phil mudd, you worked at the cia. you're a former cia officer. what was your reaction to his speech over at cia headquarters? >> well, you almost want to cry, wolf. i mean, there's a sense of outrage, but a sense of sadness. those aren't stars. those are people. those aren't people from decades ago. those are people from today. that is one star jennifer matthews who lost her life to an al qaeda suicide bomber in afghanistan and whose children were still growing up and we have a president who has to talk about how many times he's been on the "time" magazine cover in comparison to a football player. he's got to talk about how many people showed up at his inauguration, got to talk about how many people in the cia enjoyed his speech. that's what we get to honor the people who lost their lives and also to talk about what the future of american security is in front of hundreds of cia officers who want the story, again, for what life is for people who want to live on the city on a hill. that's america. the shining city on the hill. and what do we get? h

the cia operates in the shadows. its officers are often undercover and sometimes work in hostile and fear environments. it's not just a job but a lifestyle. the clandestine nature of the agency's work, however, is both, is both the greatest capability and most challenging liability as its activities are outside the public view. we address that liability by calling upon the president to nominate individuals with unwavering integrity, and the senate approves only those who are assured will lead this organization lawfully, ethically and morally. mike, i have reviewed the material provided by you prior to this hearing and have spoken with you personally. you enrolled in the united states military academy as a teenager. you graduated first in your class before serving as a calvary officer. he went on to learn all earn a law degree at harvard and founded an aerospace company where you served as ceo for more than a decade. you are in your third term representing the people from the fourth district of kansas and oversaw the

the cia must continue to be at the forefront of this issue. one of my top priorities if confirmed is to assist in the defeat of isis. we must maintain an aggressive count counterterrorism process. we must be assess the progress made. while i opposed the iran deal as a member of congress, if confirmed, my role will change. i'll lead the agency to aggressively pursue operations, and make sure analysts have the time and resources to make objective and sound judgments. similarly, it's a policy decision with respect to how we will deal with russia but essential that the agency provide accurate, timely, robust and complete analysis of russian activities to the greatest extent feasible. as a member of the house intelligence committee, i fully appreciate the need for transparency and support from members of congress. i've lived it. we owe it to our consistetitueno get to the bottom of intelligence failures and not to shirk our responsibility or when snowden misleads the american people about intelligence activities. on my first visit to cia headquarte

the cia operates in the shadows. its officers are often undercover and sometimes work in hostile and austere vibes. environments. it's not simply a job for many,s but a lifestyle. the clandestine nature of the agency's work, however, is both the greatest capability and mose challenging liability as its activities are outside the public view. we address that liability by calling upon the president to nominate be individuals with unwavering integrity, and the senate approves only those we are assured will lead this organization ethically and morally. mike, i've reviewed the material provided by you prior to this confirmation hearing and and have spoken with you personally. you enrolled in the united states military academy at west point as a teenager. you graduated first in your class before serving as a cavalry officer. you went on to earn a law degree at harvard and founded an aerospace be company where you served as ceo for more than a cy decade. you are in your third term representing the people from the 4th distri

cia. >> but, this is even a bigger this evening, too, right? we've been talking about this. day in and day out. and quite frankly, he did it on his nurgs day last night, he went to the military balls, he supposedly took questions from soldiers over in afghanistan, which they were all congratulatory salutations, which you would expect soldiers saying that to their commander in chief. and donald trump said, you're so nice, it's being so nice to me, it's so nice to get -- he said, it's so nice to get these nice questions. >> and i was in the room, he said, as opposed to those people in the back of the room. the usual media riff. >> this is what scares me. if donald trump feels like he has been attacked, he is going to do something to try to attack you back. okay, that's fine during a pressure campaign. when you're the leader of the free world, you have got to be careful. and i don't know if he is -- right now, what we've seen today, does he really have the fortitude to hold it in, the inner s

>> that's not the forum to do it. 117 dead cia officers to get into politics makes the cia nervous. they look at trump as unpredictable. what he said today, you know, wasn't completely reassuring. we have to remember, anderson, that the cia currently is investigating the president for russian links and his advisers and his connections with the ukraine and on and on. it is unclear how that's going to go. the new cia director still hasn't made up his mind whether he's going to ask the cia to go back to using torture and water boarding. it is all up in the air. demoralize, i'm not sure i would call the cia that, but war wary of the coming days. >> general, you served in iraq over your long storied career. you make the point that there are a lot of moving parts in the world right now, military, intelligence and around the globe that could come into play sooner rather than later. is that where the president's focus should be on right now, rather than crowd size and attacks in the media and stuff like that. >> i think probably sometime within the next 30 to 60 days we're going to have som

we had been showing you the confirmation hearing this morning for the next cia director mike pompeo. everything was moving along fine until we lost the signal from the office building on capitol hill. it turns out the hearing room and the whole building lost power. the hearing, as we understand it , has come to a stop. it's being investigated and of course we will return to live coverage when we get word that the power has been restored here on c-span2. right now we will show you the hearing from the start, all the way up until when they lost power. [inaudible conversation] [inaudible conversation] [inaudible conversation] [inaudible conversation] [inaudible conversation] [inaudible conversation] [inaudible conversation] i would like to call this hearing to order. one procedural matter before we begin, we meet today prior to president-elect trump's inauguration and therefore have not yet received pompeo's nomination to be director of central intelligence agency. we cannot vote on a record denomination until it's received in the u.s. senate. today we will have a hearing and expectatio

on behalf of the men and women of the cia, thank you for taking the time to join us. it means a great deal that you chose to come to cia on your first full day as president. [applause] >> and now it is my pleasure and privilege to introduce the vice president of the united states mike pence. [applause] vice president pence: thank you to the acting director, thank you for 27 years serving the united states of america here at the cia. [applause] it's a great privilege for me to be with you today. and to have the opportunity to introduce at his first event on his first full day the new president of the united states donald trump. [applause] as you can imagine it is equally humbling for my family and i do find ourselves in this role. i'm grateful for the president for the opportunity he has given me. it is humbling for me to be an cerd fo ts t wl,hewh t uim frdo ys ouenat m e es i've gotten to know our new president, we've traveled a lot together. when the cameras are off. i can tell you two things for sure. number one, i have never met anyone more dedicated to the safety

the cia must continue to be at the forefront of this issue. as the president-elect has made clear, one of my top priorities if confirmed is to assist in the defeat of isis. we must maintain an aggressive counterterrorism posture and address manifestations of this great threat beyond isis and al qaeda. with respect to iran, we must be rigorously objective in assessing the progress made under the joint plan of action. while i opposed the iran deal, if confirmed, my role will change. i will lead the agency to ensure analysts have the time, political space, and resources to make objective and sound judgments. similarly, it's a policy decision with respect to how we will deal with russia. but it will be essential that the agency provide policymakers with accurate, timely, robust, and complete intelligence and clear-eyed analyst of russian activities to the greatest extent feasible. as a member of the house intelligence committee, i fully appreciate the need for transparency and support from members of congress. i've lived it. we owe it to our stets

the president is at cia, a cia without a director. mike pompeo will probably be confirmed on monday. we still have the "gang of eight" the democrats have at least a chance to stop. any the white house are worried about? >> senator gardner was absolutely correct, president trump is beginning with far fewer cabinet members his predecessors have. the thing for the democrats is, they don't have enough votes to block any of donald trump's cabinet nominees. what they can do is slow it down. one senator wants to wait, so they have to wait for monday to pompeo. at this point the republicans have a majority. all they need to do is keep republicans in line. leland: slow it down and embarass some of the nomineeses as they have already done. want to get your thoughts on this, developing today, much bigger story than we thought it would be, women's march on washington. you may hear the sounds behind us. this is down on the national mall but there are hundreds of thousands of people that have descended on washington. see many of them wearing pink h

the senate about to vote on donald trump's pick to head the cia. this is the president meets with congressional leaders. tonight, a top democrat in that meeting is my guest this evening. plus, a revealing moment in the white house briefing room. press secretary sean spicer telling reporters the media has been too tough on trump. and live from the u.s./mexico border, rare access and exclusive footage outfront of where the president would build the wall. our special series beginning tonight. let's go outfront. >>> good evening. i'm erin burnett. the breaking news. the

the cia operates in the shadows. its offices are often undercover and sometimes work in hostile and austere environments. it's not simply a job for many of the lifestyle. the clandestine nature of the agency's work is both the greatest capability and most challenging liability since the activities are outside of the public view. we addressed that by calling upon the president to nominate apresident to nominatean indivig integrity and the senate approves those that are on the shore or to lead the organization lawfully, ethically and morally. i have heard you and the material provided by you prior to the hearing and have spoken with you personally. you graduated first in her class and went on to learn a law degree at harvard and founded the company. you are in your third term representing people from the fourth district of kansas as a member of the committee on intelligence i believe in the outstanding judgment to make you a natural friend to leave the cia. there would be real-time oversight over the operations and act

. >> when it comes to cia, look, john brennan was a career cia officer. i served the cia under george w. bush and barack obama. i did not see either time, under administration when i was there, intelligence being politicized politicized. we have seen what happens, we see how bad it is for the country. it will be interesting to see what mike pompeo is my like uso cia director. will it be the mike pompeo that was on the intel community com? or what we see the mike pompeo who was on the benghazi committee? who was very outspoken about the iran deal, for example, which the intelligence community had quite a bit of information on. will he stick out for the cia officers when it isn't political convenient? it remains to be seen. >> martha: we will leave it there. pete hoekstra, great to see you. marie harf, welcome. great to have you heard of. also, president trump has a front runner and mind to replace antonin scalia on the supreme court. judge ♪ >> martha: president trump has an ambitions plan for the first 100 days. one of the biggest and most impactful ann

and yet in the cia, he was a cold war asset. he became a spy in europe for america, even though in the cia's own files they noted almost in passing he was under the control of the gestapo during the war, and that he was probably involved in massacres, but he was u.s. material. probably the most insidious of the nazi spies, a man i devote a fair amount of attention to in the book, was barren. he was also a cia recruit and also not a very good one. in 1953 he lost a suitcase filled with top u.s. documents, getting a mixed up with another passenger's luggage and realized instead of secret photos, there were pajamas and shaving kits. but the cia kept him anyway and even helped him move in the united states from new york to california where he lived for decades. the cia said his relocation to the united states which included whitewashing his record for any mention of his nazi service, was a record of the innocuousness of his nazi activities. innocuousness is considering the terms of his boss. this man was the architect for the final

from the outgoing cia director. george, does that statement and the very vituperative language improve relationships with the intelligence community? we have an outgoing cia director sounding like a partisan political hack. about the president of the united states. i think everybody needs to take a step back and a very deep breath, george, and think about what their words are. you had president trump calling for unity, patriotism, giving america back to its people in his inaugural address. the government back to its people. the outgoing cia director making a statement like that. how in the world does that improve relationships with our intelligence community? it was deeply disappointing and unnecessary. >> while we're still on the intelligence community, you know several agencies and the fbi are now investigating possible contacts between trump associates and the russians during the campaign. will president trump pledge to allow those investigations to go forward without any interference from anyone in the white hou

and yet in the cia, he was a cold war asset. he became a spy in europe for america, even though in the cia's own files they noted almost in passing he was under the control of the gestapo during the war, and that he was probably involved in massacres, but he was u.s. material. probably the most insidious of the nazi spies, a man i devote a fair amount of attention to in the book, was barren. he was also a cia recruit and also not a very good one. in 1953 he lost a suitcase filled with top u.s. documents, getting a mixed up with another passenger's luggage and realized instead of secret photos, there were pajamas and shaving kits. but the cia kept him anyway and even helped him move in the united states from new york to california where he lived for decades. the cia said his relocation that -- to the united states which included whitewashing his record for any mention of his nazi service, was a record of the innocuous nest of his -- innocuousness of his nazi activities. thecuousness is considering terms of his boss. this man was

certainly it's a lot of goal, it's one cia would share. >> is there anything we are not given the cia that the american people are not giving, is there something we can do to help the cia? >> the cia needs most policy and constancy of leadership. they are been given resources that are well in abound dance of what we had in 9/11. i don't think it's a resource issue. it's a question of public understanding what the intelligence do, for example, the role of intelligence is to -- i think the public and the administration needs to develop a more sophisticated understand of what this is all about. this is an agencies that's -- they are working against a world that tries to deny it information and tries to deceive it and they have the task of for seeing the future. this is tough. >> it's impossible. >> it's a math kalley expect them to be good. and can try to understand the struggle they have. it's going to be a tough struggle because there's never been a list of issues as long and complicated as today. >> thanks for joining us. >> pleasure. >>> many critics attacking sean spicer about inaug

, there is no question that the cia -- the community of the cia was vehemently in support of hillary clinton's candidacy and with equal vehemence opposed to donald trump. the two leading members of the cia community, former cia director michael morel's of president obama, and former cia director and all hayden reserve under president bush, both inorsed hillary clinton, one "the washington post" and the other in "the new york times." they attacked donald trump with a viciousness that is very rare, claiming he essentially have been turned into, converted, and recruited into a tool of putin. aggressively in favor of hillary clinton's victory. there is a lot of different reasons for that, but i think the primary one is the cia proxy war in syria is something that hillary clinton have promised not just to support, but to escalate. she was critical of obama for restraining the cia's efforts to support these rebels and remove assad, waltrip said we have no business try to change the government of syria. we ought to let russia run free in syria, kill isis, kill whoever else they want to kill

, there is no question that the cia -- the community of the cia was vehemently in support of hillary clinton's candidacy and with equal vehemence opposed to donald trump. the two leading members of the cia community, former cia director michael morel's of president obama, and former cia director and all hayden reserve under president bush, b both inorsed hillary clinton, one "the washington post" and the other in "the new york times." they attacked donald trump with a viciousness that is very rare, claiming he essentially have been turned into, converted, and recruited into a tool of putin. aggressively in favor of hillary clinton's victory. there is a lot of different reasons for that, but i think the primary one is the cia proxy war in syria is something that hillary clinton have promised not just to support, but to escalate. she was critical of obama for restraining the cia's efforts to support these rebels and remove assad, waltrip said we have no business try to change the government of syria. we ought to let russia run free in syria, kill l isis, kill whoever else they want to

you have to ask why the cia briefs so many people?e? even though i am an admirer of the cia and critic of donald trump i can feel his pain and i think that we have to stop making this problem worse. we have to allow for a trust to emerge. that is off to an extremely bad start. >> even if you see both sides in this, bringing it into the public realm the way mr. trump has done it is only going to exacerbate the problem and now you have leaders worried about not only the stability of the next administration but the integrity of u.s. intelligence moving forward. how are you going to maintain credibility when the next president is tweeting that he thinks your agents are thugs? >> i'm a big critic of donald trump but in fairness what you said is not correct. he has not t the person who went public with either of these bombshells. the bombshell about the hacking and disinformation was the obama administration given reports to capitol hill which came out through capitol hill offices to the media. this week it was not trump was saying allegation

. >> the cia didn't have a cia director to be with him today when he visited because the democrats have chosen -- senate democrats are stalling the nomination of mike pompeo and playing politics with national security. >> what's your response, sir? >> that's ridiculous. number one, we have never had a cia director confirmed on the first day. number two, there are very capable people watching over the cia, and, in fact, i told vice president on wednesday, i said, look, we need to have some debate on pompeo and why don't you ask brennan to stay. he was willing to. they refused. and, third, and most important, pompeo is going to have huge, huge power, and there are issues that have been very vexing to the congress. the old debate between security and liberty, so to have a debate on him for a few days. the vote is going to be monday night is what should happen, and i would say to all of my republican colleagues that instead talk about how many people should up at his inauguration. he ought to talk about how many people he's going to bring to the middle class. our republican colleagues, if a

, there is no question that the cia -- the community of the cia was vehemently in support of hillary clinton's candidacy and with equal vehemence opposed to donald trump. the two leading members of the cia community, former cia director michael morel's of president obama, and former cia director and all hayden reserve under president bush, both inorsed hillary clinton, one "the washington post" and the other in "the new york times." they attacked dona trump with a viciousness that is very rare, claiming he essentially have been turned into, converted, and recruited into a tool of putin. aggressively in favor of hillary clinton's victory. there is a lot of different reasons for that, but i think the primary one is the cia proxy war in syria is something that hillary clinton have promised not just to support, but to escalate. she was critical of obama for restraining the cia's efforts to support these rebels and remove assad, waltrip said we have no business try to change the government of syria. we ought to let russia run free in syria, kill isis, kill whoever else they want to kill b

host: the cia. guest: yes. they had a source that he was at the site, and that is when george tenet went to the white house and when they decided, let's go now because they were moving earlier than planned. it turned out to be not true. host: what else did you ask him? what else did you personally want to know that maybe you were not asked to ask him? guest: i wanted to know more about his relationship with his family. i really wanted to know about his handling of internal security and the regime, and his handling of the shia, and his relationships with the sunni tribes. i also wanted to know more about him. one of the things i did when i first met him, when we first sat down the first day of the debriefing, i had a couple of books with me and i held them up and i said, "saddam, these are books written about you in english available in the west. in these titles there are truths, half-truths and lies, and it is your chance to tell us which are which." and he was more than willing to discuss -- he loved to talk a

host: the cia. guest: yes. they had a source that he was at the site, and that is when george tenet went to the white house and when they decided, let's go now because they were moving earlier than planned. it turned out to be not true. host: what else did you ask him? what else did you personally want to know that maybe you were not asked to ask him? guest: i wanted to know more about his relationship with his family. i really wanted to know about his handling of internal security and the regime, and his handling of the shia, and his relationships with the sunni tribes. i also wanted to know more about him. one of the things i did when i first met him, when we first sat down the first day of the debriefing, i had a couple of books with me and i held them p and i said, "saddam, these are books written about you in english available in the west. in these titles there are truths, half-truths and lies, and it is your chance to tell us which are which." and he was more than willing to discuss -- he loved to talk ab

the cia must continue to be at the forefront of this issue. as the president-elect has made clear, what of my top priorities if confirmed is to assist in the defeat of isis. we must maintain an aggressive counterterrorism posture and also addressed address manifesf this great threat beyond isis and al-qaeda. with respect to iran, we must be rigorously objective in assessing the progress made under the joint, hence a plan of action prayed while i opposed the iran deal as a member of congress, if confirmed my role will change. i will leave the agency to aggressively pursue collection operations and ensure analysts have the time, political space, and resources to make objective and sound judgments. similarly, if the policy decision with respect to how we will deal with russia, but it will be a unessential thing that the agencies provide accurate, timely, robust and clear intelligence and analysis of russian activities to the greatest extent feasible. as a member of the house intelligence committee, i fully appreciate the need for transparency and

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you have to ask why the cia briefs so many people? even though i am an admirer of the cia and critic of donald trump i can feel his pain and i think that we have to stop making this problem worse. we have to allow for a trust to emerge. that is off to an extremely bad start. >> even if you see both sides in this, bringing it into the public realm the way mr. trump has done it is only going to exacerbate the problem and now you have leaders worried about not only the stability of the next administration but the integrity of u.s. intelligence moving forward. how are you going to maintain credibility when the next president is tweeting that he thinks your agents are thugs? >> i'm a big critic of donald trump but in fairness what you said is not correct. he has not the person who went public with either of these bombshells. the bombshell about the hacking and disinformation was the obama administration given reports to capitol hill which came out through capitol hill offices to the media. this week it was not trump was saying allegations

and station chief in the field at the cia, has said that when "cia analysts look for deeper causes of rising instability in the world, one of the causes those cia analysts see is the impact of climate change." do you have any reason to doubt the assessment of these cia analysts? >> senator, i haven't had a chance to read those materials with respect to climate change. i do know the agency's role there. its role is to collect foreign intelligence, to understand threats to the world, that would certainly include threats from poor governance, regional instability, threats from all sources, and deliver that information to policymakers. and to the extent that changes in climactic activity are part of that foreign intelligence collection task, we will deliver that information to you all into the president. >> in the past you have questioned the scientific consensus on climate change. nevertheless, according to nasa, multiple studies published in peer-reviewed scientific journals show that 97% or more of actively published climate scientists agree that climate warning trends warming trends o

. >> the cia didn't have a cia director to be with him today when he visited because the democrats have chosen -- senate democrats are stalling the nomination of mike pompeo and playing politics with national security. >> what's your response, sir? >> that's ridiculous. number one, we have never had a cia director confirmed on the first day. number two, there are very capable people watching over the cia, and, in fact, i told vice president on wednesday, i said, look, we need to have some debate on pompeo and why don't you ask brennan to stay. he was willing to. they refused. and, third, and most important, pompeo is going to have huge, huge power, and there are issues that have been very vexing to the congress. the old debate between security and liberty, so to have a debate on him for a few days. the vote is going to be monday night is what should happen, and i would say to all of my republican colleagues that instead of spending their time on this issue, why don't they talk about how many people should up at his inauguration. he ought to talk about how many people he's going to bring

it would be nice if he had a cia director. he doesn't today because the democrats are holding up the cia director. >> i want to go back to a question you continue to deflect. why was it necessary to send out the press secretary to utter approvalable falsehoods that call into everything the press secretary will say from here on out. >> no, it doesn't. >> yes, it can. >> no, you want them to hear that. i think that is a very dangerous statement to make. >> what was the motive to have this ridiculous litigation of crowd size? what was the moment? >> your job is not to give your opinion, chuck. your job is not to say things are ridiculous. you are supposed to be a news person. >> can you please answer the question? why did he do this? you have not answered it. >> i'll answer it this way. think about what you just said to your viewers. that's why we feel compelled to go out and clear the air and put alternative facts out. >> so it is a political tactic to come up with alternative tack tix and set up the press as your enemy. >> i di

the cia does not do the options part. the cia does not do policy options. is they collect information about threats facing the united states. what we like to say is collect information on the plans, intentions and capabilities of our adversaries, whether they be al qaeda or whether they be vladimir putin. then, we take all of that information and put together an assessment for the president on how to think about threats, why it exists, how it might in -- how might evolve and what factors might advance it for the good and the bad. then, the policymakers take all that have been together policy. charlie: and that would in this case be the national security council? michael: the deputies of the national security council and the executives of the national security council. is there often disagreements among the agencies or is that a rare occurrence? there are often small differences of opinion. it is very rare there's a difference of opinion that matters to the president. that is the dni last job. -- dni's job. you need to know everyone in my community thinks th

everybody always likes to kick the cia because the cia doesn't kick back. and in the room people are clapping but it's important that this is an attempt to show the media and the rest of the world that there is no wedge between the president and the intelligence community. he went on to talk about how great mike pompeo was and was the most important pick and because this was a russian covert action campaign. it's because of the wedge whether real or received that it created against the president and the intelligence community and the american public. this was -- i'm glad he went there first to show his commitment to these people and i'm ready for mike pompeo to get approved so that he can start helming such a great organization. >> so you think the past is simply, quickly forgotten. the president comes who had clearly disparaged the brothers and sisters in your former community at the cia. he blamed it on the media. you should be smart enough to know what this is about. that would be good enough for the men and women in that room. >> i spent 9.5 years as an

the cia is a very different organization here, so we do not know who voted for him or who didn't vote for him. but again going forward here as we head into the first full week, a full action list here, the tone he struck today is one his aides hope he will continue to strike going forward here, the question is, will he? will he be able to do that? it's a question that everyone who grows in this job, will see if he continues that. but they are watching for that confirmation, they hope, of mike pompeo, and that might happen tomorrow in the senate. if it does not, you can just be sure that they will be crying foul over here at the white house, poppy. >> absolutely, just before i let you go, we did learn today from kellyanne conway some pretty important news regarding the preside president's tax returns? >> reporter: indeed, she said that the public does not care about these tax returns, that president trump won the election without releasing them and she said that he has no plans of releasing his tax returns. now we do believe that he is still under audit, that was always the reason he g

and all cia. nobody -- somebody was asking sean were they trump people? no cia people. that location was given to me. mike pence was given to me. mike pence paid homage to the wall. i went up and paid homage to the wall and spoke to the crowd. standing ovation. >> and would give the same speech. >> loved it. standing ovation for a long period of time. never even sat down during the speech. you and other networks covered it very inaccurately. i hate to say this to you and you probably won't put it on but turn on fox to see how it was covered and how people responded to the speech. that with as a good speech. you and couple of other networks tried to downplay that speech. >> dana seems like asking us not to believe what we saw and heard because we aired it live. also asking us to pander to a certain narrative, which journalists don't do. we put out what he said. we played it live and reaction is what it is. >> right. he's talking about the reaction in the room. and look, he might be right about that. this was a saturday, not a work day. it was lottery based audience. peop

[applause] >> you just are present donald trump at the cia headquarters. he basically said i'm 1000% behind the cia, people say i had a feud with the intelligence community, i don't have a feud with them. i wanted to demonstrate that by coming over here my first day. >> and he did it maybe 15 minutes longer than he needed to. >> vintage donald trump and i don't like it such a bad thing to go and see the community as a value the work you do. especially without he's been represented in the press. he could've done it differently. >> how important was it to demonstrate that? >> i think it's very important. because they were were at war with him and there were with him. >> i miss such as that we have the tweets. >> but there was some feuding going on. he was doubting intelligence and encouraging other people to doubt intelligence. the finally he talked about russia and the hacking of the election. i think this was a damage control here. he wanted wanted to show there on the same page going forward. was a smart thing to do. but this was not some imaginary feud.

his only source of information besides the news we have is the cia. so how does he have this relationship develop here? how does it work? >> and he can get angry at director brennan, but even when director pompeo comes in on friday, the very first day, it's the same intelligence professionals providing the same assessment, that russia tried to interfere with our election. his intelligence officials will be watching to see what al qaeda does, what china does, what isis does. >> if there's a troop movement somewhere, mobilization by the russians -- [ all speak at once ] >> perhaps the baltics, god hope that never happens because that's nato. >> what brennan told me in the interview yesterday, look, we need a president who knows this is credible, apolitical intelligence. what are our allies going to think if the president is openly questioning the integrity of the cia? you don't need the president going out, saying, i think what they're giving me is garbage. >> do you think it's possible trump doesn't know what objective truth is? >> i don't know. i can'

when john brennan puts on the record, when the president-elect criticized the cia, the cia director comes out to object. what happens if there is a tweet after the incoming individual, mike pompeo, going through confirmation hearings now, if he comes through, if the president-elect starts tweeting then. the work force will say, you going to get out and talk to him? the previous director did. the leadership of that organization, what we call the 7th floor, will walk in face to face to mr. pompeo and say we expect you to issue a statement. >> to be undermined by the people in the cia. not just -- not pompeo but the people who work there if he continues this. >> this is all about branding. let's be simple here. what he's setting himself up to do is -- the cia has a deep organization. five days in the president-elect after he becomes president with his new director will say mike pompeo transformed the place. that culture doesn't get changed. he'll say, look, the cia is new. >> i had john brennan on my podcast a week and a half ago. he said, if the president-elect as president continues this k

so he see as fissure just with the cia -- he got a standing ovation from all of the cia staff because i think they finally felt the personality of the man. i think that's all he's doing. he's not trashing the press. you guys are punching back and forth a little bit in finding a space. is it elegant all the time on either side and it's needless, right? we're all saying, look, let's get about making america united. >> let me pursue that subject then. i try and be an equal opportunity offender in the way in which i approach this. you just sat here and heard me say i think every one of those house democrats should have been there as americans like hillary clinton, they should have been there yesterday and accepting at least the process. my criticism of him yesterday is that speech, i thought for sure there would be a few paragraphs of inclusion along the lines of let me speak to the many who didn't support me, who supported a third party or secretary clinton, and that moment never came. i was shocked by that. >> look, he is one of the best listeners, honestly, that i've ever seen. he had

at the cia, he told the cia officers that, i never attacked you, the media just said that i'm having a feud with you. well, there are tweets, video of the statements trump made a week ago, likening the intelligence community to using the tactics he said of nazi germany. these are all out there for everyone to see. the crowd count today versus yesterday, it's there for everyone to see. and i think there are real consequences beyond just the impact on the press. the whole country is going to at some point need to be able to trust the credibility of not just the president but the white house press secretary when they walk into the room and tell the country that something bad has happened, that we're in a crisis, and if they lie this easily and brazenly, there are going to be a lot of people who don't believe what they say. that is a problem that goes beyond politics. >> jim warren, the pictures from your hometown, chicago, illinois, today, just from chicago, are stunning. if this rally, this protest movement that we saw today, as i said earlier in the broadcast, has the potential to exc

trump's visit to the cia headquarters today and why after he spoke at the cia, the last head of the cia put out a statement saying that the president should be ashamed of himself. >>> protest organizers in los angeles estimate that about a 750,000 people packed the streets of downtown l.a. to demonstrate solidarity with the women's march on washington. other estimates indicated the crowd was at least 500,000. officials told the "l.a. times" this is definitely the largest demonstration since an immigration march there that drew about half a million people in 2006. nbc news correspondent katie beck joins us live now from los angeles. what was the situation like there today? >> reporter: well, lawrence, it's almost hard to describe just how packed these streets were earlier today. our crew at one point was trying to move just a block down the road and got sandwiched in the gridlock. we literally could not move. there were so many people flooding the streets today, such intense energy and definitely a big response for los angeles. now pretty much all that's left is this memorial to the marc

>> the cia, i'm sure not. enough issues with the cia. he's got a battle. this is dissent. you've got dissent in the ranks inside the intelligence services, largely because the president-elect has taken them off in the midst of an ongoing investigation of whether and how much russia helped him win the election. that's an open question. will not assessed if it's helped but looking at russian influence on the election. one. and two, let's state this, part of cnn's reporting. we know that law enforcement and intelligence continues to look at ties between donald trump and russia. so you're going to have continuing investigations and why do i mention that now in the context of this? the dissent is from within the government, really, his own party and crucial agencies but at a time when he's going to have enormous power to that dissent conceivably and putting people in the positions. it seems to me you've got the party to party dissent, somewhat expected and then the internal dissent which is unresolved and going to continue. it's concrete and real. >> great points but that's a n

host: the cia. guest: yes. they had a source that he was at the site, and that is when george tenet went to the white house and when they decided, let's go now because they were moving had earlier than planned. it turned out to be not true. host: what else did you ask him? what else did you personally want to know that maybe you were not asked to ask him? guest: i wanted to know more about his relationship with his family. know aboutnted to his handling of internal regime, and his handling of the shia, and his relationships with the sunni tribes. i also wanted to know more about him. one of the things i did when i first met him, when we first set down the first day of the debriefing, i had a couple of books with me and i held them up and i said, saddam, these are books written about you in english available in the west. in these titles there are truths, half-truths and lies, and it is your chance to tell us which are which. and he was more than willing to discuss -- he loved to talk about himself. he was more t

i will also note it is a shame the cia did not have a cia director to be with him today because the democrats are stalling denomination of mike pompeo and playing politics with national security. —— the nomination. that is what you should be covering. instead of sowing division about tweets and false narratives. the president is committed to unifying the country and that was the focus of his inaugural address. this media narrative is making it more difficult. there has been a lot of talk in the media about responsibility to hold donald trump accountable. i am responsibility to hold donald trump accountable. iam here responsibility to hold donald trump accountable. i am here to tell you that goes both ways. we will hold you accountable. the american people deserve better. as long as he serves as the messenger of this incredible movement he will take his message directly to the american people were his focus will always be. -- where. that was the new white house press secretary sean spicer. perhaps unusually, mr spicer ended his news conference without taking any questions from any of the j

i went to the cia. i have great respect for the people of cia and intelligence. i don't have respect for one of leaders, but that's okay, but i have a lot of respect for the people in the cia. that speech was a home run. that speech, if you look at fox, okay? i'll mention. see what fox said. they said it was one of the great speeches. they showed the people applauding and screaming. they were all cia. somebody was asking sean were they trump people? they were cia people. that location was given to me. mike pence went up before me, i then went up and paid homage to the wall. i then spoke to the crowd. i got a standing owe vags. >> you would give the same speech if you went back? >> absolutely. people loved it. they gave me a standing occasion for a long period of time. there was love in the room. you and other networks covered it inaccurately. i hate to say this to you, and you probably won't turn it on, but turn on fox and see how people responded to the speech. that speech was a good speech, and you and a couple of other networks tried to down play that speech.

when we went to the cia, he said i love the cia, nobody loves the cia more than me. becoming a standard donald trump message when we goes perhaps into places where the words haven't been so kind. >> he's doing, mark, a lot of these photo opportunities on this first full working day at the white house. lets the tv pool, the tv reporters, the camera crews, come in, shoot a little bit. reporters will shout a question, he may answer, may not answer the question. we don't formnormally show all . to see the president meet not just with the republican house and senate leadership, but the democratic house and senate leadership, that's newsy. >> no doubt, it's certainly strategic on his part to send a message out across the nation he is trying to work with democrats and congressional republicans. you know, but at the same time, let's give this an hour when nancy pelosi and chuck schumer walk out of that meeting, you're not going to see testiness, of course, when you have the pool camera go in and take a quick picture. i guarantee you, nancy pelosi, chuck schumer will walk out

trump, is at the cia. he's actually, we're hearing now, being briefed by cia leadership, so we'll talk to our panel about what to listen for momentarily here on this saturday. you're watching cnn. ♪ (ee-e-e-oh-mum-oh-weh) (hush my darling...) (don't fear my darling...) (the lion sleeps tonight.) (hush my darling...) man snoring (don't fear my darling...) (the lion sleeps tonight.) woman snoring take the roar out of snore. yet another innovation only at a sleep number store. >>> all right. so we're going to pictures. here we have the crowd on their feet. this is the cia. we're waiting for donald trump, president trump to arrive. talk me through the significance of what's about to happen. >> look at the setting. those stars behind the the podium. there's 117 of them and those are stars for cia officers who have dyed in the line of duty. i can bet a lot of money that location is not accidental. you might guess in the light of what's been a very heated relationship since the election. public comments via twi