turn on the bozos in charge as they started to think and vote for themselves. it's not just auto workers and steel peeps. teachers want to keep crusty old failures in the classroom, results be damned. god forbid teachers get rewarded for breaking through to young minds. cities in california, arizona and illinois teeter on the edge of bankruptcy unable to pay for basic services as their municipalities suffer under the weight of government and union collusion. th

>> i think apparently on twitter -- i'm like chuck jones. i've got a flip phone, so i don't get the trail of that stuff, but what i understand is that there's literally tens of thousands of tweeters and facebook stuff they're saying they're with chuck and being very positive and constructive because they know chuck was just doing his job. let me come back to something that the president said that i want to work with him and support. he said he wanted to get rid of the trade deals. our union has been fighting these rotten trade deals for more than 35 years. we're willing to work with the president to replace and repair trade deals with nafta, cafta, bntr, korea. we want to work for with him. he says he wants to repair and replace or replace and repair those trade deals. we want to work with him. any company, and this is important to rexnord, boeing, and others, any companies that wants to take jobs out of america to another country to export the low -- exploit the low-wage environment is going to export those jobs back to america, he wants to

what happens when chuck jones gets attacked? what happens when someone sets fire, what happens when someone who donald trump attacks online and again, he attacked him. the guy didn't say i hate donald trump. we don't even know if chuck jones voted for him. he just said look, he said he was going to save 1100 jobs, he only saved 700, this is dangerous. and dictators do that. dictators bully people. dictators use that kind of arbitrary power. if donald trump wants to save jobs that's great, that's what he ran on. i think he should bring his own companies back first before going to local places but this is dangerous and i think it should concern any american citizen, republican or democrat. >> ron, jason is using the word dictator. that's strong. >> look, i don't think we are in that point. i think, i can see why people would feel this is kind of a road toward a kind of rejecting kind of the voice of pluralism and legitimate voices of dissent. i would not go that far. i do think people ought to be concerned about what the implicati

chuck jones is the president of a local united steelworkers union, he said trump lied his ass off. he said they pulled a dog and pony show on the voters and he almost threw up in his mouth. chuck jones has done a terrible job of representing workers, no wonder companies flee the country. jones doesn't want trump to get credit for saving non-union jobs. the truth is, there was a great union chasm. and people like chuck jones wanted hillary clinton to win so they could deliver the rust belt to another pro-union democrat so they could give dues to people like hillary. in ohio, hillary clinton lost among union households, 49-44%. something like that was unthinkable even four years ago. now bosses have set themselves -- choking to death under a union strangleholds. member o member this election saw the rank and file turn on the bozos in charge as they started to think and vote for themselves. it's not just auto workers and steel peeps. teachers want to keep crusty old failures in the classroom, results be damned. god forbid teachers get rewarded for breaking through to young minds. citi

"chuck jones," he tweeted, "has done a terrible job representing workers." and "if united steelworkers 1999 was any good they would have kept those jobs in indiana. spend more time working, less time talk." continuing on the worker's front mr. trump named as his new labor secretary andrew puzder, a fast food chain ceo and anti-regulation crusader who says raising the minimum wage is bad for business. >> we are not dependent on the government at our company for any particular benefits. so i don't really think american businesses should be. >>> overseas, the syrian government says it's halted its assault on the besieged city of aleppo. the regime wants to give trapped civilians time to evacuate before a final push to oust the rebels. debora patta is there. >> reporter: 7-year-old abdul ghani tarab was eating lunch when a shell hit his home two weeks ago. shrapnel tore through his body as syrian and russian bombs continued to rain down. his parents told us there was only one very basic makeshift clinic still working. it wasn't equipped to help their son. "i fel

chuck jones is like a grandpa to her. and i said well, sweetheart, that's all i can do is tell you that in your prayers, pray for him. pray for him that he saves jobs and pray for him that he does a good job and he keeps us safe in the united states. that's the only message i can send. he's going to be our president for the next four years and i will support him as he goes along as president but at the same time, if he wants to keep picking -- if he wants to pick fights on twitter, we will fight right back. but we are not going to stop the fight when it comes to free trade. we are all about fair trade. if he says he's going to renegotiate these deals, then let's renegotiate these deals. just like president leo gerard said last night. he sent a letter saying he would be happy to lend a hand to help negotiate these deals. since then, he has not heard a word back. >> as you mentioned, january 20th when he will become president, he will have the power to start renegotiating the deals. that's when you can keep him accountable

i spoke to chuck jones earlier today. he said he's dealt with a whole lot worse, but at the same time, he stands by his allegation that the president-elect is essentially inflating the number of jobs he saved at carrier corporation. i tell you, carrier corporation confirms that, tamron, president-elect trump can take credit for saving about 800 jobs but 300 jobs were already set to stay in place and as you know, the president-elect has been saying he saved 1100 jobs. so chuck jones is saying, hey, you should get credit for saving those jobs but don't inflate the numbers. and what makes this so striking, a couple of things, tamron, this was the president-elect's first big win and now he's locked in a battle with the very people he essentially said he's trying to help and it raises the broader question. is the president-elect going to have these tit for tats on twitter? a lot of supporters say it's time now to shift away from twitter and really get into the mode of governing and they argue this undercuts his seriousness as

this after the president-elect escalated a twitter war with carrier union leader chuck jones who told nbc's hallie jackson last hour that he's okay. >> maybe i could have phrased it in a different manner,ut it is what it is, and i stand behind all my comments. even calling him out on the numbers that he was using. i'm not offended or anything else by his comments. really don't faze me one way or another. >> let's dig into this. kristin welker and hallie jackson who spoke with jones last hour. i know you had a chance to speak with that union leader. what more did he have to say and does he consider himself fair game? >> yeah, i think so, and he has no regrets. i think thats with one of the big takeaways. he said days will go donald trump lied his butt off. he was using more colorful language than that. he says i don't regret saying that. donald trump said 1,100 jobs would be saved. the number even according to carrier is closer to 800. i acally also spoke with jones last night right after these eets started happening. evers explaining that he was getting threats, people who said, hey,

. >> moments after chuck jones made his case on cnn, president-elect trump tweeted "chuck jones who is president of the united steel workers 1999 is has done a terrible job representing workers. no wander companies flee country." an our later he tweeted "if united 1999 was any good they would have kept those jobs in indiana, spend more time working, less talking, reduce dues." let's talk to brian stelter with much more on this. having read about chuck jones today, he's getting death threats apparently because of this twitter back and forth because he has a flip phone but we know the president-elect retweeted a 16-year-old, he's going after private citizens. is this the new normal? >> this is the tv twitter/tv twitter cycle, brooke. it's what twitter and facebook want everybody to do. well, the president-elect is somebody who would do that. president obama was criticized for not watching cable news enough now we're seeing an overcorrection, donald trump tweeting cable news like it's an intelligence briefing. he gets information from other sources as well but i have to hope he's getting

so reed, why go after chuck jones? >> well, this is donald trump's style, right? he goes after anybody that -- who attacks him personally, and this deal with carrier is something that has some holes in it. and has there's still questions to be answered about it. states make these deals a lot but they don't always -- the companies with which they make the deals don't always necessarily come through. in nevada a few years ago the state gave away about a billion dollars in tax incentives to tesla to build a big factory outside of reno and there was a report just yesterday in one of the las vegas papers that showed that tesla has not hired the number of people that they said they would have hired by now. so you have to keep an eye on these deals as they go forward. because the company will still get the tax break, not necessarily having to keep all the jobs in the state. >> because you know companies are in the business of making money and we should never forget that. rebecca, mr. trump said that mr. jones was any kind of union boss he would have kept those jobs in in

following the comments about chuck jones. he announced his picks for labor secretary. it happens to be union critic andy patzer. the bosch -- the washington post the gravest crisis in decades. considered he announced the nomination less than 24 hours ago. net, what is it that they disliked so much about andy. there are couple of things to remember. >> this is not a fight with the union workers it's a fight with the union bosses. this is not a fight with the union records. they are the ones that are raising all of these money and then turning around and using them against us. i love the fact that trump has done this with the labor department. he's can undercut and undermined the credibility of union bosses which could not had implications only in the short term but in the future. we have talked repeatedly about how they were really left behind. and it's one of the reasons why she failed to win in these elections. the people that are running doesn't unions and shops they been big supporters of the left because the left has supported them. it's coming at the expense of th

trump's wrath was chuck jones, an indianapolis union president who had the crust to say that mr. trump exaggerated the number of jobs he saved last week at the carrier company. >> if in fact oversight, you know, it was a big mistake not knowing how many people's livelihoods you're negotiating to keep here in this country. >> reporter: the president-elect claimed he'd saved 1100 jobs at carrier. >> by the way, that number's going to go up very substantially. >> reporter: as cbs news reported last week, the actual number is 800 jobs saved. but there trump did not like being corrected. chuck jones, he tweeted, has done a terrible job representing workers, and if united they would have kept those jobs in indiana. spend more time working, less time talk." continuing on the worker's front mr. trump named as his new labor secretary andrew puzder, a fast food chain ceo and anti-regulation crusader who says raising the minimum wage is bad for business. >> we are not dependent on the government at our company for any particular benefits. so i don't think american businesses should be. >>>

. >>> we're following a lot of news and we will speak to that union leader chuck jones in just moments. let's get right to it. >> buy american and hire american. >> what you, mr. trump, would like is for nobody to criticize you. >> i didn't attack him. i just called him out on where i felt he misled the people. >> companies are not going to leave the united states any more. >> if you have this kind of thin skinneddictivevindictiveness, w very deep trouble and so are you. >> it's the success they had. >> trump adding another general to his cabinet. >> scott pruitt. >> democrats and environmentalists are sounding the pick about trump's pick to head the epa. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> we say hello to you and welcome to your new day. president-elect donald trump announcing new appointments to his cabinet 30 days after claiming victory. trump picking another general. this is his third. this time to lead homeland security. he also tapped a climate change skeptic to head up the epa. >> this as the president-elect takes to twitter to target a union

i think chuck jones is probably a unique breed. then you hear megyn kelly. i'm sure she's dealt with nonsense for a long time, host on fox news, and she had to get armed guards because of things donald trump said. >> donald trump, i think, has been responsible for a large part of it over the past year, from what he is doing. but i think it is different. i understand what you're saying about someone like megyn. personally, she's not afraid of it, but the threats that come from it, people have to take seriously. she did get guards. it is true. here's what was said about safe spacers earlier on fox. >> a technical term would be wuss move. >> being sarcastic or do they really want it? >> it is possible. the point of voting for trump is you disawe propprove of things safe spaces. instead of demanding an equal safe space, stand up and call the bluff for enforcing this, but name calling and fear. >> go ahead. >> well, i mean, the whole safe space thing is kind of weird. remember a couple years ago, ed rendell did a book, "we've become a nations of wusses." i can't

. >> the union president, chuck jones, criticized trump's deal with the company saying 550 jobs were still heading to mexico. now the #i'm with chuck is trending on twitter. >> news 4's tracie potts is live on capitol hill now. president elect calling out jones on twitter. take a look at these tweets, he said chuck jones who is the president of the united steelworkers 1999 has done a terrible job representing workers. no wonder companies flee the country. then jones shot back, then they had this back and forth on twitter. the president elect weighing in again saying that they needed to reduce their dues with the union saying it's the dues that allow he alleges with this deal with carrier. the upshot of all of this is that jones now says he's getting threats, more threats, as a result of these tweets. >>> donald trump made a number of new cabinet appointments yesterday. what can you tell us about those. >> several people. let's start out with oklahoma's attorney general scott pruitt who has been tapped as head of the epa. general john kelly department of homeland security according to