that is the north korean. i tried many times to get the north koreans to come and it has been a failure every time i have as an area toew improve on. let's get serious about north korea. we have four renowned experts to address aspects of the north startingsue should at the sis -- cs is. he's also a director of asian studies at georgetown university . from 2004-2007 he served as director for asian affairs at the white house. heat is a -- he is a longtime member and contributor. nationals the deputy intelligence officer for east asia at the national intelligence council. before that, she served as director for korea, japan, and oceanic affairs at the security council. earlier, she worked at the cia. i met her at a conference in philadelphia where i was impressed with her presentation. thanks for coming. he is a professor at the catholic university of america. he served in several advisory positions in the korean government including communication, preparation, and the ministry of unification. we met eight years

north koreans are starting to develop mobile ballistic missiles. the problem of an attack in a preventive way and destroying north korean nuclear capabilities is only getting worse, i would think, and nothing has been done to deal with the conventional threat of south korea. >> ms. magsamen? >> i agree on the china front. i think there are going to be limits what they are willing to do. their biggest fear, of course, is destabilizing the peninsula. now's the time to try to make china understand that the status quo is worse for them than all other scenarios. and to do that i think we need to hold their interests at risk, and what i mean by that is what of what dr. friedberg said, which is we need to really think hard about secondary sanctions on chinese banks. i actually think we should go out and do it now. i don't think we should actually wait. i don't think that holding it in advance is actually going to induce chinese cooperation, so now's the time to demonstrate to china that we're serious in that regard. >> by the way, i agree with the witness

that is the north korean. i tried many times to get the north koreans to come and it has been a failure every time i have my annual review as an area to improve on. let's get serious about north korea. we have four renowned experts to address aspects of the north korean issue, starting with victor cha at csis. he's also a director of asian studies at georgetown university . from 2004-2007 he served as director for asian affairs at the white house. he is a longtime member and contributor. she was the deputy national intelligence officer for east asia at the national intelligence council. before that, she served as director for korea, japan, and oceanic affairs at the security council. earlier, she worked at the cia. i met her at a conference in philadelphia where i was impressed with her presentation. thanks for coming. he is a professor at the catholic university of america. he served in several advisory positions in the korean government including communication, preparation, and the ministry of unification. w

he is trying to out north korean the north koreans. they are pretty good at bellicosity. at some point they may just say let's wait and see if he's really going to do some of these things. it's notjust bellicosity, is it? you said not so long ago, a direct quote from you, "the feeling is, within the next four years, they really could have a missile system with a nuclear warhead." within, that is, the term of the trump presidency. is it not the case that no us president can allow that to happen and if the diplomacy doesn't yield anything, beijing can't deliver on getting north korea to change tack over the next year or two, there will have to be an american military intervention, won't there? it's quite possible but here is the scenario. you launch a pre—emptive strike against the north korean nuclear facilities and then the north koreans retaliate by by launching artillery at the 20 million or so south koreans who live within artillery range of north korea. once they strike south korean civilian centres, then what does the us do? does the us then retaliate for that beca

koreans and give the north koreans something. so it is a different way of thinking, but nonetheless, that is the way that pyongyang has approached all of the attempts to start negotiations. >> so the question there is, if this is aiming to get what they want, what do they want? >> well, i think that they want a couple of things. short term, they do want a relief from sanctions. north kr north korea has a diplomatic initiative about two weeks, about one week old where they are trying to get the u.n. to lift the sanction, and the u.s. to lift sanctions, and longer term, the goal of north korea has remained unchanged. and that goal is to the destruction of the south korean state, because the north koreans believe they have the right to rule the entire peninsula, and so they have the short term and long term strategies, and they think that this is the way to accomplish them. >> what do we know about the nuclear capabilities? >> well, they have detonated, and they have had five tests. they now have buried a device at their test site i

he is trying to out north korea the north koreans. they are pretty good at bella scott t. —— being bellicose. they are waiting to see if he was do these things. it's not just bellicosity. you said that the feeling is, within the next four yea rs, feeling is, within the next four years, they feeling is, within the next four yea rs, they really feeling is, within the next four years, they really could have a missile system with a nuclear warhead, that is within the term of the trump presidency. is it not the case that no us president can allow that to happen and if the diplomacy doesn't yield anything, beijing can't deliver on getting north korea to change tack over the next year or two, there will have to be an american military intervention, wouldn't it? it's quite possible that here is a scenario. you launch a pre—emptive strike against the north korean nuclear facilities a pre—emptive strike against the north korean nuclearfacilities and then the north koreans retaliate by launching artillery to the south koreans who live wi

we didn't really think of north koreans as humans. times have changed, at least in the south. >> she will be a doctor and a barber. she is a person that took care of everybody. she really looked after me. she loved me. along with many of his compatriots, he hopes that one day he can go back home and reunite with his family. >> he may have won a battle over health care but can donald trump win the war? republicans passed their plan to repeal and replace all obamacare through the lower house but the american health care act now goes to the senate for approval. it is not likely to face stiff opposition there. millions of americans could face losing health insurance. president trump gave legislation -- the legislation high praise. >> it will be great health care and your premiums will come down and your deductibles will come down. you will have better health care at a lower cost. now i am calling on the senate to take action. repealing and replacing obamacare will be a big, big win for the american people. >> trump is calling on the senat

preparing for the 2018 world cup but at what cost, as concerns over the exploitation of north korean workers plague russian organisers. we head to paris and trace the background of chelsea and france star n'golo kante. and tom dumoulin tightens his grip on the overall lead after stage 18 of the giro d'italia. hello and welcome to the programme where we start with news about the 2018 world cup in russia. when fans gather to watch the first semifinal at next year's tournament in the newly built stadium in st petersburg, to what extent did those who helped build it suffer? fifa have found evidence north koreans who worked on the site were subjected to appalling conditions. our sports news correspondent richard conway takes up the story. the heads of four nordic football associations wrote to the fifa president because they had been made aware of allegations, norwegian magazine about the use of north korean workers building the saint petersburg stadium. subsequent to that, the president has written back and said that he is aware of these north korean. a monitoring committee that these ar

we did extend a hand to north koreans. we did in the 1990's with president clinton, again in the bush years. they did not unclench their fist. it is important we have our allies. it is important china joins us. things are moving in that direction. host: when you hear a willingness from the president to talk to kim jong-un and call him a smart cookie, does that give you concern? guest: he is a smart cookie in that he has been able to achieve 't.ngs other nations haven and he knows how to yank our chain. concessions inim the past. he and his father had been doing this for many years. would i meet with kim jong-un? i don't know that i would. i probably wouldn't. i think it rewards him for his behavior. he wants to increase his stature among world leaders and globally.events i think meeting with him is a mistake. decides to, i'm hopeful he will be able to him.ade i think there is a price to be paid in that consideration as well. host: tony from ashburn, virginia, republican line. caller: hi. i think a war with north korea is i

perhaps, trying to assassinate the north korean leader. pre-emptively destroying the missiles on the ground before they're used and so on. the advantage of course of missile defense is that it is les provocative than some of the other options but you certainly need to consider all of the options when faced with our threat. the president is currently undergoing that review but they said that they cannot get pressure on china and north korea, they will consider other options. >> when you see north korea launch these missiles is this saber rattling? is this an indication that their technology is advancing? >> all the stuff about destroying the united states is saber rattling. but what is new, they are increasing their capabilities. they are testing the ability to launch longer-range systems. the ability to launch them from submarines, launch them from missiles. so far their tests have been mixed. they sometimes succeed, but they tested a lot more frequently, particularly last year. they tested about 20 times, and more than ever before. they'v

it targets those who employ north korean slave labor overseas. countries from senegal to qatar to angola import these north korean workers who promptly send their salary back to the regime in north korea, earning the regime billions of dollars in hard currency each year. this is money that kim jong un uses to advances his nuclear missile program and also pay his generals, buying their loyalty to his brutal regime, and that is what the high level defectors that i met with say so let's squeeze his purse. it cracks down on north korean shipping and the use of international ports, restricting the regime's ability to ship weapons and other banned goods. and when we discover that foreign banks have helped kim jong un skirt these sanctions, as some in china have repeatedly done, then we must give those banks and businesses a stark choice -- to do business with that regime in north korea or the u.s. -- as we've heard from the new administration, this is a key focus of theirs. so mr. speaker, this legislation gives the administration powerful new tools to

koreans, the north koreans are just stepping up their testing program. they are stepping it up in the most interesting way. their biggest concern is not doing something that would prompt president trump to take some kind of preemptive military action, or something that was so horrified international community that it would actually unify everybody on sanctions. that would be dropping the icbm just off of the west coast or something. instead, they are doing a series of tests that are going high up into space. this one went up 2000 kilometers, 1400 miles. then it is doing a sharp down 400 ord coming so miles from the north korean coast. that replicates the reentry of an icbm. they are putting together the component pieces of what it would take to demonstrate that they could send a missile much further without actually prompting that kind of military response. what's interesting also is what didn't happen. as we reported to months ago, the united states had a very active cyber and electronic warfare program you and i have discussed on this show before, that

>> remember the key objective is to bring about a change in north korean behavior. everything else is a sound and light show. the bottom line is what can you do to bring about a change in behavior. the outcome of the mar-a-lago meeting was for the two sides to work on a common diplomatic strategy to bring about that change in north korea. so far, without result as you've just discussed with the most recent missile test, but from china's perspective, this missile test by the north korean is the least welcomed development. it sends a direct signal to the newly elected president of south korea less than a week ago that the north koreans are in a belligerent mood. from china's perspective in beijing, it was a major global conference hosted here yesterday on a big infrastructure conference. who upsets the party but the guy next door. he doesn't do a lot in terms of improving china's sense of humor about what the north korean leader is up too. >> president trump has been calling for even stronger sanctions and even though the u.s. is applying pressure, we have north korea

>> remember the key objective is to bring about a change in north korean behavior. everything else is a sound and light show. the bottom line is what can you do to bring about a change in behavior. the outcome of the mar-a-lago meeting was for the two sides to work on a common diplomatic strategy to bring about that change in north korea. so far, without result as you've just discussed with the most recent missile test, but from china's perspective, this missile test by the north korean is the least welcomed development. it sends a direct signal to the newly elected president of south korea less than a week ago that the north koreans are in a belligerent mood. from china's perspective in beijing, it was a major global conference hosted here yesterday on a big infrastructure conference. who upsets the party but the guy next door. he doesn't do a lot in terms of improving china's sense of humor about what the north korean leader is up too. >> president trump has been calling for even stronger sanctions and even though the u.s. is applying pressure, we have north korea

north korean slave labor that benefits the regime and north korean shipping. secretary of state rex tillerson chaired a special meeting friday. the point of that was to get u.s. allies and other partner nations to get them to come along to try to isolate north korea further. >> and the administration says china has the power to confront north korea. >> it is. when you look at the relationship there, china is their most powerful ally. what the administration is saying they need to implement sanctions north to convince north korea to move along. that's what analysts are saying and the most effective way to curb their aggression. >> i think the north koreans have seen so many sanctions imposed on them by the u.n. they're blase by now. but if china enforces them, they sit up and take notice. that would be new. >> china has responded that they don't hold the key to this issue on the north korean peninsula. with that, as for how long the administration is willing to wait this out and just use sanctions, the state department says in the coming months, they want to se

koreans, the north koreans are just stepping up their testing program. and they're stepping it up in the most interesting way. so the, their biggest concern is not doing something that would prompt president trump to take some kind of preem tiff military action. or something that would so horrify the international community that it would actually union fie everybody on the sanctions. and that would be dropping the icbm just off of the west coast or something. so instead, they're doing a series of tests that are going high up into space. this one went 2,000 kilometers, 1400 miles. and then it's doing a very sharp parabala and coming down, it landed only 400 or so miles from the north korean coast. so that replicates the reentry of an icbm. so they're putting together the component pieces of what it would take to demonstrate that they could send a missile much further without actually prompting that kind of military response. what is interesting, also here is what didn't happen. we reported about a month and a half or two months ago the united states has h

koreans, the north koreans are just stepping up their testing program. they are stepping it up in the most interesting way. their biggest concern is not doing something that would prompt president trump to take some kind of preemptive military action, or something that was so -- would so horrified the international community that it would actually unify everybody on sanctions. that would be dropping the icbm just off of the west coast or something. instead, they are doing a series of tests that are going high up into space. this one went up 2000 kilometers, 1400 miles. then it is doing a sharp parabola, and coming down 400 or so miles from the north korean coast. that replicates the reentry of an icbm. they are putting together the component pieces of what it would take to demonstrate that they could send a missile much further without actually prompting that kind of military response. what's interesting also is what didn't happen. as we reported two months ago, the united states had a very active cyber and electronic warfare program you and i have discu

the north korean regime poses, as he put it, a big threat to the world. but as far as the red line, as it were, is concerned, mike, he refused to directly answer that question, or to define what would constitute a red line as far as the north korean actions are concerned. he said, as he has said before, that he doesn't choose to telegraph his military intentions in advance. the two rivals in the french presidential race have traded blows to start the final week of campaigning. on sunday, voters will chose between the pro—eu former banker, emmanuel macron, and marine le pen, on the far right. in a rally on monday, she characterised him as the establishment candidate. he said he'd fight "until the last second" to make sure she didn't reach office. here's our paris correspondent, lucy williamson. the second round of french elections has been the graveyard of far—right dreams of power. used to facing a united front of all her rivals, marine le pen is now calling on voters to unite against someone else, her liberal opponent, emmanuel macron. translation: t

the test occurred just two days after the north korean regime launched its ninth missile this year. the ground-based interceptor launched from california's vandenberg air force base shortly after 12:30 pacific time, a little more than an hour later, the pentagon confirmed it had successfully hit an icbm-class target over the pacific ocean. >>> joining me now to discuss that successful intercept test, what it means both politically and militarily and how to deter the rising provocations of north korea and the passivity of china when it comes to north korea, retired four-star general, fox news military analyst, general jack keane, great to have you with us. >> good to be here, lou. lou: it was a success, and it was required to be almost given that it was a direct response to nine missile tests on the part of the north koreans. >> yeah, absolutely, and thankfully so that back in the 80s this was conceptualized as a potential growing threat we'd have a rogue state that could not be persuaded by deterrents as russia and china have been and have the capability to defend against the develo

would have north koreans have said look with the u.s. did in syria, and syria did not protect itself. not attack u.s. will them if they have them. that is a harder thought to overcome. always been a concern that iran might want nuclear weapons. the reasons why a rainy and's have had at various points in the past a nuclear weapons program, they are somewhat isolated in the region probably due to their own policies, but also because of differences governmentm and the paired nuclear weapons could provide a deterrent against an attack by the united states. we saw this in the iraq war. if the iraqis did not have to nuclear weapons, that would be a factor that would weigh against the u.s. intervening. so far, iranians have said they don't want nuclear weapons and there is not evidence they want an active nuclear program. we tried to it -- to convince them and it appears to be working so far that the security is better off integrating in the national security -- community. but they are still developing missiles.listic we worry when the current

and those who employ north korean slave labor. the new sanctions bill requires the administration to determine whether north korea is a state sponsored terrorism. the administration is pushing other countries, china, to implement sanctions. >> there are plenty of chinese companies and chinese banks that are complicit in these activities and at some point the trump administration is going to have to go after them in order to be compliant with the sanctions laws. >> rex tillerson called out china. its response, the key to solving korean aggression lies outside china. state department says the u.s. wants to see a change in north korean behavior in the coming months. in the meantime, placing trust in building a coalition with the u.s. may have to pressure its partners as much as it's pressuring north korea. >> bret: rich edson, thank you. north korea says it will conduct another nuclear test at a time and place of its own choosing. what it's not saying is anything about backing down in the face of growing international pressure. corre

earlier, he speak with reply, she asked if the north korean could punish this family. >> north korea said families are not punished. they've taken us to meet other families to show us their living can bes are the same or even improved. that the company has come together to embrace when loved ones do fact. the number of reports, handling that banished from the -- sent out to labor camps and certainly if it's a government investigation would find they helped in someway for this to happen. we get mixed reports. we only know what we can observe on the ground here. but in the case of this, you know, she really started speaking very vocally in the media about this saying how muh she wanted to come back. she went to south korea because the medical care for the illness that she has was not available here in north korea. she went to china, could not afford to take care of china. she didn't realize once you cross that border, they take your passport, you have to renounce your citizenship and you can never return. she planned she didn't know that until she was too late and now she's desperate.

korean souvenirs on displaym will be chinese, russian and north korean souvenirs on display. it also serves another purpose. the vessel is set to carry essential goods and other cargo. north korea has long been isolated because of strict economic sanctions imposed by the un. the ferry owners say they will improve relations between the two nations. translation: we don't violate any un sanctions. we transport people. we create better communication between people, between china, north korea and brush up. ithink between china, north korea and brush up. i think it's good. —— russia. between china, north korea and brush up. ithink it's good. —— russia. i think everything will be fine. up. ithink it's good. —— russia. i think everything will be finem up. ithink it's good. —— russia. i think everything will be fine. it is not the first time the ship has set sail. it was running between north korea and japan until 11 years ago. but japan suspended the service after a north korean missile test. the service is expected to carry up to 200 passengers. early booking is advi

at least, that is what north koreans say today. according to the account, the hit was supposed to have happened at a military parade in pyongyang last month which fox news attended. >> north korean leader kim jong-un presiding over a most unusual parade in pyongyang. >> a satellite communications device, armed him with a dirty bomb containing radioactive material. pyongyang says it thwarted the plot. a spokesperson for the cia tells fox news it declined to comment. >> it is part of information warfare, and is largely, or probably entirely propaganda. >> still, targeting kim jong-un is not that far-fetched. they have been reports of u.s. military exercises practically decapitating regime leadership to cut short a potentially lengthy conflict. experts say another regime -- through an internal coup. >> said there is always a possibility that there could be a military coup within north korea, or a coupe of the intelligence services paid >> no wonder kim jong-un has been ruthless with his inner circle, most likely behind, for example, t

host: another missile test by the north korean government. the daily mail in london has the piece. our phone lines are open, (202) 748-8000 for democrats, (202) 784-8001 four republicans, (202) 748-8002 four independent voters. caller: i don't think there is a lot to get worried about. when the drums of war were being beaten, they had satellite photos of the north koreans outplaying volleyball and the fleet that was supposed to be right over the horizon was down in indonesia. is a piece of news i would like to talk about, o'reilly was going to get picked up and they were going to have him go toe to toe with ed schultz. i think that would be a good program. host: and is joining us from maine. caller: good morning and thank you. i would like to put this in context with the nuclear deal with iran. the agreement with north korea. we did effectively stop their development of nuclear weapons. it was only when george bush under pretext of insurmountable north korean in this case unilaterally scrapped that deal and we see where we are now. i would like to go back further in history to the

he also wants to provide aide to the north korean's. so i think the north korean's right now think that this is a perfect time for them to really corral the international community, including the united states. get them to sit down and do what north korea wants. julie: in late april, the president donald trump had warned in an interview to reuters that a quote major, major conflict with the north was possible, but that he would prefer a diplomatic outcome to the dispute over its nuclear missile programs. and then we hear about this person from the region from that region saying they would consider sitting down with the u.s. president trump said he would if the conditions were right. what is all of this? >> well, i think all of this right now is really confusion on everyone's part. you have the administration right now consumed by the comey crisis. the north korean's see that, and i think that they believe that they can give president trump an out to sort of give him headlines that he would prefer to have. now, i think the north korean's

the test occurred just two days after the north korean regime launched its ninth missile this year. the ground-based interceptor launched from california's vandenberg air force base shortly after 12:30 pacific time, a little more than an hour later, the pentagon confirmed it had successfully hit an icbm-class target over the pacific ocean. >>> joining me now to discuss that successful intercept test, what it means both politically and militarily and how to deter the rising provocations of north korea and the passivity of china when it comes to north korea, retired four-star general, fox news military analyst, general jack keane, great to have you with us. >> good to be here, lou. lou: it was a success, and it was required to be almost given that it was a direct response to nine missile tests on the partf the north koreans. >> yeah, absolutely, and thankfully so that back in the 80s this was conceptualized as a potential growing threat we'd have a rogue state that could not be persuaded by deterrents as russia and china have been and have the capability to defend against the developi

where the north korean regime has appeared to have launched another projectile. and keir simmons is tracking that. what is being released on the latest test? >> well, milissa, two officials are confirming that north korea launched a projectile and the assessment by the u.s. officials is ongoing. reuters saying that in the last hour that north korea fired on sunday an unidentified projectile from a region of the southeast coast, and according to reuters to korea's military, and the nature of the projectile is not immediately clear. south korean military official told reuters by telephone if this is, milissa, "the case that another missile has been launched by north korea, it is the fourth time this year that, that country has done it, and every month, february, march,rif this is turning out the be a missile test. and clearly, also a test of the new president of the united states. people have been waiting, milissa, for the see whether north korea would conduct a n e nuclear test. that it has not done. and it is conducting the fifth nuclear test last year, and it ha

>> the north koreans reacted to it. they see the presence of two bombers to be a provocative action from the u.s. military. south korean officials are saying it's a show of strength o of alliance to send a message to pyongyang to cut it out. u.s. officials are confirming that they did send two bombers out here. the bombers were flying over the peninsula for training exercises with the south korean air force and also the japanese air force. we have been seeing these ongoing military exercises. involving the strike group in the waters off the peninsula. and u.s. officials have said repeatedly that the presence of these assets are meant to send a message of deterrence. now telling us that controversial missile defense system is operational. and ready to intercept missiles that could come from north korea. >> to your point, japan appearing to change their military action in the region. thank you. >> another concern in the white house. president trump's decision to invite president duterte to washington was not planned. that

i was a secretary of state who tried to negotiate with the north koreans to get them to give up their nuclear weapons. that was kim jong-il, the father he lives in a parallel universe but it was a bounded parallel universe that i think jr. is unhinged and i think he is living -- when he says things like i can destroy the united states, i hope he doesn't really believe that. he is also reckless. anybody who will reach into malaysia to kill his half-brother and by all reports is that rather was under chinese protection, so he is reckless. he's probably a little unhinged and they have made a lot of progress in the last several years on their nuclear programs. a usable nuclear weapon you have to have three outlets. you have to have fuel and they have been harvesting plutonium and uranium for some time. and you have to have a bomb design. when people tell you that it's easy to make a nuclear weapon it actually isn't easy to make a nuclear weapon. the bomb design has to hold material in critical mass until the moment when you want to hit it and exploded so when you read in the newspapers th

the north korean regime poses, as he put it, a big threat to the world. but as far as the red line, as it were, is concerned, mike, he refused to directly answer that question or to define what would constitute a red line as far as the north korean actions are concerned. he said as he has said before that he doesn't choose the telegraph is military intentions in advance. thank you very much for that. both rivals in the french presidential race have traded blows at the start of the final week of campaigning. on sunday, voters will chose between pro—eu candidate emmanuel macron and the far—right candidate marine le pen. in a rally on monday, she characterised him as the establishment candidate. he said he would fight until the last second to make sure she didn't reach office. here is our paris correspondent lucy williamson. the second round of french elections has been the graveyard of far—right dreams of power. used to facing a united front of all her rivals, marine le pen is now calling on voters to unite against someone else, her liberal opponent,

and today in south korea are making this north korean link. we've known for years that kim jong-un's regime had a whole army of crooks talking in a variety of ways, a variety of targets. now as you hinted at, the program code found in this latest malware, ransomware attack, is somewhat similar to other attacks. there was a 2014 attack on sony pictures. but there's other attacks mostly in asia and seem to think the ransom gained in the attacks, $100,000 so far. but the disruption is maximum. in the u.s., they made out pretty well. europe was hit hard. interestingly, china hit very hard. 30,000 institutions were targeted. everything from universities to gas stations. we did hear today beijing officials saying listen, this has to end hinting that north korea has to do something about it. again, the investigation not completely sure that north korea is involved. that's why europol and other investigative bodies are working hard as well as the blame game. microsoft had its vulnerabilities in the soft way. they found ways to counter act that and tak

so this is really irked the north koreans today. they are lashing out about it. >> we know there has been huge reaction here to president trump saying he'd be honored to meet with kim jong-un. what's the reaction over there? >> no reaction at all from the north koreans. they're not talking about it. we know they haven't been open to dialogue, certainly since president trump took office. they fired off a number of missile tests since he took office. no reaction there. the south koreans are actually being pretty quiet, too. no official statement at all from them. this does sort of play into this mindset that picks up steam here, that they're getting confused messages from the administration. yesterday, a lot of the local papers, there's a lot of talk of this, of the risk of trump. the fact that with a he says and what he means may not be the same thing. confused messages. worries about is this a military buildup, a policy of containment and isolation, or is it reaching out to north korea? a confused message on the part of the south ko

as we have agreed at the g7, north korean issue is the priority for the international community. in order to deter north korea, we will take concrete actions together with the united states. we will maintain high vigilance in coordination with south korea and international community and take all possible measures to secure the safety of the people of japan. >> the u.s. national security councille says president donald trump has been briefed about that launch just hours before that, we heard from the u.s. defense secretary on cbs news "face the nation." and he gave a grave message about washington's standoff with pyongyang. listen. >> a conflict in north korea would be probably the worst kind of fighting in most people's lifetimes. why do i say this. the north korean regime has hundreds of artillery cannons and rocket launchers within range of one of the most densely populated cities on earth, which is the capital of south korea. we are working with the international community to deal with this issue, this regime is a threat to the region, to japan, to south korea. and in the even

resources, all things that north koreans need for the lifestyle they enjoy. china has hey lost leverage and north korea doesn't want to become a colony of china. >> china under mounting pressure to do something it has resisted for more than a deck aid, put crippling economic pressure on north korea, a regime that has supported as a strategy buffer between u.s. ally south korea. >> it's interesting a lot of the canned food items you see here come from china. >> reporter: during my 12th visit to pyongyang last month i saw evidence of chinese trade being pumped into the north korean economy even though officials say domestic production is increasing and saying china will have zero influence over the missile development. whatever new sanctions we're likely to face, whatever trade restrictions, we're not afraid said a north korean official given rare authorization to speak with known last month. the latest launch coming as the trump administration deals with massive fallout from the firing of fbi director james comey. north korea's leader choosing a time of politi

-- new south korean president. >> well i think let's start with north korea itself. i think what we are really facing a leader who is becoming increasingly unhinged because he is watching the country becoming isolated in the international system. the trump administration in the first 100 days and beyond has done an amazing job of further isolating north korea by building an international coalition against the country making claim to everyone that it is not just on the korean peninsula, not just for the chinese, not just for the americans but a threat to the entire globe. the congressional bill that passed in the house, the sanctions bill in a very divided congress is remarkable because it was almost unanimous in its support in it's an extremely tough sanctions bill. i think the strikes for the north koreans and the new south korean government that is much more liberal it shows both sides theirs was often the trump administration and in the congress with which he is working. it's a phenomenal period in u.s. foreign policy frankly. tom: is this new leader going to not

ariel: the north korean leader, remaining defiant in the face of pressure. this is the seventh missile test since donald trump took office. lindsey: another week, another family kicked off a flight, and this time, the dispute started over a birthday cake. it happened over the weekend on a jetblue flight at jfk airport. cameron burke said he was asked to move the wedding cake -- the cake from the overhead bin to under his seat. jetblue says he refused several requests to move the cake and yelled at flight attendants. va is denouncing a torch rally held by white nationalists over the weekend in response to the planned removal of confederate statues. saturday night, dozens of all right supporters led by richard spencer rallied around the statue of confederate general robert e lee. many were heard shouting, russia is our friend. the mayor says it's a form of intimidation. we do value diversity, tolerance, difference. that is a source of our strength, a source of our greatness, and we will not stand for this despicable behavior. lindsey: a rally was held last nig

haley also responded to comments yesterday from a senior north korean official that the north might be open to direct talks with president trump under what she called the right conditions. >> having a missile test is not the way to sit down with the president, because he's absolutely not going to do it. and i can tell you, he can sit there and say all the conditions he wants; until he meets our conditions, we're not sitting down with him. >> sreenivasan: the last time the u.s. and north korea engaged in six-party talks about north korea's weapons programs was 2008, and christopher hill led the u.s. delegation. hill was the u.s. ambassador to south korea during the bush administration. he's now the dean of the josef korbel school of international studies at the university of denver and joins me now from colorado springs. of all, are you surprised that just days after south korea elects a president, north korea does this? >> i'm really not surprised. i mean frankly this is a military testing program, so we they don't really care what the rest of us think. an even though the new south kor

china definitely has to be stronger against north korea, because the whole north korean economy what's left of it is dependent upon china. >> president trump has projected confidence in china being willing to do more, and he has asserted at least recently that china is doing its part, talking about turning back coal shipments, et cetera, from north korea. the vice president patienmike p said when he was in asia we're going to abandoned the failed policy of strategic patience and he said that north korea is "getting the message." what is it that you want this administration to demand that china do at this point? >> i think that the dialogue and conversation with china has not been as firm as it should be, number one. what does china want? when i was in south korea, there was a lot of dialogue saying that we were talking back and forth, but china wants something, and i don't think that the administration has dealt with what china wants. we need to figure out what that is and have those real conversations in that regards, because china in my estimation from when i was there seems to be us