we take our viewers across the potomac river to arlington, virginia and joined boy jonathan swan who is a national political reporter there. want to jump in and start with your story on democrats plan to exploit the comey controversy? you made it out yesterday in sort of a four step plan. take us through what democrats are thinking right now. >> what they are thinking is they have told trump in a particularly vulnerable sich wagdz and chuck schumer want to use this -- situation -- as a leverage point to use this to make the changes for the russia probe. they want a special prosecutor to oversee the possible collusion with the russian government and trump campaign. quite likely there is a fascinating interview last week that didn't get a whole lot of attention and should have got much more attention. benjamin who runs a great book was saying it wasn't based on any conversations he had with jim comey since he was fired but just knowing him so well, he expects at the time and place of his choosing probably in a congressional setting will get a full account of his side of the story and h

joining us from capitol hill, jonathan swan. of all the people in the white house, why is jared kushner facing this scrutiny, you think? >> it's surprising. during the campaign, particularly after he became the nominee, foreign leaders started reaching out to donald trump, diplomats, foreign business people. he basically passed them on to jared. it was a very thread-bare campaign at that point. there was no one running foreign policy. jared just started meeting with these people. so, it doesn't surprise me that he is under scrutiny as part of this. we just don't know anything about the content of those meetin meetings, what was said, what, if anything, inappropriate was done. >> taking a look at the broader investigation here, the senate intelligence committee voting to give the chairman and vice chairman broad subpoena power yesterday, what does this mean for the investigation going forward? is it going to speed things up here? >> well, yeah, it's pretty marginal, to be honest. it will allow them to operate a little bit more --

jonathan swan is joining us next. but i want to thank jim vand high for his time and invite us in. >> kelly, ash fork, line for republicans. what is on your mind? >> i saw watching yesterday, steven the host, i believe, watching the new website. my only concern that made me skeptical is it is connected to politico so how can we trust the left leaning libtards? >> two of the principle founders of politico are now co-founders of axius. mike allen is joining at 9:30 to continue the discussion. robert in georgia, live for democrats. have you checked it out? >> no, this is the first i have heard of him so i will keep my eye open for them. maybe you can sum up with the next question. i don't buy newspapers and watch and pay an absorbrant rate for the tv channels. i don't particular like the content i have to chose from on television and i wish i could narrow it down. i would be interested to know if this would be able to give a consumer a news story that went something like this. here is the information on where you can get

jonathan swan, the viewers are calling in. you mentioned lindsey graham on meet the press yesterday. we wanted to get your take on some of his comments. jonathan: i'll think president trump is the target or subject of any collusion with the russians. that is what i believe but this tweet has to be answered. i would advise the president not to tweet or comment about the investigation as we go forward. interferens didn't with our election. the president needs to back off and let the investigation go over. we need to call comey and get to the bottom of all of this. >> jonathan swan on the president's role and particularly his communication strategy and the last six or seven days. >> lindsey graham is reflecting views of a pretty substantial number of republican senators. they are fed up with hearing that the president equivocates about whether the russians interfered with the election about whether that is an indisputable fact that is agreed upon by every part of the intelligence community. lindsey graham is sending a signal to t

for jonathan's swan's sneak peeks. they were bout how going to keep momentum going in problem.of the comey so explaining both sides, what they are thinking, helping them,y nderstand agree they may disagree, people will have their opinions, we be place to come and you know you will get the straight straight. host: allowing someone to go on a quote d writing without a name attached to it. is that hard for somebody to do journalist?a guest: what is important is to be sure that you're getting that is that nd they're saying something that reader better understand what is go og or takes the reader behind the way you can't get otherwise. oo often, reporters resort to that, better ways to express that information or other ways information. some things that people are talking on the record, they are talking point to you or less likely to be candid. circumstance you may want to do it, reporters should have higher bar for that. you have seen the organizations explanationncluding of why someone is background or why isn't isn't nam

for jonathan's swan's sneak peeks. they were bout how going to keep momentum going in problem.of the comey so explaining both sides, what they are thinking, helping them, they stand agree they may disagree, people will have their opinions, we be place to come and you know you will get the straight straight. host: allowing someone to go on a quote d writing without a name attached to it. is that hard for somebody to do journalist?a guest: what is important is to be sure that you're getting that is that nd they're saying something that reader better understand what is go og or takes the reader behind the way you can't get otherwise. oo often, reporters resort to that, better ways to express that information or other ways information. some things that people are talking on the record, they are talking point to you or less likely to be candid. circumstance you may want to do it, reporters should have higher bar for that. you have seen the organizations explanationncluding of why someone is background or why isn't isn't nam

jonathan swan. good morning to you. it's going to be a big week for the president, not just on his trip abroad but domestically. i understand the budget proposal expecked to be unveiled this week. what have you been hearing? >> the really big thing that we reported yesterday evening is that donald trump is going to make very substantial cuts, not only on what's called the nondiscretionary side which we already know about which is things like the epa and the state department but the side which is entitlements, things like food stamps, so disability insurance. the children's health insurance program, medicaid. there's going to be really steep cuts, i'm told by a source with direct knowledge the cuts will add up to $1.7 trillion over the next 10 year years. >> we're going to ask for you tastick with us for a moment as we look at pictures in air force one landing in tel aviv, israel. we saw video of the army corp as they prepare. making a touch on a historic flight. we say historic because assand are am

., national political reporter for axios, jonathan swan. good morning to you. president trump issued a statement about kushner sunday night. it reads, jared it doing a great job for the country. i have total confidence in him. he is respected by virtually everyone and is working on programs that will save our country bls of dollars. in addition to that, he is a very good person. question to you, does jared kushner have the loyalty of everyone else in the white house or just the man that matters the most? >> not even close. he's got donald trump's loyalty, his son-in-law, but jared kushner has made a lot of enemies in the white house. there's a number of people in there who resent the position he's in. they privately call him prince jared. i know that directly. i can tell you there's been a number of people in the white house have been waiting for this moment of weakness to pile on jared kushner. you've seen that in the last 72 hours with this flood of news stories, with anonymous people saying things about jared that have are not very flattering, saying they've

joining us, jonathan swan. take us inside the firing yesterday, the white house saying it was in the works for a couple weeks. >> james comey did a number of things that displeased donald trump. for anyone that knows donald trump, it is not that hard to imagine what they are. he contradicted donald trump publicly, which is the worst thing he can possibly do. he did that over the claims that obama wire tapped donald trump. he then also refused to help the white house push back against media stories related to the fbi, russia probe. he said during testimony last week which was televised, we know how much television donald trump watches, he was mildly nauseous that his comments in the campaign may have influenced the outcome of the election. if you want to enrage donald trump, what you do is suggest that some other factor apart from donald trump's brilliance, charisma, and genius won the election, so it's not hard to imagine how he enraged donald trump. what i will say is that this was classic trump in the way he

axios, jonathan swan. good to talk to you. all hands on deck for the democrats. what can we expect from them in the coming days. >>> they're going to make the it shall of appointing a special prosecutor nonnegotiatable i assume. their strategy outlined bid a senior democratic senate aide yesterday is to make this the key test for republicans. remember, they're actually going to make this a condition of voting on the new fbi director. and one argument is okay that's fine. rchls c s republicans can ram it through as a partisan vote. you saw it in footage earlier, lindsey graham, really concerned about this and what answer. the democratic strategy is to pressure waivers republicans and make this a key issue. i think down further down the track. you can expect to see chuck schumer play hard ball with all of this and potentially obstruct the legislative agenda to try of the demand the russia probe. >> staying on the idea of james comey saying no, no closed congressional hearing, i want to be in public. i want people to hear me. you make a note in your note on sunday.

regardless what's the reaction, jonathan swan, to these problems? >> well, it shows his ignorance of the legislative process, both of those as you point out, both of those pieces of legislation are already governed under likely 51 votes because they're part of the budget bills. what's happening on the hill with these two items, there's a lot of skepticism among senate leadership that health care can be don what i expect to happen based on my conversations with people in the senate and in the white house, is that there probably will be a vote before the august recess. if you were going to bet on it you would say there will be a vote. that might bring it to an early conclusion. they all want to move on to tax reform. that's what they want to do. if health care can't be done, they want to find that out sooner rather than later so this doesn't drag on and kill their whole agenda. >> jonathan, charlie and stephanie ruhle, one of the hardest working people at msnbc, good to have you. thank you so much. >>> there is this new police report giving some start

jonathan swan with axios, latest on the health care fight on capitol hill. jonathan, thanks for that. we're going to take a quick break. >>> up next, a look at the newly unveiled plans of what president obama is going to be doing in his post-presidency. obama presidential center is going to be built on chicago's south side. why the former first couple specifically chose the city's troubled area and the big plans for the future. e said the future freaks her out. how come no one likes me, jim? intel does! just think of everything intel's doing right now with artificial intelligence. and pretty soon ai is going to help executives like her see trends to stay ahead of her competition. no more sleepless nights. - we're going to be friends! - i'm sorry about this. don't be embarrassed of me, jim. i'm getting excited about this! we know the future. we're going to be friends! because we're building it. i just want to find a used car start at the new carfax.com show me used trucks with one owner. pretty cool. [laughs] ah... ahem... show me the carfax. start your used

jonathan swan, national political reporter at axios and jake sherman, politico senior writer. good to have all of you on as thursday afternoon. jake the story everyone of course in the political world continues to talk about the allegeassault of ben jacobs "the guardian" reporter by publican congressional candidate greg gianforte on the eve of today's special election there in montana. what's your take? is this going to have any measurable impact on the vote in mon tan in. >> as glen's colleague noted in today's "new york times" 37% of the vote was in before today. people have voted and made their determination in a very red state one way or the other. now i mean, listen it's impossible to know whether this will impact things. i can tell you in the capitol paul ryan just spoke about this and said, it's unfortunate, it's not appropriate behavior, but the people of montana have to decide. i asked him after that if he would accept gianforte into the house republican conference and he said it's up to the people of montana to decide. so republican leadership, they're distancing the

before i let him in, we're figog to be joined by jonathan swan from axios. he writes "republican leaders are coming to the bleak conclusion that the summer will end and begin the fall, end the summer and begin the fall with no major policy accomplishments. privately, they realize it's political malpractice to blow at least the first nine months of an all-republican rule but also they realize there's little they can do to avoid the dismal failure." governor, what excuse is in getting nothing done in, you know, jonathan's reporting, fall, winter, spring and summer? >> governing is hard, and, you know -- >> you govern. you govern in a tough battleground state. >> yeah, i did, but i did it by trying to, you know, bring people together and i didn't have a lot of promises that i didn't think i could keep. so when they say we're going to just get rid of obamacare, right, they find out it's not very easieasy. >> what role did you play? i think you went into the white house when sort of the republican repeal 1.0 was being discussed. what role did you play with the pr

jonathan swan. thanks for joining us. saw discore in the republican's message. do you think that means a rocky start to all of this. >> the package you played even before this one was pretty amazing. the shows yesterday the official line from the white house and paul ryan from house republican leadership saying this bill is a really great start. it protects people with preexisting conditions. potentially better or the same as obamacare. then you had susan collins the senator from maine saying no, we need to start from scratch. whole new fresh approach. a lot of problems with the bill's coverage and also the fact it defunds planned parenthood. about ten senators that you put. >> risk pools created in maine. you mentioned republican senator susan clinics had her own response. listen to this. >> i've heard a lot of talk about the maine hi risk. indeed it was a success in maine for the 18 months or so in which it operated, but for the package of the aca and it can be part of the solution, but it maine we had definite revenue streams supporting the high risk poll. th

we are back with kristen welker, jeremy bash and jonathan swan. and matthew nussbaum all with me on a friday night. carter page. give me an explainer on this. how could someone have had so many interactions with so many russians, small, informal, and unpaid. >> he was one of the individuals who then-candidate trump specifically named when he was asked by reporters, who are your foreign policy advisors. >> it was the only name he could come up. it was an editorial board meeting and he said i've got a national security team. they said who have you got? he said i've got great people, i've got, i've got, i've got carter page. >> it undercuts his claim now that he had no role at all. i have been watching the senate intelligence committee investigation. i was heartened to see they did send these letter requests for documents, for e-mails, and importantly about financial documents and transactions from those individuals and russian officials. it tells me the investigation is in two phases, phase one is how did russia meddle? phase two is what were the co

we are back with kristen welker, jeremy bash and jonathan swan. jeremy, how could someone have had so many interactions with so many russians, small, informal, and unpaid. >> he was one of the individuals who then candidate trump specifically named when he was asked by reporters, who are your foreign policy advisors. >> it was the only name he could come up. he said i have got a national security team. they said who have you got. he said i've got great people, i've got, i've got, i've got carter page. >> it undercuts his claim now that he had no role at all. i have been watching the senate intelligence committee investigation. i s hearned to see they did send letter requests for documents, for e-mails, and importantly about financial documents and transactions from russian interests. it tells me the investigation is in two phases, phase one is how did russia meddle, phase two is what were the coordination points between the trump campaign and russia. they are going on it on a bipartisan basis. this is knots a democratic hoax as the president claim

jonathan swan, i want to play part of conversation that my colleague had take. listen to what was said. >> did the president fire director comey to impede the rushing investigation? >> well, as you know very clearly, as has been stayed repeatedly, the president is not under investigation. as former director clapper, the director of national intelligence said, there is no evidence of collusion. >> but the director claer -- >> our campaign and any russian officis. >> but intelligence officials have said there's an investigation into potential ties. >> that's not what this is about. the president took strong and decisive leadership here to put the safety and security of the american people first. >> just hearing there from the vice president. they're deflecting all the mentions of the russia investigation. they say this was for safety and security's sake. is that the may not line you're hearing from the white house? as i pose that to you, even white house officials were saying the way this was handled in terms of the messaging, as they put it to you, ensainsane. >>

jonathan swan, what are you doing to be watching over the next 24 to 48 hours to see where this is going. >> it's all about the moderates. and my understanding from my sources in leadership and in the white house is that they're not really considering any significant changes to the text at this point. the text is the text and they've got the freedom caucus guys on board, that's has a really big deal. you change anything you lose those guys, the whole things falls part. >> doesn't the white house think part of the problem has been that they sort of outsourced it to paul ryan. >> 100%. this has really changed. the first time around -- i've heard this from senior officials. they say it privately but they're open about it. the big e mistake we made was outsourcing to paul ryan and tom price. but they sat back, let the caucus figure this stuff out. there are a lot of moderates upset feeling they weren't involved in this process. it wasn't heavy handed from the white house or leadership. leadership has been cynical all along. and the shift has been in the last i'd say 72 hours when my sources

we are back with kristen welker, jeremy bash and jonathan swan. jeremy, how could someone have had so many interactions with so many russians, small, informal, and unpaid. >> he was one of the individuals who then candidate trump specifically named when he was asked by reporters, who are your foreign policy advisors. >> it was the only name he could come up. he said i have got a national security team. they said who have you got. he said i've got great people, i've got, i've got, i've got carter page. >> it undercuts his claim now that he had no role at all. i have been watching the senate intelligence committee investigation. i was heartened to see they did send letter requests for documents, for e-mails, and importantly about financial documents and transactions from russian interests. it tells me the investigation is in two phases, phase one is how did russia meddle, phase two is what were the coordination points between the trump campaign and russia. they are going on it on a bipartisan basis. this is knots a democratic hoax as the president c

lynn sweet for the chicago sun times, jonathan swan, national political reporter for axios who wrote that article about steve bannon. so, i'll start with you. is bannon back? >> to some extent he is. steve bannon was very much on the out stott extent that donald trump felt very comfortable venting about steve bannon, musing, contemplating firing him or how -- what to do with him. he certainly lost the trust of jared kushner. and, so, it was on very rocky turf about a month ago and donald trump made no secret of that. he did a few media interviews where he really threw him under the bus. but steve bannon does well in crises. and what this has done, it actually reminds me of the access hollywood moment during the campaign because it's created the situation where a lot of republicans in washington want to stay as far away from this white house as possible. and what it's done is it's actually galvanized the people who remain inside the white house just out of necessity. >> could this, caitlyn, actually be something that brings some calm, or at least some unity within this white house? i'

. >> with me jonathan swan national political reporter for axio, pulitzer prize winning columnist for the washington post. chief correspondent for the washington examiner. jonathan, first to you. your thoughts about the president suggesting he does not have any at all press briefings or that he have them every two weeks and that he handle them himself. or he also said answer questions in writing. >> well, i can tell you the president has been incredibly frustrated with sean spicer specifically and his press team in general. he's been venting all week privately about spicer. he thinks that he's been poorly served. he views the whole comey incident not as a failure of himself as not giving them enough time, but he thinks their response was incompetent and that he was completely exposed on air. so, that's where all this is coming from. and he also has always thought that he's his own best messenger. he's his own best messaging strategist. he was very proud of that free wheeling press conference he did earlier this year when he was just getting fed up with seeing people not representing t

jonathan swan reported this morning that mnuchin met yesterday in the freedom caucus of the basement of the capitol along with other house conservatives. he made it clear, for some time, the white house opposes the border adjustment tax, which is an important part of your tax plan. the chairman of the freedom caucus -- >> house speaker ryan's remarks from this morning are available at c-span.org. we'll leave it here because the u.s. house is about to gavel in. members expected to debate a bill regarding pesticide use in waterways. several measures dealing with child exploitation and sex all abuse, including one requiring amateur sports organizations to report allegations of sexual abuse. this due to recent reports of sexual abuse in u.s.a. olympics, swimming, and taekwondo. life to the house floor here on c-span. rt beach, california. becky became a licensed pastor in 2014. when she and her husband, roger, founded the viewpoint church. today she and her husband give virtual guidance and personal counselling to -- counseling to members of the viewpoint church but also people throughou

swan who wrote the story. >> not axios. >> okay. yeah. >> as the senate begins drafting its health care proposal republicans in states have expanded medicaid under obamacare are at odds over how much of the expansion to keep intact and for how long. kayla tausche joins us from little rock, arkansas. kayla? >> good morning, becky. medicaid expansion is an issue that is a double edged sword in deep red states like arkansas. on one hand it carries a very high cost for federal and state governments. but on the other hand the benefits to hospitals and the economy here has been noticeable. take the university of arkansas medical science where we are. doctors say that the uninsured rate here has fallen from 15% to 3%. that they've been able to hire about 1500 new employees since 2009. and last year turned their first profit in a number of years. the chancellor of this hospital says that medicaid expansion has not only brought costs down for his company, but also prices down for consumers. >> the dialogue that obamacare will collapse of its

and barnum and bailey circus sang its swan song. jonathan lee iverson served as ringmaster of the last show. >> we were part of something amazing, something that most people will never experience. it's a time of mourning, but it's a time of celebration too. >> reporter: alexander and katy lacy were the show's main animal tamers, taming big cats, llamas, and a kangaroo. >> ringling was the cream of the crop, the best place to work because of what they could provide for me and my animals. >> reporter: those performances along be the animals, the elephants, were the biggest draw. but the circus faced mounting pressure from animal welfare activists and last year the company retired its elephants, though, it always denied its abuse. they said it was the beginning of the end for business. >> we saw a drop in ticket sales in attendance way beyond what we had anticipated. >> 94-year-old selma heller rode those ringling elephants as an acrobat during the 1946 season. >> who do you think is better? your show? >> oh, yeah. >> the 1946 show? >>

thank you, jonathan, for appearing on c-span. one question i have for mr. swan is, from watching the intelligence hearings on and off, i will often hear one of the senators say that we all agree that this happened or that we all agree on this or that this person did such and such, but i have never seen any proof or evidence. is aerstand that there need to protect sources and methods, but at some point in the committee have to show proof and evidence to the american people of what did or did not happen. i do not see that occurring. is, the saudis employed three lobbying firms, influenceave great over our representatives in the united states but also in great theyin and europe where manage to get the europeans on a -- just toot admit , hillary clinton accepted money from the saudis through her foundation. host: you have a lot going on there. what is the other question? caller: the first question is the need to show proof and evidence regarding the russia charges. host: let's let jonathan swann pick up on that one. i think for now, it is an active investigatio

song. ♪ should all acquaintance be forgot ♪ >> reporter: jonathan lee iverson served as ring master of the last show. >> we were part of something amazing. something that most people will never experience. it's a time of mourning, but it's a time of celebration too. >> reporter: alexander and katie lacy were the show's main animal trainers, training a menagerie of big cats, lamas and kangaroos. >> it was the cream of the crop, the best place to work because of what they could provide for me and my animals. >> reporter: those animals had long been the show's biggest draw. >> animals are not ours for entertainment. >> reporter: but they faced pressure from animal rights activists. and then feld entertainment retired the elephants, they say that was beginning of the end for business. >> we saw a drop in ticket sales and attendance way beyond what we anticipated. >> reporter: 94-year-old selma heller rode those ringling elephants as an acrobat during the 1946 season. who do you think had the better show, was yours better? >> oh, yes. >> reporter: she came to say good-bye. >> maybe it sh

song. ♪ should all acquaintance be forgot ♪ >> reporter: jonathan lee iverson served as ring master of the last show. >> we were part of something amazing. something that most people will never experience. it's a time of mourning, but it's a time of celebration too. >> reporter: alexander and katie lacy were the show's main animal trainers, training a menagerie of big cats, lamas and kangaroos. >> it was the cream of the crop, the best place to work because of what they could provide for me and my animals. >> reporter: those animals had long been the show's biggest draw. >> animals are not ours for entertainment. >> reporter: but they faced pressure from animal rights activists. and then feld entertainment the company that owns ringling brothers, retired the elephants, though they always denied abuse. they say that was the beginning of the end for business. >> we saw a drop in ticket sales and attendance way beyond what we anticipated. >> reporter: 94-year-old selma heller rode those ringling elephants as an acrobat during the 1946 season. who do you think had the better show, was y

♪ should all acquaintance be forgot ♪ >> reporter: jonathan lee iverson served as ring master of the last show. >> we were part of something amazing. something that most people will never experience. it's a time of mourning, but it's a time of celebration too. >> reporter: alexander and katie lacy were the show's main animal trainers, training a menagerie of big cats, lamas and kangaroos. >> it was the cream of the crop, the best place to work because of what they could provide for me and my animals. >> reporter: those animals had long been the show's biggest draw. >> animals are not ours for entertainment. >> reporter: but they faced pressure from animal rights activists. and then feld entertainment retired the elephants, they say that was beginning of the end and attendance way beyond what we anticipated. >> reporter: 94-year-old selma heller rode those ringling elephants as an acrobat during the 1946 season. who do you think had the better show, was yours better? >> oh, yes. >> reporter: she came to say good-bye. >> maybe it should let it rest and let it be the greatest show. >> a

. >> mike's top 10 an official person close to the republican congressal leadership spold jonathan swan this will be the autumn of disconsent for republicans. they'll come back from the summer break and you will not have based on the calendar, you will not have a major accomplishment. speaker rye yan: i wouldn't say that at all. i disagree with that completely. i heard you say that this morning so i brought an email. look what we have done already. number of bills passed out of the house in the first 100 days of a new presidency, 22 in bush 41. 28 for clinton. 42 for george w. bush. 94 for obama. 103 for house republicans in the first 100 days. laws signed into law in the first 100 days. 18 for h.w. bush. 24 for clinton. seven for george w. bush. 15 for obama. 30 in this congress. 30 laws in the first 100 days. congressional review acts, how many before this presidency? one. how many in law? 14. i think we have been productive. i feel good about that. >> when we get to december 23, you go away, the president -- speaker ryan: december 23? we have to get tax reform done by that. we feel c

i'm joined by jonathan hoenig and a "fox news" contributor tom irwin's. jonathan we just heard mohamad el-erian pouring a little cold water on the theory that in fact if there is no tax cut is going to cause a huge drop in the market and in fact mohamad el-erian said the market has already priced that into which you say what? >> i would think a black swan it's not that certainly a lot of changes in expectation. mr. mohamad el-erian alluded to that when he talked about rotation. this is still a bull market. we just heard from stocks like lowing 3m mcdonald's all had high time -- all-time highs. a lot of people invested after the election with the anticipation as you said tax cuts, health care reform infrastructure spending. none of that has panned out and especially now. so many months of gains has a lot of people sitting on their hands. ed: what happens if something specific takes place inside the beltway that makes it clear there's going to be no tax cut in 2017? would that send the mark itself in a big way maybe to a correction? >> good afternoon. he wo