melinda: tony patterson, european leaders are meeting at this very moment as we speak. and later on, they are going to be hearing teresa may talk about her strategy for brexit. if we look back one year at the time of the brexit referendum, many people thought it was the death knell of the european union. things do look rather different today. in fact, in his invitation letter for this, e.u. council president donald tusk said people are beginning to see europe once again as the solution and not the problem. would you say that the e.u. nonetheless has gotten its mojo back? >> yeah. i would. i would say that we've had donald trump and we've had brexit. these things concentrate the mind wonderfully when you got these exterior threats. and make people think very hard and of course la pen. make people think very hard about what europe means to them. and we've seen this movement or -- all across europe. that sprung up on sunday demonstrations. people are actually begun to think much more seriously about europe and what they want out of it. and that's a good thing. melinda: but

melinda: tony patterson, european leaders are meeting at this very moment as we speak. and later on, they are going to be hearing teresa may talk about her strategy for brexit. if we look back one year at the time of the brexit referendum, many people thought it was the death knell of the european union. things do look rather different today. in fact, in his invitation letter for this, e.u. council president donald tusk said people are beginning to see europe once again as the solution and not the problem. would you say that the e.u. nonetheless has gotten its mojo back? >> yeah. i would. i would say that we've had donald trump and we've had brexit. these things concentrate the mind wonderfully when you got these exterior threats. and make people think very hard and of course la pen. make peoplple think very hard about what europe means to them. and we've seen this movement or -- all across europe. that sprung up on sunday demonstrations. people are actually begun to think much more seriously about europe and what they want out of it. and that's a good thing. melinda: b