>> guest: i am a senior adviser to the house majority leader, ken mccarthy, which is a fancy way of saying i help 'em him with communication and trying to modernize the federal government. >> host: and what's your background for that position? >> guest: so my career has been at the cross-section of the sort of tech and the private sector, capitol hill but particularly in leadership, or leadership offices and in the political space. so i like to say there's this venn diagram of winning campaigns, trying to, you know, improve government and getting some tech jobs every now and again. that's how i landed where i'm at. >> host: so what's your training? >> guest: well, i was -- i trained in computer science, kind of old school coding. i was actually -- i don't want to be too in the weeds, but i was pretty good at action script which is a totally defunct language now. [laughter] and also in doing kind of communications marketing. so i've always been pulled between those two worlds. >> host: before we get into why you're here at the state of the net conference, how important today is tech to a ca