in many ways our work picks up where he left off. >> host: paul kane of "the washington post." what was the end of result of that "gang of eight" legislation? >> guest: had a great result in the senate, got8 or 69 votes. a third of the republican congress supported it. every democrat supported it. it seemed to have real momentum. across the capitol among the house republicans there was a completely different political dynamic at work. they were not looking at national exit polling for mitt romney thinking we have to get right with hispanic voters, they were looking at their own primaries. they were scared to death getting primaried on the right. that bill, that is when chuck schumer and paul ryan first started working together, behind the scenes, schumer would go to ryan, even though he wasn't speaker yet, he knew how much respect people had for ryian. they kept getting, thinking they were getting close to having a house bill. then something bad would happen. it would get a little bit close, something bad would happen. then eric cantor lost his primary in june 2014, to a far ri