about the fbi. based on some of the testimony that this committee and others have heard in the past, not today. here's what i'm looking for. i want you to be apolitical. i don't want you to exhaust yourself trying to make political friends up here. i want you to be socrates. i want you to be dirty harry with the bad guys, and i want you to tell me how you're going to do that in this environment. >> well senator, first let me say that i have, i think a heightened appreciation for the point that you're making about the power of the fbi and what you said about the fbi's ability to ruin people's lives. one of the things that i did even as head of the criminal division was i tried to meet with every new hire, we're talking about over 400 lawyers, every time we had a new hire, i would spend 10-15 minutes with that person and one of the points i would try to make is that the decisions that that prosecutor would make, and the same thing would be true, obviously for fbi agents in spades, short of their weddi

at the fbi of the mission. in conclusion, i pledge to be the leader that the fbi deserves and to lead an independent bureau that will make every american proud. thank you, mr. chairman, senator feinstein. i look forward to answering the committee's questions. >> before my first ten minute starts we'll have ten-minute rounds just in case somebody came late and didn't hear what i had said about that. two votes scheduled at 12:30. i asked if she thought we could get done by 12:30 and she said, we hope so, but, obviously, we'll let people go as long on their questions as they want to. but i would ask people to think in terms of people chairing the committee so we don't lose a whole 45 minutes while we're having votes. so, think that in mind. my first series of questions are going to seem maybe very softball and they probably are softball. but i think they're very important to every member of this committee, particularly when they have an administration that says that democrats can't get answers to their questions w

at the fbi oversight hearing on may 3, i said that a cloud of doubt hangs over the fbi's objectivity. the previous director james comey said that the people of the fbi don't give a rip about politics but mr. comey installed as his deputy director a man who's wife ran for the have a state senate and accepted almost a million dollars from the virginia governor political machine. that's a lot of money for one state senate seats. governor mccough luf say long time friend and fund raiser for the clintons and democratic party. deputy director andrew mccabe meant in personal with the governor about his wife's political plans. his official fbi biographic was used in setting up the meeting and the goal was for the governor to close the deal and get his wife to run for office. the office of special counsel is reviewing whether that coordination was a violation which prohibits -- the inspector general is reviewing whether mr. mccabe should have been reviewed from the clinton investigation based upon mr. mccabe's financial ties to the clinton political network. mr. mccabe was also named in a sex

calling the acting director of the fbi corrupt, firing the director of the fbi, insisting that the fbi must report directly to the president. raising the prospect that this attorney general was wrong to recuse himself of an fbi investigation into a campaign he was involved in. pressuring to the point where nobody would be surprised if he tried to get rid of that recusal. and now launching this counternarrative that the whole vismt investigation is fruit of a poison treat. that the fbi-russia investigation is itself a russian plot. all of these different attacks all happening simultaneously, all attacking and trying to undermine and discredit the federal bureau of investigation, while they investigate this president. what is the fbi going to do about that? i have just the guy to ask. he's here next. ...it starts a chain reaction... ...that's heard throughout the connected business world. at&t network security helps protect business, from the largest financial markets to the smallest transactions, by sensing cyber-attacks in near real time and automatically deploying countermeasures. kee

at the fbi from the mission. in conclusion, i pledge to be the leader that the fbi deserves and to lead an independent bureau that will make every american proud. thank you, mr. chairman, senator feinstein. i look forward to answering the committee's questions. >> before my first ten-minute start, we're going to have ten-minute rounds, just in case nobody -- came late and didn't hear what i said about that. there are two votes scheduled at 12:30. senator feinstein and i had a short conversation before the meeting. i asked if she thought we could get done by 12:30. she said, we hope so. but obviously, we're going to let people go as long on their questions as they want to. but i would ask people to think in terms of people chairing the committee so we don't lose a whole 45 minutes while we're having votes. so think that in mind. my first series of questions are going to seem maybe very softball. and they probably are softball. but i think that they're very important to every member of this committee, particularly

any fbi director needs to effectively lead the fbi national security mission. so to that effect, please explain how you have the relevant background, skills, knowledge and experience necessary to lead the fbi inty combating national security threats, particularly in the area of counterintelligencend and counterterrorism. >> mr. chairman, most of my four years in the leadership of the department both as associate debbie general and assistant attorney general in criminal division were focused on those issues, counterterrorism and counterespionage. importantly, during that time, before 2005 or 2006 both the counterterrorism section and the counterespionage system were part of the criminalization.we my oversight responsibilities in the criminal division itself and to some extent as associate deputy general focus on the criminal division and those sections were particularly high priority. well over 50% of my time in those four years was focused on these very kinds of issues. >> thank you. now i want to go, this will probably be my last question for my ten minutes. t

what is the fbi's role? >> the fbi probably has multiple roles, a criminal investigative role and there are ways in which the criminal investigative tools can be used to prevent, detect, disrupt threats. but it also has an intelligence role, where it partners with our partners in the intelligence committee and our overseas partners in trying to defend our systems and our infrastructure from attacks. it just a slightly different kind of role, and the two things work hand-in-hand. i would think that there is an analogy that could be drawn to the terrorism arena in terms of awareness, i remember listening to a prominent counterterrorism expert in a room full of prosecutors from all around the world, it was a very jovial meeting until this guy got up and spoke. he said there are two types of countries, those who have been hit by a terrorist attack and get it and there are those who have not yet. you could have heard a pin drop. it certainly caught a lot of joy out of the room. i think there is a degree to which

what is the fbi's role? >> i think the fbi probably has multiple roles. it has a criminal investigative role when there are ways in which the criminal investigative tools can be used to prevent, detect, disrupt threats, but then it also has an intelligence role, where it partners with our partners in the intelligence community, and our oversees partners in trying to defend our systems and our infrastructure from attacks. which is a slightly different kind of role. the two things work hand in hand. and i would think that there's an analogy that could be drawn to the terrorism arena, in terms of awareness. i remember listening to a prominent counterterrorism expert in a room full of prosecutors, from all around the world, and it was a very jovial meeting until this guy got up and spoke. he said there are two types of countries. there are those who have been hit by terrorist attacks and get it, and there are those who have not yet. and then you could have heard a pin drop. because it certainly cut a lot of the joy out of the room. i think there is a degree t

as well as for the fbi. i described judge bell then as a man noted for his quick mind, his candor, integrity and his independence. years later in may 2003, judge bell contacted me. i was out of the senate at that stage. praising christopher wray as a rising star. he suggested that i recommend him to my former senate colleagues as a terrific choice to be confirmed to head the criminal division of the department of justice. since that time i followed his career in and out of government. can i have satisfied myself fully to my support for christopher in 2003 was well-placed. i can assure this committee that chris embodies the same trades that enabled griffin bell to rebuild public companies in the department of justice, quickness of mind, candor, integrity and independence. a couple of questions. what is the basis of my confidence in chris? senator feinstein, hope to address some of your questions and answering that question that i posed. from his service as assistant united states attorney in atlanta in 1997.

he eventually did comply and said the fbi would want to know, so people should call the fbi if they get such approaches. my sense is that he was reluctant to take on the white house directly in the course of an ongoing investigation. this is all under investigation by the special counsel. host: if he is confirmed as fbi director, what kind of contact will he have with bob mueller and the special counsel? guest: he promised yesterday to meet with bob mueller, who he has known for a long time and has a great deal of rec for, to make sure that mueller has all the resources he needs. there was a point of controversy earlier this year about whether the russia investigation was fully resourced. he said he would talk to all or and make sure he needs -- to robert mueller and make sure he gets everything he needs to do the job right. host: let's go to our republican color -- caller. caller: it is a very dangerous tool, the fbi is. $550 million. they took all the electronic equipment. how come hillary did not go to them? they came with guns drawn and everybody is there and they itfiscated the woo

as the fbi director?. >> i don't know enough about the specifics but i would say that my commitment on these issues that is faithful to the law and constitution so in response to ruth senator ben is that we need the cooperation of the muslim american in the community and those that did it has been obtained so the fbi director needs to be the fbi director for all americans. >> so to raise some concerns this is a foundation of religious freedom with racial profiling. so as fbi director you would be sensitive about moving forward on any type of program to treat different groups in a discriminatory way?. >> discrimination is abhorrent not something you would condone our what you pay close attention if it would raise those types of concerns is the issue with religious freedom one of the cases that was more meaningful than i have ever done was a case where churches all around the country were burned down over a particular religion. >> i am over my time. saw your firm has represented individuals with energy inter

an fbi agent who was a key fbi interrogator, testified to us about the contrast between the fbi's techniques and the enhanced interrogation techniques used by the cia during the bush administration. he testified that these enhanced techniques were operationally ineffective and unreliable. and harmful to counterterrorism. we learned that bob mueller ended the fbi's participation in the interrogation of other cia detainees. because of the harsh torture methods they used. and because they were undermining the investigation. he pulled his people out. this is important because the issue of interrogation techniques isn't just something of the past. trump said that torture works, and he would immediately bring back waterboarding and much worse. so i'm interested in knowing more about the nominees knowledge for the cia's use of torture during the bush administration and knowledge of detainee abuse in iraq. the cia's use of torture are a stain on our nation's values and history. the senate intelligence committees torture report was issued in 2014 when i was chairman of that committee. it all lined th

>> i would say what i was saying just a a minute ago which is the fbi director and the fbi needs to be for all americans, including muslim americans and my experience and terrorism investigation have been some of the best leaves we ever got word from members of that community come up from muslim americans. i remember having conversations with, among others, u.s. attorney from your state, pat fitzgerald who is a friend of mine. well certainly we do face threats from certain radical ideologies, it is also true that those americans, just like all americans are people that we need to get information from, to help protect the homeland. >> thank you, mr. chairman. >> congratulations to you and your family on this nomination. i appreciate your willingness to come back to public service at a time when i think the nation's confidence and its institutions has been shaken. i think it's very important to have somebody of your character, and experience serve as the next director because i think about confidence in the fbi has been shaken over recent events. i ask you when we met in my office about

of the fbi. >> you kind of answered the question, when should the fbi director unilaterally take over the role of attorney general of the united states? and i read your answer to be never. but let's say you're presented in a situation in which you don't have confidence in the attorney general in a particular matter because of a conflict of interest, perception issues, whatever reason it is that you have lost confidence in the attorney general on that matter. what, then, if you're not going to unilaterally take over the role of attorney general and hold your own press conferences and make your announcements as if you were the attorney general, what would plan b be? who do you go to, the attorney general anyway, even though you lost confidence? do you try to work something out? what would be the proper way to face that problem in the department of justice? >> senator, as you know from your own time as u.s. attorney, i think the deputy attorney general is the proper place to go in that scenario. >>

the director of the fbi, insisting that the fbi must report directly to the president. raising the prospect that this attorney general was wrong to recuse himself of an fbi investigation into a campaign he was involved in. pressuring him to the point where nobody would be surprised if he tried to get rid of that recusa recusal. and now launching a counter narrative that the whole fbi investigation is fruit of a poisoned true. that the fbi investigation is itself a russian plot. all of these attacking all attacking and trying to undermine and discredit the federal bureau of investigation while they investigate this president. what is if fbi going to do about that? i have just the guy to ask. he's here next. oro. ♪go your own way copd tries to say, "go this way." i say, "i'll go my own way" with anoro. ♪go your own way once-daily anoro contains two medicines called bronchodilators, that work together to significantly improve lung function all day and all night. anoro is not for asthma . it contains a type of medicine that increases risk of death in people with asthma.

at the fbi from the mission. in conclusion, i pledge to be the leader that the fbi deserves and to lead an independent bureau that will make every american proud. thank you, mr. chairman, senator feinstein, i look forward to answering the committee's questions. >> my first series of questions are going to seem maybe very softball. and they probably are softball, but i think that they're very important to every member of this committee, particularly when they have an administration that says democrats can't get answers to their questions when they do their oversight work, or even 30 republicans that aren't chairman of the committees they can't get answers to their questions and things like the role of whistleblowers, that may not sound like the stuff that is basic to your job, but it's basic to the constitutional principle we have as separation of powers and the constitutional role of congress. so the first one we've heard a lot about the need for an fbi to show independence. you just heard what senator feinstein

i think the fbi has an important rule. one of the most moving cases to me as a line prosecutor was a different kind of hate crime with a serial church arsonist who went all over the country burning down churches and ultimately, one of the churches he burned killed a volunteer firefighter. i think i mentioned that meeting with the mother of the dead firefighter and the roughly 7-year-old daughter of the dead firefighter is a memory i will take with me forever. i've a personal appreciation for the importance of prosecuting those crimes. >> very good. if we have a second round, i will ask about human trafficking which is one of my top priorities. i have one other question about terrorists online recruiting. we had a number of instances of that in minnesota and our former u.s. attorney. i've met with the fbi in minnesota on this issue, they've showed me some of the internet targeting that's really designed to focus on people in our state because of the major somali population that we are so proud of the minnesota. could you el

comey at the top of the fbi. we'll be talking about this and watching this hearing all day. senate judiciary committee, you see the camera crews and still photographers and reporters awaiting his arrival at the witness table. kasie hunt is on capitol hill for us, part of our huge group of correspondents and analysts to cover this story today. she will lead us off for this part of our coverage. kasie, set the stakes for everything we'll be seeing today. >> well, brian, i think the stakes really are centered around everything we've been talking about, about donald trump jr., the latest news about his meeting with this russian lawyer, his knowledge that they wanted to talk about hillary clinton, saying that he would love that, and that really sets the stage for the scene here where you're going to have an fbi director nominee who is pressed repeatedly about the president, who of course as we know has been almost in hiding the last couple of days, not holding public events. this is a post where he had asked the previ

. >> should i call the fbi? >> i think it would be wise to let the fbi -- >> you are going to be the director of the fbi. here is what i want you to tell every politician. if you get a call from somebody suggesting that a foreign government wants to help you by disparaging your opponent, tell us all to call the fbi. >> to the members of this committee, any threat or effort to interfere with our elections from any nation state or any non-state actor is the kind of thing the fbi would want to know. >> i will take that we should call you. that's a great answer. now this is what don junior said saturday before the e-mail came out. if i can find it here. this is his statement. about what i just read to you. it was a short introduction te meeting. we discuss aid program about the adoption of russian children. that was active and popular with american families and was ended but is not a campaign issue at that time and there was no follow-up. i was asked to attend the meeting by an acquaintance but was not told the name

>> i would say i think the fbi director and the fbi needs to be -- the fbi and fbi director for all americans including muslim americans and the -- my experience in terrorism investigations has been that some of the best leads we ever got, were from members of that community, from muslim americans. i remember having conversations with that with among others, u.s. attorney from your state, pat fitzgerald, a friend of mine. while certainly we do face threats from certain radical ideologies when turn to violence and it is also true that those americans just like all americans are people we need to get information from to help protect the homeland. >> thank you, mr. chairman. >> congratulations to you and your family on this nomination. i appreciate your willingness to come back in the public service at a time when i think the nation's confidence in its public institutions is -- has been shaken. and i think it's very important to have somebody of your character and background and experience serve as the next fbi director because i think public confidence in the fbi has been shaken over recent eve

what is the fbi's role? >> well, i think the fbi probably has multiple roles. it has a criminal investigative role when there are ways in which the criminal investigative tools can be used to prevent, detect, disrupt threats. but then it also has an intelligence role, where it partners with our partners in the intelligence community and our overseas partners in trying to defend our systems and our infrastructure from attacks, which is a slightly different kind of role. and the two things work hand-in-hand. and i would think that there's an analogy that could be drawn to the terrorism arena in terms of awareness. i remember listening to a prominent counterterrorism expert in a room full of prosecutors from all around the world. and it was a very jovial meeting until this guy got up and spoke. and he said, there are two types of countries. there are those who have been hit by terrorist attack and get it. and there are those who have not yet. and then you could have heard a pin drop. because it certainly cut a lot of the joy out of the room. and i think there is a

i met with the fbi in minnesota on this issue. they showed me some of the internet targeting that is really designed to focus on people in our state because of the major somali population that we're so proud of in minnesota. and could you elaborate on this threat and what you believe the fbi should be doing to counter these types of online recruiting efforts that are going on around the country? >> well, senator, i think i need to get briefed up on the fbi's efforts in that area, especially the developments and technology. but my basic view is similar to my answer to senator feinstein, which was that we have to get earlier in the continuum to prevent plots. and that is recruitment, that is logistical planning that is fund-raising to your question about financing, there is a whole range of things that terrorist organizations do early on in the continuation. plots don't happen overnight. they take a time to germinate. we need to be in a position where we find them early and stop them early. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> b

should have done was call the fbi. he said yes, i have no reason to believe that russia didn't meddle in the election, he said at the end, no, i don't think it's a witch hunt. as the president said again even today to be investigating this. >> it just sort of underscores how isolated this president and his team, his own nominee for fbi, he answered every single question in a way that was at odds with what the white house and their top people have either said or done. so i do think that we obviously -- i don't think there was a lot of question that that's how he was going to answer these questions, a professional law enforcement official is going to answer those questions the way he did, and i think he'll be easily confirmed, i think that's pretty clear after this hearing. but the more important thing is less about wray and more about where this leaves president trump, essentially by himself, and with every allegation just lashing out at the media. >> i have two takeaways both along the same point here. i agree with lau

so i go to you as fbi to-be. one of your key responsibilities will be overseeing investigations into threats to national security, your predecessor repeatedly affirmed his support for 702 as a national security tool. so will you tell us whether section 702 will remain important to you under your leadership and also whether the fbi under your leadership will make sure that it using this national security authority with proper training, execution and oversight to comply with the law and protect the fourth amendment rights? >> well, senator, it's been a number of years since i had anything to do with fisa, although i did deal with it a certain amount when i was with the government before. and section 702 was passed after i left government. but from everything i understand from the people in the intelligence community, 702 is a vital tool and one that we need to put at high priority and one that i would expect to place a high priority to seeking reauthorization on. my answer to the second part of your question is tha

>> i'd say immediately call the fbi. what bothers me probably most about junior's responses that there was no instinct that there was something wrong about this. you don't need to be an authority on federal election law to have an instinct that, wait, there's something wrong with my meeting are russians who may or may not be corrected to the kremlin who are talking about bringing in dirt on mrs. clinton. it's just the wrong instringt. >> robert deets, jennifer rogers. i think we're going to have to lee it there. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> up next, more on today's confirms hearing for president trump's pick to replace fired fbi director james comey. we'll talk to someone who personally knows chris way and get her take on how wray would handle the job. stay tuned. there's nothing more important to me than my vacation. so when i need to book a hotel room, i want someone that makes it easy to find what i want. booking.com gets it. and with their price match, i know i'm getting the best price every time. now i can st

as fbi director at senate confirmation hearing. in fact i wondered today why the president had even bothered with this obviously clubby self-important justice department official. president trump nominated him on june 7th, and praised him as quote a man of impeccable credentials. wray did not turn the compliment in any fashion. serving as the unctuous civil servant poodle and seeking favor as he is. testifying before the senate judiciary committee, he refused to pledge loyalty to the president and he rejected the president trump assertion that the mueller special counsel investigation is witch-hunt. which means he is another problem in the capital with already with them. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge with our report. reporter: fbi director nominee christopher wray told the senate judiciary committee there is no room for political interference. >> what is your view of the fbi generally but more importantly you as director head up that organization? >> i believe to my core that there is only one right way to do

so all of this is now one reason why the fbi is going to take a look at all of this, the fbi investigators that are working with robert mueller's team. it should be noted that the fbi has in the past year taken a look at don jr.'s finances, his associations as part of the broader look at whether or not there was any collusion or whether or not there was any ties to russia that crossed over into criminal territory. obviously that is something that has been going on now for about a year. >> donald trump jr. released the e-mail chain only after he was notified by the "new york times" that they had it and they were about to publish it so he decided to release it before it was published by the "new york times." >> exactly. >> let's get back to senator blumenthal. the fbi only recently learned about this meeting with the russian lawyer. are there other meetings that investigators have not yet uncovered? >> i believe very strongly, wolf, that there are a trove of additional e-mails bearing on criminal intent, on the substantive criminal actions that may well have taken place, and the reports that

when the fbi runs a u.s. person identifier through our database, that query is run only against fbi 702 collection that's obtained. during fbi full investigations and not the total collection maintained by the nsa. the intelligence community and fbi utilize section 702 -- after those communications are collected they're retained in our database and are available for authorized fbi agents and analysts to subsequently query. later, when a tip or lead suggests that a u.s. person located here may pose a threat, one of the best investigative steps is to search existing collection to determine what kind of threat we're dealing with. this is what helps us connect the dots. finally i'm aware that some critics of the 702 collection program have suggested that the fbi should obtain a warrant before querying a u.s. person identifier against our 702 collection. imposing a warrant would severely hamper our operations by creating a barrier between the fbi and threat information that is already in our possession. this is in

and she did, she and jack both knew they were under surveillance by the fbi. the family was trying hard to keep up with their relationship as was inga's husband. and so finally, the pressure was too much and jack kennedy said they would have to end the relationship and inga was heartbroken. jack kennedy called up and said see, we should get together this weekend and she said wait a minute, you make clear that we have no future and if romance is not an option, i love you, i'll always care about you but we're done . so jack kennedy , he couldn't say no for an answer so over the next seven years he would try to rekindle the relationship and tried to get the romance going and inga was glad to see him but she said no. it's time for us to move on. they had one final assignation right after he was elected to congress in november 1946 and inga was at an odd place so they had one more romantic interlude and then didn't talk to each other again. jack went on, he went into congress, inga mary for a third time and so their lives diverge. they thought about each other a gr

me, for the fbi director job. in the president's words, he was up here, and he wanted the job. after he was named special counsel, i said, what the hell is this all about? talk about conflicts. but he was interviewing for the job. there were many other conflicts that i haven't said, but i will at some point. >> well, that sounds a lot to me like saying that the last director of the fbi should be concerned and hope that there are not tapes, which we later learned there were not tapes. what i can tell you for sure is that the department of justice and the federal bureau of investigation have outstanding ethics officials. they're career officials who know what they're doing. they've put their time in. they're experts, and they take the time to consult with the office of government ethics. so we know a lot about the capabilities of those ethics officers, and i can tell you i am very confident in saying that there are not conflicts of interest going unaddressed by these ethics offices. >> so you're saying in the case o

i think the fbi would want to collect that information and pursue that. >> ron hosco, former fbi assistant director. good to see you. >> you too. >> what about jared kushner, the president's son-in-law, under fire for failing to report that meeting under his security clearance forms. he has updated the forms but is that enough. could he lose his clearance? ♪ me to the moon (elegant music) ♪ and let me play (bell rings) for over 100 yearsaking like kraft has,al cheese you learn a lot about people's tastes. honey, what do you want for dinner tonight? oh whatever you're making. triple cheddar stuffed sliders. sold! >>> pump saying he only found out about the secret meeting a couple days ago. so much focus on donald trump jr. >> it became pretty apparent to jared and paul. >> you remember that. >> we were all there. the whole contact too how long? >> about 20 minutes. and he left after five or ten? >> so jared kushner we know was there. why wasn't that disclosed initially and is this a pattern? because each day she chooses to take the stairs. at work, at home... even on the escalator. that

he publicly attacks the acting fbi director, having fired the real fbi director. and he attacks the special counsel who is responsible for the russia investigation, and not merely him, but the career and staff level members of his team k. and so,up, under those circumstances i think you really have to ask what is the mechanism by which who is going to defend the integrity of federal law enforcement. it's not going to be the attorney general. it's not really going to be the deputy attorney general. the special counsel can't do it because it would be inappropriate for him to talk about things in public. the acting fbi director is just an acting -- he's been really kour ages and he's been a first-rate individual, but he's just the acting fbi director. so who is it, who is supposed to speak for federal law enforcement and for the integrity of the men and women who carry out our laws every day? >> ben, you're really close with james comey. there was an interesting portion of the new york times interview where it seems like are the president is saying that james comey w

i think we're going to have a great new fbi director. this suggests to me, at least in this written transcript that's just been reported by "the new york times," that the president is suggesting that the fbi and the department of justice be reorganized so that the fbi becomes an executive agency under him. is that what it sounds like to you? >> it's a really troubling thing to say. not surprisingly he has the facts wrong, the history's wrong, the fbi is part of the justice department, that didn't change after watergate. what did change after watergate because of the way the president was meddling in the investigations is the justice department promulgated new rules by which the justice department would not contact the president about ongoing investigations, and the president wouldn't contact the justice department and interfere. it seemed to be those rules that i suspect the president is really pushing back against, and really feels constrained by. it seems -- look, he wanted jim comey to operate as if he operated to him, to be loyal to

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he's still out there. >> this photo shows fbi agents in new jersey. two of the suspects live here apparently with their two young daughters. >> we had no idea. they just seem like a nice quiet family. >> this is just a throwback to sort of i spy and james bond. >> all of the couples were held within the various difference correctional facilities in boston, new york and washington. >> the question then became, would this be in the tradition of spying an opportunity to trade. why not use them as chips in order to be able to get back some people who had actually been willing to put their live nz ot line to do their job of spying. it was an interesting opportunity for a director of the cia particularly somebody who kind of you know loved spy movies and was thinking about it. and i thought for god's sakes, i'm now in the middle of what would be a great movie about the effort to try to trade for spies. >> one of the biggest questions that we had was whether or not the russian federation would acknowledge that they are in fact russians. >> i got on the phone

you have the acting director of the fbi. andrew mccabe who took over when comey was pushed out and was fired. he is under investigation for from the doj, and the money his wife got and special council for violation of the hatch act. >> lou: they are not only connikts of investigation but investigations of fbi comey's and his judgment and failure to act seems to be reasonably appropriate. sarah carter, great reporting and we appreciate you being here. >> thank you, lou. >> lou: up next, a report on north carolina terrorism and a harrowing look in his newest book. ro get gleson talks about the new book and "into the >> lou: in our on line poll, we asked do you believe that majority mccon and speaker ryan are capable of delivering a health care victory for president trump. 69 percent of you say no they are not. and the odds seem to be supporting your vote. we'll see how it unfolds. a good test will be the next 48 hours. a new thriller to tell you tonight. warning of an impending nuclear holocaust and it is entitled "and into th

you have the acting director of the fbi. andrew mccabe who took over when comey was pushed out and was fired. he is under investigation for from the doj, and the money his wife got and special council for violation of the hatch act. >> lou: they are not only connikts of investigation but investigations of fbi comey's and his judgment and failure to act seems to be reasonably appropriate. sarah carter, great reporting and we appreciate you being here. >> thank you, lou. >> lou: up next, a report on north carolina terrorism and a harrowing look in his newest book. ro get gleson talks about the new book and "into the [vo] when it comes to investing, looking from a fresh perspective can make all the difference. it can provide what we call an unlock: a realization that often reveals a better path forward. at wells fargo, it's our expertise in finding this kind of insight that has lead us to become one of the largest investment and wealth management firms in the country. discover how we can help find your unlock. introducing the n

the fbi director is an inferior officer in the executive branch. that means when hoover investigated martin luther king. would it be improper for the president kentucky to say don't do that. >> lou: that is the system and reality of the matter that the fbi director may not want to have dipper with the president but that is not his choice. he may have other choices. he worked for the president and attorney general. >> what the democrats want is to create a situation where the fbi director is told to go to war with the administration torg show your independence and that is not the proper role either. you follow the law and don't try to line yourself against the president to impress the party and media. >> lou: i think the senate judiciary has respect for christopher ray. he turned over the meeting to the democratic party as if they were in leadership. that was an awful mistake. >> thanks for having me. >> lou: it is about time senate gop leaders unveil a health care bill. >> keeps the obamacare subsidies and creates a giant fund. >> lou: i take that

he was nominated by the president to lead the fbi. he was a hi ranking official in george w bush justice department and later represented new jersey governor constitutes yes, it is in bridgegate >> we're following the latest developments in the russia investigation. donald trump junior spoke to fox and wanted to clear the air over the controversy surrounding that meeting last summer with the russian lawyer. >> in retrospect i would have done things differently. again this is before the russia mania, this was opposition research they had something, you know, maybe a concrete evidence to all the stories i had been hearing about that years, not just during the campaign. so i think i wanted to hear it out. really, it went nowhere and it was apparently that's not what the meeting was about >> donald trump junior said he never told his father about the meeting and today, in an interview with router's president trump said he didn't know until just a couple of days ago. he defended his son decision to take the meeting. he thinks many people w

you have the acting director of the fbi. andrew mccabe who took over when comey was pushed out and was fired. he is under investigation for from the doj, and the money his wife got and special council for violation of the hatch act. >> lou: they are not only connikts of investigation but investigations of fbi comey's and his judgment and failure to act seems to be reasonably appropriate. sarah carter, great reporting and we appreciate you being here. >> thank you, lou. >> lou: up next, a report on north carolina terrorism and a harrowing look in his newest book. ro get gleson talks about the new book and "into the i was wondering if an electric toothbrush really cleans... ...better than a manual, and my hygienist says it does. but... ...they're not all the same. turns out, they're really... ...different. who knew? i had no idea. so, she said look for... ...one that's shaped like a dental tool with a round... ...brush head. go pro with oral-b. oral-b's rounded brush head surrounds each tooth to... ...gently remove more plaque

or for that matter, any other political interference into the fbi. having a strong, independent fbi that maintains those its law enforcement mission and counterintelligence mission, free of political interference from white house or the president himself is absolutely critical. i think he gave that public assurance yesterday and i believe he gave that private insurance today. on top of that, it is very important that we continue a good working relationship with the fbi because there will be asormation that we will need a congressional investigation continues, and i believe we will have that working relationship. >> what is next in the russia investigation? are you interviewing witnesses? >> matter how may times you ask, i'm not going to get into the specifics of when we will see , but weecific witnesses are just now starting to interview those individuals who are affiliated with the trump campaign that may or may not have had contact with russians. the one thing we do know is that we have a repeated pattern, election,ith the the transition and into t

of the fbi. —— selfless patriotism. distract the selfless patriotism of the fbi. -- selfless patriotism. my first series of questions are going to seem maybe very soft ball, and they probably are. but i think that they probably are. but i think that they are very important to every member of this committee, particularly when they have an administration that says democrats can't get answers to the questions when they do their oversight work or even the republicans are on chairman of committees, they can't get a nswe rs of committees, they can't get a nswers to of committees, they can't get answers to their questions. and things like the roles of was a blowers, there may not sound things that are basically your job, blowers, there may not sound things that are basically yourjob, but it is basic to the cost at usual principle that we have, the separation of powers and the constitutional role of congress. so the first one, we've has a lot about the first one, we've has a lot about the need for the fbi to show independence. the senatorjoe spoke of that. and also for the fbi to make decisions