. >> did days he or mrs. nesbitt ever meet?. >> i did up when the record of that. f i don't know. sole there were a few tussles but that was thefo plain old los issue is:a short time after that. after that alonzo becomes me judy -- maitre d. bat was a pivotal event over a stick of butter you would think of the first lady wants something she would get it. e >> so the position of the chief executive chef do they carry over?. >> mike every betty else they serve up the pleasure of the president sone typically the white house kitchen at -- kitchen normally the executive chef for the pastry chef but what has happened the president can decide whose staffs the kitchen most decide to carry over but they may bring in in an additional cut for the family because jacqueline kennedy created a second-floor kitchen and dining space she turned margaret truman's bedroom into a small kitchen and pantry so now there is a dining space on the second floor so lyndon johnson was the last president to have a second cut for the family most have the chief executive chef do everything >> including making rec

the first lady, mrs. truman wanted a stick of butter and mrs. nesbitt refused to give it to her. which is interesting, so they had a few tussles before that but i think that was the final blow. she was gone a short time after that that's a great question because after that alonzo feels was a long time butler became maÎtre d' and another guy was maÎtre d' and field starts to get prominence in the white house and eventually he becomes maÎtre d' later. that was a pivotal event over a stick of butter. at the first lady want something she should get a but that doesn't always happen. >> the position of the chief executive chef, these tenured appointments or do they carry over from administration to administration? >> like everyone else they serve at the pleasure of the president. so typically the white house kitchen if there's going to be changes usually the chief of the executive chef and maybe the pastry chef. when a president comes in they can decide who to staff the kitchen. most presidents decide to carry over the previous cook but they might bring an additional cook to make me