mcdougal. we asked for a statement but still haven't gotten it, and quite understandably, no statement from the first lady, who hosted what was billed as a woman of courage event at the white house. >> let us think for a moment about what courage truly is. courage is the quality most needed in this world. yet it is often the hardest to find. courage sets apart those who believe in higher calling and those who act on it. it takes courage not only to see wrong but strive to right it. >> the first lady did tweet out a photo yesterday. she and the president with a snowy lawn in the background. it should be noted, she doesn't send out a lot of tweets of pictures with her husband. she sent it about ten hours before the mcdougal interview hit. also, yesterday, the official white house schedule hit, saying the couple would depart the white house together. however they did not. however in florida, it was family all the way down the stairs, the president, the first lady, and their son. as for the departu

>> exclusive cnn interview with former playboy model karen mcdougal. she said her affair with the president lasted a year and he offered to pay her for ait. >>> and a government shutdown? >>> and a trade war has commenced. china saying it will respond to the trump tariffs. the news sent the dow and markets plummeting on the news. >>> what advice would you give to the 25-year-old donald trump knowing what you know today? >> don't run for president. >> and that millennial for him. i'm christine romans. >> i'm dave briggs. it is friday, march 23rd. we got four stories, christie, and we have not mentioned the exchange of threats with the former vice president and president trump. that was yesterday. it is a wild friday. a move that was predictable. national security adviser h.r. mcmaster is out and john bolton is in. he is the new national security adviser effective april 9th. the president announced a major personnel change on twitter. it comes a week after he denied stories about the pending staff shakeups. >> there will always be change, but it was a fa

but karen mcdougal says it was under false pretenses. whether that's true or not, it seems like her attorney at the time may have misled her, her attorney who was negotiating this contract for her. it seems he may have led her into believing, number one, that the "national enquirer" was going to leak this story. >> she seemed relieved that she was going to get paid, the story wouldn't come out and she would get this new career. that has nothing to do with donald trump. by the way, they do catch and kill all the time for people running for president. this isn't something just for donald trump. >> it does potentially implicate him on a different potential level which is on federal campaign finance laws. discovery is going to have to reveal where this money came from, how this came about, but the problem is that corporations are not allowed to give a contribution to a federal candidate. now, if the overarching company for "national enquirer" actual dl make this payoff and it can be deemed a contribution, there is a problem. >> let me bring

unbeknownst to mcdougal as well. we heard from a spokesperson saying he would like to talk because of attorney privilege. and we should mention stormy daniels has said publicly now on her twitter feed she was lied to, lied about and that she was bullied, and she was talking about president trump. wolf? >> all right, sarah, thank you. sarah snyder reporting. joining us now stormy daniels' attorney, michael avenatti. >> thanks for having me. >> you put up this tweet, a picture is worth a thousand words. how many words is this worth, question mark, hashtag 60 minutes, hashtag please deny it. tell our viewers what you're saying? >> that tweet is a warning shot. i want to be really clear about this. it's a warning shot to michael cohen and anyone else associated with president trump that they better be very, very careful after sunday night relating to what they say about my client and what spin or lies they attempt to tell the american people. but make no mistake about it, it is a warning shot. >> could we assume that tha

that was a key concern for karen mcdougal herself. she said on the record in that story that i wrote, i want to warn other women about this practice. and about a set of contracts that she ultimately found onerous and exploitative. now she's talked to you. she has filed a complaint legally where she wants to sue ami, and she's going on the offensive on the basis of that argument. if you look at that complaint, anderson, there is a very clear articulation of a public policy argument, saying this is something that suppressed the marketplace of free ideas, that distorted an election, possibly. >> but, you know, karen mcdougal says in the deal with ami, she was aware they were not going to run her story. and in fact, she says she was glad that they were going to bury it. obviously, she was also glad to get money for that and what she said she was promised about kind of a new potential career as a writer. you know, as sort of an expert on aging and health. i guess that's the other side of this. that some people who want to keep a damaging s

>> exclusive cnn interview with former playboy model karen mcdougal. she said her affair with the president lasted a year and he offered to pay her for it. >>> and breaking. senate votes to fund the government through september. one senator wanted to stop it all in the name of a nature preserve. >>> and a trade war has commenced. china saying it will respond to the trump tariffs. the news sent the dow and markets plummeting on the news. >>> what advice would you give to the 25-year-old donald trump knowing what you know today? >> don't run for president. >> he loves being president. >> i think so. >>> welcome to "early start." i'm christine romans. >> i'm dave briggs. it is 5:00 a.m. in the east. the president said he would run it like a business, but it is more like mcdonald's. he has a 48% turnover rate. that is unprecedented in modern political times. a move as predictable as it was haphazardly rolled out. h.r. mcmaster is out and john bolton is in. with the second time in as many weeks, the president announced a major personnel change on twitter. i

karen mcdougal got $150,000. do you have any idea how much more money, how much more money was paid to other women, potentially? >> you know, i'm not going to talk about anything other than what we've reported. we have seen those documents and all of the billing between karen mcdougal and her representatives and the company and i'll leave it at that. she did get that $150,000. although i would note, a whole lot of that was skimmed off the top by multiple parties who were involved in this transaction. you know, look, a lot of these women, including stormy daniels and karen mcdougal are quick to say, "we're not victims," but i think that also, they have not profited as richly as many would assume. >> and keep in mind, the money -- the complexity of this scheme. the money for karen mcdougal came from american media, came from the national enquirer parent company. the money from stormy daniels came, at least according to michael cohen, from michael cohen, personally. so this was an elaborate system to protect donald

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under $50,000 that karen mcdougal got. what has been mcdougal's legal strategy? >> i think she was very cautious in the interview in terms of information she was willing to share. she certainly answer ad fair amount of questions with the president. but there was a lot that she's danced around in part because she may not be able to tell that side of her story. i think it is note panel she signed away the rights to a company that tones "national enquirer." the chairmanf. company is a close friend of trump. if you are connecting the dots, this apparent campaign. if not by the president, at least by some of his allies to silence some of these women and bar them from speaking out publicly. whether or not that will change, that depends on if the lawsuits are allowed to move forward. and they'll see if the president is required at any time to cover prostituti prostitution. >> i'm listening to this and wondering how anyone is getting any work done. i didn't sleep for four years and we didn't have these scandals because there was so much work to get done. >> when you wor

mcdougal? >> plu watch "60 minutes" on sunday, mr. president? >> it's funny, he called that thing, that dog and pony show a news conference, but hasn't taken questions, in fact it's been 400 days in which he did. distractions from the real questions. and out live in west palm beach where the president and first lady will be landing momentarily. boris rs the white house, look, they don't want to talk. he made it clear, he doesn't want to answer those questions. >> reporter: hey there, erin, plenty of questions for this administration, but few answers. you can call it crisis of messaging as president is about to arrive shortly. he tweeted out about the omnibus spending bill he would never vote for another bill like this again. calling for congress to give him a line item veto something previously found to be unconstitutional. again, the president threatened to veto this bill later today, almost simultaneously you had a number of white house officials under cutting the president. you had the director of legislative affairs mark short saying he didn

president, is stormy daniels and karen mcdougal lying about the affairs? >> just camera clicks, huh? the president didn't answer that. maybe he didn't hear. then i guess he also didn't hear cnn's jeff zeleny asking the president as he was headed to marine one, on his way to mar-a-lago. here it is. >> will you watch "60 minutes" on sunday, mr. president? >> stormy daniels' attorney, who tweeted out a picture of a dvd late last night with the caption, if a picture is worth a thousand words, how many words is this worth? he told wolf blitzer this today. >> the tweet is a warning shot. i want to be really clear about this. it is a warning shot. >> so much more on that in just a few minutes. we have a whole lot to cover on a friday night. i want to bring in mark preston, matthew rosenberg and kirsten powers, and former congressman david jolly. happy friday to everyone. thank you so much for joining us. >> good to be with you. >> let's talk about this, mark, seriously. usually we see this, right? >> big sweeping signatures, too. >> why didn't we see that today?

donald trump is not just afraid of karen mcdougal. he is terrified into silence by her. karen mcdougal is a former playboy model who allegedly had an ongoing romantic sexual affair with donald trump at the same time that donald trump was allegedly sexually involved with the porn star stormy daniels. and i'm not sure how the word allegedly got into the teleprompter there. but last night karen mcdougal said that donald trump said, i love you, to her many, many times. donald trump was saying i love you to karen mcdougal just months after his third and current wife gave birth to his fifth child. and karen mcdougal says he often mentioned his first daughter, who was born to his first wife. >> did he ever compare you to any of his kids? >> you know, he -- he's very proud of ivanka. as he should be. i mean, she's a brilliant woman, she's beautiful. that's his daughter and he should be proud of her. he said i was beautiful like her. and, you know, you're a smart girl. there wasn't a lot of comparing, but there was some. i heard a lot about her, yeah. >> in a report in the wall s

president, is karen mcdougal telling the truth? >> any comment on mrs. mcdougal. >> will you watch "60 minutes" on sunday? will you watch "60 minutes" mr. president? >> well, the president also

karen mcdougal makes for an incredible witness, and so does stormy daniels for that matter. i don't think any of that touches the president. at the end of the day i think he is impervious to this. the decisions he has made, the fact that these are just for the moment breaking news stories is but in the mix with lots of other breaking news stories, they end up getting lost in the breaking news stories. they keep our attention for a moment but don't ultimately hurt the president, certainly not with his base. >> i want to turn to the drama unfolding around the spending bill yesterday. let's watch a clip from the president's remarks. >> there are a lot of things that i'm unhappy about in this bill. there are a lot of things that we shouldn't have had in this bill but we were in a sense forced, if we want to build our military. but i say to congress i will never sign another bill like this again. i'm not going to do it again. >> should congress take that threat seriously, rick? >> probably not. though he did cause quite a stir. they were all leaving on easter break. he said he's

can mcdougal and daniels end up testifying in each other's cases? >> in any civil litigation, if it's relevant and consistent with the rules, sure, they can be subpoenaed to testify in these other cases, as can the president of the united states, in addition to the ruling that we just saw, we have clinton versus jones, in which the president of the united states under a democratic president held that no one is above the law, and in a civil litigation, he can be deposed, it's not going to interfere with his presidential duties. but i don't think these lawsuits are really going to end up meaning a whole lot legally, even an arbitrator has to apply state law, and state law requires reasonable damages, but the bigger issue has to do with what the american public knew when they were voting for this president, and we don't have back groground checks for elect individuals, and if we don't know what's being hidden, we can't know what can be used against an elected official, we don't have the nchsz we need to cast a vote. so i do think this has bigger implic

mcdougal had been silenced. randi kaye, cnn, new york. >> michael cohen has a standing invitation to come on the so far he has yet to accept. joining us, his attorney in another legal matter and friend david schwartz, and michael avenatti who represents stormy daniels and released this picture of his client taking a polygraph test in 2011. according to the report he released from that polygraph test, stormy daniels was and i'm quoting "truthful about having unprotected vaginal intercourse with donald trump in july of 2006," i guess a quote from the polygrapher. want to remind that polygraphs are generally not admissible in court. why release this information about the polygraph because as i said, it's not admissible in court. does it help your legal case? >> i don't know that it helps our legal case, but we want the public to have as many facts as possible at their disposal. our position has been consistent for weeks now. we want the public to know the facts, to know my client's story. to the extent that mr. coh

peter strauss is karen mcdougal's current lawyer. i'm assuming you're ready to answer all the questions. >> i'm ready. >> first of all, peter, what did she think she was signing and why did she sign it? >> american media ink not only owned "national enquirer" but six fitness magazines. she thought she was signing a legitimate writing and modeling contract. to be clear she knew they were buying her story and she knew that the "national even requirer" was not going to publish it. but she had no idea she wasn't going to be able to respond to press inquiries. ami takes the position she can and we're thrilled, but the reality is their private position is very different and for over a year, they've made her terrified. >> how so? >> so after "the new yorker" ronan farrow story came out, any disclosures will lead to breach of contract and will lead to significant monetary damages. we all know what that means. you get sued for $20 million. >> if they're saying she can talk now, doesn't that mean everything is taken care of. >> this week in th

mcdougal stands by her story. more now of hthe exclusive interview. >> did you think about rekinds ling the relationship? >> not while he was married. at that point in time i would never do that again. no. >> you didn't speak -- you told friends as anybody would tell friends about a relationship but you didn't at any point during this time, 2006, 2007, 2008 try to reach out or did you of the relationship ended think about telling your story publicly? >> never. >> 2007, 2008. no, in fact i had media contact me h 2011. i for the life of me couldn't figure out who would leak something like this. i'm asking all my friends. i called him. i'm like did you tell fwhanybod. are you letelling anybody? he said no. i had manager, i had a couple of journalists following me. i had an old manager write them letters saying she did not have an affair relationship. i denied everything. i didn't want it out. >> you put out a denial to this in 2011? >> i did. did they print that denial. i don't know. my manager e-mailed this one repo

mcdougal with ami. the parent company of the national enquiner. both these women are dragging to drag agreements kept in secret, into the flight. asking the courts to free them to speak. in some ways, mcdougal's case is the bigger threat to the president. to start with this, mcdougal claims she has a consensual affair that starts around the same time as stormy daniels. who is the person on the other side of this agreement she signed? >> well, mcdougal signed an agreement with the parent coil of the "national enquirer." >> so mcdaniels has an agreement this llc that we've revealed is michael cohen is that the president. this is not the president that she got locked into this nda with. >> and i think the american public is getting a crash course on the role, david pecker is the head of american media. he's been a long time friend on donald trump. and there are mounting questions what role he played and what role this media organization played in catching and killing stories that could be damaging to the president. so, unknown to miss mcdougal, mr. d

mcdougal? >> reporter: taunting, daring, provoking president trump. >> we have a president that will tweet about the most mundane things. >> for some reason he can't come out and deny the affair. you know why he won't tweet about it, because it is true. >> reporter: only stab at a post 60 minutes tweet was generic. he is leaving the spin to his spokespeople. >> why haven't we heard from him? >> that will be up to the president. >> reporter: donald trump doesn't always zip it when facing accusations against women. >> look at her, look at her words, you tell me what you think? i don't think so. >> reporter: if the president insists on keeping a stormy silence, he has to hope that 60 minutes doesn't become 60 days. jeanne moos cnn, new york. >> anderson starts now. >>> tonight breaking news anybody the stormy daniels' story. we will show you my full 60 minutes conversation with her tonight. her attorney joins us as well. so does michael cohn's lawyer. new actions against russia in the near poise a

karen mcdougal spoke exclusively with cnn's anderson cooper just a little while ago. anderson is standing by. he's going to share details on what she said in just a moment. but right now, there's also breaking news in stormy daniels' legal battle with the president. our national correspondent, sara sidner, is following it all for us. sara, daniels' lawyer is now demanding that the trump organization preserve documents. >> yeah. stormy daniels and her attorney, michael avenue gnattn avenatti every legal tool they have so she can tell her story about the president. tonight, stormy daniels is not taking any chances in her battle with the president. in this new letter, daniels' lawyer says she plans to subpoena the trump organization and demands the company preserve any documents related to the hush money agreement the porn star signed, along with donald trump's lawyer, michael cohen. cohen has said he paid daniels $130,000 of his own money. this prevented daniels from talking publicly about allegations she had a sexual relationship with donald trump in 2006. but in this

that is mcdougal aets lawsuit. and he would like the talk but he cannot talk because of attorney-client privilege. >> all right. thank you. >>> what did the first lady to have say at her public appearance since the karen mcdougal's interview? that's next. ♪ [cheers] that's all it takes? guess i'll bring a can of this stuff everywhere. yeah! then i'll become the world's best dad. made with real cream. reddi-wip. instant greatification. dugard. >>> moments ago the president departed the white house. he was not accompanied by his wife melania trump on air force one. she is, however sperktexpected n the president. this all comes after a former playmate of the year apologized to the first lady for what she claimed was an affair that she had with donald trump. the first lady spoke not long ago in washington honoring women of courage. the questions are swirling about her reaction to these claims if karen mcdougal. the first lady has in the past sent various subtle but unmistakably public signals about her discontent wit

stormy daniels and karen mcdougal who say they were silenced about their alleged affairs with donald trump. the similarities are important because they show a pattern of alleged behavior, including intimidation. both say the relationships happened between 2006 and 2007 and both describe similar sexual experiences with donald trump. >> did he ever use protection? >> no. >> this happening around the time melania trump had her son in march of 2006. both these women say trump offered them an apartment in new york, which they refused. mcdougal says she was well into the relation ship when they both attended a lake tahoe golf tournament. he came in one day and said, there are a bunch of porn stars out there. >> one of the porn stars, daniels. >> i knew he talked to ladies, i didn't know there was anything else. i didn't know he was intimate with other ladies. >> except for his wife melania, of course. >> the only regret i have about the relationship was the fact that he was married. >> mcdougal even met the now first lady but told anderson cooper she purposely kept her distance from mrs. t

mcdougal's allegations totally untrue. she told us her account of another jarring aspect of any affair with a married man, meeting his wife and family. here's part two of our exclusive conversation. >> did he reference melania at that point? >> he did. we passed a room, and he said, this is melania's room. she likes to have her alone time or she likes to read. i said, okay. that's when i thought maybe they were having issues. i didn't ask. it's not my business. >> how did you feel? >> guilty, very guilty. i couldn't wait to get out of the apartment, actually. doing something, doing something wrong is bad enough, and when you're doing something wrong, and you're in the middle of somebody else's home or bed or whatever, that just puts it a little old stab in your heart, and i just couldn't wait to get out of the apartment. i wanted to go back to my hotel room. >> it made his other life more real? >> i was just going to say, it made it more real to me. yes. made it more real. >> did you see baron? >> no, i never saw baron. >>

>> people were comparing the interview between her and mcdougal. mcdougal was much more sympathetic -- i shouldn't say sympathetic, much more relatable character, right? and stormy daniels i found, listen both women said it happened. i believe them. but i thought that she had more credibility because she didn't make herself out to be some victim or she didn't want you to make her some sort of -- that she was polyannaish. she knew what she was getting into. >> i agree. there was a real frankness to everything she said. i didn't find myself saying i love this woman, i feel badly for her, any of those things. who pulls details like spanking sp shark week out of the thin air. i can't ploobelieve we're talki about this. >>> those have the feel, i can't believe we're talking about this, 2018 united states of america under donald trump. those have the feel of authentic details to me. >> and the phone calls. >> and the phone calls. >> and that match what karen mcdougal say the two woman don't know each other. and the daughter. >> to this day i just can't g

of course. >> reporter: mcdougal says she thought trump might marry her. she claims he once even brought her to trump tower. >> we passed a room, and he said, "this is melania's room. she likes to have her alone time or to get away to read or something like that." i'm like, "oh, okay." that's when i kind of thought maybe they're having issues. i didn't ask. >> reporter: now, she is apologizing to the first lady. >> i'm sorry. i'm sorry. i wouldn't want it done to me. i'm sorry. >> reporter: just before the election, mcdougal's story was bought by american media incorporated, which publishes "the national enquirer" and is owned by a close friend of the president's. they told her it would never be published, a practice known as "catch and kill." she's now suing, claiming she was tricked into staying silent. ami tells abc news "the suggestion that ami 'silenced' mcdougal is completely without merit." at the end of the presidential campaign, trump's then-spokeswoman hope hicks called mcdougal's claims about trump, totally untrue. >> lindsey davis with us. you

peter stris is also joining us, the lawyer for the former playmate, karen mcdougal who claims she, too, had an affair with mr. trump. and correspondents and analysts are standing by. first, let's go to michelle kosinski. the u.s. getting ready to expel 60 russian diplomats. >> this was a big coordinated effort, wolf, and the scope of it surprised many. we know some u.s. allies thought maybe the u.s. would match or nearly match what the uk did by expelling 23 russian diplomats and the attack happened on their soil but instead we saw this administration nearly triple that number and they hardly did this in the kindest, gentlest way possible flat out calling these russians intelligence agents saying this is going to significantly hurt russia's ability to spy on american soil. 60 russian diplomats. according to the trump administration, aggressive spies, have one week to pack their bags and get out. a dozen russians will be kicked out of new york at the u.n. 48 others at embassies and consulates around the u.s. the russian consulate in seattle will be shuttered. administration officials sa

mcdougal claims she had this ten-month affair with trump starting back in 2006. the white house has said trump denies this alleged affair. mcdougal is suing the national enquirer's parent company which is controlled by a man by the name of david pecker, friend and supporter of president trump's. mcdougal claims this catch and kill technique was used to protect trump and prevent her story from ever appearing in the tabloids. so i have maxine page with me, former executive editor for american media inc., the national enquirer's parent company and radar online, who can speak to this catch and kill. maxine, thank you for being with me. for people not in your world, walk me through, how does catch and kill work? >> you can get accidental catch and kill and you can get intentional. so we can get a story and we can run it through our legal team and then we'll run it, the last minute we'll run it to the celebrity's or the person of interest's lawyer and they will come back and say look, this is damaging to my client, and basically kill it. it can happen that way. or you

and while mcdougal's diary was recently excerpted in the new yorker story, american media says mcdougal did not have enough evidence to back up her story. now, we spoke to mr. avenati about why he paid $25,000 for that polygraph video. he told us he did so to ensure that it would be maintained and kept safely during the litigation, making sure that the video, which is also a file, would not be destroyed or tampered with, and said they did so after learning various parties, including mainstream media tried to get ahold of it to use it for nefarious reasons. we also should mention that when it comes to polygraph tests, generally, they're not admissible in court. wolf? >> sara sidner reporting for us. thanks for that report. let's bring back our legal analyst, laura coates. how strong a legal case do these women have? >> a variety of reasons they may not have strong case. stormy daniels of course has to overcome the fact that she entered into a contract that may in fact be valid. and what's trying to happen now is to figure out whether or not is what the public would like to know versus wh

>> people were comparing the interview between her and mcdougal. mcdougal was much more sympathetic -- i shouldn't say sympathetic, much more relatable character, right? and stormy daniels i found, listen both women said it happened. i believe them. but i thought that she had more credibility because she didn't make herself out to be some victim or she didn't want you to make her some sort of -- that she was polyannaish. she knew what she was getting into. >> i agree. there was a real frankness to everything she said. i didn't find myself saying i love this woman, i feel badly for her, any of those things. -- >>> those have the feel, i can't believe we're talking about this, 2018 united states of america under donald trump. those have the feel of authentic details to me. >> and the phone calls. >> and the phone calls. >> and that match what karen mcdougal say the two woman don't know each other. and the daughter. >> to this day i just can't get past the way he talks about ivanka, both the way he talked about her to howard stern in the past and the

karen mcdougal described the alleged relationship in her first tv interview. mcdougal is one of two women seeking to free themselves from legal agreements so they can speak freely about alleged affairs with the president. the other is adult film star stormy daniels. paula reid is at the white house. paula, good morning. >> reporter: good morning. karen mcdougal shared intimate details about her relationship with the president, but this could get her in trouble in a judge finds that this interview violates the agreement she made not to talk about her relationship with the president. speaking with anderson cooper, former playboy model karen mcdougal revealed details of her alleged ten-month affair with president trump, which she says began in summer 2006. >> after we had been intimate, he tried to pay me. and i actually did not know how to take that. >> did he try to hand you money? >> he did. >> reporter: mcdougal says she was attracted to trump, even in love, but admits she doesn't have much evidence to support her story. >> if you're in a loving relationship,

the attorney that represented stormy daniels and mcdougal says he would like to comment on what mcdougal said about him in the lawsuit but can't because of attorney-client privilege. >> thank you. to put it in focus, let's bring in a professor of politics at city unit in london. the porn actress, the former playboy model and the president of the united states. talk to us about what this means politically for mr. trump given these women are now speaking out? >> there's two things there. one is the standing of mr. trump in regard to morality is that most people don't believe he's particularly -- don't share their moral compass and don't believe he is honest. he is not going to be seen as a hypocrite and much political science research on scandals suggests if you are a hypocrite, you do something in private that you have not done publicly, you are protected. the number of cases is piling up. so, those people are independent or are going to leave him will probably continue to erode slowly. >> let's talk about stormy daniels attorney who says he has proof that his client had a sexual affair w

when it comes to karen mcdougal -- mixing them all, karen mcdougal or summer -- >> karen mcdougal. >> suing because she was hoodwinked by ami. >> bad lawyer. >> and her lawyers. that's dirty dealing that, again, will make her a sympathetic litigant against the president, or at least puts the president in a space where he's going, doing battle with someone -- >> okay. here's the toughest question, to jonathan, the toughest question of all, does this matter to trump supporters? any of it? >> none of it has yet. poll numbers among core supporters, that includes evangelicals -- >> he's at 43% now. >> if you were to draw up a blind -- no name, list all these revelations and hand that to your average evangelical voter they'd probably be aghast. donald trump, they staill suppot him, believe in his mission, even if they don't approve of his personal buy heaehavior. puts pressure on republicans to face more questions, a distraction -- >> does it make them want mike pence? >> i mean -- >> i'm serious. does it make them want mike pence? which means would they just as soon get this guy out of the

i'm sorry. >> karen mcdougal. reaction from our panel. david gergen, just in terms of the lawsuit she has filed. is it clear to you what legitimacy it has? >> i don't understand it. i'm perplexed by it. i don't understand why she's doing an interview with apologies to you. with i think that the it could have been handled differently. it's just inexplicable to me. the idea suing keith davidson as well for not telling her she was talking to michael cohen. my guess is, i haven't talked to keith, my guess is keith thought he was doing something good. he was talking to michael cohen to leverage a deal. with ami. because of michael cohen had not blessed it i'm sure ami was never going to pay her the money in the first place. so. >> she wants the life rights back from ami. that that's essentially what they own in that contract. is that something she can actually sue to get back? >> yes. she can sue to get that back. when you say you want your life rights back and you're not in this for the money, that's another thing this is perplexing. i don't

the latest accuser to come forward, former playboy model karen mcdougal. >> karen mcdougal had a sexual relationship with donald trump for ten months. it was a romantic relationship. they were together very often. >> reporter: the alleged affair was more than ten years ago. mcdougal says in 2016 she was paid $150,000 by "the national inquirer's" parent company to keep her secret. now she's suing american media inc whose boss is a friend of donald trump. mcdougal the second woman this month taking legal action to tell her story following stormy daniels. >> do you have a nondisclosure agreement? >> do i? >> this is a photo of her taking a lie detector test in 2011. the polygraphed report obtained by nbc news found the examiner to find daniels to be truthful to say she had unprotected sex with donald trump. the white house repeatedly called the claims false. overnight daniels tweeted, technically i didn't sleep with the potus 12 years ago. there was no sleeping. adding, i'm not going anywhere. on tuesday a new york judge rule in favor of former "apprentice" con test isn't a siri ramos deny

and this is when donald trump reportedly met karen mcdougal for the first time. you roll up to hugh hefner's house. who was there? >> first we were greeted by his three -- i guess not three wives, but three girlfriends, i suppose. don't remember all their names but they were there. and then we sort of had a discussion with hechlt fner about half an hour and there was a bunch of playmates who were out in the backyard in the grotto. there's a zoo. they have all kinds of stuff back there. karen mcdougal was back there and trump eventually joined us for the party. >> did you know who she was at the time? >> she was actually pointed out. i remember that she was very friendly. she seemed -- everyone, actually, other than trump, of course, other than our president, seemed very gracious to everyone, was friendly, sort of mingling. and, of course, you know, the president was there and sort of holding court and sort of sizing everyone up. of course, >> why do you say that? how do you know he was sizing them up? what did you see? >> well, you kind of see his eyes and you se

>> he was, yeah. >> reporter: mcdougal claiming mr. trump once handed her money after sex. >> i looked at him and i said, that's not me. i'm not that kind of girl. >> reporter: she says she ended the relationship out of guilt. >> if melania trump is watching this, what would you want her to know? >> i'm sorry. i wouldn't want it done to me. >> reporter: the proof mcdougal offered of the affair, her journal entries with d.t. to mark time they spent together and group photos with the president and his family. mcdougal now suing the publisher of "the national enquirer" saying it bought the rights to her story in 2016 never intending to publish it, but the publisher tells nbc news that's untrue and that karen has been free, has spoken freely and remains free to speak regarding her story. the white house has called her allegations of an affair totally untrue and fake news. kristen welker, nbc news, the white house. >>> a late move by the justice department tonight issuing a proposed ban on firearm bumpstocks that president trump promised in

>> the agreements between daniels and mcdougal differ significantly. but the overarching mission of the trump team is the same, to silence the women who entered the agreement. mcdougal entered a licensing agreement, the same way a music artist may license his or her song. she licensed her story and gave that exclusive license as a work of art, so to speak, to ami, the company that owns "the national inquirer." so the goal is to get out of that licensing agreement based on three arguments, two of which are very significant. first that the contract was illegal because it sought to -- it was really just a thinly disguised campaign contribution by a corporation. and number two, her attorney defrauded her into entering the agreement because she didn't understand the essential terms of the agreement because the attorney allegedly was working in collusion with the trump team. those are very, very strong arguments for voiding the contract as if it had never been created. so these are solid contract defenses. mcdougal has a decent chance at winning if she can s

karen mcdougal says the opposite. that she contracted to speak. and she's alleging today, and we don't have the papers yet, so i have to say, i'm basing this off "new york times" reporting, that she thought she was making a deal to talk about things in the "national enquirer." then after she takes the money, she's basically told, through this very odd arrangement -- why is michael cohen involved in any way with the nation"national e " enquirer's" publication materials, but then she's told, you can't talk at all, you have to deny, and she, as other women have been, this is her side of the story, she feels tricked, threatened, and warned that she could face serious financial penalties and bankruptcy. and i can tell you from reporting on these stories in a broader ambit, this is something other women accusers have complained and faced and felt misled about. the law doesn't always support a contract if it's based on a law. the other side of this coin will be the enquirer saying, here's the truth that you took money for this and we retain the authority

the president denies having an affair with mcdougal. porn star stormy daniels said she was having an affair the same time as mcdougal. you can watch stormy daniels' interview on "60 minutes" on sunday night. she speaks about the alleged relationship. president trump has denied that affair as well. >>> well, early this morning congress passed a $1.3 trillion spending bill to keep the government funded through september. the president is expected to sign the bill today. the senate passed the measure hours after the house averting a shutdown at midnight tonight. the bill provides big spending increases for defense and domestic programs. some republicans opposed to the increased spending didn't relent until the end. >> and this morning the fbi's investigating a cyber attack on the city of atlanta that's holding municipal systems hostage. the attack shut down many of the city's computer systems. it's unclear if any personal data has been compromised. the ransomled fois bitcoin. the systems affected include customers' ability to pay city bill

carol mcdougall has filed a lawsuit. three months before the election, mcdougall sold her rights to media incorporated for 150,0$150,00 $150,000. >>> ahead on "cbs this morning" we'll talk to karen mcdougal's current attorney about what she hopes to accomplish with this suit. >>> while the president is taking heat this morning following a phone call with vladimir putin, mr. trump spoke with putin yesterday and cong t congratulated him on getting elected. the president's own advisers warned him not to congratulate putin. that's according to the "washington post." at least two senior republicans mitch mcconnell and john mccain say the president made a bad choice. >>> it's not clear whether a 17-year-old gunman who opened fire in a high school in maryland took his own life or was killed by an officer who con fronted him. austin rollins had some type of relationship with one of the victims. he was confronted within a minute by a school resource officer blaine gaskill who's being congratulated. >>> cambridge analytica, a brit

mcdougal had been silenced. randy kaye, cnn, new york. >> michael cohen, of course, has a standing invitation to come on the broadcast. so far he has yet to accept. joining us now david schwartz and michael avenatti. according to report he released from that polygraph test stormy daniels was, and i'm quoting here, truthful about having unprotected vaginal intercourse with trump in 2006. a reminder that polygraphs are not generally admizabssible in courts. does it help your legal case, actually? >> i don't know it helps our legal case, but we want the public to have as many facts as possible at their disposal. our position, anderson, has been consistent for weeks now. we want to public to know the facts, to know my client's story to the extent that mr. cohen or the president have an alternative narrative tat hay wish to provide, they should provide it. you know, i'll note that while lie detector tests are not admissible in most courts of law, i believe the attorney general has recently argued for the use as it re

karen mcdougal says she had a ten-month affair with donald trump. she is suing american media, inc., which is the company that owns the "national enquirer." she says she was paid $150,000 but the publication never ran the story. this is a practice commonly known as catch and kill. she said that, in addition to that, that the company has threatened her with financial ruin. so this is the second woman now that we know of that wants to take legal action in order to be able to tell her story about donald trump. >> both of these cases deal with consensual relationships and non-disclosure agreement. this other case, athena jones, not consensual at all. it has to do with former apprentice contestant summer zervos. >> she says trump assaulted her in 2007. she said unwanted kisses, at one point kissed her aggressively, touched her breast. she made these allegations in october of 2016, close to the election. that very same day, candidate trump denied the allegation, continued to deny in on twitter, campaign rallies and debates. not just allegations made by su

mcdougal began by describing her first date with mr. trump, this is what she said. >> we were driving over to the beverly hills hotel, and keith drove around to the back and said we have to get out here because we don't want to walk through the hotel. so i'm thinking to myself, are we going to a room? because i thought we were going to have dinner at the hotel. >> in the central restaurant? >> we did have dinner at the hotel, but in his bungalow. we had a great time, we're getting to know each other, we're talking about his birthday. and as the night ended, we were intimate. after we had been intimate, he tried to pay me, and i actually didn't know how to take that. >> did he actually try to hand you money? >> he did, and i said, i just had this look of, i don't know, just -- i don't even know how to describe it. the look on my face must have been so sad because i had never been offered money like that, but number two, i thought does he think i'm here for money? is this a normal thing? but i looked at him and said, that's not me, i'm no

it was a couple hours before the mcdougal interview aired that trump ousted h.r. mcmaster and replaced him with john bolton, one of the most hawkish foreign policy figures in the country who's advocated preemptive war with iran and north korea among other countries he'd like to see the u.s. attack. the firing of mcmaster and the hiring of bolton came as a surprise to white house chief -- to the white house staff who weren't expecting the announcement for at least another week. neither, apparently, was bolton. >> i think i still am a fox news contributor. >> no, you're not, apparently. >> i didn't -- well, i haven't started there yet so that demonstrates, i think, the limbo that i'm in because i didn't expect an announcement this afternoon. >> after firing his secretary of state last week, the president reportedly has plans to get rid of two more cabinet members -- david shulkin at veterans affairs and ben carson at housing and urban development who both faced allegations of abusing public funds. according to exclusive reporting by nbc news, the president has consi

karen mcdougal said it happened before trump was president. it began a few months after melania trump gave birth. >> so tell me about your first date. >> our first date i was told we were going to go to the beverly hills hotel for dinner. he told me keith his bodyguard was going to pick me up and then we were driving over to the beverly hills total. keith drove around to the back. he said we have to get out here because we don't want to walk through the hotel. at that minute i'm thinking to myself, are we going to a room? i thought we were having dinner at the beverly hills hotel. >> in the actual restaurant? >> right. we did have dinner at the beverly hills hotel. we talked for a couple hours. we were getting to know each other. we were talking about his birthday. as the night ended, we were intimate. >> what happened after you had been intimate? >> well, after we had been intimate, he tried to pay me. and i actually didn't know how to take that. >> did he try to hand you money? >> he did. and i said -- i just had this look of, i don't know -

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