we're gonna find you, one way or the other." >> detective tony kemp also vowed to find her. he was convinced heather did not run off with her old boyfriend ed. so he asked her friends what else would cause heather to leave her husband and children? that's when kemp began to flush out what really happened when heather moved out on chris. >> it was very scary. and it only continued to deteriorate. >> friends and family told him how, at first, chris tried to woo her with flowers and chocolates, but those loving gestures soon turned ugly. >> he would text her and call her. but this time, they were just, like, violent, you know, "you're not taking my kids from me. "i'm not going to let you i'm not going to let you leave. you won't get away with this. i will come after you." >> then, friends said, chris started acting more desperate, and heather started getting really scared. >> he would show up at her work. he would show up at the gym. he started showing up at the house in the middle of the night. i just remember thinking, like, "this is insane. like, you're, literally, stalking

i wrote about jack kemp, you worked for jack kemp. his name is up there as you noted. if he were here today, still preaching the optimistic, happy, big tent brand of conservativism that he liked to talk about, what would he be pleased about? what would he be displeased p in terms of where we are right now? >> well, i remember we would have conservative meetings about fighting poverty and you could fit everybody around one table in jack kemp's office. seriously. it was like six people. so this is exciting just to see this effort. so i think he would be really excited. if jack were here, or if his son were on time -- sorry. we'll remind him. he would be excited that the -- in what i call the battle of ideas has really matured to the point where we have so many more people engaged in this fight. my mentor, in addition to jack kemp, is bob woodson. i met bob through jack in the early 1990s. you know, bob and i spent a lot of time over the years traveling the country. i just asked for a tutor. teach me, i want to learn. i have these principles and a good opinion on what the

detective kemp asked chris if heather might be suicidal. >> has she ever talked about wanting to harm herself or anybody else that you -- since you've known her? >> not that i recall. >> reporter: friends and family police spoke were to adamant that heather would not take her own life. not after striving so hard to transform it for the better. but there was another possible explanation for what might have happened to this woman who had built such a promising future. police were about to uncover a secret she'd kept hidden from almost everyone. >> i didn't even know his name. >> reporter: just as heather was headed off into that bright new future, her past came calling. >>> coming up -- >> i told all the girls, you all be prepared. >> the search heats up, and the secret is out. >> kind of a bombshell that heather was possibly seeing another man. >> this was definitely, you know, a person of interest that we needed to speak with. >> when "dateline extra" continues. (vo) maybe it was here, when you hit 300,000 miles. or here, when you walked away without a scratch. maybe it was all the ti

my mentor in addition to jack kemp is within. i met bob project back in the early night to nine days. bob and i spent a lot of time over the years traveling the country. i just asked for a tutor. teach me. i want to learn. i have this principle is an expert opinion on at they look like and how they work. i've lrned them from jack kemp. let's see how it works in reality. but i'm excited about is more and more people. i've been getting house republicans to do this. but i think is excited about his engagement and participation of so many people in the center right on this issue. but is instead about is the polarization of our politics. he's a happy warrior. we think of ourselves as happy warriors. the class of life is half full, not half-empty. you have rigorous debate on ideas, but it's done in an inclusive way that those polarizing and i think you'd be pretty upset about polarization of politics. >> you talk and i want to talk more about t agenda. an agenda reallymerged in this election and the election of donald trump pushethe co

is he taking after jack kemp? >> he has tried very hard to not get into the divisive -- jack kemp hired me -- i had a background as a democrat, but he didn't care about partisan labels, and he was a uniter, not a divider. i think paul has struggled. he has tried to go in that direction. i commend him. it hasn't been easy. kemp'swhat was jack biggest regrets in politics? >> probably when he ran for president, he didn't take it as seriously as -- the nuts and bolts. >> in 1988. yep. in 1988. you have to be a little strange to run for president. people who do that are different than other people. i don't think he had that -- he wanted to change policy. i don't think he was driven by the sense of, i need to fulfill my destiny. there were a lot of things he just didn't do, and there were a lot of compromises he took. he took positions with the right, frankly, in the primaries. he paid for that. i think he -- his fundamental move aheade can't and leave anyone behind, even though he believed in the message -- really some

my mentor, in addition to jack kemp, is bob woodson. i met bob through jack rack in the early 1990's. bob and i spent a lot of time over the years traveling the country. i just asked for a tutor. teach me. i want to learn. i have these principles and a good opinion on what they look like and how they work. i learned that from jack kemp. let's see how it works in reality. what i'm excited about is more and more and more people. i haven't getting house your public is to do this -- getting out and communities to do this. i think what jack would be excited about is the engagement and the participation of so many people in the senate right on this issue. when he would be really upset about is the polarization of our politics. he is a happy warrior. we think of ourselves as happy warriors. the gls life is half-full, er angels. of people. you have rigorous debates on ideas but it is done in an inclusive way. i think he'd be upset about the polarization of politics today. gerald: there was a related agenda that i think really emerged in this el

ever since his days working with the late jack kemp at a empower america, paul ryan has been sounding the alarm on our failing antipoverty system and offering bold ideas to empower americans to overcome the he spoke passionately aboutce. solving poverty while on the republican ticket in 2012. two years later he unveiled an innovative plan at the american enterprise institute to turn federal anti-poverty spending over to the states. and earlier this year, he did it again. releasing a proposal from a house task force to, to a symbol on poverty and opportunity and upward mobility. speaker ryan understands that our anti-poverty programs often do more to trap people in poverty than to lift them out of it. the, these are complex problems, that require thoughtful solutions. that means there is no easy route, there is no shortcut. while many in washington run from these problems, speaker ryan has run towards them. you can always count on him to be the guy who will think deeply and pay more attention to the difficult details. his anti-poverty proposals have broken new ground. and helped reinvi

frederick kemp, my fellow ute. frederick kemp has served since 2007 as president and chief executive of the atlantic council overseeing the expansion of its scope of work. he was an award-winning journalist at the "wall street journal," covered the collapse of communism in europe and served as editor of the "wall street journal" europe based in brussels. and senator tom cotton. he has served as a republican senator from arkansas since 2015. his committee assignments include the select committee on intelligence and the armed services committee. after graduating from harvard law school senator cotton left a legal career following the september 11th, 2001 attacks to serve as an army infantry officer including service in afghanistan and iraq. welcome to you all. our topic this morning is very simple. i have a very easy job because i have four very smart people here. and they have a lot to say. i have a feeling. and this is quite simple, and i'm going to start with you, admiral staveredes and go down the line. tell me t

would love to see jack kemp kind of approach in urban america. don't want to see militarization, but fact that president is talking about this could be a good thing. >> exactly. somebody who worked for jack kemp, he made a point of having those of us who worked for him go into the cities and talk to people and have better understanding of the problem. first thing to do is stop the carnage and as dr. dyson is saying, other things can be done. >> last word dr. barber. >> we need a moral revolution of values, have to deal with the divestment in these communities. had clergy who offered to meet with donald trump about these issues. got the letter but never responded. moral issues with voting, immigration, poverty. not any one party but dealing with these issues, serious audit of the country and fixing the problem, we need to do that. but can't have somebody deluded and dealing more in lies than the truth. >> thank you dr. barber, jeffrey lord, van jones and michael eric dyson "tears we cannot stop ". we'll be right back. >>> breaking news, president

i would love to see a jack kemp kind of approach. i don't want to see a military approach. the fact the president is talking about this could be a good thing. >> a good thing. exactly. as somebody who worked for jack kemp, when i worked for him, he had a point of making those of us who worked for him go into the cities and talk to people and have a better understanding of the problem. the first thing to do is stop the carnage, and then as dr. dyson is saying, there are other things that can be done. >> and i'll give you the last word, dr. barber. >> we need a real revolution of values. we have to deal with the dwesment in the communities. we had 10,000 clergy that offered to meet with president trump. he got the letter. they never responded. these are serious issues. voting, poverty, and it's not any one party dealing with the issues and fixing the problem. and we need to do that, but we can't have somebody dealing more in lies than the truth. >> thank you to you all. we'll have you back more to talk about the book dr. dyson. we'll be right back. sorry, just getting a quote

. >> i remember working in the bush 41 administration for jack kemp. and we got the letter that said thanks, be out by january 20th at noon. we held a party with secretary kemp the day before, we took the half day off, and that was it. but those were the political people. one of the problems here in this town that has been there increasingly is are the career folks. lots of them belong to union, political unions, they donate money, et set rashgs and the money goes heavily to democrats. i don't care. god bless their first amendment rights. what i'm suggesting is the culture in these bureaucracies is left leaning and so when you get a republican president like donald trump who comes in, not to mention somebody who's bp such an outsider, they're going to want to flush the system out and they should, one so they have career people in there who are representing their point of view, and two so that things get done here and they get fresh blood in there. that's -- >> you're saying get rid of career people who they think don't have their political view? becaus

over the years, conway has worked for candidates like jack kemp, dan quayle and newt gingrich. but none of them could prepare her for donald trump, who begins his administration as a controversial president, to say the least. >> the polling this week historically low compared to other presidents at this point. are you not concerned by a number that low as you begin this administration? >> what concerns me about those poll numbers is very simple. it's part of how we got there with him. the question for everyone who covers him and who thinks about him is, what is the line between thoughtful criticism and skepticism and, you know, flat-out denial and dehumanization of what just happened? >> do you think it's purely media coverage? >> i said i'm concerned about how the poll numbers got there. >> people responding to the polls did cite specific examples of things that trouble them about donald trump, for example, the fight with the intel community. a lot of people wondering why it appears, anyway, that his reflex is to defend vladimir putin and not the intelligence community. >> tha

of the james kemp foundation be and do that. i don't want to go to trump tower and meet with the next president of the united states. i think -- >> i hear you where. >> -- this is an important moment for us. >> this is what i think. i think that you have some missed opportunities on the trump side as well. when there's no real acknowledgment -- listen, it's not like, you know, a few days after the election donald trump came to jesus. it took him almost eight years, and then i think when the trump people then tell the democrats, you don't get eight weeks to digest this, you don't get eight months, when our guy took almost eight years to finally admit that president obama was born here and to stand by that statement. i just think it just seems like hypocrisy on all sides. i think that's why most people are getting very frustrated with the situation. >> you don't have to -- >> we have to leave it there. paris, very quickly, give you a final thought. i got to go. >> final thought is you may not like donald trump as a person, but you

and, kemp roth tax cut plan? i would say the kemp roth tax cut plan, be sherred in by ronald reagan. neil: that is the only stimulus left because the federal reserve will certainly be hiking interest rates. >> they can't really. neil: that is the only weapon in the arsenal. >> you do you think infrastructure spending works? and suppose, you this is where it gets icky for these guys, ese corpatio cutting these deals. suppose the corporate tax rates and tax cuts for individuals that generally are the reasons why jobs are staying here. that is what they're talk about, for the time-being, suppose that gets watered down because donald has a fetish for building that wall with mexico, an infrastructure spending, as we know from obama -- neil: if it is big you enough with infrastructure, trillion dollars. my gosh, their argument is some of that has to stick, right? >> it didn't stick for obama too well. you remember what they were saying -- neil: what was his stimulus in the beginning? a little over 800 billion? >> here

i got involved in the republican olitics in college and jack kemp spoke at my college in 1988 he first election i could vote in. i was taken by him and he is one of the heroes in my book i talk among others. moved much more conservative, which is fine if that is what you like. me, i just, i took my life different direction as journalist and author. history, council, ran for office as a younger woman for congress, first black nominated in my state. so, you know, i think i might un for office at some point, that is still on the table. we'll see, i just don't know. >> sophia nelson, author of "e pluribus one." thank you for your time. thank you for having me. we'll continue our conversation with sheryll cashin of university as we continue on martin luther king day. the , a federal holiday in washington, d.c. area. people taking the chance and visitors, as well, to visit the mlk memorial located in statue on, a large commemorating the man. quotes, as you can see there, around the capitol structure itself. "washington journal" will continue. >> if you guys are coming to the program, please

frederick kemp, my fellow ute. frederick kemp has served since 2007 as president and chief executive of the atlantic council overseeing the expansion of its scope of work. he was an award-winning journalist at "the wall street journal," covered the collapse of communism in europe and served as editor of "the wall street journal" europe, based in brussels. and senator tom cotton. he has served as a republican senator from arkansas since 2015. his committee assignments include the select committee on intelligence and the armed services committee. after graduating from harvard law school, senator cotton left a legal career following the september 11th, 2001, attacks to serve as an army infantry officer including service in afghanistan and iraq. welcome to you all. our topic this morning is very simple. i have a very easy job because i have four very smart people here. and they have a lot to say. i have a feeling. and this is quite simple, and i'm going to start with you, admiral staveredes and go down the line. tell m

greetings to you all, i'm fred kemp, president and ceo of the atlantic council. it's great to see such a full house. we realize after this very quiet and unmomentous weekend that there isn't much to worry about in the world. seriously speaking, we see this as an inflection point in history as important as the end of world war i and world war ii. and what the atlantic council stands for working constructively alongside friends and allies to ensure constructive u.s. engagement in the world remains as relevant as ever. we're delighted to be partnering again with bill lores and the iran project for our third major prevent. bill, on the iran nuclear deal. and we worked a lot even before that in get willing in the first place. we at the atlantic council have been doing concentrated work on iran since 2010 when we inaugurated an iran task force. i want to salute barbara slaven who has been at the tipping point of the sphere of getting all of that done. i also want to salute stew eisenstaedt an executive member of the committee of the board with the council and chuck hag

they say the t-shirt sales and grant from the late congressman jack kemp. they seems to be having a good time. michelle: hits so 5 out of new boston, texas, is banning madonna from the airwaves because of comments the singer made at the women's march in d.c. over the weekend. the radio station says madonna shown un-american sentiments. waun of the controversial comments was talking about blowing up the white house. "7 on your side" with consumer alert today. the big business of bourbon tourism. the kentucky distillers association says more than a million people visited the kentucky bourbon trail last year. a 300% boost in the past decade. now one reason for the increase, kentucky now allows distilleries chance to obtain the licenses for by sales. q: "1984" is back and the publisher is ordering 75,000 new prints. the renewed interest in the november may be attributed to the trump administration use of the term "alternative facts." kellyanne conway using the phrase over the weekend. or well's "1984" fiction crinkles -- chronicles that controls minds through m

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dormitory-style housing unit who he feels he can trust. 38-year-old jason pearsol, and 36-year-old matthew kemp. >> i think he's looking for a father figure and he's hanging with us. no, i'm just joking. >> but, no, it's -- i vibe with them well. they are good people. we look out for each other, and especially me being probably one of the youngest people in the compound, they look out for me. >> when you see somebody who is 21 in here, what goes through your mind? >> what the hell are they doing? what are they doing in here? i wouldn't want to see one of my kids in here. i've got an 18-year-old daughter. so think about stuff like that. >> why are you here now? >> another assault charge. >> how many times have you been to prison? >> twice. >> and both times on assault? >> yes. >> i have been in prison since 18. >> so you know what he's going through. >> well, it was so long ago for me, i really don't remember. but i remember being in prison. >> and i've come to learn that the older people you hang out with, the better because you don't want to play any games in here. this is a man's world, it's

kemps durant had 28 points, steph curry up. up 20. the warriors have now play $124 regular season games in a row without having back-to-back losses. the warriors host miami tomorrow night. >>> a giant sequoia tree in the big tree state park toppled over during the weekend storm. it was called the pioneer cabin try and stood for centuries, with a tunnel cut into its base for tourists to go through. they posted before and after photos, as you see here, on twitter. >>> hundreds of home in connection nevada were flooded in truckee area. a mudslide covered the westbound lanes of interstate 80 between donner summit and donner lake in the lake tahoe area, but both directions were opened just several hours ago. >> a popular diner was forced to jacket in novato because of major flooding caused by the storm. we have the details. >> reporter: lefty's grill in novato city, california. the fire department has given a 20-minute warning here. 20 minutes to save what can be saved before they shut down power to evacuate the floor. >> 20 minutes. okay.

dormitory-style housing unit who he feels he can trust, 38-year-old jason piersol and 36-year-old matthew kemp. >> i think he's looking for a father figure and he's hanging with us. no, i'm just joking. >> everybody needs a war daddy. >> scared. but no, i vibe with them well. they're good people. these are good guys right here. we look out for each other. especially me being one of the youngest people in the compound, they look out for me. >> when you see somebody who is 21 in here, what goes through your mind? >> what the hell are they doing? what are they doing in here? wouldn't want to see one of my kids in here. i've got an 18-year-old daughter, so i think about stuff like that. >> why are you here now? >> another assault charge. >> how many times have you been to prison? >> twice. >> and both times on assault? >> yes. >> i've been in prison since 18. >> so you know what he's going through. >> well, it was so long ago for me, i really don't remember. but i remember being in prison. >> i've come to learn that the older people you hang out with, the better, because you don't want to play any

kemp field 82. boulder creek .79. over a half inch of rain. tenth of an inch. there is a ton of snow up in the sierra. it's still very low on 50 and 80 and finally looks like some of that has turned more to rain in redding. shasta coming down in feet up there as well. there is no change in that pattern for sure. does look a little warmer form. maybe not as much snow. parts of -- this goes there tuesday into thursday. looks like we are on the back side of this precipitation. contra costa. you can see a little bit of a back edge. also in the santa cruz mountains this he are getting the most so far. there are a few breaks starting to show up. we have a long way to go here. 40s on the temperatures. even east bay temperatures as cleo as i have seen them. only in a three degree spread. brentwood 44. blackhawk 45. dublin in with san ramone. it'll turn up tonight. that's the cold low. it's funneling in this moisture. look at this system starting to enhance all this moisture. that will pick up the rain. there is so much going on. this low isn't going away for a couple d

kemp field. we are just talking about santa rosa or sacramento. watch how saturday is not bad. that's the plume. one winter storm watch. snow levels going all over the place. very low and way up and way back down. rain is on the way for the weekend. heaviest will be on sunday. >> we will watch for flooding and mudslides. we will watch that. thank you. >>> is in hot water because of atwitter. up next the offensive typo they are apologizing for. . >>> ♪ [ music ] . >> nice. . >> the original version by simon and garfunkle. >> you remember that singles version. >> yes. this was the original. requested which cindy. thank you very much. traffic jam. the theme is cold. there is a special song you want to hear let us know. ly play it every friday morning. use the hash tag. >> all right. thank you. >>> the east coast, severe winter. getting worse. >> dry -- >> buffalo new york. the snow and bad road conditions caused major back ups in the buffalo area. driver was stuck in the snow and the the ice for several hours, are you right sal. here is a good news about several students and two

over the years, conway has worked for candidates like jack kemp, dan quayle and newt gingrich. but none of them could prepare her for donald trump, who begins his administration as a controversial president, to say the least. >> the polling this week historically low compared to other presidents at this point. are you not concerned by a number that low as you begin this administration? >> what concerns me about those poll numbers is very simple. it's part of how we got there with him. the question for everyone who covers him and who thinks about him is, what is the line between thoughtful criticism and skepticism and, you know, flat-out denial and dehumanization of what just happened? >> do you think it's purely media coverage? >> i said i'm concerned about how the poll numbers got there. polls did cite specific examples of things that trouble them about donald trump, for example, the fight with the intel community. a lot of people wondering why it appears, anyway, that his reflex is to defend vladimir putin and not the intelligence community. >> that's completely unfair. he ha

this would be paul kemp, jenna uhl, robert uhl, what messages would you say to people who are gun owners who try to intimidate people. they know better than i do how to reach those people. so really what that comes around to is changing the cultural expectations of what gun owners would demand of other gun owners. we also need to really look at how are we going to tackle the issue we have in oregon because oregon, we have four million people in oregon, half of them live in the portland metro area. we have great sheriffs, great law enforcement but we also have sheriffs, like sheriff hanlon who is investigating the community college shooting which happened over 14 months ago now. he said, he's like sandy hook, i'm not sure if that really happened or not. really? it just happened at your school in your backyard. you think mass shootings happen now? by the way, i know people who live there. sheriff hanlon never went to the crime scene that day. never went. know where that report is? we don't either. he hasn't done the report yet. over 14 months he hasn't finished that report. another thing,

. >> i remember working in the bush 41 administration for jack kemp. we got the letter who said be out by january 20th at noon. we held a party the day before and we took the half day out and that was it. those were the political people. one of the problems here in this town that has been there increasingly are the career folks. a lot of them belong to unions and they donate money, etc. the money goes heavily to democrats. i don't care. god bless their first amendment rights. the culture in these bureaucracies is left leaning. when you get a republican president like donald trump not to mention somebody who has been such an outsider, they are going to want to flush the system out and they should. one so they have career people in there who are representing their point of view and two, so that things get done here and get flesh flood in there. >> you are saying get rid of career people who they think don't have the political views? i don't think that's even legal. career people have protected positions. they have been there for their entire lives. >> th

kemp field over two. n apa over an inch. san rafael almost an inch. lexington reservoir over an inch. two thirds of an in. other locations checking in. especially up north. heels bugger almost two. middle town one and three quarters. bennett valley santa rosa inch and three quarters. saint helena and then the oakland hills also an inch of rain. flash flood warning is out for the napa river. saint helena and near n apa. that will take us through tonight. the burn areas. i know there is grass there but there is not ch of a root structure. those areas need to be watched today into tonight. wind advisories out. coast and bay. gust 45. maybe around the bay but in the higher elevations there is a high wind warning out. an hour tonight and tomorrow. the big news in the sierra. by blizzard warning. yes. takes us until noon on wednesday. feet, four to eight eight of snow. five thousand foot level down to 4,000 feet the by tonight. it's what we say is no joke. total white house conditions. it's hammering up there as coop said up in kirkwood and i believe it. we

this would be paul kemp, jenna uhl, robert uhl, what messages would you say to people who are gun owners who try to intimidate people. they know better than i do how to reach those people. so really what that comes around to is changing the cultural expectations of what gun owners would demand of other gun owners. we also need to really look at how are we going to tackle the issue we have in oregon because oregon, we have four million people in oregon, half of them live in the portland metro area. we have great sheriffs, great law enforcement but we also have sheriffs, like sheriff hanlon who is investigating the umpqua community college shooting which happened over 14 months ago now. he said, he's like sandy hook, i'm not sure if that really happened or not. really? it just happened at your school in your backyard. you think mass shootings happen now? by the way, i know people who live there. sheriff hanlon never went to the crime scene that day. never went. know where that report is? we don't either. he hasn't done the report yet. over 14 months he hasn't finished that report. another

he's a jack kemp republican. i don't know what's going to happen on any other issue, but when it came down to this immigration issue, his words gave me so much comfort that the speaker of the house is not going to allow the rug to be pulled from under the feet of all of these young people, 750,000 of them, who have sought this protection, who have applied for this law, who are now playing by the rules, who are working and living and studying, legally, contributing to this country. and i see that paul ryan understands that. i know his wife. his wife from oklahoma. these folks are family people at the core, and i believe paul ryan on this one, and i intend to hold his feet to the fire. >> yeah. so, you feel comforted. you have, you know, speaker ryan on immigration and just broadening out we've been hearing these cabinet nominees on iran and russia and the border wall and their words stand in such stark contrast to the rhetoric we heard from trump on the trail and if you think about it, if you have trump and steve

abigail kemp getting leniency for cooperating with police. >>> you know the question we're asking this morning, who just doesn't love a life-sized wax president. who doesn't want one in their living room. you guys, would you like one because -- >> a little creepy. >> -- the hall of presidents and first ladies museum in gettysburg is auctioning off all its assets including wax versions of all 44 presidents. the mew team closed last november, sadly, due to low turnout but the first gavel falls at 10:00 a.m. if any of you are interested in having any of the presidents in your living room. >> we could pool our resources maybe. >> get like a woodrow wilson for the -- >> next time you're out -- >> who wow want? >> -- we'll have a wax figure in your place? >> lincoln. >> this conversation, we've exhausted the utility of it, thank you very much, everybody. >> it's melting wax. >>> first we'll talk about the men they are calling heroes for swooping in to save a police officer in distress. >> one used his own gun to kill the suspect who was tussling with the wounded officer following what author

used to work for jack kemp. the president talked about it at his inaugural address. >> i'd love to do that. that would be great. go, pack, go. >> go, pack, go. >>> president trump vowed to start building that border wall. we'll get a live report from the southern border. introducing new depend real fit briefs. now more breathable than ever. in situations like this, there's no time for distractions. it's not enough to think i'm ready. i need to know i'm ready. no matter what lies ahead. get a free sample at depend.com >>> the secretary of homeland security working with myself and my staff will begin immediate construction of a border wall. our order also does the following. ends the policy of catch and release at the border. requires other countries to take back their criminals. they will take them back. cracks down on sanctuary cities. empowers i.c.e. officers to target and remove those who pose a threat to public safety. goals for the hiring of another 5,000 border patrol officers. calls for the tripling, the n

i was one of the initial authors with jack kemp and a few others but i also did not believe in a free lunch. i believe we had to match it with huge domestic spending cuts, reform of entitlements and balancing the budget within a reasonable period of time. none of that happened. the defense build-up got totally out of control. the tax cut was 6% of gdp, far beyond anything we could afford. neil: revenues came in whole hog during the 1980s. let me switch to one thing you may agree with donald trump on, and that is when it is talking about the way the taxpayer money is spent. sean spicer was talking to that point earlier. let me play a clip of him and see what you think about it. play the clip. >> there is frankly lack of respect for taxpayer dollars in this town for a long time and what the president is showing through the hiring freeze, first and foremost today, we have to respect the american taxpayer. they're sending us a ton of money. working real hard. some people working two, three jobs to by. to see money wasted in washington on a job that is duplicative is insulting the hard wor

abigail kemp getting leniency for cooperating with police. >>> and you know the question we're asking this morning, who just doesn't love a life-sized wax president. who doesn't want one in their living room. you guys, would you like one because -- >> a little creepy. >> -- the hall of presidents and first ladies museum in gettysburg is auctioning off all its assets including wax versions of all 44 presidents. the museum closed last november, sadly, due to low turnout but the first gavel falls at 10:00 a.m. if any of you are interested in having any of the presidents in your living room. >> we could pool our resources maybe. >> get like a woodrow wilson for the -- >> next time you're out -- >> who would you want? >> -- we'll have a wax figure in your place? >> woodrow, is that your pick? >> lyndon. he's the biggest one, right? >> more for your money. >> grover cleveland. >> this conversation, we've exhausted the utility of it, thank you very much, everybody. >> it's melting wax. >>> first we'll talk about the men they are calling heroes for swooping in to save a police officer in dist

kemp is reasonable they put in a proposal for what we want to install personally i wouldn't want that apparatus close to any living room and no one else would either. >> do you care to state your name for the record. >> no. >> any point comment okay commissioners, the matter is submitted. >> commissioners this item has been in front of us 4 times we need to put it to rest. >> the regulations are quite specific our ability to modify those are limited i found no basis to accept the appeal and it is denied. >> i'll concur. >> so do you have a motion. >> move to deny the appeal on the basis the permit was properly issued. >> thank you. we have a motion from commissioner lazarus to deny the appeal and uphold the appeal that is properly issued commissioner fung commissioner honda - commissioner wilson and commissioner swig that motion carries with a vote of 4 to zero thank you. >> next item. >> is item appeal at san bruno avenue on the appeal for the massage establishment attraction, llc on for hearing and start with the appellant. >> who has 7 minutes to present. >> good evening my name is

that's an important concept as some of you may remember when jack kemp was the secretary of hud, he started an intergovernmental -- governmental interagency program against homelessness. it really was quite effect giving very important. what i would be thinking about, if we are going to develop the whole person is not just putting a roof over their head, but making sure that they have access to a next-line education and their children. that means working with the department of education. it means working with the department of labor in terms of helping to train people not just to be people who stand out on the corner and hold the sign and basic neighbors, but apprenticeship programs because, you know, there's a lot of shuttle ready jobs but not so many people to handle the shuttle. we need some networkers than welders and brick workers and a number of people and those skills have been vanishing from our society. this is an excellent opportunity to bring them back. not only does it give the person and immediate job, but it provides them with a mechanism to climb the ladders of opportunity in

maybe grover, who is expert attacks policy and tax history i believe it was called under reagan the kemp-roth tax cuts i believe they came into play in 1982. the legislative scenario was different than we have you no. now we have republicans controlling all chambers. back then you had, i believe republicans controlled the senate. neil: needed southern democrats, bo weevils. >> tip o'neill, democrats, he was thousand speaker, controlled the house. reagan was the president. it took two years to get through that. this is different, they have everything, for one they have everything in one. all one party rule. here is the -- neil: but, trent lott, i believe those tax cuts were ultimately retroactive to the middle of '81, weren't they? is he gone? significant achievement. and of course in '86 too. let me emphasize, the senate and house will move forward on their commitments. i talked to one of the senate leaders, we'll meet weekends and meet at nights. we'll get regulations repealed. we'll repeal obamacare and replace it and move to tax cuts. they will not delay it very long. neil: guys, i do want

forward is to see how these people who have been very ideaological, raised in the era of reagan an kemp, the ryan agenda that januaryal speaks of are d-- janal speaks of are automobile to work with trump ehen they agree and bounce against him when they disagree. that is something not tested yet. the way it works out, the way they are able to deal with him will be a real test for american conservatives during the course of this speech as he was talking, a friend of mine who is a long history of conservative and republican policy work, texted me saying i feel like i have to go into exile now. i think there are a lot of seople in the conservative policy world who probably feel that way today. >> you know, president obama, former president obama when he was a at joint base andrews gave sort of a rebuttal speech to the inaugural address. sewas struck by the con trases. donald trump described what he called american carnage over these last many years and former president obama described all these amazing things that have happened. janal? >> you know, i was struck by the american carnage line.

there were two years with senator bradley working together with kempe and others to bring it forward. it took really three years from beginning to end for that bill. i think you're going to see tax legislation this year, but you got to go through a budget reconciliation process first. then you got to go ahead and lay out the specifics of the plan. there's some things here, joe, like the border adjustability, like complete deductibility immediately expensing for all plan equipment and denial of interest deduction that haven't been tried anywhere else in the world. those are things you've really got to look at and figure out, you know, i know brian moynahan is coming on. how are financial services going to be taxed? they got to work through that. >> so you're saying that even if it's not something that happens in the first three or four months, you think it still happens this year. that doesn't bring down the likelihood of it actually eventually getting passed. >> absolutely. i think it's going to happen this year. they got the first budget e reconciliation dealing with health care. the

here's nbc's jolene kemp. >> reporter: from robot bartenders, to 3d printed party favors, to charging stations for guests, tech is taking over weddings. >> about a third of couples is using wedding technology in their big day. and i think we'll see that number increase. >> reporter: this is one of those couples. >> we met 15 -- >> 16. >> -- years ago. 2001. we were actually both in a math camp together. >> reporter: they met the old-fashioned way. but their wedding will be anything but. >> maybe on the main page we should put our wedding hash tag there? >> i think that's right. >> reporter: the boston couple are throwing a tech-fueled wedding on a form in south carolina. >> we've gone paperless with everything. we didn't do invitations with any kind of paper. our gifts are all through -- done digitally. >> reporter: in fact, 98% of all couples use their mobile phones while planning to the wedding, according to the knot. 16% of couples use mobile tools like online rsvps. >> these days, we don't need everyone's addresses. we need the e-mail addresses and the phone number. >> reporter: n