going forward so frank kaufman saw some potential for strengthening of core europe and you said you thought the austrian results could well halt the process of integration and halt mr macro push so perhaps matthew go first with that more pessimistic view and then we'll but you know i mean but this is really the core question that's pessimistic depending on where you stand on the issue i think a lot of people even in germany would say we like the e.u. as it is we're not anti you we like the free market we like the euro we want to keep things as we are what we don't want is to shift more sovereignty to brussels now this would be the position also of the people's party in austria of sebastian course his party as well as the far right freedom party it's also the position of most of the central and eastern european. countries if not all of them who are really enjoying the freedom that they won after the berlin wall fell down in one nine hundred eighty nine and they are not as eager to shift their societies into this larger sort of european amalgamation and don't want a more federal europe they l

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going forward so frank kaufman saw some potential for strengthening of core europe and you said you thought the austrian results could well halt the process of integration and halt mr macro push so perhaps matthew go first with that more pessimistic view and then we'll but you know i mean but this is really the core question it's pessimistic depending on where you stand on the issue i think a lot of people even in germany would say we like the e.u. as it is we're not anti you we like the free market we like the euro we want to keep things as we are what we don't want is to shift more sovereignty to brussels now this would be the position also of the people's party in austria of sebastian course his party as well as the far right freedom party it's also the position of most of the central and eastern european. countries if not all of them who are really enjoying the freedom that they won after the berlin wall fell down in one nine hundred eighty nine and they are not as eager to shift their societies into this larger sort of european amalgamation and don't want a more federal europe they lik

kaufman met the man who was helping to hunt down the jihad his report is part of the exclusive d.w. documentary list from victim to terrorist hunter. massud a q a syrian kurd fled his homeland in two thousand and sixteen he and his mother used the so-called balkan route to travel to germany here they were greeted by muslims brothers and sister all of whom had already made the journey. so that the station off leaving because of some skin to resist i was obliged to do that like any other person who lives a life to leave he's told the city this country but must i kill is not your average refugee the former video journalist was prisoner for two hundred eighty days in the various torture chambers of the so-called islamic state. as militants ambushed him and his colleague as they're on their way to do an interview they were both kidnapped. and understand was in iraq i presume. it was for around one hundred days it was a football star you know just me city central florida city there it was. he experienced months of torture while in six different prisons run by yes there he says he came fac

going forward so frank kaufman saw some potential for strengthening of core europe and you said you thought the austrian result could well halt the process of integration and halt mr macro push so perhaps matthew go first with that more pessimistic view and then we'll but you know that this is really the core question is pessimistic depending on where you stand on the issue i think a lot of people even in germany would say we like the e.u. as it is we're not anti you we like the free market we like the euro we want to keep things as we are what we don't want is to shift more sovereignty to brussels now this would be the position also of the people's party in austria of sebastian course his party as well as the far right freedom party it's also the position of most of the central and eastern european. countries if not all of them who are really enjoying the freedom that they won after the berlin wall fell down in one nine hundred eighty nine and they are not as eager to shift their societies into this larger sort of european amalgamation and don't want a more federal europe they like what th

going forward so frank kaufman saw some potential for strengthening of core europe and you said you thought the austrian results could well halt the process of integration and halt mr macro push so perhaps matthew go first with that more pessimistic view and then we'll but tell you no i mean but this is really the core question is pessimistic depending on where you stand on the issue i think a lot of people even in germany would say we like the e.u. as it is we're not anti you we like the free market we like the euro we want to keep things as we are what we don't want is to shift more sovereignty to brussels now this would be the position also of the people's party in austria of sebastian course his party as well as the far right freedom party it's also the position of most of the central and eastern european. countries if not all of them who are really enjoying the freedom that they won after the berlin wall fell down in one nine hundred eighty nine and they are not as eager to shift their societies into this larger sort of european amalgamation and don't want a more federal europe they li

correspondent frank's health frank kaufman who is with us here in the studio this part this report of course part of a documentary that is area here and in about forty forty five minutes time it's called must pseuds list from victim to terrorist hunter. a really astonishing story that we are hearing about this individual what drives him what you say but i think there are two main things for play the one assad he wants to help the country where he found refuge german day after a long journey through the balkan routes he made it until january two thousand and sixteen as one of the last refugees of this huge refugee wave of two thousand and fifteen general two thousand and sixteen he had the chance to come to germany and then he realized these people where he suffered from ice terrorists that they also hit in europe coming to. other with refugees or been been been sent in other ways and he wants to help the german government and the german officials obviously but also there's another issue i mean he was in about four border nine months in captivity of the islamic state and i have to also

and that dodd-frank is not work the way it should have. i am wondering, which scenario of succession would be best in terms of regulation and addressing that issue against -- around too big to fail? dr. kaufman: i do not think any of those that have been mentioned as successor to the chair would really address this issue head on. embedded of the actions in 2008, 2009. my argument has always been that we should reduce the size of financial conglomerates. the conflicts of interest are great. they decrease the efficiency of the financial markets. and they lead to what we are having, financial public utilities. they are much more under the thumb of the federal government than they used to be. tom: we have a lot to talk about. we are set for an ecb meeting and an of -- a more important ecb meeting, we heard from antonio garcia pascual of barclays, looking for a dovish tone out of mario draghi. from london and new york, this is bloomberg. ♪ ♪ >> this is "bloomberg surveillance." and germany, ceo john cryan reader is stuttering at deutsche ba