mr. holzer: two-and-a-half. we were the only people that decided since we're going to revise, we better revise the book ourselves. we did the linkedin image and the confederate image. we spent a lot of -- we did the theoln image and confederate image. we spent a lot of time in gettysburg. both of them were introduced to the public with expeditions of graphic art at gettysburg college. there was a show of lincoln prints and a confederate image and a terrible heat wave -- in a terrible heat wave where the air conditioner went out. our third collaborator was not happy to see the ripple effect of the humidity. that is one of my memories. we had a great collaboration. can i tell you one story before we do serious stuff? this was the days before computers. author, mark, worked for the lincoln museum. he had an assistant to had a computer. i did not have computers. i had typewriters. i lived in new york, mark lived in fort wayne, indiana, and gabor lived in gettysburg. we had few personal meetings. we spent most of our