but money isn't the only nato issue. forged in a phaumonochrome worl nato must transform into a more agile nation, and we need faster decision making and less bureaucracy in the way nato works. we also want to see nato adopting a 360-degree approach, producing a coherent force capable of meaningful action with a modern integrated approach to defense and detearance. now, our global influence as a country doesn't just come from nato, it comes also from a wealth of bilateral alliances. last week we took a significant step forward by expanding the uk-led skwroeujoint force to in sweden and finland. that gives us a nine-nation armed force of like-minded northern european countries able to deploy a force of up to 10,000 personnel. augmenting our ability to respond to threats in the north sea and the north atlantic, and also giving us the adaptability and agility to deploy very quickly to humanitarian tasks, to rescue our citizens from crisis hot spots to, conduct more minor military missions. and we have recently used our purc

certainly we need to know that nato is exercising, nato is ready. on the cyber front i think it's important to think about cyber ops and whether nato can build not just an early warning, and we have the cyber center in estonia, we need an operational capability. it's time to take much more seriously this cyber threat. we saw cyber security was something that required an article 4 consultation. but i would argue that given the potential ramifications, the potential impact of a cyber operation you could get quickly to article 5 and nato can't be sitting there wringing its hands in the military capability certainly. then we need to think about things less tactical or operational. we mentioned before the transparent si. i think the best thing we can do is broaden the discussion and bring it out of the transatlantic and osc and talk to the chinese and the indians because what the russians are doing has implications for them as well -- excuse my phone i think that was all the twitter feed. the inf treaty, you know, we have been kind of silent now, our gov

first of all, obviously directed towards nato, a message towards nato. we're ready, you know, don't try anything and very strong message. there's also a message to the russian domestic population that nato's adversary, the west is the adversary, we're ready, we're a great nation so that the patriotic element is there as well. as i mentioned, we still have a lot of questions about russia's significance, whether russia is indeed in an adversarial posture with us, whether russia is a declining power so therefore this doesn't matter. these questions are still out there being discussed unfortunately in the political arenas. so russia will take advantage. they always like this kind of ambiguity anyway with a big wink because they want us to know they're capable and powerful and look what they did with their cyber intrusion in the u.s. elections. but they don't really want to take full accountability because they want those for whom it's convenient to align with them or at least not oppose them to be able to do so. >> building off that kind of, the level of con

we are focused on a number of key issues including nato's maritime domain, cyber threats, and nato-eu cooperation. iner the rubric of security northern europe, we have conducted a range of activities, including wargames. we have led fact-finding delegations to the region and published results oriented research and policy recommendations. ax weeks ago, we hosted high-profile conference in northern europe, which featured all of the baltic defense ministers and leading american voices. this panel discussion is really the start of our work. this withturn to outcomes of the exercise and we will also watch it closely using our capabilities and digital forensics lab some of which has previously tracked in the you came -- ukraine in syria and used visual tools to uncover important effects from the ground that are sometimes easy to miss for a policy audience. toe of the work related today can be picked up outside of this room. none of this work would've been possible without our close partnership with estonia's minister of defense. thank you very much to you and the ministry for working very c

, within nato. but i would say everything is there to be able to cooperate and talk about whatever is on the table, and that is being done. >> we have time for one or two more. the woman in the white shirt -- black shirt -- sorry, can't see you. the woman right here. [laughter] >> what chance is there that the kremlin would leave behind -- , indiscernible] >> go ahead. >> stand up and we'll do a twofer. >> alex riten with the state department. in your opening statements you specifically mentioned broadening efforts to return russia to compliance by including china and india outside the osb framework. i'm wondering if you can elaborate more on how you see that happening. >> on belarus i would say it's not zero and then i'll leave it to the military experts. [laughter] >> on broadening, i i don't frankly think i have gone through the modalities of a but i think it is clear that we, nato, by laterally we can make an approach to the chinese government because we certainly in the united date, have an int

nato -- does nato exist to onvent attacks on allete -- any ally? yes. nato has evolved into much more. today's security environment now encompasses a much broader array of challenges, including asymmetric warfare, terrorism by isis, al qaeda, and other extremist elements seek a caliphate. rogue nations such as iran and north korea have developed ballistic missile capabilities and maybe close to developing nuclear weapons, a threat to all the 29 members of the alliance and our partners. russian disinformation campaigns and maligned influence targeting nato allies and partners seek to undermine western democratic institutions and principles and sow disunity in our long transatlantic bonds. in its evolution, many questions are raised. does every country in the alliance meet its commitment? no. improvements are in order. president trump called for a stronger effort from allies not meeting the wales pledge on investment. 20% ofdp on defense, and total defense expenditures on defense modernization. allies need to meet this commitment. we also stand firm on ar

but money isn't the only nato issue. forged in a monachrome world of the cold war, nato must transform itself into a far more agile situation. secretary mattis are working together for faster decision making, better prioritization, and less bureaucracy in the way that nato works. we also want to see nato adopting a 360-degree approach, producing a coherent force capable of meaningful action, with modern integrated approach to defense and to deterrents. playing enhanced role in the fight against international terror. now our global influence as a country doesn't just come from nato. it comes also from a wealth of bilateral alliances. last week we took a significant step forward by expanding the uk-led joint expeditionary force to include sweden and finland. that gives us a nine-nation armed force of like-minded northern european countries able to deploy a force of 10,000 personnel. augmenting ability to respond to threats in the north sea and the north atlantic but also giving us the adaptability and agility to deploy ver

-- within nato. but i would say that everything is there to be able to cooperate and talk about whatever is on the table, and that's being done, yeah. >> i think we have time probably for one or two more. the woman in the white shirt? black shirt. sorry, i can't see you. yes, the woman raising her hand on the left side. >> what chance is there -- what chance is there that the kremlin will decide to leave behind a substantial number of troops in belarus to deter the regime -- [ inaudible ] what it had to do in the past moving closer to the west -- >> yeah, go ahead and stand up. we will do a twofer. >> hi. alex ramutin with arms control verification and compliance at the state department. this panel touched on compliancy measures and their importance of reducing tensions in the region. ms. farkas, you mentioned broadening efforts to return russian to compliance by including china and india outside the osc framework and the vienna document. i'm hoping you can elaborate more on how you see that happenin

fallon: we have seen a resurgence of nato. we've seen a revival of nato. right back from the summit of wales in 2014. a number of nato members begin to increase their defense spending again after years of decline. and we have seen more commit to reach the 2% target. and your president's rhetoric has only been helpful in that. it has helped to encourage those other allies to be clearer about their defense spending. but we have also, since that same summit, seen a revival in nato's deployment. we saw a commitment then to the very high readiness task force. that stood up last year. we commanded this year. i was there in an exercise with them in romania. and we saw several thousand troops from my country, your country, but also from spain, a series of some of the newer members of nato detachments, deploying. that is the major response force of nato ready to deploy. we greeted were solved a year ago. and within a year, we have seen all four battle groups deployed. in the three baltic states and in poland. we have seen a number of member states of nato come toge

first of all, obviously directed towards nato, a message towards nato. what is the intent behind the we'reready, you know, don't try anything and very strong message. there's also a message to the russian domestic population that nato'sadversary, the west is the adversary, we're ready, we're a great nation sothat the patriotic element is there as well. as i mentioned, we still have a lot of questions about russia's significance, whether russia is indeed inan adversarial posture with us, whether russia is a declining power so therefore this doesn't matter. these questions are still out there beingdiscussed unfortunately in the political arenas. so russia will take advantage. they always like this kind of ambiguity anyway with a big wink because they want us to know they're capable and powerful and look what they did with their cyber intrusion in the u.s. elections. but theydon't really want to take full accountability because they want thosefor whom it's convenient to align with them or at least not oppose them to be able to do so. > building off that kin

but also to protect nato. take a 360r nato to degree view of its security. it has been an intense focus on northeast and flank of nato where allies like estonia feel particularly vulnerable. there is concern in the southeast quadrant too. we work more closely together. the fact that norway, britain and the united states are operating the same aircraft gives us huge potential for more collaboration in training, logistics and support. our air crew are training up and we look forward to the first arrival towards the end of this decade. heather: i will finish up the noting as youn by are doing your deployments in the black sea, noting u.s. vessd aircraft have experienced very unprofessional behavior by russian pilots coming within five feet of u.s. aircraft. any special concerns you have as you increase your maritime presence in the black sea and your air patrol role? anything you are concerned about with russian behavior? sec. fallon: we are concerned about russian long-range aviation. the air information region where russian aircraft don't respond and we send

first of all, obviously directed towards nato, a message towards nato. we're ready, you know, don't try anything, a very strong message. the results of a message to the russian to mystic population -- the russian domestic population that nato is an adversary, the west is the adversary, we're ready, we're a great nation so that the patriotic element is there as well. we still have a lot of questions about russia's significance, whether russia is indeed in an adversarial posture with us, whether russia is a declining power so therefore this doesn't matter. these questions are still out there being discussed , unfortunately in the political arenas. so russia will take advantage. they always like this kind of ambiguity anyway. with a wink. they want us to know they're capable and powerful and look what they did with their cyber intrusion in the u.s. elections. but they don't really want to take full accountability because they want those for whom it's convenient to align with them or at least not oppose them to be able to do so. >> building off that kind of,

but money isn't the only nato issue. force in a monochrome world of the cold war, nato must transform itself into a far more agile organization. secretary mattis and i are working together for faster decision-making, better prioritization, and less bureaucracy in the way that nato works. we also want to see nato approach, 360 degree producing a coherent force capable of meaningful action with a modern, integrated approach to defense and deterrence. playing an enhanced role in the fight against international terror. our global influence as a country doesn't just come from nato. it comes also from a wealth of bilateral alliances. week, we took a significant step forward by expanding the u.k.-led joint expeditionary force to include sweden and finland. that gives us a nine nation armed force of like-minded, northern european countries able to deploy a force of up to 10,000 personnel. augmenting our ability to respond to threats in the north sea and the north atlantic, but also having as the adaptability and agility to deplo

permanent representative to nato. nato facing a threat of an increasingly antagonistic russia which has occupied crimea and eastern regions of ukraine, a country once considered a contender for nato membership. they know that both nato itself and the individual member states are members of the u.s. led coalition conducting air strikes against isis. we thank you for being here to do that. we will look to the nominee to the united kingdom as well. the bilateral u.s./u.k. relationship has grown into a global network of trade partnerships that fight terrorism and drive economic growth. united kingdom has not just deployed its military beside ours, it has helped build the international framework that includes the united nations and nato together. our countries work together to make the world a safer and more prosperous place. we'll have a chance to engage the nominee to be ambassador to italy, where we also have positive and strong relations. italy is now on the u.n. security council. we thank you for being here. lastly, w

his latest book, "beyond the nato." our nextning us -- color is joining us from georgia, republican line. caller: i hope you give me some time to speak. c-span keeps drowning out people like mr. o'hanlon who essentially push fake news, so let me just make my comment. i wish mr. o'hanlon would comment on the fact that the united states got involved in ukrainian politics by having backed a resolution that removed the duly elected president of ae ukraine and installed president that was for america a few years back. this is what is really causing problems. mr. o'hanlon brushes that over. guest: you make a valid point about the origins of this crisis in complicated, and indeed that there was a ukrainian president extremely unpopular with his own people largely because he was seen as doing russian bidding who presided over a complete deterioration of the russian economy, which led to protests by the ukrainian people in the middle of the winter back in 2013-2014. that did lead to this deal, which was violated by the oppositio

now the members are going to contribute more into nato do you feel like maybe tough. tough posturing is actually strengthening nato well i think clearly american presidents of long said that our analyze and nato should pay their two percent and very few have so that is the positive side perhaps but. it's just the tone coming to a nato summit and instead of talking about issues that unite us like ukraine like finding ways to preserve the alliance like fighting isis like participating in the military effort against terrorism like working together on terrorism you wimp the size the cost the two percent as opposed to the importance of the alliance and political and military terms on issues like terrors yeah it does feel like sometimes that president trump is treating his allies like business partners keeps khazaee always talks about paying up. well you know he's he won the presidency i respect him for that he ran a very good campaign as an outsider he's a businessman and he said different kind of leader. but i think it's important that he realize that. governments operate

tough posturing is actually strengthening nato. well i think clearly american presidents of long said that our analyze and nato should pay their two percent and very few have so that is the positive side perhaps but. it's just the tone coming to a nato summit and instead of talking about issues that unite us like ukraine like finding ways to preserve the alliance like fighting isis like participating in the military effort against terrorism like working together on terrorism you wimp the size the cost the two percent as opposed to the importance of the alliance and political and military terms on issues like terrors yeah it does feel like sometimes that president trump is treating his allies like business partners kids because you always talks about paying up. well you know he's he won the presidency i respect him for that he ran a very good campaign as an outsider he's a businessman and he said different kind of leader. but i think it's important that he realize that. governments operate differently than businesses and you have to

now the members are going to contribute more into nato do you feel like maybe tough. tough posturing is actually strengthening nato well i think clearly american presidents of long said that our analyze and nato should pay their two percent and very few have so that is the positive side perhaps but. it's just the tone coming to a nato summit and instead of talking about issues that unite us like ukraine like finding ways to preserve the alliance like fighting isis like participating in the military effort against terrorism like working together on terrorism you wimp the size the cost the two percent as opposed to the importance of the alliance and political and military terms on issues like terrors yeah it does feel like sometimes that president trump is treating his allies like business partners keeps keziah always talks about paying up. well you know he's he won the presidency i respect him for that he ran a very good campaign as an outsider he's a businessman and he said different kind of leader. but i think it's important that he realize that. governments operate

territory and secondly we've seen not just those countries joining nato but nato sending troops into the baltic states and elsewhere putting the missile shield in the pool in the czech republic and exercises as you said this time and was recently in the southern edge in hungary and so on but also in the north in poland sweden and the baltic states and this buildup has destabilized the region so we have a potential cold war in that region while archery stemming from the nato expansion into it but i think hours after i'd say else that the chinese have got their own acts the grain given what's happened in the south china sea where there is a standoff between them the americans and the ptolemies and japanese allies over these islands they are so it's not surprising to anyone that china and russia are allies i mean is this news to anyone is it news perhaps this general because they haven't been following the news if that's the case and it's also the case that queer if nato and the americans carry a military exercises in this region that there was going to be a response i think what set th

nato --e know expanded we have now expanded nato to 29 countries, the last one was montenegro. as of 2008 we are promising eventual relation -- membership to ukraine and georgia. georgia is not even in europe. nato is was to be a european and north american union. i think we have pushed this too far. what is done is done. a good reason to try it. it also had a predictable effect on u.s. russian relations. fundamentally, vladimir putin is the number one problem in this would wehip, but how feel if we had been engaged in a cold war for decades and in the organization the defeated us expanded to include canada and mexico. that is essentially what we are doing with nato. even though the intentions are good and we are not using military force to threaten them, at a psychological level it is hard for russians to accept. they feel it we are rubbing it in their face in the victory in the cold war. that gives putin the basis to -- i'm not suggesting the behavior is defensible, but the way he uses nato expansion to create political support for this behavior at home was predictable and i

i think it is in nato's purview. i think president trump brought that up i nato has now affirmed that cyber terrorism is a threat in many instances. it could be in a communication system, it could be any kind of business and it could be in our military communications or military activities. i think it is in nato's interest, that have already agreed that it will be one of the focuses and one of the main focuses. nato is somewhat like the united states senator and a group that has different threats or constituencies. some members are more concerned about russian aggression and others are more concerned about terrorism and counterterrorism depending on where they fall geographically. i think it is very much a common threat and should be in the purview of nato. >> i think it is in the purview of nato and we need to place much pressure as possible to clean up the vulnerabilities because there are vulnerabilities. these are waiver countries where these threats can land on our shores without security screen. >> your point a

ambassador to nato her senate hearings are underway senator hutchison's nomination is a big swing in the opposite direction from then candidate trump's remarks about nato being obsolete hutchison is quite the conservative and has a very strong stance against russia so to discuss this and nato and a lot more i'm sure i'm being joined by former cia analyst ray mcgovern great thanks to you being here with us again today on friday with me like you're you're here with me every friday i love it how do you think the appointment of such a right wing conservative to this position will affect our relationship around the world with our our nato allies well it will depend on whether mr trump was able to make his policies through. it's sort of like go team of rivals sort of thing. when obama came in he appointed hellary clinton bobby gates and all those people you know he thought that he could control them trump seems to be in the same midst misapprehension that he can kind of let these people be selected and many of them have a record of opposing what he wants to put through so whether or not he

i would say that i can see the strategy to nato and. >> through nato? >> yes, because when it comes to a cyber attack you remember that as a result of the first cyber attack on a wide scale that happened years ago the center of excellence was established in gastonia. >> that have anything to do with an american strategy? i was at the opening of it. >> yes, but i think in no case thanks to when we found out that it would be difficult as far as i know it is be difficult to look at the case and asked for help from the u.s. and u.k. agencies, i would like to believe the strategy exists, i cannot comment on it because i'm not in the loop. i didn't talk to people but but i can see that happened every day is through embassy in through diplomatic, they exist in nato. >> that's a great answer. thank you. should we expect similar aggressive behaviors we saw the attempt to overthrow the government of montenegro another natives such as bosnia, macedonia and others? >> what i mentioned in my introductory, i'm sure this is just one case and i'm sure it to russia will

telling nato what nato wants to hear. but not going so far as to ruffle too many russian feathers ahead of that meeting, of course later on. and it will all be about sticking to that script, hannah. >> melissa in warsaw, poland. thank you very much. i want to bring in matthew chance who is standing any the russian capital moscow. of course all eyes will be on this vladimir putin and donald trump face-to-face meeting the first time. these two haven't met, on the side lanes of the g20 summit in germany as well. matthew, your response or what you think the kremlin's response might be to this news out of poland that a deal has been struck, a missile deal between the united states and poland? >> well, it's interesting because this isn't the subject that gets many headline these days. but it's still one of the main issue, if not the main issue that russia has with its -- what it would call its western partners, the deployments of missile defense in eastern europe. russia believes threaten its own strategic balance. they threate

we talked about strengthening security including the eastern flank of nato. we discussed generally the security situation in this part of europe. apart from that, we mentioned the situation in ukraine. we talked about the upcoming military exercise which will take place in belarus. talked about contracts connected with the modernization of the polish armed forces. we discussed the already entered into agreement between poland and the united states on purchasing patriot missiles. we discussed the implementation of the program and the implementation of another program. we discussed all the things that will be implemented in the next few years as regards strengthening the security of poland. ladies and gentlemen, i am delighted after these conversations, i have a feeling that united states is thinking seriously and president trump is thinking seriously about poland security. he is also thinking very seriously about the united states of america as our loyal ally. the president stressed very strongly that strength of the polish community and the united states and

parties that are committed to breaking apart nato, withdrawing from the eu. these are very challenging dynamics and in conversations at a security conference earlier this year with european allies i was haunted by a question from a diplomat from an eastern european country observing that our election had been attacked by the russians and undermined and that they saw no concerted action at that point by the administration or congress to respond to that. the question from this polish leader was, if you won't defend your democracy, how can we have confidence that you will help defend our democracy? in democracies where they're more fragile and is more directly and immediately under threat from a power with alternative vision for how societies ought to be organized, that's a significant question and in leading a bipartisan delegation to the czech republic, ukraine and estonia, i came away with a simple conclusion that was shared by others which is that citizens of those countries, average people of those countries, need to be able to show russian citizens or citi

we have already talked about nato and the complicated relations between russia and nato and both sides continue to claim that they are engaging in provocation in the remit of rising europe and so on and so forth in september of this year russia is going to have a military exercises together with belarus. and as for forming new trust. maybe you shouldn't have these military exercises or postpone them. well to agree on the scale of the military exercise and to formulate certain measures which would characterise confidence building measures which would allow was to lower the level of spurs we need to cooperate for that. let's remember two thousand and eight the other big games in beijing mr secretary they attacked self a c.t. and we the russian federation we had our men our workplace keepers their station according to the mandate of the un and we asked to convene the nato russian council because i said no we are close in that format we don't want to talk with you within that format and remember the way. the later. saw the two thousand and eight everyone said well that was a mistake we sho

members are going to contribute more into nato do you feel like maybe tough. tough posturing is actually strengthening nato well i think clearly american presidents of long said that are analyzed and nato should pay their two percent and very few have so that is the positive side perhaps but. it's just the tone coming to a nato summit and instead of talking about issues that unite us like ukraine like finding ways to preserve the alliance like fighting isis like participating in the military effort against terrorism like working together on terrorism you emphasize the cost the two percent as opposed to the importance of the alliance and political and military terms on issues like terrors yeah it does feel like sometimes that president trump is treating his allies like business partners keith keziah always talks about paying up. well you know he's he won the presidency i respect him for that he ran a very good campaign as an outsider he's a businessman he said different kind of leader. but i think it's important that he realize that. governments operate differe

he'd is sitting down with a host of eastern nato allies. the white house has said a key goal of the trip is to reaffirm the commitment to the military alliance which you once derided as obsolete. we are grateful for the example poland has set for every member of the nato alliance by being one of the few nations that actually meets its financial obligations. i have been pretty hard on some of the members of nato for not. the money is pouring in. but i can alsod say that the people at nato aren't criticizing me. they're very happy. the money has been pouring in. cragg is inver warsaw. donald trump is about to give a major speech. who has turned up to hear him? it seems to be mostly supporters of poland's ruling law and justice party and supporters of donald trump. people to the right of the political spectrum who share donald trump's anti-islamic and generalstance nationalistic stances. a lot of people have come in by bus. mps from the law and justice party. people coming in from the provinces. in warsaw there are more liberals who are inclin

the nato allies will no doubt welcome it. in the clearest terms condemned the destabilizing activities of russia. however, before that speech, he once again questioned the intelligence that russia meddled in the u.s. election. he said yeah, i think russia did

countries like turkey yet they're not talking about withdrawing from nato still still a nato ally i'm not sure who russia's allies are maybe a couple of former soviet states but nothing like the western alliance you know thirty of the best governed wealthiest countries on earth over fifty percent of world g.d.p. so really really no no comparison there well if there is no comparison and yet. week after week we're hollis hosting a major halves of state here in russia and it's true that the russia doesn't have these large network of alliances simply because russia does not believe that alliance is the way to conduct foreign policy it's a very expensive way off advancing your interest and to be honest with you i think it's not a very efficient one even president trump have spoken about it and has been telling the media about. the fact that the you know sometimes allies can. show a propensity for piggybacking and not fully carrying the bird and security of trade and so on and so forth so there's just a conceptual difference in the way russia and the united states approach those issues but

embodiment of nato. but britain come in some ways, is responsible —— pleb won is responsible, for this u—turn in foreign policy. but again, and we are the very beginning of a conversation, and it may well be that we have to wait for several yea rs before we that we have to wait for several years before we get a better sense of whether ukraine has a serious chance of becoming a member. we had on the show last week, very timely, the man who has been named as the special robson to do to ukraine. it is has been said is a hardliner when they comes to matters in kiev. —— they comes to matters in kiev. —— the special representative to ukraine. in terms of the russian investigation, it's very difficult to know, ? investigation, it's very difficult to know,? of weird habits conversation earlier in the year, i would have said that the cupboard ministry ‘s and seems to be doing a somersault on ukraine —— the trump administration, he had talked about three ukraine under the bus, recognising crime

i would say that i can see the strategy through nato and what i also -- sen. mccain:? through nato? ambassador garcevic: when it comes to cyberattacks, as a result of the cyberattacks of a large-scale that happened years ago when russia attacked estonia, which was supposed to be -- sen. mccain: didn't have anything to do with an american strategy. i was there at the opening of it. ambassador garcevic: yeah. but i think in all case -- in all cases -- thanks to -- when we found out it would be difficult at least as far as i know, it would be difficult to clarify the case and ask for help from the u.s. and u.k. agencies, i would like to believe that strategy exist. i can only -- i cannot comment on it because i'm not in the loop. i didn't read it. i didn't talk to people who can explain. what i can see happening every day that through your embassies and diplomatic network and at a network that exists in nato at a working level, countries like montenegro. they need assistance. sen. mccain:. answer,a great thank you. should we expect similar aggressive behaviors? we saw the attempt to ov

taleban when did try to liam bush's but we're also hearing the look asian that was provided to the nato piloted by the afghan forces was identified as a taliban position this is an area that's a front line and yesterday on broad three humvees armored humvees that they had captured from the afghan security forces filled them with explosives and did try tried to detonate them trying to break the security belt getting into the great district and one did did dad brought a krug bomb killing at least nineteen afghan national army soldiers so the strike today was that it was a mistake by the afghans or whether the police men should have been wearing their uniforms is a big blow for a force that's a lot of that's hundred a lot of pressure every day the afghan national security forces are paying a very heavy price when it comes to fighting against taliban and in the last twenty four hours for example afghanistan has lost that nice one hundred pointy member of its afghan national security forces so a huge blow and we are being told that there will be an investigation to find out exactly what happ

in his previous trip he did not mention article five of the nato treaty. this was mentioned in the poll speech and i think that was reassuring to many in europe, especially in poland which is threatened by russia. host: we are talking with herman pirchner, the president of the american foreign-policy council. we are talking about president trump's first g-20 summit that is wrapping up now. democrats can call (202) 748-8000. republicans, (202) 748-8001. --ndependent, (202) 748-8002 independents, (202) 748-8002. upeign policy gives a wrap of how the g 20 is going. trump's to visit in hamburg is being treated in poland as a diplomatic coup. in a limited sense that is fair. -- established by the poland president must than a year ago in august. president this early is a pr triumph. make up lesses than 10% of the european union's gdp. guest: i think there are several reasons for stopping in poland. poland is one of the founding nato countries that makes their 2% commitment of their budget to defense. polish americans are strong backers of the president. you can

taleban when did try to liam bush's but we're also hearing the look asian that was provided to the nato pilot by the afghan forces was identified as a taliban position for the strike today whether it was a mistake by the afghans or whether the police men should have been wearing their uniforms it is a big blow for a force that's a lot of that's hundred a lot of pressure every day the afghan national security forces are paying a very heavy price when it comes to fighting against taliban and in the last twenty four hours for example afghanistan has lost that nice one hundred twenty member of its afghan national security forces so a huge blow and we are being told that there will be an investigation to find out exactly what happened along with promises to investigate today's incident the u.s. military also expressed deep condolences to the families something that we have in the past articulate more pain breaks now friendly fire incidents in afghanistan. we're hearing condolences from u.s. officials in response to the afghan security forces that were killed but the numbers that we're seeing

ukraine joining nato, with despite its long—held objections to ukrainejoining nato, with not have a veto in that decision. most people except it is in the medium to long distance future, if it ever happens, that ukraine might become a member of nato. a lot of things have to happen and change. there is still a conflict in the east of this country. this has to be resolved before nato when its members welcome ukraine. this is charlie gard, a terminally ill baby suffering from a rare genetic condition. the hospital where he is being treated as decided to end his life support and as pa rents to end his life support and as parents and made several u nsuccessful parents and made several unsuccessful challenges. earlier they were in the high court to present new evidence of an experimental treatment in america which they say could help him. our correspondent has the story. for core, passionate and determined. charlie gard's parents have considerable support, including the pope and donald trump. now this pro—life evangelical preacher, who was once jailed for anti—abortion protests, and he's b

president, but i also say that people of nato are not criticizing me. the money has been pouring in, far greater than it ever would have been. it is time for all countries in the net ofalliance to get going -- in the nato alliance to get going in their obligations and i consider poland has been right there, you will exceed that number, i appreciate that very much. i congratulated the president on poland's recent election to the united nations security council. we discussed our mutual commitment to safeguarding valuables at the dutch values at the heart of our alliance, freedom, sovereignty, and the rule of law. poland joins the security council at a critical time. a critical time for the world because you see what is going on. not only must we secure our nations from the threat of council at a critical time. terrorism, but we must also confront the threat from north korea. that is what it is, a threat. we will confront it verystrongly. the president and i call on all nations to confront this global threat and publicly demonstrate to north korea that the

army intel officer, nato commander andrew peake and former cia intel analyst fred fleischer. we start with you. what do you think about the way the president has handled, start with the nato contribution. i don't think anybody talked about the fact that so many of these countries never met that obligation. the president has a way of shaming people by putting it out that you are not coming to the bargaining table, why would i say we are all going to defend one another when you don't -- you are not equipped to defend me, why should i defend you. >> this position caused so much hysteria among the foreign policy establishment and the media when in task asking army nato allies to pay more in defense funding has been a policy in the united states for the past we for decades going back to the nixon administration. henry kissinger writes about this in his memoirs. like many of trump's seemingly outlandish positions, this is one that bears some fruit and makes sense. >> i agree with that but what i think is so interesting about this trip to poland is how donald trump has tried to set

still still a nato ally i'm not sure who russia's allies are maybe a couple of. the national weather service in sterling virginia has issued a special memory warning for chesapeake bay from north beach to drum point maryland chesapeake bay from sandy point to north beach maryland river to cambridge maryland and the little town ten river eastern until eight forty five pm at six forty three pm strong thunderstorm was located near national harbor moving southeast at twenty knots hazard thirty four knots or greater source radar indicated impact voters and small craft could be thrown overboard by suddenly higher winds and waves capsizing their vessel locations impacted include river island eastern block limit point greenbury point island beach seven river beach room koch bloody point light thomas point light metal peak poplar island chesapeake bay bridge narrows bridge naval academy tillman island annapolis. and they'll move to safe harbor until hazardous weather passes. you see it in very categorical terms but how do you explain them. being willing to reach out to ru

still still a nato ally i'm not sure who russia's allies are maybe a couple of former soviet states but nothing like the western alliance you know thirty of the best governed wealthiest countries on earth over fifty percent of world g.d.p. so really really no no a comparison there well if there is no comparison and yet. week after week we have house hosting a major hads of state here in russia and it's true that russia doesn't have these large network of alliances simply because russia does not believe that alliance is the way to conduct foreign policy it's a very expensive. way off advancing your interest and to be honest with you i think it's not a very efficient one even president trump have spoken about it has been telling the media about. the fact that the you know sometimes allies can. show a propensity for piggybacking and not fully carrying the bird and security of trade and so on and so forth so there's just a conceptual difference in the way russia and the united states approach those issues but i want to ask you something about a particular relationship between putin and

we are committed to nato. we are committed to our common to and in the president wanted estonia andere to georgia and montenegro to make sure our allies know that we'll stand with them as the united states has six days throughout their history. the prime minister just shared with new helming what is the will of estonia that all during the time of soviet repression the united states of america never recognized the soviet union's claim and we stand with them today as free and independent nations since 1991 and the president wanted me to make it clear to these baltic states and to the wider world looking on america's hands with our allies. originally in nato headquarters not her believe article five. what changed between when he went through the standing there worksnding you a broad? we have made it clear the policy of our administration is to stand firmly with our nato allies and to then firmly behind our article five commitment that an attack on one is an attack on all. it was very moving from the visit with th

nato is pushed into eastern europe and volumes more than tanks planes and bombs now the alliance is now pushing a controversial brand of history. on july eleventh nagel's twitter page published a trailer in support of a new film about latvia so called forest brothers the film glorifies the baltic nations guerrilla fighters for resisting the soviet army despite overwhelming odds but the film puts nato in a historical pickle the forest brothers were conscripted and armed by the nazis during their invasion of the soviet union nato and alliance formed in the wake of the defeat of nazi germany is now glorifying those who fought side by side it was barry. or is a spokesperson for russia's ministry of foreign affairs responded on facebook and how many of these soviets were latvians citing the participation of latvian citizens in the fight against the nazis this is not unusual for nato the alliance has kept bad faith with russia and the soviet union's legacy of sacrifice in eastern europe following its collapse since two thousand and fourteen nato has conducted joint military operations in ukra

still still a nato ally i'm not sure who russia's allies are maybe a couple of former soviet states but nothing like the western alliance you know thirty of the best governed wealthiest countries on earth over fifty percent of world g.d.p. so really really no no comparison there well if there is no comparison and yet. week after week we have house hosting a major halves of state here in russia and it's true that the russia doesn't have these large network of alliances simply because russia does not believe that the alliance is the way to conduct foreign policy it's a very expensive way off advancing your interest and to be honest with the i think it's not a very efficient one even president trump have spoken about it and. has been telling the media about. the fact that the you know sometimes allies can. show a propensity for piggybacking and not fully carrying the bird and security of trade and so on and so forth so there's just a conceptual difference in the way russia and the united states approach those issues but i want to ask you something about a particular relationship betwee

. -- eastern flank of nato. we discussed security in europe. we mention the situation in ukraine. we talked about the upcoming military exercise with full take place in belarus. -- which will take place in belarus. we talked about contracts connected with the modernization of the polish armed forces. we discussed the already entered into agreement between poland and the united states on purchasing patriot missiles. we discussed the them limitation of a program and the implementation of another program. we discussed the things that will be implement it in the next three years in regards to strengthening the security of poland. i am delighted, after these conversations, i have a feeling the united states is thinking seriously and donald trump thinking seriously about: security. desk: security and he is thinking seriously about the united states of america as our loyal ally. the president stressed strongly strength of the polish community in the united states and the polish americans who he met before the election.