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charlottesville was one of those moments. a perfect storm. people talking about it. none of this is new to historians, but i think for others in america to sort of wake up, let's talk about confederate monitor -- monuments, especially those outside the south, there are so many of them. for those who did not know the history, even southerners who did not know the history. one fact is that these monuments were not erected right after the war, they were erected or years later, 50 years later and that fact came through against to that question, how do we talk about these things that are not what we thought they were. they mean different things to different people. to me that gets to the question of where historians can step in and say, here's how we interpret facts that are new or different or that conflict with opinions we thought we held, historians we thought we knew. i am also interested in what has happened on the research side with the digitization of so many archives, what as i've done for the collection? jane: it has been extremely confusing and complicated for p
charlottesville was one of those moments. a perfect storm. people talking about it. none of this is new to historians, but i think for others in america to sort of wake up, let's talk about confederate monitor -- monuments, especially those outside the south, there are so many of them. for those who did not know the history, even southerners who did not know the history. one fact is that these monuments were not erected right after the war, they were erected or years later, 50 years later and...
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charlottesville tweeted that city staff removed the shrouds this morning. ruledrcuit court judge the decision came during a hearing in a lawsuit against the city over the thames to remove the monuments. british from minister theresa may flatly rejected a proposal by the european union for northern ireland to remain aligned with the republic after britain exits the bloc. lashed out at the u.s. -- at the house of commons, yesterday. >> it would undermine the u.k. common market and threaten constitutional integrity of the u.k. by creating a customs and regulatory order and no u.k. prime minister could ever agree to it. mark: the eu unveiled its first draft of a brexit legal agreement today, outlining what issue still need to be worked out. says she will may make it clear that northern ireland will not have different customs rules to the rest of the u.k.. global news, 24 hours a day, powered by over 2700 journalists and analysts in more than 120 countries. this is bloomberg. it is noon in new york, 5:00 in london and 1:00 a.m. in hong kong. i am vonnie quinn. >
charlottesville tweeted that city staff removed the shrouds this morning. ruledrcuit court judge the decision came during a hearing in a lawsuit against the city over the thames to remove the monuments. british from minister theresa may flatly rejected a proposal by the european union for northern ireland to remain aligned with the republic after britain exits the bloc. lashed out at the u.s. -- at the house of commons, yesterday. >> it would undermine the u.k. common market and threaten...
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and if you went from charlottesville to d.c., d.c. back to lynchburg, lynchburg back to washington, and then back to charlottesville, that's pretty close to bein' 669 miles. >> reporter: t's quite a coincidence so police question elizabeth again. >> we asked her about that miles. and she said that they had gotten lost. >> that's pretty lost? >> yeah, pretty lost. >> that ring true to you? >> well, i mean, we're talking college kids. didn't put a lot of stock in that. >> reporter: plus elizabeth is cooperating with police and agrees to give her fingerprints and blood. but it's a path of bloody of footprints in the hay some -- haysoms' front yard that's gotten the investigators' attention. the prints were revealed by luminol, a chemical that tests for the presence of blood. >> you have a set of prints that walk up to the driveway and end here at the driveway as if someone got in a car. >> just stop? >> they just stop. >> clearly they got into something? >> reporter: but when investigator reid examines jens and elizabeth's rental car, he
and if you went from charlottesville to d.c., d.c. back to lynchburg, lynchburg back to washington, and then back to charlottesville, that's pretty close to bein' 669 miles. >> reporter: t's quite a coincidence so police question elizabeth again. >> we asked her about that miles. and she said that they had gotten lost. >> that's pretty lost? >> yeah, pretty lost. >> that ring true to you? >> well, i mean, we're talking college kids. didn't put a lot of stock...
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the train has returned to charlottesville, and the lawmakers are taken to the retreat on buses, congressional leaders are going on with the retreat, with an adjusted schedule, which includes a moment of prayer for those up volved in crash. lauren, reporting for "chasing news." bill: thank you, a member of congress on that train. tom mccarther welcome back to "chasing news" i am glad to hear you are okay. >> yes, very unfortunate, a few people taken off of the train in stretchers, i believe that people in the truck one of the people of the killed. a lot of debris. pretty traumatic crash. bill: what happened from your perspective? you are sitting, catching a couple of z's, what is happening? >> the train itself was an amtrak, so it was the just house and senate republicans on our way to off site retreat. we were just you know moving along. suddenly there was a grinding sort of a crash, everything just went flying. took a little bit i think for people to realize, we looked out the left side of the train. we hit a truck. there was you know truck was mangled and debris everywhere. bill: did you fa
the train has returned to charlottesville, and the lawmakers are taken to the retreat on buses, congressional leaders are going on with the retreat, with an adjusted schedule, which includes a moment of prayer for those up volved in crash. lauren, reporting for "chasing news." bill: thank you, a member of congress on that train. tom mccarther welcome back to "chasing news" i am glad to hear you are okay. >> yes, very unfortunate, a few people taken off of the train in...
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we have just a woman, trump charlottesville huckabee spicer remember be an end. and this one it's hard to see because it's james comey. this is just the time he came out and he got fired and everybody said he's a hero, we failed to remember that he is the one that decided to announce that he was reopening the investigation into hillary. that's the reason i stuck half of them in there. mcconnell the supreme court nominees and of course the three wives. and of course eric's fun. and of course pants and trump again. reporters. okay. do you see him as wrong or evil. i'm just wondering i did the republican leadership as evil. has your perception of him changed. i think it's an opportunist. that's what i've always done in my work. i think is a lot of faults. he is an opportunist in the worst sense. he will say anything to get what he wants. but he has a lot of people around him that are enabling him to do that. that's him. as you make him blah cheer and blotch year gets more and more discussing. i do make him more and more blotchy. yes, i do. the post i come up with th
we have just a woman, trump charlottesville huckabee spicer remember be an end. and this one it's hard to see because it's james comey. this is just the time he came out and he got fired and everybody said he's a hero, we failed to remember that he is the one that decided to announce that he was reopening the investigation into hillary. that's the reason i stuck half of them in there. mcconnell the supreme court nominees and of course the three wives. and of course eric's fun. and of course...
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what was it about charlottesville that crossed a red line for you? >> it violated the dignity of the office, the essence of who we are as americans, and it was a fundamental assault on the notion of how we deal with hate and how we deal with venomous people. when you have people coming out of fields carrying torches, singing the same exact verse that was sung by the nazis in berlin and munich, and white supremacists standing alongside them, and with those people objecting to it, and making a moral equivalence, there's good people on both. that message is sent to our children. our children are listening, for god's sake, let alone the message it sends around the world. >> what happens when the president is credibly reported to have described the entire continent of africa as s-hole countries? >> it absolutely damaged -- you see the polling now, how we have dropped in terms of the report relative to other nations since he's been president. one of the reasons hewe've beeno respected and followed by so many countries is not just the example of our power,
what was it about charlottesville that crossed a red line for you? >> it violated the dignity of the office, the essence of who we are as americans, and it was a fundamental assault on the notion of how we deal with hate and how we deal with venomous people. when you have people coming out of fields carrying torches, singing the same exact verse that was sung by the nazis in berlin and munich, and white supremacists standing alongside them, and with those people objecting to it, and...
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lee. - in charlottesville, virginia, where protests are turning violent. - at least one person is dead after a car plowed into a group of counter-protesters. but you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. i think there's blame on both sides, and i have no doubt about it, and you don't have any doubt about it either. - like, i know that this happened a week ago, but i'm not gonna lie. i'm--i'm still processing everything. you know, first of all, a racist neo-nazi killed a peacefully protesting woman with his car, right? then the president of the united states defended the neo-nazis who that dude was marching with. and this is the thing. it's not once, but twice. like, donald trump said it. then three days later, he came back and said, "hey, hey, you know how i-- "i said that nazi-defending thing? "well, i just realized that, um, i--i messed up. "i didn't defend them enough. yeah. yeah. my support was here, and i was trying to get it here." [laughter] yeah. - fallout continues from president trump's racist remarks about certain countries during an immigration meeting.
lee. - in charlottesville, virginia, where protests are turning violent. - at least one person is dead after a car plowed into a group of counter-protesters. but you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. i think there's blame on both sides, and i have no doubt about it, and you don't have any doubt about it either. - like, i know that this happened a week ago, but i'm not gonna lie. i'm--i'm still processing everything. you know, first of all, a racist neo-nazi killed a...
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and that -- if you went from charlottesville -- to d.c., d.c. back to lynchburg, d.c. -- lynchburg back to washington and then back to charlottesville, that's pretty close to bein' 669 miles. >> reporter: it's quite a coincidence. so, police question elizabeth again. >> we asked her about that miles. and she said that they had gotten lost. >> reporter: that's pretty lost. >> yeah, pretty lost. >> reporter: that ring true to you? >> i mean, we're talking college kids. didn't put a lot of stock in that. >> reporter: plus, elizabeth is cooperating with police and agrees to give her fingerprints and blood. but it's a path of bloody of footprints in the haysom's front yard that's gotten the investigators' attention. the prints were revealed by luminol, a chemical that tests for the presence of blood. >> you have a set of prints that walk up to the driveway and end here at the driveway as if someone got in a car. >> reporter: just stop? >> they just stop. >> reporter: so, clearly, they got into something. but when investigator reid examines jens and e
and that -- if you went from charlottesville -- to d.c., d.c. back to lynchburg, d.c. -- lynchburg back to washington and then back to charlottesville, that's pretty close to bein' 669 miles. >> reporter: it's quite a coincidence. so, police question elizabeth again. >> we asked her about that miles. and she said that they had gotten lost. >> reporter: that's pretty lost. >> yeah, pretty lost. >> reporter: that ring true to you? >> i mean, we're talking...
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it crashed near charlottesville, virginia at 11:20 am. that is 125 miles southwest of washington, d.c. lauren blanchard joins us from the scene, and virginia with more on what happened. >> reporter: we are expecting an update from the ntsb in the next 30 minutes or so. i will get out of the way so you can see what this scene must have been earlier today. that is the other half of the dump truck. the backend of the train that lawmakers were on has been taken out of the area. a ton of debris on the ground and lawmakers who were on the train say when it hits, they felt a tremendous jolt.>> the shock of the collision was such that you are not braced for it. it was fairly severe and it through a lot of people's heads into the seas, people felt on.>> reporter: the train was carrying dozens of republican lawmakers, their staff and families. according to passengers the train was going about 70 miles per hour when the collision occurred. capital and gop doctors and nurses spring into action. including the three people who were inside the dump truc
it crashed near charlottesville, virginia at 11:20 am. that is 125 miles southwest of washington, d.c. lauren blanchard joins us from the scene, and virginia with more on what happened. >> reporter: we are expecting an update from the ntsb in the next 30 minutes or so. i will get out of the way so you can see what this scene must have been earlier today. that is the other half of the dump truck. the backend of the train that lawmakers were on has been taken out of the area. a ton of...
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but we do know it caused quite a stir in the little town of charlottesville. there was a great deal of talk about it, jefferson's overseer later remembered. people said he freed her because she was his own daughter. from courthouse square where harriet had bordered the stage from washington, you can easily see jefferson's home atop his little mountain. there on the square over there whiskeys or peach brandies, the townspeople had freely discussed among themselves and with snoop ing strangers jefferson's relations with sally hemings and the children who looked so much like him. now, jaws agame, they animatedly sought to explain why jefferson would free harriet hemings. everyone knew, as jefferson himself had once said that, quote, a slave woman who brings a child every two years is more profitable than the best man on the farm. that would certainly explain why jefferson had never done such a thing before or why he never did again. harriet's story might well have ended there had it not been for her younger brother madison who told his family's story to an ohio n
but we do know it caused quite a stir in the little town of charlottesville. there was a great deal of talk about it, jefferson's overseer later remembered. people said he freed her because she was his own daughter. from courthouse square where harriet had bordered the stage from washington, you can easily see jefferson's home atop his little mountain. there on the square over there whiskeys or peach brandies, the townspeople had freely discussed among themselves and with snoop ing strangers...
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so we have just a woman, trump, charlottesville, huckabee, spicer, mcconnell, speaker ryan, -- kellyanne. ban non. remember bannon? and this one is hard to see because of this -- it's comey. the around stuck him in here is because this was just the time that he came out and he got fired and everybody said, oh, he's a hero. but we fail to remember that he is the one that decided to announce that he was reopening the investigation into hillary. that's the around stuck half of him in there. and i have fox news up there. and you know who this is. mcconnell and -- this is just the supreme court nominees. and of course, the three wives. i don't remember their names. >> ivanka -- then, of course, jared, ivanka -- eric is fun. and then of course pence and trump again. sessions. just a reporter. >> thank you. >> okay. >> at this point do you see trump as wrong or evil and if the latter issue is that going to affect your drawing? still draw him as a kind of funny stupid person versus evil person, and i'm won -- >> you think my drawings are funny stupid? really? >> trump is evil. >> i do the republ
so we have just a woman, trump, charlottesville, huckabee, spicer, mcconnell, speaker ryan, -- kellyanne. ban non. remember bannon? and this one is hard to see because of this -- it's comey. the around stuck him in here is because this was just the time that he came out and he got fired and everybody said, oh, he's a hero. but we fail to remember that he is the one that decided to announce that he was reopening the investigation into hillary. that's the around stuck half of him in there. and i...
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okay, so we have just the one and, trump, charlottesville, huckabee, spicer, mcconnell, speaker ryan. kellyanne. remember ben and? and this one is hard to see. it is call me. the reason i stuck him in here is because this was just the kind he came out and got fired and never once said he is a hero. we fail to remember that he's the one who decided to announce that he was reopening the investigation into hillary. that's the reason i stuck half of him and mary. and then i have fox news up there. and you know what this says. but, will and ryan again. supreme court nominee is. i don't remember their names. [inaudible] eric is fun. and then of course guns and trump again. sessions. okay. >> so at this point, do you think -- [inaudible] and as the latter going to -- it feels strong -- [inaudible] >> you think my drawings are funny? really? [inaudible] >> no, i do the republicans as evil. >> has that affected how you draw him? >> no. i think he's an opportunist deep down. i think he's got a lot of fault. he's an opportunist in the worst sense. who say anything to get what he wants. but he's
okay, so we have just the one and, trump, charlottesville, huckabee, spicer, mcconnell, speaker ryan. kellyanne. remember ben and? and this one is hard to see. it is call me. the reason i stuck him in here is because this was just the kind he came out and got fired and never once said he is a hero. we fail to remember that he's the one who decided to announce that he was reopening the investigation into hillary. that's the reason i stuck half of him and mary. and then i have fox news up there....
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later at the virginia festival of the book in charlottesville and the national black writers conference in new york. in april we are headed to texas for the san antonio book festival and will be live once s once again at the "los angeles times" festival of books. [inaudible conversations] good evening and welcome to politics and prose and thank you for coming out on this rather chilly evening. i am th the co-owner along withy wife. on behalf of the entire staff, i would like to thank you for coming. we are delighted to have roxanne dunbar with us who has led a life devoted to social justice activism starting in the 1960s when she belonged to an armed underground group through to her efforts for the women's liberation and over several decades now the advocacy for the rights and recognition. along the way, roxanne taught at california state university and has written or edited a number of books including several on native americans and other indigenous people and a couple of memoirs. earlier this week the foundation awarded the freedom prize lifetime achievement. [applause] roxanne's late
later at the virginia festival of the book in charlottesville and the national black writers conference in new york. in april we are headed to texas for the san antonio book festival and will be live once s once again at the "los angeles times" festival of books. [inaudible conversations] good evening and welcome to politics and prose and thank you for coming out on this rather chilly evening. i am th the co-owner along withy wife. on behalf of the entire staff, i would like to thank...
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with a garbage truck killing one person in that vehicle the incident occurred at the crossing there charlottesville virginia it is not clear exactly what happened the chartered train was taking lawmakers to a republican retreat. and in washington a long running tensions between the f.b.i. and president trump are now out in the open the f.b.i. has condemned the republican push to release a controversy on memo accusing the agency and the justice department of surveillance abuses against the trump campaign democrats say the release of the document is an attempt to discredit the probe into allegations of russian meddling in the election this memo is expected to be released later today. or at least. as donald trump leaves the chamber following his state of the union address on wednesday the muffled exchanges caught on camera. a republican congress man can be heard saying let's release the memo trump replies don't worry one hundred percent can you imagine this president. the memo written by the republican house intelligence committee chairman devin nunez outlines alleged surveillance abuses by investigat
with a garbage truck killing one person in that vehicle the incident occurred at the crossing there charlottesville virginia it is not clear exactly what happened the chartered train was taking lawmakers to a republican retreat. and in washington a long running tensions between the f.b.i. and president trump are now out in the open the f.b.i. has condemned the republican push to release a controversy on memo accusing the agency and the justice department of surveillance abuses against the trump...
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for example, i felt his comments about charlottesville were of that nature and that is why i said what i did. interestingly, i expected us to be further apart on policy but he is not doing the 45% tariff on foreign goods and did not pull out of nafta day one. he has adopted many things i think make a lot of sense for the country and i will support him and work with him on those policies. but where we disagree, i will point that out also. >> should states restrict ak-47s and assault weapons? mr. romney: i will let the states make that decision for what is best with their own state. i think that's the best way to deal with this. >> what about utah? mr. romney: i think each state including our state ought to consider the widest array of options. find out where there is common ground. do what they need to to protect their students. i have grandkids the go to school here in utah. i want to make sure schools are safe. i will not tell people what actions would be the most effective. i have not seen proposed legislation with regard to guns that would have prevented the attacks that have occurr
for example, i felt his comments about charlottesville were of that nature and that is why i said what i did. interestingly, i expected us to be further apart on policy but he is not doing the 45% tariff on foreign goods and did not pull out of nafta day one. he has adopted many things i think make a lot of sense for the country and i will support him and work with him on those policies. but where we disagree, i will point that out also. >> should states restrict ak-47s and assault...
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he started with trying to get kids into the classic tournament held in charlottesville. he started there. but he looks to a much broader stage and said, you know, what is going on in the world of tennis, in the professional sport? was the american tennis association was established in 1899, once that established enough talent, he decided to launch a program here which would be a stepping stone for players to move up into the world tour. the program was really developed as a model taste on what dr. jay has done in the night -- in 1946 to 1950. spent winters in north carolina with dr. hubert eaton and would train in the summers. so, that was very intense training. very intense competition on a daily basis and every weekend, there were tournaments. there was not a week she was here in the summer where she was not playing tournaments and playing with some of the best players that the african-american community had to offer. so, that set the stage for what he developed in 19 31. them to train and practice with the best and brightest kids across the country. wouldould say that
he started with trying to get kids into the classic tournament held in charlottesville. he started there. but he looks to a much broader stage and said, you know, what is going on in the world of tennis, in the professional sport? was the american tennis association was established in 1899, once that established enough talent, he decided to launch a program here which would be a stepping stone for players to move up into the world tour. the program was really developed as a model taste on what...
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we haven't even talked about charlottesville. charlottesville really exposed a lot. when the president had those teleprompters in his face, we were like, we can breathe. but when he talked off the top of his head, the world shook. it was ugly. kkkhad david duke of the during the state of the union when the president said americans are dreamers, too. yet, it was like six or seven times -- i know i was with him when he went to the military base at fort myer and was military. the it was almost like an apology to tryn explanation tour and explain what he was saying, that both sides are good people. a woman died. a white woman died. so race is exposed and its barest sense. this is not archie bunker. this is the president of the united states. and then when you have people going in talking what they feel, particularly when it comes to the issue of immigrants, we have forgotten that we pretty much, the vast majority of us, are not natives of this land. native americans are. and we are telling people who can come in who can go. this immigration issue is about the browning of
we haven't even talked about charlottesville. charlottesville really exposed a lot. when the president had those teleprompters in his face, we were like, we can breathe. but when he talked off the top of his head, the world shook. it was ugly. kkkhad david duke of the during the state of the union when the president said americans are dreamers, too. yet, it was like six or seven times -- i know i was with him when he went to the military base at fort myer and was military. the it was almost...
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or example, i felt his comments about charlottesville were of that nature and that is why i said what i did. the 45% tariff on foreign goods and did not pull out of nafta day one. he has adopted many things i think make a lot of sense for the country and i will support him on those policies. but where we disagree, i will point that out also. should states go that far with weapons? >> i will let the states make that decision for what is best with their own state. each date including our state ought to consider the widest array of options. find out where there is common ground. to protecty need to their students. i have grandkids here in utah. not tell people what actions would be the most effective. i have not seen proposed legislation with regard to guns that would have prevented the attacks that have occurred. passing legislation that might make you feel better but does not do anything is not in our favor. i am not in favor of new federal legislation on the gun front. at let us have states look protective measures, securing building sites, essentially with police patrols or voluntary
or example, i felt his comments about charlottesville were of that nature and that is why i said what i did. the 45% tariff on foreign goods and did not pull out of nafta day one. he has adopted many things i think make a lot of sense for the country and i will support him on those policies. but where we disagree, i will point that out also. should states go that far with weapons? >> i will let the states make that decision for what is best with their own state. each date including our...
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hence the confederate statues in new orleans and charlottesville in the eye of the storm cannot be merely statues are cultural artifacts in the usual sense of the word culture. can better memorials on these terms were never and are never less than what one fervent history professor at the university of north carolina described as a campaign to take the southern culture of the civil war as just and slavery is that benevolent institution and made a very pointed statement about the rule of white supremacy. no, actually the monuments -- actually it was the laws of the jim crow era that did that. no one has yet shown that general lee defended on his monumental force and charlottesville to burn crosses along the blue ridge. what is cultural only becomes literally threatening and what is offensive only becomes literally lethal when it is translated into regulations. by the same token however removals of offensive speakers or offensive public art become more than merely sympathetic and tedium responses to bad taste. they are a practical and aggressive strategy under the cover of appeals to cultur
hence the confederate statues in new orleans and charlottesville in the eye of the storm cannot be merely statues are cultural artifacts in the usual sense of the word culture. can better memorials on these terms were never and are never less than what one fervent history professor at the university of north carolina described as a campaign to take the southern culture of the civil war as just and slavery is that benevolent institution and made a very pointed statement about the rule of white...
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his comments at charlottesville were of a bad nature in that is why i said what i did. interestingly, i expected us to be further apart on policy. he is not doing the 45% terror of, did not pull out of nafta on day one. he is doing things that i think make a lot of sense and i support him. but again, where we disagree, i will point that out, too. i call them like i see them. >> [indiscernible] mr. romney: i'm going to let the states make that decision and decide what is right for their own state. that, i think, is the best way to deal with this. >> what about utah? state,ney: each including our state, ought to consider the widest arrange -- widest range of options. protect their students. i've got grandkids but go to school in utah. i want to make sure our schools are safe. i'm not going to tell people what actions would be the most effective. i have not seen proposed legislation with regard to guns that would have prevented the attacks that have occurred. just passing legislation that might make you feel little better but does not do something is not something i favor,
his comments at charlottesville were of a bad nature in that is why i said what i did. interestingly, i expected us to be further apart on policy. he is not doing the 45% terror of, did not pull out of nafta on day one. he is doing things that i think make a lot of sense and i support him. but again, where we disagree, i will point that out, too. i call them like i see them. >> [indiscernible] mr. romney: i'm going to let the states make that decision and decide what is right for their...
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charlottesville tweeted that city staff removed the shrouds this morning. the circuit court judge
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later at the virginia festival of the book in charlottesville and the national black writers conference in new york. in april we are headed to texas for the san antonio book festival and will be live once s once again at the "los angeles times" festival of books. [inaudible conversations] good evening and welcome to politics and prose and thank you for coming out on this rather chilly evening. i am th the co-owner along withy
later at the virginia festival of the book in charlottesville and the national black writers conference in new york. in april we are headed to texas for the san antonio book festival and will be live once s once again at the "los angeles times" festival of books. [inaudible conversations] good evening and welcome to politics and prose and thank you for coming out on this rather chilly evening. i am th the co-owner along withy
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no one has yet shown that general lee descended from his monumental horse in charlottesville to burn crosses along the blue ridge at night. what is cultural only becomes literally threatening and what is offensive only becomes literally lethal when it is translated into regulations. by the same token, however, removals of offensive speakers or offensive public art become more than merely sympathetic and pitying responses to bad taste. they are a practical and aggressive strategy under the cover of appeals to cultural offense, for suppressing political disagreement. and since the goal of the dissent is the destabilization of a political order, it should come as no surprise that the cultural rage of the confederate monument activists often shades over into furious condemnations of the entirety of american history. it is not merely confederate generals who have become targets. christchurch in alexandria, virginia, decided last month to remove the plaque marking the pew once occupied by george washington because it might make some visitors feel unsafe or unwelcome. student activists at t
no one has yet shown that general lee descended from his monumental horse in charlottesville to burn crosses along the blue ridge at night. what is cultural only becomes literally threatening and what is offensive only becomes literally lethal when it is translated into regulations. by the same token, however, removals of offensive speakers or offensive public art become more than merely sympathetic and pitying responses to bad taste. they are a practical and aggressive strategy under the cover...
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americans the confederate statues and charlottesville have been at the eye of this storm can not be merely statues or merely cultural artifacts in the usual sense of the word culture. confederate memorials on these terms and were never and are never less than what one fervent history professor at the university of north carolina described as, a campaign to paint the southern cause in the civil war as just and slavery as a benevolent institution, and made a very pointed state about the rule of white supremacy. no, actually, the monuments didn't do that. actually, it was the laws of the jim crow era that did that. no one has yet shown that general lee descended from his monumental horse in shore lotsville to burn crosses alongs the blue ridge at night. what is cultural only becomes literally threatening and what offense, what is offensive only becomes literally lethal when it is translated into regulations. by the same token however, removals of offensive speakers or offensive public art become more than merely sympathetic and pitying responses to bad taste. they are a practical and aggressi
americans the confederate statues and charlottesville have been at the eye of this storm can not be merely statues or merely cultural artifacts in the usual sense of the word culture. confederate memorials on these terms and were never and are never less than what one fervent history professor at the university of north carolina described as, a campaign to paint the southern cause in the civil war as just and slavery as a benevolent institution, and made a very pointed state about the rule of...
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later in the march it's the virginia festival of book in charlottesville and national black writers conference in brook run, new york. in april -- brooklyn, new york. in april we're headed to texas for the san antonio book festival, and we'll be live once again at the los angeles times festival of books. for more information about upcoming book fairses and festivals and to watch previous festival coverage, click the book fairs tab on our web site, booktv.org. ..
later in the march it's the virginia festival of book in charlottesville and national black writers conference in brook run, new york. in april -- brooklyn, new york. in april we're headed to texas for the san antonio book festival, and we'll be live once again at the los angeles times festival of books. for more information about upcoming book fairses and festivals and to watch previous festival coverage, click the book fairs tab on our web site, booktv.org. ..
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later in march it's the virginia festival of the book in charlottesville and the national black writers conference in brooklyn, new york. in april we're headed to texas for the san antonio book festival, and we'll be live once again at the los angeles times festival of books. for more information about up coming book -- upcoming book fairs and test values, click -- festivals, click the book fairs tabben our web site, booktv.org. >> let's dive in a little bit more. who is eric garnersome. >> eric garner -- >> excuse me, who was eric garner. >> yeah. the reason i wrote this book, let my back up for a moment, is because on the day that the grand jury decided not to indict the police officer responsible for or his killing -- and i'll use a different word, but i can't legally -- but i went over to staten island, and i started talking to people in the street asking, you know, what was he like. and i immediately found that everybody had a story about this guy, and he was, he was just interesting and funny and complicated and flawed, and i thought he, he was a person whose story would be really
later in march it's the virginia festival of the book in charlottesville and the national black writers conference in brooklyn, new york. in april we're headed to texas for the san antonio book festival, and we'll be live once again at the los angeles times festival of books. for more information about up coming book -- upcoming book fairs and test values, click -- festivals, click the book fairs tabben our web site, booktv.org. >> let's dive in a little bit more. who is eric garnersome....
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we have not talked about charlottesville, charlottesville really exposed a lot. when the president had those teleprompters in his face, we were like, we can breathe. when he talked off of the top of his head, the world shook. it was ugly. you know, you had david duke, former grand dragon of the kkk saying, look now on twitter. david duke chimed in again during the state of the union when said americans are dreamers too. yet, going back to charlottesville, six or seven times, correct, i know i was with him when he went to the military base at fort mcmyer and talking to the military, the president, because he was trying to get it right, he kept -- it was almost like an apology, an explanation tour, trying to explain what he was saying because both sides are good people. >> a girl died. >> a woman died. a white woom -- woman died. so race is exposed in sense. this is the president of the united states and then when you have people going on talking what they feel, well, particularly when it comes to the issue of immigrants, we have forgotten that we pretty much, the
we have not talked about charlottesville, charlottesville really exposed a lot. when the president had those teleprompters in his face, we were like, we can breathe. when he talked off of the top of his head, the world shook. it was ugly. you know, you had david duke, former grand dragon of the kkk saying, look now on twitter. david duke chimed in again during the state of the union when said americans are dreamers too. yet, going back to charlottesville, six or seven times, correct, i know i...
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. >> host: you write in the book about the response to the demonstrations and violence in charlottesville virginia. and they're clearly appear to be forces still emboldened and both take comfort in the rise. it isn't a huge focus on the book but more broadly what do you see as the role of the trump presidency and beyond it and do you think that he has something he can't quite control or understand? >> guest: i think that is a great way to put it. when you have radical movements, is it something that is so marginal you don't have to deal with it. these are people that do violent things and then cracking down there won't be more than 40 of them. the rest of them, move them from society. society will be safe. but sometimes you get radical groups that are expressing something real and broadly shared. the black panthers. they were in radicalized forms and america was not content with the achievements an and this isa wonderful way to a lot of anger. we can vote. at that point, with a wide conservatism does is to say we have to identify the personalities and isolate and identify the grievances t
. >> host: you write in the book about the response to the demonstrations and violence in charlottesville virginia. and they're clearly appear to be forces still emboldened and both take comfort in the rise. it isn't a huge focus on the book but more broadly what do you see as the role of the trump presidency and beyond it and do you think that he has something he can't quite control or understand? >> guest: i think that is a great way to put it. when you have radical movements, is...
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collided with a garbage truck killing one person in the vehicle this incident occurred at a crossing near charlottesville in the u.s. state of virginia it's not clear how it happened chartered train was taking lawmakers to a republican retreat. poland senate has passed a controversial bill making it illegal to choose the country of complicity of crimes committed by the nazis during world war two israel has condemned the bill saying poland is attempting to rewrite history the u.s. says the legislation could hamper open discussion about the holocaust. bolivia is reeling from severe flooding caused by record rainfall the floodwaters swept away homes and damaged bridges some residents had to wade through deep water to bring their animals to safety authorities say someone has a twenty thousand people have been affected. this is the still to come on the show angelina jolie rallies to protect roe hinge refugees from sexual violence we'll tell you the new strategy she's pushing to better shield women from rape and wars of choice. all in iraq mosul was a symbolic city in the fight against so-called islamic state
collided with a garbage truck killing one person in the vehicle this incident occurred at a crossing near charlottesville in the u.s. state of virginia it's not clear how it happened chartered train was taking lawmakers to a republican retreat. poland senate has passed a controversial bill making it illegal to choose the country of complicity of crimes committed by the nazis during world war two israel has condemned the bill saying poland is attempting to rewrite history the u.s. says the...
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the people of charlottesville have decided they won't allow the darkness here. that they will fight back if how are things now. >> we're still recovering as a community and all had conversation, how can we use our platform to say it's not reflective of charlottesville but more importantly charlottesville is an exam of what is happening in the world and the nation. >> reporter: carla is now living the dream at one time that seemed unimaginable. a young black girl will watch this piece and for that moment she'll go, oh, i can be an athlet athletic director. coach something fine, being a broadcaster is fine, those things have been done. this has never been done. >> i get chill, you know, just thinking about it. i'm living proof that you can do anything if you work hard. if you fight for your education, you fight for the opportunity to be a part of something bigger than you. and you dream it. >> this is your dream. >> oh, yeah. yes. absolutely. >> cannot stress, cannot stress what a big deal it is to be an athletic director but saw the university president at the ba
the people of charlottesville have decided they won't allow the darkness here. that they will fight back if how are things now. >> we're still recovering as a community and all had conversation, how can we use our platform to say it's not reflective of charlottesville but more importantly charlottesville is an exam of what is happening in the world and the nation. >> reporter: carla is now living the dream at one time that seemed unimaginable. a young black girl will watch this...
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collided with a garbage truck killing one person in that vehicle the incident occurred at a crossing there charlottesville in the state of virginia it is not clear exactly what happened but charter train was taking lawmakers to a republican retreat. polling senate has passed the controversy of bill making it illegal to accuse the country of complicity in crimes committed by the nazis during world war two israel has condemned the bill saying poland is attempting to rewrite history the u.s. says the legislation could hamper open discussion about the holocaust. motorists in rio de janeiro had to take cover when a gunfight between gang members and police build onto a major highway the battle began when police raided one of the city's most notorious slums brazil's been hit by an increase in crime linked to the drug trade in the worst recession in decades. so to christophe down a look at facebook's most recent jump in profits brian facebook says it's concentrating on quality rather than quantity that as the world's biggest social media network announced its fourth quarter profits were up twenty percent to almos
collided with a garbage truck killing one person in that vehicle the incident occurred at a crossing there charlottesville in the state of virginia it is not clear exactly what happened but charter train was taking lawmakers to a republican retreat. polling senate has passed the controversy of bill making it illegal to accuse the country of complicity in crimes committed by the nazis during world war two israel has condemned the bill saying poland is attempting to rewrite history the u.s. says...
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wednesday, the charter amtrak train sliced through a truck on the tracks south of charlottesville, virginia. while injuries were minor, immediately members of congress who were doctors helped victims in the truck. >> cpr for minutes, i don't know how long, maybe five, ten minutes, and within moments, ems showed up. >> reporter: that victim died at the scene, and another victim aboard the truck in critical condition. >> everybody knew what they should be doing and took a role in saving a life. >> reporter: the railroad crossing signals were working and the crossing gates were down. unfortunately, train-vehicle collisions happen almost every week in the u.s., and in 2016, 260 killed, 842 injured, and at 55 miles per hour, it can take an amtrak train a half mile or more to stop. former railroad ad min straiter, sarah fine berg. >> if you are stuck here as gates come down, breakthrough the gates or get out of the car and run. >> the gate will break away. >> reporter: more questions than answers how this truck ended up in the path of a train. >>> coming up, we are tracking a warm weekend. it's n
wednesday, the charter amtrak train sliced through a truck on the tracks south of charlottesville, virginia. while injuries were minor, immediately members of congress who were doctors helped victims in the truck. >> cpr for minutes, i don't know how long, maybe five, ten minutes, and within moments, ems showed up. >> reporter: that victim died at the scene, and another victim aboard the truck in critical condition. >> everybody knew what they should be doing and took a role...
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all the major events of his presidency, the charlottesville tragedy -- he is just convinced he is not getting a fair shake. he meets privately with nbc's chuck todd because there is a way in which she -- in which she works them. host: is a donald trump is staking his presidency on nothing less than destroying the credibility of the media. the media are determined to do the same thing to him. -- it turns is now out to be good box office for major news organizations. organizations are appealing to an anti-trump audience. there is a whole section of the country who voted for this president. to them, not only do they think that their guy is being treated unfairly, but they believe the elite media look down on them. they view them condescendingly. there was one headline and the huffington post, a vote for trump was a hate crime. that kind of condescending attitude does undercut the credibility of the media. guest.oward kurtz, our he is the host on the fox news channel and the author of media madness. if you want to ask them (202)ons, you can call 748-8001 for republicans. (202) 748-8000 fo
all the major events of his presidency, the charlottesville tragedy -- he is just convinced he is not getting a fair shake. he meets privately with nbc's chuck todd because there is a way in which she -- in which she works them. host: is a donald trump is staking his presidency on nothing less than destroying the credibility of the media. the media are determined to do the same thing to him. -- it turns is now out to be good box office for major news organizations. organizations are appealing...
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negative ever said about that is not true, or when the president says there were good people marching in charlottesville, that is not him waging an effective war against p.c. it is nonsense. it is immoral. whoit actually helps those pushwhen we do not tell the truth, p.c.. it allows the pc promulgated to pretend they are the ones who are truth tellers, and they are not. pc is about lies. we can never let the pc left masquerade as a truth tellers, which means we must always tell the truth. every time we lie, we let them off the hook. we cannot fight the lies with more lies. we cannot fight political correctness by claiming victimhood. when they lie, let's call about. let's not say stupid things just for the sake of melting nowflakes. you do not need hotcakes to melt snowflakes. a little bit of truth doesn't -- does it every time. our job is just about facts, which is easy. make sure they are true. there's nothing wrong with poking fun at the left. make sure what you say can be backed up with evidence. we do not need to offend them. they are nearly offended by everything anyway, up to and including you br
negative ever said about that is not true, or when the president says there were good people marching in charlottesville, that is not him waging an effective war against p.c. it is nonsense. it is immoral. whoit actually helps those pushwhen we do not tell the truth, p.c.. it allows the pc promulgated to pretend they are the ones who are truth tellers, and they are not. pc is about lies. we can never let the pc left masquerade as a truth tellers, which means we must always tell the truth. every...
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same with charlottesville. there's good people on both sides. that's after he read a statement and they had to clean it up again. for kellyanne conway or anyone else to say the president feels domestic abuse is unacceptable, you know what, b.s. if he was that upset as his spokespeople are, then he would have said so when he had the opportunity on friday and he would have tweeted it on out to reinforce it on saturday. and that's not what he did. that's because if he were to show sympathy or compassion or acknowledge he female victims he would have to acknowledge his own transgressions in this area. and he absolutely will not do that because, again, that is not in his character to ever knit fault. but, b, he is taught to double down. he probably thinks he's innocent, very paranoid. those were just false allegations against him. how come these other accusers are to be believed but his aren't to be believed. that is at the crux of this, unfortunately. this is who the american people decided to vote for. we knew who donald trump was for a long time.
same with charlottesville. there's good people on both sides. that's after he read a statement and they had to clean it up again. for kellyanne conway or anyone else to say the president feels domestic abuse is unacceptable, you know what, b.s. if he was that upset as his spokespeople are, then he would have said so when he had the opportunity on friday and he would have tweeted it on out to reinforce it on saturday. and that's not what he did. that's because if he were to show sympathy or...
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el incidente ocurriÓ esta maÑana cerca de charlottesville en virginia. claudia uceda nos amplÍa la informaciÓn. claudia: muchos dijeron que fue un milagro. el pasajero del camiÓn murió y varios quedaron heridos. >> estaba hablando con el senador de colorado y sentimos como un impacto muy fuerte acompaÑado por un sonido. en esos primeros minutos sin nadiesabÍa quÉ es lo que habÍa sucedido. habÍan colegas que se habÍan caído. claudia: en el tren iba paul ryan y les legisladores hispanos. algunos con esposas e hijos. todos iban a un retirocongresional de tres dÍas en virginia occidental. una tradiciÓn anual para hablar de las prioridades legislativas. el congresista curbelo dice que al momento del impacto se pensÓ lo peor. >> algunos pensaron que posiblemente el tren habÍa sido blanco de algÚn tipo de ataque. es algo que es natural que le pase por la mente a uno cuando estÁ en un tren sino de oficiales del gobierno. mÁs de dos cientos congresistas y senadores. claud el senador -- claudia: el senador flake se sanÓ por segunda vez. entre lo
el incidente ocurriÓ esta maÑana cerca de charlottesville en virginia. claudia uceda nos amplÍa la informaciÓn. claudia: muchos dijeron que fue un milagro. el pasajero del camiÓn murió y varios quedaron heridos. >> estaba hablando con el senador de colorado y sentimos como un impacto muy fuerte acompaÑado por un sonido. en esos primeros minutos sin nadiesabÍa quÉ es lo que habÍa sucedido. habÍan colegas que se habÍan caído. claudia: en el tren iba paul ryan y les legisladores...
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i kept quiet for the longest time until charlottesville then i couldn't because here is the deal our democratic institutions are not guaranteed. read your history. we have to send a clear signal to the world that this nation is still a beacon of decency and hope we leave the world not by the example of our power but the power of example. that is why the rest of the world watches us. the power of our example. [applause] no no no. look. this is family. within our values at home create a sense of optimism. over private dinners in private hours we were in a tibetan plateau in a town of 22 million who turned to me to say can you define america for me? yes. i mean this. one word. possibilities. unlike any other nation in the world america is about possibilities. anything is possible. with all of these incredible institutions we can achieve anything. so we have the strongest mission the strongest and clearest voice in america and in this nation that every single solitary man and woman to be treated with dignity. the democratic party has to be the strongest and clearest voice in the nation t
i kept quiet for the longest time until charlottesville then i couldn't because here is the deal our democratic institutions are not guaranteed. read your history. we have to send a clear signal to the world that this nation is still a beacon of decency and hope we leave the world not by the example of our power but the power of example. that is why the rest of the world watches us. the power of our example. [applause] no no no. look. this is family. within our values at home create a sense of...
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i -- i have to come in after charlottesville, i was on vacation, right? hugely controversial. so i go on to cnn and fox news to lay down how i view those topics, right? it was kkk, anti-semitism, racism, fascism, et cetera. i laid out my first principles on major news shows, and i think the white house has to do more than that. i said the president needs to work on the presbyterian thing. that's my background and his background. things should be aired out on that ethical plain. if you want to talk about fascism, what's fascism? a big total state. my party's for a small state. so you have a debate on the issues, right? then i hear hisses coming from the audience here when you make fundamental eighth grade claims. you have to have a rational debate without people hissing and making noise and rebut human reason. i don't like the drama, the statements, a bunch of the tweets are rough, right? i don't do that, right? but people need to distinguish between this person, that comment, this person, that comment, and it's tough. we're all working on that, but you can only do what you can
i -- i have to come in after charlottesville, i was on vacation, right? hugely controversial. so i go on to cnn and fox news to lay down how i view those topics, right? it was kkk, anti-semitism, racism, fascism, et cetera. i laid out my first principles on major news shows, and i think the white house has to do more than that. i said the president needs to work on the presbyterian thing. that's my background and his background. things should be aired out on that ethical plain. if you want to...
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more recently in charlottesville you have this young man, deandre harris who was beaten almost to death and -- it turns out that the location she was beaten in a parking -- great with a white mob and kids and just recently -- it was the parking garage of the charlottesville police department where he was beaten and i feel like that's -- no. yeah. so caught it on video and just thinking about what you're saying it's like it happened in the garage of the police department. >> right so i think sort of thinking about both of those right the kind of wholesale surveillance in targeting and that developing of informants wanting endless information apparently agents would have to like basically explain why they didn't have a -- informant working for them even if they're working all white plates and i think to me that really resonates because -- because i think we're seeing these parallels with the ways that most students and muslim group and organizations have being surveilled today. and -- i think we don't take the right lessons so i think -- so one of the things that just -- have drone me ove
more recently in charlottesville you have this young man, deandre harris who was beaten almost to death and -- it turns out that the location she was beaten in a parking -- great with a white mob and kids and just recently -- it was the parking garage of the charlottesville police department where he was beaten and i feel like that's -- no. yeah. so caught it on video and just thinking about what you're saying it's like it happened in the garage of the police department. >> right so i...
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he also thought about the kkk protesting in charlottesville not long ago. he fought for the right for them to do that, too. they have the rights and freedoms. he didn't view it as disrespectful. at the end of the day, when he's not in his uniform, he is a black man in america and he understands a lot of issue that is colin kaepernick in the league and guys in the league are fighting for. it's real life. i'm glad that it's brought to the forefront. and honestly, our president has helped lead that charge with some of the decisions he made, specifically with the way he handled the charlottesville situation, in my home state. >> you think that it will -- in some odd way help people because we will learn more about it and discuss it more and something may be done despite the way he characterizes it? >> yeah, i think it's all about just dialogue. you know, i'm not saying i'm perfect or i have all the answers. but i'm willing to have an open mind. >> um-hum. >> i understand what it's like to come from the bottom, to -- i know what it's like to be discriminated aga
he also thought about the kkk protesting in charlottesville not long ago. he fought for the right for them to do that, too. they have the rights and freedoms. he didn't view it as disrespectful. at the end of the day, when he's not in his uniform, he is a black man in america and he understands a lot of issue that is colin kaepernick in the league and guys in the league are fighting for. it's real life. i'm glad that it's brought to the forefront. and honestly, our president has helped lead...
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this of course dovetails with all the major events of his presidency, the charlottesville tragedy, the russian investigation which is back in the news. he is just convincing tonv gettg a fair shake but he also meets privately with people like nbc's chuck todd andnd others because there's a a way in which he wos them over. >> host: you right in the bookkeeping donald trump is taking his presidency as did on nothing less than destroying the credibility of the news media and the meteor determined to do the same to you. you go on expand on that a light of what you just said. >> guest: there is no it turns out to be good box offers for major news organizations come you turn on at night, there are these panels against trump courts are largely paid to enter trump audience. it may be good business but the problem is there's a whole part of the country who voted for donald trump. many still enthusiastically support this president. and to them not that or do they think their guy is being treated unfairly but they believe with some justification as i write in "media madness" the elite media in wa
this of course dovetails with all the major events of his presidency, the charlottesville tragedy, the russian investigation which is back in the news. he is just convincing tonv gettg a fair shake but he also meets privately with people like nbc's chuck todd andnd others because there's a a way in which he wos them over. >> host: you right in the bookkeeping donald trump is taking his presidency as did on nothing less than destroying the credibility of the news media and the meteor...
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. >>> two confederate statues in charlottesville, virginia, are about to be uncovered once again. shrouds were placed over them back in august after the deadly unite the right rally. that the public should be allowed to see the sculptures and officials say they are unhappy the decision and plan to honor it. >> three astronauts are back on earth. after they spent the day in space. because one russian strepped down in katz ic stan. they are conducting speexperime on board the lap since september. >>> the votes are in last night was the deadline for the motion picture academy to pick their votes for the winners. this year the academy has added new and more diverse members after the show was criticized for its lack of diversity and some say it's far from enough. we'll look at the progress coming up at 12:30 and don't forget to watch the oscars live with jimmy kimmel here on 6 abc. the show begins at 8:00 sunday night. >>> a new warning for online shoppers. federal officials uncovered fake products sold on five major retail sites including amazon, wal-mart and ebay. and they include ur
. >>> two confederate statues in charlottesville, virginia, are about to be uncovered once again. shrouds were placed over them back in august after the deadly unite the right rally. that the public should be allowed to see the sculptures and officials say they are unhappy the decision and plan to honor it. >> three astronauts are back on earth. after they spent the day in space. because one russian strepped down in katz ic stan. they are conducting speexperime on board the lap...
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scott: after the charlottesville incident, the president and i were on two very different pages. he invited me to the white house to perhaps talk through some of the challenges i had with his comments that i found indefensible and disgusting. i went to the white house. yeah? listen, i think he was very interested to hear, to listen, which i thought was wonderful. as i have said several times since then, he is 70 something years old. i have never seen somebody change their mind in a single conversation. i am not trying to change her destination, just your direction, at times. one of the things he asked me is "how can i be helpful from a legislative standpoint?" my legislation, investing in opportunity act, is the way that you can help to stress the community. live a better life, see more opportunities. basically, with the investing and opportunity act, what it does is it differs or capital gains tax for seven years. you have to pay it, but we defer it, so you can make a long-term investment in a distressed community, where 50 million americans live. a prettyt that was good idea, a
scott: after the charlottesville incident, the president and i were on two very different pages. he invited me to the white house to perhaps talk through some of the challenges i had with his comments that i found indefensible and disgusting. i went to the white house. yeah? listen, i think he was very interested to hear, to listen, which i thought was wonderful. as i have said several times since then, he is 70 something years old. i have never seen somebody change their mind in a single...