senator lindsey graham on the hill. jack with the daily beast, also the boston globe and cnn kevin murray. it's too bad we have to parse what the president said because what he said was pretty clear. send me white immigrants. please let's not have immigrants from haiti or africa. they're trying to say he wanted to have it more as a conversation about merit based. there's a way to do that without calling african countries, whether you call them s-holes or s-houses, you can do it in a different manner. now we have two senators saying he didn't do it, dick durbin saying, no. >> that would have been a news cycle in and of itself with the senators going after each other. there is a reason why senator perdue and senator cotton are evolving on this, to use senator graham's word. they also have a proposal that involves merit immigration. so there -- and they want the president to side with them. they haven't said this, but you have to know if they're defending the president, it's not out of the goodness of their hearts. there i

senator graham: ok. he still believes that? secretary nielsen: yes. senator graham: do you remember him saying the word "love"? secretary nielsen: i don't remember him saying the word "love." i remember him saying care. compassion. senator graham: well, we'll get the tape. he said love, we should do this with love. what i heard tuesday was a president who seemed to understand it had to be bipartisan. phase one is just a down payment. it needs to be comprehensive. we need to go to merit-based immigration. we need to secure our border and be fair to the immigrants and need to emphasize security but he said love. thursday. are you aware that the senator durbin and the president talked at 10:00, around that time thursday morning? secretary nielsen: only through news reporting after the fact. senator graham: ok. are you aware of the fact that dick durbin called me and said i had the best conversation with the president, we need to follow-up on it? secretary nielsen: i am aware now. senator graham: i said, gre

i think the fact that lindsey graham -- i'm curious of what happened to lindsey graham literally at the top of the hour when we started your show and now. because he sent out a press release saying he was going to vote in the affirmative for the c.r. so something must have happened that schumer was able to communicate in the last conversation with the president. so i would love to have been a fly on that wall and what switched his vote back to the no column. >> just the fact point on that is that he was willing to vote for a c.r. that had a different date. he was never willing to vote for this one. >> that's fair. that's right. >> and they were not able to switch it out to the different date. and adam explained to us the prohibitions they had to trying to pull that off. but there was, maria theresa, huge pressure on the republicans to vote for this so that the republicans in the white house could claim that only democrats stood in the way of keeping the government open and that claim evaporated in this roll call vote. >> so the republicans wanted -- the republicans and the white house w

we can do it. >> when you heard from senator graham, he praised the president. he said he was really good a week ago. i'm quoting him now, and then he says, but his staff is unreliable, and that he specifically pointed to, you know, steven miller, adviser to the white house as interfering in the process and helping to influence the president who then changed his mind a couple hours after seeming to agree to a proposal. >> senator cotton and others have a different view of what happened there. i think this was good, and initially the president and the people that were negotiating had a framework. no deportation, and let's provide some wall. not a coast to coast wall, but where the border patrol wants it, and do reform to the lottery system, and family to a more merit-based system. i thought that was a good framework to work from, and the devil is in the details and all that, and i think the team came in, and it was not strong enough for the president. but that doesn't mean walk away. that means let's keep working this out, and it probably needed to be a little mo

that's what lindsey graham is saying. now, he has been a pivotal player here between democrats and republicans, but it's not always been clear whether democrats are as onboard with what he is selling as what he has projected them to be onboard with, if that makes any sense. what i think we're going to find out over the next couple of hours is, what promises and from whom are democrats willing to accept in exchange for their votes to reopen the government. i asked him the fact whether democrats don't trust president trump is an issue, and graham keeps going back to the point, and as you heard from susan collins, too, the idea the senate has to be the senate. ons holding out for an aeement the house will vote on, the president will certainly support, we could be in the shutdown for a very long time, but if senators are willing to come to an agreement amongst themselves to debate, to work on a bill, to maybe get something going, not 100% agreement on any specific piece of legislation, but for the senate to operate as the sen

we haven't heard from senator graham. he's somebody who a year ago when i first covered this white house was a real voice against some of what donald trump was pushing and doing recently in the last couple of months he has made himself an ally of this president. what does he have to say about this? that's what we're waiting to find out. >> how far is the white house willing to go to deny the president said this? are they willing to go on the record calling dick durbin a liar? >> they haven't yet. i just asked -- you know, i was up talking with -- i was talking with a white house source and the line was listen, there are senators who have no recollection of that comment being made. and would not go so far as to say that senator durbin was a liar. i think that is sort of territory that nobody wants to touch just yet at this point. a lot of folks in the white house, at least this source is laying out what we know so far which is the president tweeting, he used tough language, acknowledging it, but not this kind of language t

, graham/durbin. we'll call it durbin/graham because you're here. you say you handled all of this, all of the assets the president has but i want to get to chain migration and family myration. the real dispute does it apply just to the daca population or does it apply to all immigration overall? are you at all open to having larger changes to theism gracious law in the daca negotiations? >> the president made it clear on the january 9th meeting, he agreed with us there should be two fadeses. let's deal with the problem which he created on september 5th by eliminating daca, deadline march 5th. just a few weeks ago. let's sol that have problem now and not all the problems of immigration, and, yes, we did include a provision related to family reunification which breaks my heart. >> only applying to this population. >> that's right. >> they say it should apply entire immigration system. >> and senator cotton wants to reduce legal immigration into the united states. i'm not one of those people. my mother w

more so than lindsey graham or flake or me. how do you get legislation passed if you're out there calling them dishonest and disingenuous and they want open borders and you see the web ad saying that they're complicit in the murders committed by illegal immigrants. >> which maybe helped president trump and his staff feel in their hearts and maybe we're just all in denial about it. it is entirely possible. the reality is he can continue to sign waivers. that is a choice he can make. he's done that on iran. it is a little lower key than getting legislation passed or not. democrats, if you're being entirely cynical, will have a huge rallying cry for the base if there is still uncertainty around daca. most look at the options. you know, will something pass through senate? it seems hard. it seems hard for that to happen and especially since we have no idea where trump is. >> what do you think happens in two and a half weeks? do you think mitch mcconnell, let's assume, that they don't come one an agreement on this massive immigration

that is exactly what senator graham and i did. that does not mean that we have made up our minds about what happened. it is possible mr. steele told the truth and the other contradictory statements that we saw were wrong. but just like any court would do, we start by assuming that government documents are true until we see evidence to the contrary. if those documents are not true and there are serious discrepancies that are no fault of mr. steele, then we have another problem, and arguably a more serious problem. of course, even aside from these inconsistencies, the public reports about the way the f.b.i. may have used the dossier should give everyone in this chamber pause. director comey testified in 2017 that that dossier was, quote-unquote, salacious and unverified. if it was unverified in 2017, then it had to be unverified in 2016 as well. so it was a collection of unverified opposition research funded by a political opponent in an election year. would it be proper for the obama administration -- or, for ma --, for that matter

. >> did you hear senator graham use profanity? >> i did hear tough language from senator graham, yes, sir. >> do you recall the strong language he used repeated what he heard the president say prior to that? >> i remember specific cuss words being used by a variety of members. >> kacie hunt is on capitol hill where she has been following this. wow, kacie, i mean, i've rarely seen a hearing like this. there was drama. there was emotion. cory booker, i mean, he has a very dramatic moment. tell us a little bit more about what secretary nielsen had to say. >> essentially, chris, i think the sound bite you just played e encapsulated what this hearing was like. from all the senators we have talked to, it has strained credibility and credulity. there clearly have been disputes about exactly what was said. at this point, senator durbin has been saying that he stands by his account of what happened in the meeting. and he pressed the dhs secretary as well on just what lindsey graham had said. you've heard a little bit of that at the end the

but the reason graham has done that, he argues, is because he is the president and graham's hope was that the president can be convinced to do things like immigration reform. >> sure. >> and despite the fact, brooke, that graham is saying in this statement he still hopes some kind of many gracioimmigration done for d.r.e.a.m.ers, he has to know this makes it so much harder. and no question. i believe the idea that someone like lindsey graham condemned the president for saying this in private. but that doesn't answer the question of whether or not people like graham are just going to throw up their hands and say i give up. i tried. i tried to make the best of the president that we have. the president that was elected by the american people and the electoral college. and at the end of the day even i can't make this work. we'll see. >> what i can't get past, right, to your point if lindsey graham is challenging him, the only indicati indication is the man said it, you have senators saying i don't recall, and so cornell h the president's denial, the lying, and not only that, and the twee

he has ideas, senator graham said, that wouldn't ever get 60 votes in the senate. we've reached out for previous. he is not making phone calls with republicans or democrats like he was yesterday, or talking to staff about the details of any kind of budget deal. we did see that tweet earlier when the president discussed any kind of option. the president changing rules instead of requiring 60 votes for a budget deal, a simple 51 majority. we have heard from some republican senators, including. they don't think this is necessary and they don't think they will. see if the president weighs in on the optimism and criticism we heard from lindsey graham this afternoon. >> and adviser steven miller, lindsey graham going as far as saying, with his involvement, steven miller, we will never get there. meaning some progress on these proposa proposals. bori srngs sanchez, appreciate it from the white house. >>> let's learned where the front yard is. >> joining me now. >>> so dave, your sentiments on what with haerpd from susan collins, lisa measure cow ski, theed to do md. it's

, graham/durbin. we'll call it durbin/graham because you're here. you say you handled all of this, all of the assets the president has but i want to get to chain migration and family migration. it seems to me the real dispute does it apply just to the daca population or does it apply to all immigration overall? are you at all open to having larger changes to the immigration law in the daca negotiations? >> the president made it clear on the january 9th meeting, he agreed with us there should be two phases. let's deal with the problem which he created on september 5th by eliminating daca, deadline march 5th. just a few weeks away. let's sol that have problem now and not all the problems of immigration. and, yes, we did include a provision related to family reunification which breaks my heart. we have said -- >> only applying to this population. >> that's right. >> they say it should apply entire immigration system. >> you're going do have senator cotton wants to reduce legal immigration into the united

. >> did you hear senator graham use profanity? >> i did hear tough language from senator graham, yes, sir. >> the president ran hot. i think i know why. something happened between tuesday and thursday, and we'll get to the bottom of that. and quite frankly, i got pretty passionate and i ran a little hot, too. somebody needs to fix this problem. obama couldn't do it, bush couldn't do it, and both of them, to their great credit, tried. do you think president trump can do this? >> i think he wants to do it, yes, sir. >> our chief white house correspondent jim acosta is over at the white house. jim, we've heard conflicting stories. denial, denial, denial. where does this stand now? >> the president was meeting with the president of kaz aakhsn in the last hour or so. they were exchanging words, as you so often see with the president and a head of state here at the white house. and at the end of their remarks, at the conclusion of their remarks, we tried to ask the president about this controversy over his describing countries from afri

, is, katherine graham's internal journey. and this other stuff is a suspense thriller. about relevant issues. to me. it is a nonpartisan film. i dent see why any republican wouldn't like this movie. it's -- except if they love nixon. >> the movie blends news reports and telephone recordings of president richard nextson. >> "the washington post" is never to be in the white house is that clear. >> with pour trails of the people behind the stories. like, the reporter. an outspoken critic of the nixon administration. and attacks on the media help track down the classified documents. >> the media, already, wonderful. are being made a scapegoat. for ironic reasons. scapegoat by the administration, clearly. >> i'm proudest of just showing bunch of professional journalists at work, argh going and fighting and trying to figure out what they, what they have a right to do and what's right. >> you celebrate the best parts of journalism. which is finding out what the truth is. >> my character is the true believer, the reporter, just wants

senator lindsey graham is speaking right now. i just want to play that. >> it's a bad day for the military according to general mattis. i think the real world needs to deal with the 800,000 daca recipients and the overwhelming need to rebuild our military and increase funding that's going to get us there within a month. >> -- first time that you're feeling optimistic? the first time today? >> this is the first time i've felt like, okay, enough is enough fromeverybody. the president is going to get -- gr graham/durbin is going to be made law. it was a good proposal. i think it can be made better. we're going to get hopefully more things for the president, and there will be more relief coming on the other side. the idea of letting this continue to fester is unacceptable to most americans, and i think now to the congress as a whole. march 5th is the drop-dead date for 800,000 people who voluntarily came out of the shadows and passed a criminal background check. i don't think anybody wants to ruin their lives. and if you don't unders

lindsey graham was there. and my understanding from reporting, he was upset as well he said in a statement, i said my peace to the president after his comment. did he say something to president trump? >> it was an extraordinary moment. after the president made these outrageous statements, with these vulgarities, i was sitting to the left of lindsey, lindsey was sitting closer to the president than we're sitting, he turned to him and addressed that directly. directly. and what i thought was one of the best statements about immigration policy in america that i've ever heard. he explicitly repeated that vulgarity so that there was clear why he was making this statement, and told him since -- i want to say it again publicly, i respect him so much for speaking out. i think it had added importance that the member of the president's own party would be that explicit in standing up for what i think is a value that most americans have to share. >> what did he say? >> well, he basically went through it and said, let me t

neither is there any daylight between dick durbin and lindsey graham. >> laura: why does lindsey graham get to go on television and claim there's a bipartisan deal, but the president rejected it when it's graham and flake. and then you throw on susan collins. again, i'm sure they're all really nice people, they do not track the president's team on immigration. that harvard harris poll shows that the american people want immigration levels, even legal immigration levels. the president is squarely in the mainstream. lindsey graham is a radical fanatic on amnesty. he has been for more than 20 years. i'm not being harsh here. >> a quick antidote. he is on the fringe on this. the polls show it. i was in south carolina. and from there purity was my senator . at our state convention, 2,000 republicans booing lindsey graham for his stance on immigration because he wants open borders and amnesty. he always has, and hits his head right to have a decision. don't pretend as though you had to have a meeting of the minds of dick durbin and you gave up something to get something. you guys, dick durbin

she does rumor senator lindsey graham lindsey graham using strong language. senator lindsey graham then went into an interesting line of questioning basically asking kirstjen nielsen where was the tuesday donald trump? the thursday donald trump. she said i don't know where that guy went he said but i want him back talking about tuesday, the president in that bipartisan, bicameral meeting. david has been on the couch right now saying he was talking about a bill of love. and what happened he was asking between tuesday and thursday, what is senator lindsey graham trying to say here? >> david: that's a good question. i don't exactly know. i think part of it is lindsey graham is trying to find a way of dancing around the fact that he used the same kind of -- he used hellhole is we were talking about before to describe those countries south of the border from which we should try to limit the number of immigrants coming here. so he essentially, lindsey graham, the guy who was just chastising president trump for changing his rhetoric, just kind of used a little dance

you have lyndsey graham, thank you senate tv. we'll go back to that picture when they give it to us. lyndsey graham have been shoveling back and forth between the two caucuses. republicans are on the bottom of your screen. that's their side of the chamber. lyndsey graham is over in the chuck schumer and friends area among democrats. elizabeth warren just over lyndsey graham's shoulder has h been talking along with him. you can tell he's been looking up to his right and calling attention on the clock that's over the clerk's chair and the president of the senate. we put conveniently that clock in the lower right hand part of your screen showing just over 6 minutes remaining until midnight. they must know they have something of a national audience of concerned citizens. as i always say in politics, the american people are the customers and the bosses when you are in politics. we are all watching this as customers and their bosses, as the people who put all 100 members of this body into office. jonath jonathan lamier remains with us,

lindsey graham was just seen mouthing what's going on. so i ask the same question of you. >> i hope we find out in a few minutes. yes, schumer -- the majority leader mitch mcconnell and the senate minority leader chuck schumer had been stationed a few feet away for a long period of time, 20 minutes, a half hour or so. now schumer has moved over. he is standing near mitch mcconnell. the other camera angle gave us a bit of a better shot that they were speaking. mcconnell is still at his lectern. there is now a bipartisan group of senators gathered round listening into what is being discussed and potentially what is soon to be announced. schumer is now, as you can see, has turned back and moved away from his republican counterpart, moving to his own lectern. >> this is your government at work. now, manila folders are being opened. senators are doing their best. this is a full-on scurry to scurry back to their positions. >> that was more of a scurry than a mosey. >> okay. for some, scurrying is more difficult than others. that's whitehouse of

. >> did senator graham use profanity? >> i did hear tough language from senator graham, yes, sir. >> what did he say? >> he used tough language. he was impassioned. i think he was feeling very strongly about the issue, as was everyone in the room. and to underscore a point, i think he was using some strong language. >> do you all there the strong language he used repeated exactly what the president had said fryer that? >> i remember specific cuss words being used by a variety of members. >> republican senator lindsey graham participated in that hearing today. he kept his focus mostly on immigration policy and avoided specifically quoting the words that the president used in the oval office. but he did say this about senator dick durbin, who has quoted the president as referring to all of the countries of africa as shithole country cans. >> dick durbin has been one of the best people you could ever hope to work with, that he is a decent honest man, a liberal democrat. yeah, he said yeah. and i'm a conservative republican.

senator graham: ok. he still believes that? secretary nielsen: yes. senator graham: do you remember him saying the word "love"? secretary nielsen: i don't remember him saying the word "love." i remember him saying care. i've heard him use love before. compassion. senator graham: well, we'll get the tape. he said love, we should do this with love. what i heard tuesday was a president who seemed to understand it had to be bipartisan. phase one is just a down payment. it needs to be comprehensive. we need to go to merit-based immigration. we need to secure our border and be fair to the immigrants and need to emphasize security but he said love. thursday. are you aware that the senator durbin and the president talked at 10:00, around that time thursday morning? secretary nielsen: only through news reporting after the fact. senator graham: ok. are you aware of the fact that dick durbin called me and said i had the best conversation with the president, we need to follow-up on it? secretary nielsen: i am aware

we're stuck sfwrrn lindsey graham was just seen mouthing "what's going on?" so i ask the same question of you. >> i hope we find in a few mimms. charles schumer had been stationed a few feet away for a long bpt. he is standing near mcmcconnell. >> listening is what is potentially to be discussed and then announced. turner has turned back and move away from his counter lek tern. >> now, manila folders are being old. this is a full-on scurry, sfrj i guess here comes flake for another orbit. but it looks like bem mcconnell just voted no. the vote was open until the marriage leader et. >> any senators wishing to change their vote? the yeas are 50 and 49. three first of the centers not havesi build the green to. >> i had a social a part of the statement of the white house press secretary tonight, presumably on behalf of the administration, simply says we will not negotiate the status of unlawful immigrants while democrats hold our lawful citizens hostage oaf their reckless demands. that appropriately represents the white house view where we are and, mr. president,

, is, katherine graham's internal journey. and this other stuff is a suspense thriller. about relevant issues. to me. it is a nonpartisan film. i dent see why any republican wouldn't like this movie. it's -- except if they love nixon. >> the movie blends news reports and telephone recordings of president richard nextson. >> "the washington post" is never to be in the white house is that clear.pour trails of th people behind the stories. an outspoken critic of the nixon administration. and attacks on the media help track down the classified documents. >> the media, already, wonderful. are being made a scapegoat. for ironic reasons. scapegoat by the administration, clearly. >> i'm proudest of just showing bunch of professional journalists at work, argh going and fighting and trying to figure out what they, what they have a right to do and what's right. >> you celebrate the best parts of journalism. which is finding out what the truth is. >> my character is the true believer, the reporter, just wants the story. and just wants to

when i interviewed lindsey graham this morning. he said tom cotton was turning into the steve king of the senate, a reference to probably the single most hard line member of congress on immigration. he said his immigration views, cotton's immigration views were a non-starter. tom cotton does not talk to television cameras. today he sought out the cameras to respond to lindsey graham t. difference between steve king and lindsey graham, he said steve king with win in iowa. he said more on what trump ran on and cotton intends to hold the president to those promises. the fact that those two men are standing within swinging arm distance of each other is probably a good sign. it's at least an interesting one. the body language doesn't look great, if lande say graham and tom cotton are talking about the contours of anything that has to do with immigration, again, something is in the works. >> sheldon whitehouse is moseying over to the republican side of the u.s. senate, garrett, thank you. this moment cries out for a learned smart man and

a duck by lindsey graham or dodge, kind of. he makes it seem as if the whole problem is steven miller. >> president trump saying he would accept whatever bipartisan deal is in front of him. he walks that back. then said some kind of outline after deal. with chuck schumer. he appeared to walk that back too. does the president know what he wants? >> not with any great detail, i think. and that's okay. incidentally, i think there is a deal tonight. just looking what you all are reporting and others. if there is, senators and members of the house are working out a deal. what are the striking things? i'm not sure about this. but my sense is meetings going on, the president isn't involved and i'm not sure senior white house negotiators are there. one of the problems, i think this is true of republican senators and members of congress but in general just too much deference to the president. if they -- they are elected, senators are elected, representatives are elected. they should govern. >> and to pick up on that, if they were to com

very little else from graham or folks close to him. you know, when i talked to him this morning for about 15 minutes, he had clearly taken some time over the weekend to think about the best path forward from here, to think about how he can avoid making this episode even more damaging to these negotiations moving forward, and the way he decided to do that is by declining to explicitly confirm these comments but to say, you know, that my memory hasn't evolved, clearly a pointed job at senators cotton and perdue over this. but he is very careful not to cross a line and not to reach a point of no return, to balance his frustration with what he said was a very different donald trump on thursday than what we had seen two days earlier in that televised bipartisan meeting. he doesn't want to upset the relationship that he's built for several months now. he's courted the president on the golf course. this was really what it was all about, and he doesn't want to let all that effort go to waste just over one comment that he found clearly very ups

, is, katherine graham's internal journey. and this other stuff is a suspense thriller. about relevant issues. to me. it is a nonpartisan film. i dent see why any republican wouldn't like this movie. it's -- except i nixon. >> the movie blends news reports and telephone recordings of president richard nextson. >> "the washington post" is never to be in the white house is that clear. >> with pour trails of the people behind the stories. like, the reporter. an outspoken critic of the nixon administration. and attacks on the media help track down the classified documents. >> the media, already, wonderful. are being made a scapegoat. for ironic reasons. scapegoat by the administration, clearly. >> i'm proudest of just showing bunch of professional journalists at work, argh going and fighting and trying to figure out what they, what they have a right to do and what's right. >> you celebrate the best parts of journalism. which is finding out what the truth is. >> my character is the true believer, the reporter, just wants the story.

heard that lindsey graham sound bite. i thought that was fascinating how he said listen, the president is surrounded by ideologues who couldn't get 60 votes whom. have outlier positions that couldn't get 60 votes. that the problem that the president is signalling to lindsey graham and others that he wants a bill of hearts or a bill of love as we heard just a couple of weeks ago, but the people close to him who helped him get elected on restrictionist immigration policies have his ear. >> i think what we're seeing right snow you have lindsey graham who is on one side of the water and the president who is appealing to the base that got him into the white house. lindsey graham is asking him to do something that is more extreme of a concession than barack obama would have made to ted cruz in 2013. so the idea that somehow the president is being, you know, off base here is i think frankly ridiculous and should be dismissed out of hand here. i think what's happening instead is you see republicans thinking to themselves wait a m

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. >> did you hear senator graham use profanity? >> i did hear tough language from senator graham. yes, sir. >> what did he say? >> he used tough language. he was impassioned. i think he was feeling very strongly about the issue as was everyone in the room, and to underscore a point, i think he was using some strong language. >> do you recall that the strong language he used repeated exactly what the president had said prior to that? >> i remember specific cusswords being used. >> and the insider steve bannon recently thrown off the trump train, answering questions behind closed doors this hour at the house intelligence committee, as the president's closest aide hope hicks and his former campaign manager corey lewandowski both get ready for their turns in a few days. >> i have nothing to hide. i didn't collude or cooperate or coordinate with any russians, russian agency or russian government or anybody else to try to impact this election. >>> good day. i'm andrea mitchell in vancouver, where the united states and canada are hosting a high stakes summit trying to find a diplomatic w

became katherine graham. and the fold-in of all the, you know, a president that was trying to thwart the truth, attacking and delegitimizing the press, carrying it all the way to the supreme court, as well as the reality of what a woman faced in the board room when things are supposed for ameritcracy. put that all together, and this ends up being a cauldron for 2018 now, that when you can go back and study history and see how it relates to now, you realize this ongoing fight to form a more perfect union is as american as apple pie. >> i'm struck by what you see, it's the week that katherine graham became katherine graham. and she did become one of these -- the most amazing ceos who believed in equality, that was good for the business, and she was brave because she went against her own group of friends, her own tribe. she was so friendly with robert mcnamara and all the cabinet secretaries. when you tried to internalize that, and you always do a great job of looking and sounding exactly like her. what were you

very little else from graham or folks close to him. you know, when i talked to him this morning for about 15 minutes, he had clearly taken some time over the weekend to think about the best path forward from here, to think about how he can avoid making this episode even more damaging to these negotiations moving forward. and the way he decided to do that is by declining to explicitly confirm these comments, but to say, you know, that my memory hasn't evolved. clearly a pointed jab at senators cotton and purdue over this. but he is very careful not to cross the line and not to reach a point of no return, to balance his frustration with what he said was a very different donald trump on thursday than what we had seen two days earlier in that televised bipartisan meeting. he doesn't want to upset the relationship that he's built for several months now. he's courted the president on the golf course. you know, this was really what it was all about, and he doesn't want to let all of that effort go to waste just over, you know, one comment tha

>> in a way it is but also lindsey graham, senator graham -- you have to look at how all these people deal with president trump as under -- with the feeling and the understanding that president trump is going to be president tomorrow and the next day and the next day. >> they have to work with him. >> they have to work with him. that's why, you know, on my sunday show, state of the union, congresswoman love, critical of what president trump had to say, wanted to emphasize that they need to come to a deal. one of the things going on is that there is the feeling among people who are in this bipartisan group, the gang of six, trying to come up with a bill that can pass the senate. and, likely, by the way, with more democrats than republicans because most republicans seem to have a position on immigration that would alienate any democratic votes. if you need to get to the 60-vote margin the way that the votes are is a center bill that most republicans wouldn't go for. president trump said that he wanted an immigration compromise. durbin and lindsey graham and the others in the gang of six

senator graham has already said something similar, right? my misunderstanding that they were just four letters? >> harris: there were only three letters. >> charles: and the sentiment is the same. but i think the real thing is just whatever this guy says. >> harris: why didn't anyone go against graham? >> kennedy: to eternal and the home of evil is much worse than bodily fluid. the more offensive term. >> sandra: president from preparing to head to a major battleground state this week. this comes as a key trump ally has a stark message for republicans about the upcoming midterm. we will have more on that. plus, g.o.p. lawmaker answering questions over the anti-trump dossier and whether the obama administration knew the dnc was funding it with surveillance from term campaign officials. we will talk about that. your brain changes as you get older. but prevagen helps your brain with an ingredient originally discovered... in jellyfish. in clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve short-term memory. prevagen. the name to remember. ♪ k

but the story that i wanted to tell was a story of kay graham, and then the story of how kay graham and ben bradlee became the superhero team that we know them as. and this was really the beginning of this team. this is the team that led to watergate. >> brown: indeed, the pentagon papers story was followed just a year later by the watergate break-in that would lead to the downfall of president nixon-- not to mention another famous film about the "washington post." for the pbs newshour, i'm jeffrey brown in washington. >> woodruff: on the newshour online right now, supreme court justice ruth bader ginsburg was asked about her experience with sexual harassment during a q&a at the sundance film festival this weekend. you can watch her answer and hear her thoughts about the "me too" movement on our web site, pbs.org/newshour. and that's the newshour for tonight. i'm judy woodruff. join us online and again here tomorrow evening. for all of us at the pbs newshour, thank you and see you soon. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >> babbel. a language app that teaches re

in graham never did. sometimes he had his own relationship with the powerful but it came up from the grassroots really you cannot credit preachers having totally novel ideas. there were all kinds of things that proceeded it like the terrible textbook the war in the county of west virginia or the upsurge of conservativism in southern california. all kinds of things. then issues began to appear. and here he at the novelties of the 60s. some feminism to the protest against the wars from women dressing in blue jeans and guys wearing their hair long. it all came at once and it was huge and the issues were enormous and added to by the supreme court which really was trying to make the state of or neutral arbiter for the religious groups between those religious groups and nonreligious people. so what all happened at the same time. but it was a bit delayed because the reaction came in the 80s and at that point falwell, with the help of these operatives from washington d.c. had their own little conservative pack wa

the senator lindsey graham who raised this concern today about one of the president's ste seni aides, steven miller. >> i've talked with the president. his heart is right on this issue. i think he's got a good understanding of what will sell and every time we have a proposal, only yanked back by staff members. as long as steven miller is in charge of negotiating immigration, we're going nowhere. he'soutlier for years. there's a deal to be had. >> so the white house was pushing back on that tonight as well as some of the white house's allies. senator tom cotton, saying it's a way to impugn the president himself. a sign that this effort to reach a bipartisan deal, if it is reach ed in the senate, will still need the support from others in the republican party including the white house and there's no indication whether the white house is on board with this proposal from this group of senators. negotiating still to be had in the coming hours here. >> okay, thank you. let's check in with the white house. get the latest from boris sanchez who i understand quhyou just got reaction from the w

we had lindsey graham being lindsey graham again speaking out against the president's staff. we've got the shutdown looming in three days. it feels like, like something is happening. >> well, we've seen the president's attempt to corrode basic constitutional norms over the past year. that's been a concern. but now we're actually seeing again, the united states senator who i've always liked and had great respect for, actually denying something that all of washington knows happened. fox news even said it happened. you know why? because the president of the united states, according to conservatives, was calling around after it happened, bragging about using the words that senator cotton now denies that he used. white house officials even said that the word or variation of the word was used. and so -- that's, that's bad. obviously that's concerning. but then you have the secretary of the department of homeland security testifying that she remembers everything in the meeting except for this one thing that everybody remembers in the meeting and she even remembers lindsey graham usi

lindsey graham knows it. why he would behave in this manner is just -- i can't explain it. >> i think a lot of people are baffled. jennifer rubin and evan mcmullin, thanks so much for your time tonight. >>> next, two -- what two-shirted strategic genius steve bannon loses two jobs in one day. and we covered it, july first, twenty-fifteen. talk to farmers. we know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪ but he hasoke up wwork to do.in. so he took aleve. if he'd taken tylenol, he'd be stopping for more pills right now. only aleve has the strength to stop tough pain for up to 12 hours with just one pill. aleve. all day strong. >>> you've got this, when you say he's created this kind of oprah thing to set up to run against him in 2020, because of just his tweets or maybe his -- the way he comports himself, isn't his actions, whether it's destroying isis in the middle east, or rebuilding the economy here, unlocking the animal spirits of the american peo

we all know that one specific word that senator graham -- that lindsey graham apparently confirmed that the president used. do you think she was telling the truth when she said she couldn't remember? >> whether she believed she was telling the truth, it was inherently unbelievable. for someone to fail to recollect, basic memory, a statement that dramatic by the president was not united states, or the absence of it, defied belief. that's why democrats were frustrated and infuriated. she wanted to move on in response to the question i asked, she said specifically she wanted to avoid that further questioning on it. but words matter. the president doesn't speak for me when he talks like that. and i don't think he talks for most americans. >> let's talk about steve bannon, appearing for hours today behind closed doors before the house intelligence committee, and now according to "the new york times" subpoenaed to appear before a federal grand jury by the special counsel robert mueller. what does it tell you about mueller's mood right now, about mueller's strategy? >> robert mueller is moving