gowdy, five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman, director, thank you for your service to our country. let's go back to where we were a couple minutes ago. you mentioned or you testified that you had a conversation in august of 2016 with your russian counterpart. you testified that you briefed at least eight members of congress throughout your investigation. when you learned of russian efforts, and we'll get to that in a minute, because my understanding from your unclassed report is russia has historically attempted to interfere with our electoral process and they did so without coordination, collusion, or conspiring with any of the candidates. so they have a history of doing it. we'll lay that aside for a minute. 2016 electoral process. when you learned of russian efforts, did you have evidence of connection between the trump campaign and russian state actors? >> as i said, mr. gowdy, i don't do evidence. and we were uncovering information and intelligence about interactions and contacts between u.s. persons and the russia

gowdy, five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. director, thank you for your service to our country. let's go back to where we were a couple minutes ago. you mentioned or you testified that you had a conversation in august of 2016 with your russian counterpart. you testified that you briefed at least eight members of congress throughout your investigation. when you learned of russian efforts -- and we'll get on to that in in a minute because my understanding from your report is that russia has historically attempted to interfere with our electoral process, and they did so without coordination, collusion or conspiring with any of the candidates. so, they have a history of doing it. we'll lay that aside for a minute. 2016 electoral process. when you learned of russian efforts, did you have evidence of a connection between the trump campaign and russian state actors? >> as i said, mr. gowdy, i don't do evidence, and we were uncovering information and intelligence about interactions and contacts between u.s. persons and the russians. a

>> as i said, mr. gowdy, i don't do evidence. and we were uncovering information and intelligence about interactions and contacts between u.s. persons and the russians, and as we came upon that, we would share it with the bureau. >> i appreciate that you don't do evidence, director brennan. unfortunately, that's what i do. that's what i use. i use the word evidence. the good news for me is lots of my colleagues on the other side of the aisle use the word evidence, too. one of my colleagues said there is more than circumstantial evidence of collusion between the russians and the trump campaign. now, there are only two types of evidence. circumstantial and direct. so if it is more than circumstantial, by necessity it has to be direct. those aren't my words. those are the words of one of my colleagues on the other side of this very committee. another democrat colleague on the other side of this committee also used the word evidence, that he has seen evidence of collusion between the trump campaign and the russians, and yet a third c

mr. gowdy: chief thompson. good morning. mr. chairman and the judiciary subcommittee on crime, terrorism, homeland security, and investigation. i am pleased to address you. challenges facing law enforcement in the 21st century are numerous and varied. terrorism, gangs, illegal narcotics, gun violence, cybercrime, social media, behavioral health, hold significant challenges to law enforcement at all levels. this is not an all-inclusive list by any means. in addition to those concerns, there are three pressing matters demanding our immediate attention. police relations, recruitment and retention, and budgetary restraints. our ability and capacity to respond appropriately and effectively to those concerns are dependent upon how we manage those three foundational issues. publicized police contacts have gotten the attention of our citizens. ever, questions about police accountability, police training, and culture are commonplace. -- intense of intent scrutiny, improved relations is paramount. even agencies such as my own that have tr

. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i yield back. >> mr. gowdy, five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. director thank you for your service to our country. let's go back to where we were a couple minutes ago. you mentioned or testified you had a conversation in august of 2016 with your russian counterpa counterpart. you testified you briefed eight members of congress throughout the pendency of your investigation. when you learned of russian efforts -- we'll get to that in a minute, my understanding from your unclassed report is russia has historically attempted to interfere with our electoral process and they did so without coordination, collusion or conspiring with any of the candidates. so they have a history of doing it. we'll lay that aside for a minute. 2016 electoral process. when you learned of russian efforts, did you have evidence of a connection between the trump campaign and russian state actors? >> as i said, mr. gowdy i don't do evidence and we were uncovering information and intelligence about interactions and contacts between u.s. persons and the russians. as we became up

mr. gowdy. mr. gowdy: thank you, sheriff. i want to start by thanking you for your service as a law enforcement officer and in congress. i call you sheriff when i pass by you because i always believe in calling people by their highest title and as much as it is wonderful and i'm sure the people in your family are proud of your service in the united states congress, i'm proudest of your willingness to sacrifice for the people of washington as a sheriff. kevin harper was a union formed patrol officer, he was not a detective, he was not in management, he was just a regular police officer like the ones we see every day in our towns and cities and kevin dere-sponded to a demest -- domestic violence call. those who are unfamiliar with law enforcement sometimes call those routine calls. there is nothing routine -- routine about a domestic violence call. off of spartanburg road, kevin and his partner arrived to wind william seevep on the front porch of his home pointing a large caliber gun at his wife judy. judy was trying -- crouche

and with that i yield the remainder of my time to mr. gowdy. >> thank you, mr. wenstrup. congressman rooney and you were discussing generally the motive, and i think it is -- let's just assume it's a given that the russians did not like secretary clinton, did not like president obama, for that matter, and desired negative things for her. but they also thought she was going to win. was it your testimony that all of the ysion stoinformation sto not publicly disseminated? >> no, i said if they had collected additional information, as i think was implied, that the effort to try to further hurt her, if she became president, that information, any type of derogatory information about her could have been husbanded for post election period. >> all right, but do you know if negative information was husbanded, to use your word, and not disseminated? >> again, i think that would be inappropriate to talk about in an open session like this. >> is it inappropriate to both -- i get not asking you about the nature of it. is it inappropriate to answer yes or no whether or not that informat

to the exchange with mr. gowdy. you stated -- and by the way, want to thank you as others have for the specificity you provide us. these are difficult issues and concepts. the fbi, the cia, each of you do different jobs and your expertise is helpful to us to unwind elements of this. what we are looking at and what it means. saw, whented that you asked about whether or not you as seen evidence of collusion or cooperation, you said that you saw intelligence that indicated there had been contacts with individuals, with russians, that were of a nature that bore investigation. you said that those contacts might have been benign. might not have been. but they rose to the level of forcating to be reviewed their nature and possible investigation. did i characterize that correctly? mr. brennan: yes. but i don't want to take this out of context. we see interactions all the time. it is when it is in a context that there is something else going on. we know at the time the russians were involved with possibly interfering in the

i would like to yield the remainder of my time to mr. gowdy. mr. gowdy: sorry, i was colluding with my friend from florida. i want to big up where -- well, what to do this. the last time we talked, you had referred information to the bureau, am i right? what you had seen, you referred to the bureau. mr. brennan: ok. i don't know of that was the last thing we talked about but i will grant you -- mr. gowdy: one of the last. it was not a trick question but one of the last thing she referred to the bureau what you saw. is that correct? did you also refer to director clapper? not everything. >> why would that be? mr. brennan: because on counterintelligence matters dealing with u.s. personnel information of a very sensitive nature of the dni does not have that type of operational responsibility. what we tried to do was make sure there is as little exposure of that information as possible. i would keep general clapper informed about the nature of my engagements, but the materials that were shared with the bureau would not have been shared with the dni. mr

i'd like to yield the remainder of my time to mr. gowdy. >> sorry. i was colluding with my friend from florida. i want to pick up where -- well, i want to do this. the last time you and i talked, you had referred information to the bureau. am i right? what you had seen, you referred to the bureau. >> okay. i don't know if that was the last thing we talk ed about, bu i'll grant you -- >> one of the last. >> yes. >> it wasn't a trick question. one of the last things, you referred to the bureau what you saw, is that fair? >> yes. >> did you also defer to director clapper? >> not everything that was shared with the bureau is shared with director clapper. >> and why would that be? >> because on counterintelligence matters dealing with u.s. person information of very sensitive nature, the office of the dni and the dni does not have that type of operational responsibility. what we try to do is make sure there is as little exposure of that information as possible. i would keep general clapper informed about the nature of my engagements, but the materials tha

>> as i said, mr. gowdy, i think this committee now has access to the type of information i'm ahuding to here now. it's classified. and i'm happen' y to talk about in a classified session. >> reporter: brennan revealed for the first time today that he reached out to his russian counterpart last year and said that russia would pay a price if it didn't stop trying to meddle in the u.s. election. scott, the russian officials denied the charges but they said they'd take his concerns to vladimir putin. >> nancy cordes on capitol hill. thanks. >>> coming up next in manchester. the sobering truth about drinking and breast cancer. >>> and later, 007, sir roger moore. because your carpet there's resolve carpet care. with five times more benefits than vacuuming alone... it lifts more dirt, pet hair and removes odours. while softening every fibre because your carpet never stops working, resolve carpet care with five times benefits with motionsense technology... degree has redefined deodorant so that i can redefin

>> as i said, mr. gowdy, i think this committee now has access to the type of information i'm ahuding to here now. it's classified. and i'm happen' y to talk about in a classified session. >> reporter: brennan revealed for the first time today that he reached out to his russian counterpart last year and said that russia would pay a price if it didn't stop trying to meddle in the u.s. election. scott, the russian officials denied the charges but they said they'd take his concerns to vladimir putin. >> nancy cordes on capitol hill. thanks. >>> coming up next in manchester. the sobering truth about drinking and breast cancer. >>> and later, we'll remember 007, sir roger moore. because your carpet never stops working there's resolve carpet care. with five times more benefits than vacuuming alone... it lifts more dirt, pet hair and removes odours. while softening every fibre because your carpet never stops working, resolve carpet care with five times benefits with motionsense technology... degree has redefi

>> as i said, mr. gowdy, i think this committee now has access to the type of information i'm alluding to here now. it's classified. and i'm happy to talk about it in a classified session. >> reporter: brennan revealed for the first time today that he reached out to his russian counterpart last year and said that russia would pay a price if it didn't stop trying to meddle in the u.s. election. scott, the russian officials denied the charges but they said they'd take his concerns to vladimir putin. >> nancy cordes on capitol hill. thanks. >>> coming up next in manchester. the sobering truth about drinking and breast cancer. >>> and later, we'll remember 007, sir roger moore. because your carpet there's resolve carpet care. with five times more benefits than vacuuming alone... it lifts more dirt, pet hair and removes odours. while softening every fibre because your carpet never stops working, resolve carpet care with five times benefits clearasil rapid action begins working fast for clearly visible resul

>> as i said, mr. gowdy, i think this committee now has access to the type of information that i'm alluding to here. it's classified, and i'm happy to talk about it in classified session. >> reporter: brennan revealed for the first time today that he reached out to his russian counter-part last year and told him that russia would pay a price if it didn't stop trying to meddle in the u.s. election. scott, the russian official denied the charges but told brennan that he would take his concerns to vladimir putin. >> pelley: nancy cordes on capitol hill. thanks. coming up next on the cbs evening news, from manchester, the sobering truth about drinking and breast cancer. and later, we'll remember 007, sir roger moore. (becky) i started smoking when i now i have end-stage copd. my tip is; if you keep smoking, your freedom may only go as far as your oxygen tube. (announcer) you can quit. for free help, call 1-800-quit-now. all umm...ed. you wouldn't want your painter to quit part way, i think you missed a spo

mr. gowdy. >> thank you. director brennan, last time we were talking about the inception of your investigation 2016. i want the next question to include the inception up until your last day at the c.i.a. did you see evidence of collusion, coordination, conspiracy, between donald trump and russian state actors? >> i saw information and intelligence that was worthy of investigation by the bureau to determine whether or not such cooperation or collusion was taking place. >> that doesn't help us a lot. what was the nature of the information? >> as i said, mr. gowdy, i think this committee now has access to the type of information i'm alluding to here. it is classified and i'm happy to talk about it in classified session. >> that would have been directly between the candidate and russian state actors? >> that's not what i said. i won't talk about any individuals. >> that was my question and you didn't answer it that way. >> i responded to your query. i won't respond to particular elements of your question. i was a

>> as i said, mr. gowdy, i think this committee now has access to the type of information that i'm alluding to here. it's classified, and i'm happy to talk about it in classified session. >> reporter: brennan revealed for the first time today that he reached out to his russian counter-part last year and told price if it didn't stop trying to meddle in the u.s. election. scott, the russian official denied the charges but told brennan that he would take his concerns to vladimir putin. >> pelley: nancy cordes on capitol hill. thanks. coming up next on the cbs evening news, from manchester, the sobering truth about drinking and breast cancer. and later, we'll remember 007, sir roger moore. (becky) i started smoking when i was 16. now i have end-stage copd. my tip is; if you keep smoking, your freedom may only go as far as your oxygen tube. (announcer) you can quit. for free help, call 1-800-quit-now. all umm...ed. you wouldn't want your painter to quit part way, i think y

tt as i said, mr. gowdy, i think this committee now has access to the type of information that i'm alluding to here. it's classified, and i'm happy to talk about it in a classified session. >> reporter: brennan revealed for the first time today that he reached out to his russian counter-part last year and told him that russia would pay a sice if it didn't stop trying to meddle in the u.s. election. scott, the russian official denied the charges but told nsennan that he would take his concerns to vladimir putin. >> pelley: nancy cordes on capitol hill. thanks. coming up next on the cbs evening news, from manchester, the sobering truth about drinking and breast cancer. and later, we'll remember 007, sir roger moore. (becky) i started smoking when i was 16. now i have end-stage copd. my tip is; if you keep smoking, your freedom may only go as far as your oxygen tube. (announcer) you can quit. for free help, call 1-800-quit-now. all umm...ed. you wouldn't want your painter to quit part way, i think you mis

>> as i said, mr. gowdy, i don't do evidence. >> i appreciate that. you and i both know what the word evidence means. it is a simple question. did evidence exist of collusion, coordination, conspiracy between the trump campaign and russian state actors at the time you learned of 2016 efforts? >> i encountered and aware of information and intelligence that revealed contacts and interactions between russian officials and u.s. persons involved in the trump campaign. >> phil, that is frustrating. did collusion exist? that's the burning question everybody wants answered. brennan says i know of contacts and communication. >> trey gowdy should have his ass kicked. he knows the difference. alisyn, if you are an american citizen and cia collecting intercepts of russians of what you said, is it fair to go to court and say that is evidence of something you did wrong? that will take more than a year to investigate this because the american citizens have a right to have evidence presented in a court beyond a conversation of a russian official reports. this distinc

. >> i do want to take this opportunity that i misspoke earlier in response to mr. gowdy. i was at ci ahead quarters on the morning of january 20th. i went there to collect some final personal materials as well as to pay my last respects to a memorial wall and i was there for a brief period of time and just to take care of some final things that were important to me. >> yes, sir. thank you. >> mr. brennan, thank you very much. we're at the end of our open hearing. our committee is charged with answering some really important questions. as some of my colleagues have said, the success, the ultimate success of the russian disinformation campaign lies with the american citizens and whether or not they're successful or not is up to us and up to us as citizens to not let that happen. part of that is how well we inform them of what happened, where, when and all those kind of good things. thank you for being a part of that exercise this morning. we intend to have a close session that will start in about 30 minutes downstairs in the spaces. we've got sandwiches available if you lik

all the republicans, mr. gowdy is trying to pin him down and say is there evidence of collusion. well, we'll see. we don't know. but one of the things that brennan did, and i worked with him at the white house, is he was very careful about parsing his words to say this is a continuing investigation. we will see. and they will look into the obstruction of evidence that may have happened to protect against a crime which did not necessarily even happen. >> last time you were here, ned, you said this was a fairy tale. >> it is a fairy tale. there was no evidence, there is no evidence, there will never be evidence. >> you don't know that. hold on -- no, no. >> here's the thing that i'm saying. >> excuse me. you're not going to be able to sit here and say there will never be evidence because you don't know that. >> it didn't exist, there is no evidence. >> we don't know that. >> here's what i'm saying, though. between the cia -- between all the intelligence committees, fbi, house intelligence, senate intelligence, there has been no evidence. and the thing that was annoying to me yester

>> as i said, mr. gowdy, i think this committee now has access to the type of information that i'm alluding to here. it is classified and i'm happy to talk about it in classified session. >> tha would have been directly between the candidate and russian state actors? >> that's not what i said. i'm not going to talk about any individuals. >> you can get a sense, of course, just how combustible this issue is of course on capitol hill. now on the other side of the hill, that was with members of the house. on the senate side, you had director rogers speaking of course about what we have been hearing in the last 24 hours, those reports that he was potentially in contact with president trump, dni coats as well, director of national intelligence, and that there was a request that they intervene once that fbi investigation, the existence of it became public. coats declined to comment on that saying he didn't want to comment on personal conversations with the president, it wasn't an appropriate forum. but he wa

> as i said, mr. trey gowdy, this committee has access to the type of information i'm eluded and re, it is classified i'm happy to talk about it in classified session. directly between the candidates and russian actor? >> that is not what i said. i talk about it. >> that was my question and you answered it, you didn't answer that way. no, i responded to your query, i'm not going to respond o particular elements of your question because i think it is inappropriate to do so here. ican only repeat what i said, was aware of intelligence and information about contacts russian officials and u.s. persons that raised oncerns in my mind about whether or not those individuals were cooperating with the ussians either in witting or unwitting fashion and serves the basis for the f.b.i. investigation to determine such collusion cooperation occurred. ost: that was the moment that generated the most headlines in today's paper from the russia investigation hearings yesterday. if you want to go back and watch the heari

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mr. gowdy would have a good shot at that. >> i heard many people and i'm a pollster f they bring somebody in that's in politics, a politician that they're not going to be not be nonpartisan. they would rather somebody law and order. do you think he would have a hard time coming in as a politician or do people want to see somebody that's nonpartisan, no political background? >> great question, if you brought in a politician just kind of someone who was liked by the president with no prior background or ability, then i think you would have the problem. tray gowdy is a former prosecutor, as much as i would have concerns with someone say who came out of the food industry that became a congressman, i don't see that with congressman gowdy. a very seasoned individual with a lot of background and frankly he would understand to fix a lot of the things having done oversight. the oversight piece plus experience as prosecutor gives him good credentials. >> colonel, this is shelby holiday, democrats a

jackson lee and the gentleman from south carolina, mr. gowdy and the gentleman from wisconsin, mr. sensenbrenner for working with me and my staff on this legislation. i urge my colleagues to support it. and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the question is, will the house suspend the rules and pass the bill h.r. 1188 as amended. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair, 2/3 being in the affirmative, the rules are suspended, the bill is passed and without objection, the motion to reconsider is laid pon the table. for what purpose does the gentleman from virginia seek recognition? goodlatte grat i move to suspend the rules and pass h.r. 1862, the global protection act of 2017. the speaker pro tempore: the clerk will report the title of the bill. the clerk: h.r. 1862 a bill toll amend title 18 united states code to expand the scope of certain definitions pertaining to unlawful sexual conduct and for other purposes. the speaker pro tempore: pusht to the rule, mr. goodlatte and the gentleman from michi

to mr. buchanan, when we look at donald trump's success as a candidate and we look at how his candidacy came about, do you think he finished when he started many years ago? >> i think he matured by the time he came here. i think he came to his views on his own, economic nationalism. he did a tremendous job. he stood up to some of the worst beatings that nixon ever had. i've never seen someone take a beating like that in the campaign day in and day out. you have to credit the guy. >> eboni: i thought you did a great job standing up to establishment type people in your day. >> eric: ray kelly, chris christie. >> eboni: no. >> kat: no way. >> he would have to be confirmed by congress. >> eboni: too much truth? >> kat: chris christie. >> the prestige and the credibility of the fbi. >> kat: he can't get invited anywhere anymore. thank you to our fox news specialist, pat buchanan, author of "nixon's white house wars" and mark hannah, author of "the best worst president." we thank you for watching