. >> in the reagan era, you had democrats on board with the reagan tax cuts. it was sponsored by dan ro rosscowski. and even howard baker, senate majority leader said reagan economics river boat gamble. i guess that makes obamacare the "titanic" gamble. and we have them acting like the walter mondales from back then. talking about the hikes. and democrats are playing hardball. mike is right. they're out there with misleading statements whereas the republicans are too nice. the republicans need to play hardball. david: nobody accused donald trump of being too nice. >> i was talking about mitch mcconnell and ryan. david: i get you. and in his favor, mike pence as vice-president. he gets it and understands tax reform and he knows how to sell it. >> he does, indeed. one of the things that republicans need to do in congress get away from the words tax reform. what people want are big tax cuts. don't fall in the trap of class warfare. everyone wants to know is it going to help me and my family, if they show that's true, they don't care if bill gates is doing well, i

it mattered very much ronald reagan. ronald reagan wrote in his diaries at the end of his presidency the two things he regretted not doing more about was the perl issue and the debt. it's always been a matter of concern to the republican party. >> host: he had a democratic congress. usually so much you can do. then bush also felt about the debt, that's a reason he wanted the revenue, tax increases. clinton also saw they had it sent but the debt and made his members take a tough vote to open lose the house. >> guest: that's right, a 91. >> host: but since a time, the debt has credit taken a sideline. now my wrong? >> guest: you are absolutely right. who knows where this is going to lead, but if both parties are in favor of deficit spending, is that who's going to look out for the budget? is going to look out for the payroll, or the revenue? who's going to look out for the bottom line of the national government in the american people? >> host: newt was very conscious of balancing the budget. we ballasted four years. for ye

>> but it was interesting with the reagan coalition in with that endorsement but that was what reagan had in 1988 and '84 as a precursor. he did not get the amount of support that gingrich got but not for lack of trying the he was endorsed and other african-american leaders. >> so he comes to washington in those groups that supported him if you talking in the book what he did to try to keep these groups in line? or mac. >> that was a an interesting coalition because there is no conservative organization to use because of it even with the republican party to muster a money order resources basically just a letterhead organization. you cannot depend on the local party. >> so those environmentalist was with environmental studies so the legislation of hearings and meetings to keep the door open. >> compared to his predecessor. >> yes. he supported. >> one of the first ones to call for the martin luther king, jr. holiday and the reagan administration was slow to go along with that idea. in seoul were republicans. but that was part of his base. >> that was more jack kemp. >> also he introduc

let's go to ronald reagan. i want to take one incident from reagan's career and be able to open this up to discussion and q&a. i do not want to go on forever. inald reagan found himself real peril. he was elected in part because discontent with the carter presidency. there was the return of the toama can now -- canal attend warned dictator. sayst very goldwater who it is ours, we stole it fair and square? giving back to the panama canal is one thing the jacksonians saw as idiotic and crazy. for carter, it was important enough and he could get the two thirds majority in the senate, which is very difficult. he got that through. it hurt him with jacksonians. with the iranian takeover of the u.s. embassy and carter's apparent inability to do --thing but hope of iran that iran would be nice and give it back, the failure of the hostage rescue, it was a corrosive attack on carter's standing that helped pave the way for reagan's victory. reagan knew he owed his place in office to jacksonian discontent with jimmy carter

because that was the great gift that ronald reagan gave to us and i'm proud to have served ronlt reagan as a senior speech writer to the president for 7 1/2 writers and being a special assistant to the president and being involved with his efforts to try and move peace in the world. and it was about recognizing people's rights to independence. ronald reagan was an irish american and look that the british perpetrated and it happened in ireland because that i they be kept under british rule when it was clear that they wanted to be independent of great britain. look at what happened in singa important and ma lace yeah and those countries were under the domination and part of the great britain and british empair, they were permitted to leave and establish their independence and ma last yeah and singa important and then they separated from each other peacefully. in any one of these cases if anyone demanded that these people stay in this particular status within this particular government, there would have been a lot more violence. when self-determination and people are subjugated to the orde

diana walker: humor in my ure ofraphs,the pict roster cronkite, ronald reagan ronkite, ronald reagan and all the presidents doing an exclusive thing for cbs. picture ofe, the yeltsin and president clinton laughing, that simply unfolded in front of the world because they were on the stage. funny.cture is so there is a series of five and they are so funny. i remember being behind-the-scenes with hillary clinton. storye doing a cover around her 50th birthday and mrs. clinton's demeanor early on in the white house. her senset known for of humor. there were people who did not know if she had one. i asked the chief of staff if i could ride in mrs. clinton's limousine back from an event. the secret service left me in the limousine and i was squished at thecorner looking first lady and her chief of staff. it was a wide picture to get both of them in. they immediately started to share something funny. they both were laughing and i thought, how great is this? i know what kind of sense of humor mrs. clinton has. i sent this packet of film to new york and i said watch the back of the limousine.

so the party today post donald trump is this still reagan's party?. >> those issues that they were ever at the four. than that casualty right now. so they say that doesn't matter. but since the beginning of time. and those things that you regret with the depth of those is always a matter of concern. >> then also the tax increases. and then that vote that helped them to lose the house. but then he takes the sideline?. >> so with both parties who will look out for the budget or payroll? and with the people. and you did balance the budget. >> sitting with clinton and who understood and also made payments. that is exactly right. so one day you wake up it is big enough to take care of themselves. so talk about that coalition. and olympia snowe was a conservative man supported him. and jim leach was another moderate from iowa and had the support of all the conservatives but that was transactional. >> virtually all the conservatives. but of those tactics were sick to be kicked around. so there this rhetoric that was the live. >> handed to be confrontational.

let's go to ronald reagan. i want to take one incident from reagan's career and be able to open this up to discussion and q&a. i do not want to go on forever. ronald reagan found himself in real peril. he was elected in part because of jacksonian discontent with the carter presidency. there was the return of the panama canal to attend warned tin-horn dictator. was it very goldwater who says it is ours, we stole it fair and square? giving back to the panama canal is one thing the jacksonians saw as idiotic and crazy. for carter, it was important enough and he could get the two thirds majority in the senate, which is very difficult. he got that through. it hurt him with jacksonians. with the iranian takeover of the u.s. embassy and carter's apparent inability to do anything but hope that iran would be nice and give it back, the failure of the hostage rescue, it was a corrosive attack on carter's standing that helped pave the way for reagan's victory. reagan knew he owed his place in office to jacksonian disconten

reagan took the social security and medicaid away from us and put it into a k09. if you retire, like i did, i had to pay the tax to social security. we know what you are doing. you are going to take the money for medicaid and social security and pay for your taxes. tell me the truth is not in there, because i read it. thank you. .uest: that is not true i can tell you i have an 85-year-old mother. gotfirst telephone call i when i was elected in 2010 was not to say congratulations, bill. it was to say ok, son, what is going to do to make sure washington does not mess with my social security and medicare. or else i'm going to come live with you. wifecond call is from my who said you had better do what your mother said. you cannot rollback the clock and make different retirement plans at this point in your life . i believe the federal government absolutely has a responsibility to honor the pledge and a promise for your social security and medicare just like my mother and millions of other seniors within that retirement window. we not taking money out of social securit

reagan. i said she told me the story of such and such. he said, oh yes, i had not thought about that for a while. there is your picture. there it is. you are always looking for the moment when people reveal something to you. that is what we do. whether it is out in public where there are millions, you're waiting for an expression on someone's face. even if you are using a long lens. you're waiting for a gesture. you are waiting for some event to happen in front of you. >> with a lot of your photos behind the scenes, you paid attention to moments of humor or when they are enjoying themselves. tell me about that. diana walker: humor in my oftographs, the picture walter cronkite, ronald reagan and all the presidents men laughing at that joke, i was very new to the white house when .hat nature was taken it unfolds in front of me when there were no other photographers in the room. i was doing an exclusive thing for cbs. that picture, the picture of yeltsin and president clinton laughing, that simply unfolded in front of the world because they

reagan then defeated carter and in the beginning and i go through this there was no reagan's human rights policy. the beginning was like the beginning of the george w. bush administration there was a feeling like this was a democratic stuff. this was a soft thinking. by the end and certainly by the end of the year and a half when secretary schultz came on reagan and developed the human rights policy conservative policy that ultimately led to the second term to an extremely active democracy promotion policy. and one of the things i think it's very important here is the criticism we made of carter was in part he have a human rights policy he did not have a democracy policy. it's good to get people out of jail. but they can lock them up faster than we can get them out. the solution to this kind of problem in the soviet union or anywhere else can't be endless american and for intervention. that was what we started to do in the reagan administration. it can't treat less on the individual case and more on the question of democratic systems in this reagan was creating the national endowment for

david connerly was photographing reagan. i did the mondale campaign for 17 months straight and at the end of that, my chief said, how would you like to cover the white house. that is when i started with the beginning of reagan's second term. i covered the white house through clinton. "time" became interested in the idea of shooting behind-the-scenes. they were always interested in it. if something came up -- he did a marvelous photograph of mrs. reagan and her dog. giving the dog a bath. that was very behind-the-scenes. "time" became interested in behind the scenes during the administration of george herbert walker bush. they asked me if i would be their stealth weapon, if i would begin to ask for behind-the-scenes access. george bush, his press secretary gave me the opportunity to go behind the scenes with bush early in his administration. as time went on, i did more and more of it. indeed, i was with george bush behind-the-scenes at his convention in 1992. i was told that i could be with him on election day too. and it was

ronald reagan was an actor who knew nothing. he not write his own speeches, and i worked in the reagan administration. people act now like everybody was embracing reagan, the media -- we did not have the apparatus that we have now. we did not have cable news for the most part back then, but they ridiculed reagan. reagan was ridiculed for most of his presidency, but what he tapped into was this sentiment for people in the south who for years thought the democratic party was working for the little guy. the democrats had. that's why they had the house of representatives since the 1950's all the way to 1994 unbroken hold come up they had the populist understanding. as was written about in the atlantic last october, they lost to the populist vote. he captured it. charlie: so donald trump, is he a reagan inheritor, a true populist who recognized that those like him, who believed in the same values, or is donald trump a very smart celebrity and successful businessman whose on saw opportunity and grabbed it? laura: i think going back to

to do. >> he talks about reagan in the context of this tax cut quite a bit. we all know that president reagan is just sort of the icon of the republican party. >> thank you very much. >> so that's what that's all about. it sort of conjuring up the good feeling from the 80s when reagan was president and did this to help move this process along. >> guest: he even uses some of the language from reagan. it really is that touchstone. >> host: here is some of the president in his own words on an interview that aired yesterday on tax reform. >> i think they should and may well. i think a lot of things are happening. i don't even like them leaving, but i will say this, i want to get it by the end of the year but i would be very disappointed if it took that long. they could be substantially less than that depending on what happens when we send the bill back to the house. if they send it back and make 200 suggestions as opposed to may be no suggestions, because it's a great bill and it will be a great bill. we are adjusting but we are adjusting so there's no way the mi

i worked in the reagan administration. people act now like, oh, everybody was embracing reagan. the media, we didn't have the apparatus that we have now in the media, we didn't have cable news for the most part back then, but they ridiculed reagan. reagan was ridiculed throughout most of his presidency, but what he tapped into was this sentiment for all these people in the south who for years thought the democrat party was working for the little guy, and the democrats had, that's why they had, charlie, the house of representatives, since the 1950s all the way to 1994, unbroken hold the democrats had because they had the populist understanding. as was written in the threan "te atlantic" last october, they lost the souls of them and he captured it. >> rose: is donald trump a populist,o is he a very smart celebrity, successful businessman who saw opportunity and grabbed et? >> well, i think, going back to his early remarks about trade and immigration, trump had those two core issues in the palm of his hand for some time. trump was a democrat, had a lot of democrat friends, donated

under the leadership of president reagan, our country is stronger and better. >> ronald reagan cut taxes to unleash the economic miracle of the 1980s. our tax plan will ensure that companies stay in america, grow in america and hire in america. >> neil: all right. whatever differences the president might be have with senator corker and flake, the fact of the matter is, this president is harkening back to ronald reagan with a legislative agenda particularly when it comes to tax cuts that will go directly to the american people and help the american people. is that argument selling? in other words, is another gipper in the making here to close the deal on what would be a revolutionary cut in taxes? john is here from t. good to have you here. >> thanks for having me on. >> when you see about hear about these comparisons, we know the message is similar. what senators flake and corker seem to be saying, big difference in the messengers. >> no doubt. i don't think you can see two guys that are more different in styles and approach and especially to congress where he needs the votes. but i woul

this was no reagan human rights policy. it's interesting, the beginning of the reagan administration was kind of like the beginning of the george w. bush administration in that there was a feeling that this was democratic stuff. this was lefty stuff. this was soft thinking. we're not going to fall into that trap again. but in the reagan administration, by the end of, certainly, by the end of a year and a half when secretary schultz came on, reagan developed a human rights policy, a conservative human rights policy that ultimately led, particularly in the second term, to an extremely active democracy promotion policy. and one of the things that i think is very important here is the criticism we made of carter was in part. he had a human rights policy, he didn't have a democracy policy. in other words, what we used to say was it's good to get people out of jail, you know, political prisoners, but they can lock them up faster than we can get them out. the solution to these kinds of problems in the soviet union or anywhere else

reagan philosophically, was on a different plane than george h w bush. he respected him and picked him as his vice president, but reagan beat -- uniquely understood the heart and soul of the american working class. he understood that without social conservatives and defense and populists altogether, the coalition would crumble. indeed, we saw it beginning to crumble in 1992. the came along then? .itchfork pat buchanan warning that if we had open borders and trade agreements that did not benefit the american working class, the american understanding would itself be endangered. it did not work for them, their kids. they were being treated as the enemies of the government. pat buchanan was not successful, but let's not forget whether it did theyr ross, boy garner a lot of support and did they set the stage for what would, all those years later with. even george w. bush ran on a humble platform. it was welcome news to the voters of the time. 1988, the institute wrote a long letter criticizing ronald reagan. i like a lot of the people at reagan asthey branded

if president reagan were here, n. this room, i think he would be very happy to know that all of us gathered to day to mark this occasion. one of the quotes that president reagan was very famous for was freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. we don't pass it to our children in the bloodstream, it must be fought for, protected and handle on for them to do the same. so smimdz this quote is used to talk about defense, president regular juan as famous for his peace through strength and this quote is used to defend defense. but defense isn't the only way to preserve freedom. so just like a football team, doesn't matter how great your defense, is if the offense can't put a few points on the board. so consider tonight education as freedom's offensive unit. and today dr. gordon lloyd is going to be playing the role of quarterback, pass is freedom from one generation to the next. excellent. as you see from his talk tonight, he's going to be a hall of famer on that team. so the topic is the lost art of c

what are the known as lex the reagan tax cuts, right? ronald reagan was a president. ronald reagan did make excuses. democrats controlled congress. >> host: double relationships, absolutely. >> guest: because the president didn't spend time on twitter and attacking people by name destroying them. >> host: you send mcconnell is not helping or obstructing the case not seen enough a trump transit i'm not defending, what i'm saying isabel that is this what conservatism has become, rationalization and carrying water for donald trump? as opposed to look, we conservatives stand, let's talk about our ideas, talk about small government. let's talk about deficits. we can about the national debt. had we make peoples lives better with free markets? [talking over each other] >> host: then we can have -- >> guest: donald trump, look, the conversation you are and are having is exactly the conversation i had with the left of the left says donald trump is conservatism. the use of the conservative movement. he represents everything you conservatives have ever stood for. >> host: they f

exhibit a, the reagan tax cuts. president reagan came into office, sky-high corporate and individual tax rates. at the end of the second term, both were substantially lower, and the federal government was taking in substantially more money. give you an example, corporate rates declined six percentage points in his two terms, revenue to the government increased $107 billion, 37%, over that time. the top individual tax rate declined 42 percentage points resulting in revenue to the government increasing $23 billion, 38%. so the bottom line is less actually turned out to be a whole lot more. by the way, two other ways to measure this. the impact on the economy, you look at gdp and jobs. gdp under ronald reagan's tax cuts when they kicked in in 1993, gdp surged to 4.6%, the next year 7.3%. in that span from '83-'89, gdp was 4.4% per year. employment growth with job creation under ronald reagan was legendary, highlighted by that september 1983 print, remember that? 1,150,000 jobs in a single month. that would be an amazin

under reagan, 55%. young women, under obama, 8%, under reagan, 73%. and finally, the bottom 20%, those struggling, under obama, 12%. under reagan, 40%. when you cut taxes and the economy booms, everyone benefits. that's what we need to do, and that's what the republican majority need to deliver on now. >> senator sanders. >> president bush was in office, ted, he cut taxes for the wealthy and large corporations, and the national debt nearly doubled from 5.7 trillion to over 10.6 trillion, and we lost about a half a million jobs. all right? voo do economics which is what the first bush referred to as trickle down economics. it is a fraud. it is an idea propagated by big money interests to give some kind of intellectual very near for more tax breaks for billionaires. second point i want to make, ted -- two points that i want to make here. number one, we can have a debate about whether you like what's going on in denmark or not. don't compare denmark to cuba. don't compare denmark to communist countries. denmark has hey higher voter turn out rate than we

. >> melanie alnwick is live at the reagan national airport with more, mel. >> good morning, guys, we all know people fly to loss vehicle toos have fun with their friends. for so many people, thousands of people that trip now ended with panic and fear. he we want to tell you about tina frost a 2008 fraud of arundel high school. her friends started a go fund me page for her. her -- her mother shared part of her story on this post saying, tina is out of surgery her vitals stable. they removed her right eye where the bullet was lodged and there's implant now to keep the space open saying she does have sniingt left eye and will never see again from the right one and took a bone if forehead to allow her brain room to swell and her daughter is critically stage new icu and they just don't know how things will turn out. it is possible that she will end up with permanent brain damage. >> then we also have tony berditis of west virginia it saends me to say i lost my wife of 32 years, mother of two, soon to be grandmother of five this evening in the las vegas shooting. she passed in my arms. i l

we do love reagan we are children of reagan but yet we have watched government get bigger with the $20 trillion debt and obamacare and that current betrayal. spending in general the largess of government deliberately made bigger by george w. bush. perhaps because we're children never again we have not seen that continue some would argue happened last year is the reassertion of the assistance to go back to the conservative idea. >> guest: maybe there are people who felt betrayed by the republican establishment five minutes ago donald trump was a democrat to treating money to clinton and did he support a single payer health care of a supporter of abortion rights but donald trump never has been an actual conservative he is lacking in principles spent less than five minutes thinking of issues many of his supporters understand maybe he is the vehicle to break the status quo be he does not represent an idea or a well thought out philosophy of government. we do not his relationship would be in one month or two months from now. so people that say we are upset with the establishment i think the

reagan said it didn't have to be that way. today, all these years later, what is donald trump doing? donald trump has assembled the most impressive, the most qualified trade team we have ever seen in american government, the most incredible people. they do not get much credit. i will not repeat all the stuff that bannon said. a person is now our u.s. trade representative. he is phenomenal. phenomenal. i think for the first time in decades, we now have him and wilbur ross at commerce is helping. vaughan is the general counsel over there. we have amazing people. they are doing something called a 301 investigation on china. it is under the fair trade act. it is a 301 investigation into the theft of american intellectual property that is being done on a daily basis by china. we got chinese cheap imports stealing our intellectual property, american made ingenuity. taking it, pirating it, making it overseas, sending it over here, everything from pharmaceutical to countertops. cheap stuff is probably poisoning us. trump administratio

back in that time, ted kennedy voted for reagan tax cuts, bill bradley worked on the reagan tax cuts, i'm not sure what happened to the democrat party that they don't get it that the little guy, the small business guy reports their income on federal government return, 90% of u.s. business is on the individual income tax. >> it's true that jfk was a big tax cutter, wasn't he? >> what happened to the republicans, the idea that we would be adding brackets is worrisome to me. if we top 10%, people making over $114,000, we still couldn't tax our way out of our spending the problem. fact is that this is not just about restoring the budget but also about restoring government which proper role giving people more ownership and control over their lives. this is a massive failure on the republican party. >> by the way, i'm going make the point, david, the idea that clinton was doing income tax cuts for middle class, reduced the capital gains tax from 28% to 20% and that was purely good for investment. he understood id. david: there's another question here, in whose hands is that money going to d

ronald reagan, took awhile to get the big tax reform. didn't take awhile to get the original 81 tax cuts. what do you see playing out here? >> if you look at ronald reagan, too, if you look at the stock market, it troughed in august of 1982. so we had a collapse up until 82 because of all the delays and all of that stuff in the tax bill. >> neil: and we had a major recession and all of that. >> oh, it was terrible. it was terrible. the reason for it, neil, we phased in the tax cuts because of silly accounting procedures. i like love mike rounds. he's a super senator. but all of the pay fors are wrong. if you cut the corporate tax rate by itself, no pay-fors, no offsets, nothing, you'd have a larger revenue growth over the next ten years. economic growth always gives you more revenues. did it with kennedy, clinton, does it -- >> neil: this always comes up, art. >> it does. >> neil: it's a battle for the soul of the republican party over these tax cuts. pay for them, make sure right away they're paid for. even if they produce deficits and

i mean the economy grew tremendously under reagan so you have to look at it. it's like saying you've got a thousand dollars of debt. i've got a thousand dollars of debt but you make $10 million and i make $200. i mean that's the difference a year. >> i'd love to make $10 million. >> that's the slight of hand that ben is using and a lot of people who attack president reagan. i will say this though and i agree with ben on this . this is probably not going to get done because charles schumer does not play ball. that is the biggest, that is the most funny thing i've ever heard that charles schumer is a ball player. >> neil: republicans are banking on him not playing ball. by the way do you know what else he is. he's a really good minority leader of the senate and he keeps regular order within his troops. >> but i bet he prevents those guys. >> amy: in fairness to mr. schumer which i rare liam, but there is an argument for him being the new york state senator >> neil: you don't have a sign for the principal argument. >> amy: that the tax plan would get rid of the s

that is not how we were raised under the principles of reagan. ,nd i said, he is interesting so i decided to go down to a country club a week before the primary,. he said i do not want to speak at a country club. that is against my message. he said about you to come and club.at cantor's country i said ok let me go. -- packed 700 people in this open area, hanging from the rafters and saying laura, you have to help dave. and i thought it was wild. then, he said we had to park some of the cars in the overflow parking outside eric cantor's house. then i got the call a week later. charlie: where did trump and populism meet? i think when you look back at his -- >> was it about immigration? laura a ingraham: it was not only about immigration. it was about the working-class, he told them that they are not forgotten that government should work for you. charlie: what do you think that government -- >> i was covering the rise of ukip, and nigel farage, and i think that is should've woken the elite to what was happening in the hinterlands. these evil are goo

rear gunner's -- ronald reagan was the chief personnel officer. in july of 1943, the first motion picture unit began production in in hollywood. the unit was mostly staffed by hollywood veterans, writers, producers, technicians, and actors. the unit operated like any hollywood studio with one major difference, all of its members were in uniform. it turned out to be a bit to run down for the purposes so they moved to another studio. it had joined the army signal cold core. legendary comedy producer and responsible for the "our gang" series. by march 1943, they reduced -- produce their first film which showed pilots examining their mistakes in the afterlife. in addition to the recruit and films, the first major motion picture unit was also in charge of overseeing combat motion. video shot by the combat cameramen was incorporated into the films and used for intelligence purposes. they had a very important job and they were on the front lines. is fromt extended clip a film the first motion picture unit's made about itself. the complete film is 20 minu

stories like that, he talked about reagan and what he liked about reagan. it wasn't anything deeply illuminating. we talked about an aye speeches and he had not prepared jet yey nothing about them and he just kept saying i want to be short, i want to be short, , editorial about william henry harrison going long and dine after only one month. we talked about kennedy and the like but it was pretty innocuous meeting. might take away is that he had almost zero understanding of american history, that you somebody of childhood television operates with gut instinct of what he sees turkeys very visual. we now all know how much he watches cable and all that. i think that is his intellectual source is cable news. he may have short attention span for the idea that he would read a book that h. w. brands book, for example, not going to happen. [laughing] >> did he seem surprised he had one? >> yes. he seemed surprised he had one in the sense he kept spinning this idea that there was voter fraud, that hitler didn't really win by 3 million because 3 million illegal people

a way to present reagan at his best, reagan was not dumb and i never thought that. what ronald reagan knew was what he stood for in general terms. he knew who he was and when things weren't going right he sensed that, a huge role in that. kind of the best of all hollywood wives and what he didn't have time to. baker was a terrific politician. in the best sense of the word, good politicians, he was the best. >> host: is trump missing a jim baker or something else you perceive as trump related to the previous presidents? >> guest: without talking which i'm happy to do, without talking about reagan's position, a striking unfamiliarity how the process of government works, it is good every once in a while to change folks, shouldn't be career physicians in that. and david sang her, what they did with donald from during the campaign. underlines how little he really knew about american foreign policy and the relationship with japan and allies. he needed people around him who knew how the process of government worked. tillerson is the kind of person in private life that some

mentioned, president reagan pointed out we were not born in simple harmony. there is something called faction. nature, forn human it is inu over there, human nature and to expect that we will live in this faction free world is to be living the impossible dream, which is impossible. i want to give examples from the constitutional convention of how you deal with faction without falling apart. what we can learn from the andtitutional convention this day of celebration of the and the signing is on september 17. the third and final point i want to explore with you in , where do we go from here? to show that there is something called the art of it is lost, when is lost, did we lose it, how did we lose it, and what to we learn about that, gaining or losing from our journey at the constitutional convention? why bother -- why bother with the journey and where do we go from here? what can be retrieved if it ought to be retrieved? that iee main points want to converse with you about. we have one hour together. what i would love to do is to sk for about half an hour and

the original tax cut, the reagan tax cut in 1981 that 1986 was the corrective for that, reagan said he wouldn't campaign against democrats who supported his bill. you don't see that anymore. suzan delbene: but we have a long-term result because people worked on it together and made decisions together. part of what i hear when i talk to folks in my district and throughout our communities is, they want kind of that stability and certainty going forward and if you end up with a lot of whiplash in policy when something gets jammed through and then there isn't the thought given to really vet things and have that debate and i'm concerned, not just on tax reform, a lot of areas, that that's where we're at right now. carl cannon: i sometimes wonder, the mythical conversation, i wonder if those muscles atrophy, if people on capitol hill know how to do what you're describing anymore. nancy pelosi didn't bring them in, barack obama, when kevin brady was talk, i was thinking, president obama said in 2009, in january, yeah i'm open to republican ideas, i really am and the republicans in the capitol

ronald reagan was the chief personnel officer. in july of 1942, the first motion picture unit began production in hollywood. the unit was mostly staffed by hollywood veterans, writers, producers, technicians, and actors. as you can see in this still, the unit operated like any hollywood studio with one major difference, all of its members were in uniform. the first film of the unit turned out to be a bit to run down for the purposes so they moved to another studio. they had joined the army signal legendary also a comedy producer and responsible for the "our gang" series. by march 1943, the first motion picture unit for the "our gang" series. produced their first film which showed pilots examining their mistakes in the afterlife. this is important that we are not going into too much say, but in addition to the recruitment films, the first major motion picture unit was also in charge overseeing combat motion in the units and it was incorporated into the films and used for intelligence purposes. they had a very important job and on t

guest: he talks about reagan in the context of this tax cut quite a bit, and we all know that reagan is the -- what is theword i'm looking for -- icon of the republican party. and that is what that is all about. it is conjuring up the good feeling from the 1980's when reagan was president and he helps try to move this process along. guest: he even uses the language of reagan. host: here is the president and his own words from an interview on tax reform. >> i think they should and i think they will. i think a lot of things are happening. i don't even like them leaving. and i will say this that i want to get it done by the end of the year. but i would be disappointed if it took that long. it could be substantially less than that depending on what happens when we send the bill back to the house. make 200 go and suggestions as opposed to knows a gesture in stash because it is a great l -- it is going to be a great bill. and we are adjusting. we are adjusting so there no way that the middle-class doesn't greatly benefit. it could be that some people in the middle class won't benefit as mu

ronald reagan didn't make excuses come even democratic-controlled congress. the president didn't spend time on twitter attacking people by name destroying them. >> guest: >> host: so you're saying that he is not seeing enough of donald trump? >> host: >> guest: i'm sayinguest co. i'g is this what conservatism has become as opposed to saying we actually stand for, let's talk about our ideas and small government, let's talk about the deficit. let's talk about that. the conversation that we are having is the conversation that in some ways we have with the left where they say donald trump is conservatism, he is the conservative movement and represents everything that you've ever stood for and i -- >> host: they feel that they've already spent years denigrating and controlling the narrative and it's easier to put him in that box. i've been discussing it discussed constantly nobody expected him to be a conservative which is maybe what the point was that we need a business man of action and so i am not arguing at all but this is about the conservative movement, this

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the united states but is he its biggest beneficiary renowned economist and former advisor to ronald reagan and to trump. and we'll also debate whether one is turning into a dictatorship. thanks for joining me on up front you've advised donald trump on his tax plan in the past a plan this administration has called the biggest tax cut in history and that you've been full of praise for you've said trump is phenomenal for the u.s. economy given this is an administration stuffed with millionaires and billionaires and led by a self-proclaimed billionaire is it any wonder that there's is seen as a tax cut of the rich by the rich for the rich that so many tax experts are saying this is a tax cut for the one percent not for the poor blue collar working class voters who trump was supposed to champion i don't think that's a correct picture whatsoever but i think it's trying to make everyone millionaires billionaires and millionaires i mean this is a plan to get everyone to economic growth and give everyone a shot at the at the apple i mean this is a place to get economic growth to take people off the

i made very good pictures of reagan. he was very easy to photograph. >> he was probably comfortable with his own image. what would you say was -- if you could pick one image that you would like to be remembered for, that you think was your most significant, what do you think that would be? mr. heikes: you're talking about events that you are covering. the kennedys and the johnsons, in the car, was great, because it was something that happened and then it was over. david signing was something that was also there, and then it was over, also. but also, i do not remember anything -- i was involved, just like i did the bobby kennedy funeral. i was there when jfk got shot. i did martin luther king's funeral. so i covered literally all of , the funerals and the assassinations, one way or another that had happened in my , career. thing was the kennedys in the car, and later and iotographing oswald, was not in place when he was shot by jack ruby. and i was not at the shooting when ronald reagan was shot. i was on the hill in the

ronald reagan was gritting his teeth. nancy reagan was rolling her eyes. gorbachev was egging him on. smoothedose feathers and when we went out reagan gave a good speech and gorbachev gave a speech and said that steve forbes is trying to exploit him. everybody thought he was trying to be humorous and laughed. they did not realize he meant it. >> it all worked out. >> talk a little bit as well about your brother, >> it all worked out. if you cou ld. you mentioned the online part of this. he has played a role in that. tim recognized more than any of us what the internet was going to do to print. we had to make adjustments. 20 years ago, we went online and most people thought that if you put a printed page online, thatm was electronic publishing. that was like 120 years ago, some people thought you filmed a stage play, that was a feature film. when movies were invented -- no way. we had separate reporting lines. we finally combined them after 10 years. we had most of our content not from the magazine. most print websites today, that is already paired in print

what were they known as, the reagan tax cuts. he didn't make excuses. democrats controlled congress. >> there were relationships, absolutely. >> yes because the president didn't spend time on twitter attacking. >> so you're saying he's not helping and obstructing because he's not seeing enough of donald trump. >> i'm actually not defending, what i'm staying is is this what conservativism has become? as opposed to saying look, let's talk about our ideas and small government and deficit. how do we make people, how do we make their lives better. donald trump, conversation you and i are having is exactly the conversation in some ways that i had with the left. the left said donald trump is conservative. he is the conservative movement. he represents everything conservatives have ever stood for. >> they feel you have already spent years controlling the narrative about what conservativism is and it's easier to put him in that box. no one has expected him to be conservative which is in fact maybe what the point was that we need a businessman of action. i'm not

i worked on books on reagan before, and reagan used to say you have to have 50% of the box office to get something done, which means your poll has to be 50%, 51% to get something through. trump is constantly operating at 35% to 40%. hence nothing is getting done. , but he steals the headline news every day because of twitter. and by playing this cultural wargame like we saw in , charlottesville, like what you are seeing with football last night. i find it a bit reprehensible, because it is pitting american against american in order to be in charge. it all began with this birther movement on obama and the theding of the wall and the making latino americans feel like lesser people by not having a meeting with john lewis to talk about civil rights. serious, and as we say on cnn, an unprecedented moment where we have a president who has gone rogue on us. he is tried to do everything he can to circumvent the law. he just knows that he has an ation ifon -- innocul he can keep 40% of the population backing anything he does. reports come out tomorrow, in short of being something so egregious