she -- resurection. she who shares fully in the cross and the burial of the tomb shares in the resurrection. she is the searcher of those who are lost, quick to hear and listen to and respond to the needs of her children. >> yeah. >> so all of this is not modeling so much as it is the reality that out of the pain and sorrow is born a new life, the joy of life in the spirit which is the res sur recollection itself -- resurrection itself. >> when we come back we will talk about the way we meet mary through the rosary, please rejoin us. >>> welcome back. we're going to talk with father kevin about the rosary. everyone knows saying the rosary consists of saying the hail mary over and over again but there is a deeper thing called mysteries. this is what we contemplate. can you explain that to us. >> getting back to the heart of our lady and why we should pray the rosary through her heart as it were is because she is the first one described in the gospel of luke who holds, who upon deers, who treasures all the