and now i think -- you don't delay a confirmation hearing for nothing. >> johnny isakson seems to be giving him the benefit of the doubt. it is all -- it sounds like this is really just coming at the senators, they're really just -- that also leads me to wonder, was -- did the white house have no inkling about it or they didn't -- they didn't care about it? the allegations against him, which it is not -- it has not become clear exactly what all the allegations are. >> that's a very good question. i'll remind you that we had incidents, johnny mcintee, rob porter, we have had situations where people working in close proximity to the president of the united states seemed to have issues in their background that you would think would have disqualified them on the front end and didn't. now, that doesn't directly answer your question, kate, which is how much did they know if anything. but i wouldn't say, well, just because he's the white house physician, i wouldn't say that means the white house was aware necessarily of some of these allegations because if past is prologue, they might not h

it required chris coons of delaware to vote present because johnny isakson couldn't make it there. it is seen by many as an act of bipartisanship. i'm wondering if you can reflect on that moment. >> i think it is an act of courtesy. our committee does try to work in a bipartisan manner and i think the reputation of the senate foreign relation s committee is that we do that. the circumstances are such that the committee supported pompeo, i did not. that is going to the floor of the united states senate. >> where you will once again vote against it, sir, correct? >> that's correct. i believe our secretary of state needs to be the top diplomat in our country. always recognizing that we should use diplomacy certainly before we use military. and mr. pompeo's record on iran, the record in regard to the paris climate talks, gives me grave concern as to whether he can carry out that responsibility. >> on the subject of iran, very much at the top of the meetings between the french leader emmanuel macron and president trump, we watched the arrival of president macron at the white house and o

continues with the politics of personal destruction. >> why was johnny isakson part of this, why are so many republicans concerned about these allegations? i agree, it's problematic if they're wrong. >> when it comes to politics of personal destruction and this president, there's a simple way to -- if the white house is so confident that he's been wronged, put his nomination up again. >> right. >> do it. >> send it back to the committee. if they think this is a complete scam and a lie and tester is doing this off the top of my head, they should put it back before the committee. >> you're missing point. >> what can he know about tester? maybe tester's private attorney paid a porn star $130,000. >> this is the problem. remember what happened with the senator from alaska, they came after him and years after he died -- >> ted stevens. >> ted stevens, he was exonerated. we destroy people's credibility. we tear people down. you be substantiated facts. stick it out there and it may or may not be true, give me a break. >> did you like when ted cruz' dad killed jfk? >> lock her up. >> hang on

johnny isakson was the only member of the committee missing from the vote. here's the hour-long meeting. with our discussing a way forward for this. today will discuss the nomination of mike pompeo to be the next secretary of state. we will also consider two other nominations and a fine foreign services officer list. i will make comments on our nominee and ask center menendez to do the same. desk other members who wish to speak to the nomination to do so in the actual -- when the actual vote takes place. i know everyone has sent out a statement. hopefully not everyone will need to speak. i surly want to accommodate those who wish to do so. its spread ever secretary of state nominee, i want to talk about our committee briefly. committee was established in 1816 and one of the original standing committees of the senate. without jurisdiction over legislation concerning the conduct of u.s. foreign policy, including foreign assistance, treaties, declarations of war, among other matters. are also responsible for the oversight of the state department, review executi

johnny isakson give the eulogy to his best friend into a not be back until 11:30 p.m. this evening. we have 11 ayes, and 10 nos. we can do this several different ways. it is historic to send a secretary of state to the floor that a positive recommendation. it can be done in other ways, we know the other ways it could be done. but, when you consider the fact when of our most respected isakson, whynator no has come to us on many occasions, has paired what's with "and you voted present so the outcome would be the way it was supposed to be if everyone was here. i'd ask the indulgence of the committee know what we have 11 members who voted yes and 10 members wanted no -- i would ask the committee understanding the historic nature of this that the in'sttee by voice vote this nominee to the floor with a positive recommendation knowing that if johnny isakson was here, a valued member -- if you were would be voting for this at 11:30 p.m. at night, and this nominee would go to the floor with a positive recommendation. will have airman, great deal of respect for senator isakson. a secretaryte

isakson who was one of the first to raise concerns. you can criticize john tester and say his candy man comments were inappropriate but georgia republican center from georgia johnny isakson was one of the first to raise a flag and that undercuts the president's claim that it's about obstruction. >> the president is saying john tester, democrat from montana, who, by the way, is known as one of the centrists. he works with both sides of the aisle, that he's going to have a big price to pay in montana because of this. if trump's so confident that this was so wrong, why dependents he stand by his guy? why didn't he exercise this famed loyalty that only seems to work one way and this is another example of it? he could've said i don't care what you people say about ronny jackson, you want to see proof, you want this confirmation to happen because you can't stop the confirmation hearing unless the republicans want it or stalled or stopped? why didn't he flex like that? >> reporter: it is surprising, chris, that the president didn't do more to

republican committee chairman johnny isakson promised just that. >> so i'm going to make sure we have an open fair hearing for the american people. >> but republicans are divided over how to proceed. when i asked one senior republican senator earlier what's the level of patience among all of his colleagues with all this drama, he said it's, quote, very thin. ed o'keefe, cbs news, capitol hill. >>> well, president trump's personal attorney michael cohen will invoke his fifth amendment in self-incrimination regarding the case with daniels. cohen said he paid daniels $130,000 to keep quiet, but now she's sueing to invalidate that agreement. the fbi raided cohen's home and office earlier this month seeking records on the nondisclosure agreement. daniels' lawyer calls cohen's decision to invoke the fifth a stunning development. >>> a decision isn't expected until jurngs but it appears the supreme court is ready to uphold president trump's travel ban. the justices heard arguments yesterday. lower courts had struck down versions which bans travelers from five mostly muslim countries as well

is he friends with johnny isakson. they are friends. johnny is giving the eulogy at his best friend's funeral. we know how he stands. chris coons said i will vote present we will put it to the general floor which means is he going to pass. democrats who said they would vote for him. joe donnelly all supporting him on the fence is you chuck schumer, mark warner, angus king claire mccaskill he is going to have votes. you are right, ainsley of alabama. we are used to getting 80 votes for a secretary of state. but, for some reason it's just so partisan. having a hard time. ainsley: watching "fox & friends first." they had a full screen up. they had a chart up of all the people that have been confirmed in the past for secretary of state. colin powell 100 to 0. they supported whoever the president wanted. condoleezza rice 85-13. will john kerry 94-3. brian: if we wanted to get that chart how much would it cost us? jillian: a lot of money. brian: you are the one that made it. jillian: i did not make it. ainsley: i was watching you this morning

this morning, republican committee chairman johnny isakson promised just that. >> so i'm going to make sure we have an open, fair hearing for the american people. >> reporter: but republicans are divided over exactly how to proceed. when i asked one senior republican senator earlier, "what's the level of patience among his g.o.p. colleagues for all this drama," jeff, he said it's "very thin." >> glor: all right. ed o'keefe continuing his reporting on this story. thank you. we're going to go to major garrett now at the white house. so major, how much did the white house know about these allegations before, and what's your sense of what they'll do now? >> reporter: well, not nearly enough to prepare for this battle, jeff. the white house knew there were general concerns that were likely to be raised about a workplace environment that might have been too hostile, and in fact, ran questions about that past jackson through no fewer than four confirmation hearing prep sessions. but the white house says it was blindsided by these accusations of either the excessive drinking or the too-freely

this morning, republican committee chairman johnny isakson promised just that. >> so i'm going to make sure we have an open, fair hearing for the american people. >> reporter: but republicans are divided over exactly how to proceed. when i asked one senior republican senator earlier, what's the level of patience among his g.o.p. colleagues for all this drama, jeff, he said it's "very thin." >>> a former police officer has been arrested as the so called golden gate killer who terrorized the golden gate in the 70s and 80s responsible for 175 crimes including dozen homicides and 45 rains. >> law enforcement officials from across california gathered for the announcement that after more than 40 years, they had found the golden state killer. >> yesterday afternoon, my detectives arrested james joseph deangelo, 72, living in citrus heights. >> reporter: he's suspected of more than 50 rapes and 12 murders between 1976 and 1986. at the beginning of his spree, anne marie schubert, now sacramento's district attorney, was 12 years old. >> it's in the matter of if he was coming again, it's when. it

johnny johnny isakson makes the decision. johnny is concerned enough, i have talked to at least three about it so far in the veterans committee, they are all concerned about what's going on. that's why they delayed it. they wouldn't have delayed it if they thought the charges were empty. it is is clear that -- veterans have not come first in this whole process. that's what is disturbing. and i wish the white house would have a backup plan. it is pretty clear admiral jackson's nomination is in at least some trouble. and the white house should be thinking whom do we want to select to be head of the v.a. they had a v.a. running relatively well. veterans groups were happy with shulkin. they fired him because they didn't like his politics. now look what they've dup. and i just want to fix this. >> do you think ronny jackson is going to survive this day? >> i don't know about this day. there are community-based outpatient in swraeupbsville, lima, chillicothe. people who work at the v.a., people recruited by the v.a. to work there,

isakson couldn't vote because of a funeral. >> committee chairman bob corker holding back tears when describing how he felt about senator cruz decision. >> i in particular want to thank senator cruz for display in the statesmanship that i've been accustomed to seeing in the senate and i'm proud of him, part of our committee. gerri: pompeo expected to be confirmed by the senate later on this week. meanwhile, senator rand paul will be on "mornings with maria" 8:30 a.m. eastern time. again, critical vote on the committee last night. gerri: president trump meanwhile set to meet with french president emmanuelle macron at the white house. the two leaders to discuss key issues including terrorists, the iran nuclear deal which macron wants the president to support. cheryl: last night they had dinner at mount vernon and virginia opening the first state visit of the trump administration. caroline shively with details. >> these two leaders that relaxed and friendly sharing handshakes and hugs that the issues facing them are anything but easy. >> president trump and french president macron went

johnny isakson's vote count if it isn't the deciding vote so it was an 11-nine with i believe there was one vote that what would you call that? not present. called present. okay. it was 11-nine and that was a terrific thing. but they failed to stop him. now they say who is next? and this person, admiral jackson, doctor jackson, a wonderful man, i said to him what you need it for? and as far as experience is concerned the veterans administration which is approximately 13 million people is so big you could run the biggest hospital system in the world and its small time compared to the veterans administration. no one has the experience. he is a leader and a good man. i told him and i said, you are to find a person and his son is a top student at annapolis and he's a high-quality person. i said what do you need it for? it's totally his decision but he will be making a decision but they failed with mike pompeo and that was a big, big hit because they thought they could stop him and embarrass him and the democrats have become obstructionist. that is all they are good at. the not good at anyth

and we expect to find out more from the top members of that committee including johnny isakson was wrapped up in some of the drama around mike pompeo yesterday because he was out of town until late last night. but the expectation is that this hearing that was scheduled for wednesday will be put on hold again perhaps indefinitely while senators take a much closer look at ronnie jackson's background. >> okay. let's talk mike pompeo for a second because he got over a key hurdle yesterday. is he on track to be confirmed as secretary of state? >> he can. barring some kind of enormous surprise, mike pompeo will be confirmed by the full senate likely as earlies that week. there's a nato meeting at the end of this week that he would like to be able to 'tend as the secretary of state. sounds like he'll get there the. flip here, the big moment of drama was rand paul who changed his vote or decided to change his vote at the last moment last night. moving pompeo out of committee into the floor early this week. stephanie. >> all right. i want to bring in john brennan. former cia director and one of our

you know johnny isakson's vote counts if it wasn't the deciding vote. so it was 11-9 with i believe -- there was one vote -- what would you call that? reporter: a present vote. president trump: not president. reporter: present. president trump: so it was 11-9. that was a terrific thing. but they failed to stop him. so now they say, who's next? who's next? and this person, admiral jackson, dr. jackson, wonderful man. i said to him, what do you need it for? and as far as experience is concerned, the veterans administration, which is approximately 13 million people, it is so big, you could run the biggest hospital system in the world and it's small-time compared to the veterans administration. so nobody has the experience. what he is is a leader and a good man. but i told him, i said, you know what, doc, you're too fine a person. his son's a top student at annapolis. he's a high-quality person. i said, what do you need it for? so he'll be -- it's totally his decision. but he'll be making the decision. but they failed with mike pompeo. and that was a big, b

. >> i was grateful for the chance on monday to make a small gesture for johnny isakson of georgia. i know he had an exceptionally difficult day. he delivered the eulogy at his best friend's funeral. we were in a place where we had taken the vote on foreign relations and every democrat voted against it. he put in question, are we going to make johnny come up here at 11:00 or later tonight and reconvene for the same boat with the same result? i changed my vote just to accommodate. it didn't change the outcome. >> martha: that did not go forward, you are going to vote against mike pompeo for secretary of state tomorrow afternoon? >> i am and if i could, i would love a moment to explain that what i was doing was paying it forward. republican senator mike brown of south dakota last year when my father died unexpectedly, and i was on the floor looking and feeling miserable, he came across the floor and said to me, if you need to leave and go be with her family, we'll work it out so it doesn't change the outcome of the vote so you can go be with your family. that meant the world to me and

as you know, johnny isakson's vote counts. it was actually 11-9, i believe there was one vote. what would you call that? speak of the present speak of the present vote. >> president trump: not president. >> present. >> president trump: who is next? dr. jackson, a wonderful man. i say what you need need it for? as far as experience is concerned, the veterans administration, approximately 13 million people, so big, you could run the biggest hospital system in the world, its small time compared to the veterans administration. nobody has experience. he's a leader and a good man. i said do you know what? you are too find a person. his son is a top student at annapolis. he's a high-quality person. i said "what do you need it for?" it's totally his decision but you will be making a decision. they failed with mike pompeo. and that was a big, big hit because they thought they could stop him and embarrass him. the democrats have become obstructionists. that's all they are good at. they have bad ideas. they have bad politics. the one thing they do is obstruct. i'm waiting for -- she would

johnny isakson was one of the first. in his job review, in which the administration released from president obama was glowing. it express said an enormous amount of confidence in dr. jackson. at the end of the day, this is a problem of donald trump's making. it is impulsiveness to nominate someone who hasn't been properly vetted. mr. president, you're to blame for creating this circumstance for dr. jackson. >> the concerns are telescoped. nick mulvaney. this is one of the broadside assaults on on what we are seeing with this administration. mulvaney doesn't like the agency or bureau he is now overseeing, the consumer protection bureau which now he wants to take something different to take financial services out of it because he was giving a speech to bankers and do everything he could to assure them, we will go easy on you. he headed the agency to protect people against bankers who aren't behaving properly. we had a hierarchy in my office in congress. if you're a lobbyist who never gave us mope, i didn't talk to you. if

but my friend and colleague johnny isakson didn't make the plane that would have gotten him to the hearing by 5:00 or 5:30. as with sat there, the committee chair made it clear to us we had two options, one of us could change to voting present and we could move forward or we could reconvene after 11:00 at night, make johnny come up, come in, make all of us reconvene is and cast exactly the same vote with exacy the same outcome. it was a small gesture. >> let me play his thank you to you. >> i particularly want to thank in particular senator coons for applying the statesmanship that i've been accustomed to seeing in the senate. senators at the right time to can do you think things. >> what did you think about him getting choked up there? >> you know, i've grateful for the chance to work with senator corker. last year we spent easter or weekend visiting a refugee camp in south sudan and uganda. he's someone i enjoy working with. when my own father passed away a year ago in february, senator mike rounds, a republican from south dakota came across the floor and looked at me and said you need t

tester wrote the va accountability bill along with marco rubio and johnny isakson. he withdrew his name from and president trump said last night right now he's looking to five different candidates who want the job. >> ellison barber with the latest. thank you so much. >> let's look at the jokes last night given by "the daily show" writer whether or not it's family-friendly tv. while many say the personal jobs of press secretary sarah sanders crossed the line of even bad taste, here's a sample of what we can play for you. >> i actually really like sarah. i think she's very resourceful. like she burns and then she uses the ash to create a perfect smoky eye. maybe she's born with it, maybe its allies. >> chairman of the american conservative union was there last night at least for part of the performance and then not there for the rest of it. >> we know would be rough. it's always rough. here's how the white house or sponsor works. they make fun of republicans. republicans have the white house, they make fun of republicans. you know that how it's going to go. the presi

they could and re-voted after johnny isakson got back from his funeral. they could've had another meeting and voted again. could have been reported out of committee with an unfavorable recommendation which gets it to the floor. unless democrats wouldn't go along with that which would seem a little bit odd. i think what happened is about as good an outcome as you could expect far the republicans and the nominee under the circumstances. it's characteristic of the senate at its best that a member of the other party. senator coons will almost certainly vote no on the floor but allowing the nomination to proceed for the full consideration by the senate is pretty much in the tradition the way the senate as usually operated. it's a good development. >> bret: you just saw senator paul leave the committee room. obviously had a change of heart after meeting with the president and also meeting with cia director and nominee pompeo. >> well, i think in the case of rand paul, he's idiosyncratic. he is one of a kind. he votes what he considers to be his conscience. in t

in a letter to the president, senator johnny isakson, a trump loyalist and ranking veteran affairs member senator jon tester asked for more documentation of jackson's service in light of the allegations. >> the allegations that have come out against admiral jackson are very disturbing. >> probably makes sense for the president to spend a little more time doing research on his own nominees. >> republican senator jerry moran pushed back after meeting with admiral jackson. >> he indicated he was anxious for his hearing and would like to respond to the allegations come although my impression is he doesn't know exactly what they are either. >> a 2012 navy medical inspector general report criticized the command climate under then captain jackson and navy captain jeffrey coleman who served as the president's personal physician. those who worked under these two men said it was like living with two parents going through a bitter divorce. the ig report made no mention about alcohol or prescription abuse. it blamed much of the climate on jackson's arrival. >> bret: jennifer griffin live at the penta

. >> the white house continues to push senator johnny isakson to reschedule the confirmation hearing. also on capitol hill today, attorney general jeff sessions under fire over reports his recusal from the russia investigation does not extend to the investigation of michael cohen. >> are you recused from the federal investigation of the president's attorney, michael cohen? >> it's the policy of the department of justice that those who have recused themselves not state the details of it. >> sessions got into a heated exchange with democratic senator chris van hollen over presidential pardons and whether they went through the appropriate process. >> did the pardon of sheriff joseph arpaio go through the attorney's office? >> i don't believe it did. >> did the pardon of scooter libby go through? >> i don't believe it did. >> i am quoting from a statement you made saying it it was an abuse of process and a particular case made by president clinton. >> the pardons president clinton made were shocking, stunning, and on a comfortable. >> also facing heat, the presidents budget director mick

isakson. >> but given the fact that the accusations were taken seriously but some may not have a lot of merit, should dr. jackson have stayed and fought, gone to the eventual hearing and said these are baseless lies and defended that. >> i'll take her point and say these are tough experiences for individual nominees, and this is not just a situation where the president says this is a person i want and a person shows up on capitol hill. there are strategies, people that consult on trying to get people actually passed through this process. when you don't have that in place, when you don't have a thorough vetting process, when you don't construct a campaign around a nominee, it becomes difficult to get over that hamp. i imagine that if none of that is in place and he doesn't want to continue to put his family through this i can't imagine why he would go through the process. >>> let's talk about scott pruitt. he didn't show any remorse for his spending habits when he was asked by lawmakers. i want to play a piece of sound. >> yes or no. >> to live in a way -- do you have any remorse? gli

turns out another republican johnny isakson was not in committee today, they needed his vote but he was speaki at a a memorial service. all this, cut to the chase, led to a very stasngewhere the committee chairman bob corker had to turn to democrats and ask them, will one of you vote present even though you oppose this nominee so we can move forward without having a late vote tonight? that democrat whodithat was chris coons of delaware and said he will do it out of respect for his colleague senator from georgia, cert isason so we will have a favorable vote. which is not what we expected. he moves to the full senate floor with the wind behind him. >> nawaz: let's talk about the basis of the opposition, because it was a partisan split, rand paul lining up with the democrats. atere were they kicking in? >> one, the sor ranking democrat on the committee said mike pompeo said two different things at different times. is he for human righs or against gay rights? mike pompeo said he does n support gay marriage, for instance. there are questions for how much he support diplomacy. that's where vi

committee johnny isakson asked if he can be confirmed, the senator said we'll see. i want to go to kristen welker. this is extraordinary here because ronny jackson was the white house doctor for the administration for president trump. i've spoken to people inside the white house and from obama's team who said he's a great guy to work with. but is the issue here, he might be a good doctor, but he's not qualified to be the va secretary? and the white house is now feeling the blowback? >> well, there are two components to that steph. first, these allegations. and as you just played that sound bite, his response to garrett hague, ronny jackson says he has a right to defend himself and essentially say these allegations are false. i've been talking to white house officials who say they want him to have that chance. and i think what you're going to see in the coming hours and coming days is a more robust attempt from the white house to really defend ronny jackson and to roll out some of his credentials and try to put the focus on that. there's a sense maybe there wasn't en

and among them are two of our colleagues, johnny isakson and jon tester. senator isakson of georgia and senator tester of montana have helped to lead the veterans affairs committee over the past few days as it raises concerns and questions about the serious allegation made by men and women in uniform or retired active duty military. these concerns go directly to the ethics and integrity and character and ability of the president's nominee to be v.a. secretary, ronnie jackson, a rear admiral in the united states navy. there is no realistic path at this point to confirmation of admiral jackson. he should have a hearing if he wishes. he should be considered if he chooses, but the administration owes the american people as we8l as the senate answers to questions raised by the chairman and ranking member of the v.a. committee. i have talked to both of them about this investigation as well as the staff and have participated in their thinking and support their efforts to uncover the truth. facts are stubborn things. that's what ronald reagan said. it remains true

johnny isakson has been part of that. he picks a partisan way but does it in a way that is debating. >> it is also baiting. if it is so important to change the outcome of an election, doesn't he have a duty to the american people to let them know as their number one lawmaker, their number one leader. shouldn't he say what he knows? if it would definitely change the fate of an election. >> he is making them up. >> we do call him out. unfortunately it looks like those defending donald trump never call him out. >> and i think that's fair. and you also have to do both sides, which frustrates everybody. two weeks ago alisyn and i were talking about the implications of what happens with the koreas. if you're able to have something that goes from armistice to real peace at the partial or full urging of the united states government under the trump administration, that is the stuff of a peace prize. and i got rained down on for normalizing trump and all you saw the south korean president said i think for the efforts so far preside

>> senator tester and the republican chairman of the veterans affairs committee johnny isakson said they would delay the confirmation hearing it till later notice. labor secretary andrew pudster withdrew his nomination after scrutiny of his policies. michael flynn was forced to resign under the cloud of a russian investigation. rob porter home run allegations of domestic allegations. tonight a senior white house official tells nbc news jackson met with the trump in the oval office late this afternoon described as a positive meeting. that official also says dr. jackson's record as a white house physician is impeccable. he has improved unit morale, received glowing reviews and promotions under republican and democratic preys and been given a clean vet from the fbi. i'm joined by kristin weller, robert costa, "washington post," national political reporter and senator richard blumenthal of connecticut. i want to start with the reporting from kristin. this doesn't stack up, impeccable record, everything's fine. no blemish on it. and yet, drunk on the job. from a number of sources including th

look, i know everybody is blaming the democrats including trump, but johnny isakson, said there's enough to delay the hearings. he thought the charges were serious. i can't imagine a medical board wouldn't. >> does the medical board take action now? >> they have to. these are like public allegations. i think they're going to have to move and the other question is do we want to really trust trump's physical? remember all the stuff about that? >> that's what i thought. steve, to art's point, the president absolutely is blaming democrats for jackson's withdrawal. let's listen to what he said on fox this morning. >> an incredible man. respected by president obama. gave him his highest rating. you saw what president obama said. president bush. he was the doctor to president bush and obama and the family. he's been my doctor, and he runs a fantastic operation. the democrats are obstructionists. it's horrible what they're doing. they're not approving people. they're taking them out to the maximum 30 hours. that's a lot of time. 30 hours to interview people that are going to be approved. >> stev

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turns out another republican johnny isakson was not in committee today, they needed his vote but he was speaki at a a memorial service. all this, cut to the chase, led to a very stasngewhere the committee chairman bob corker had to turn to democrats and ask them, will one of you vote present even though you oppose this nominee so we can move forward without having a late vote tonight? that democrat whodithat was chris coons of delaware and said he will do it out of respect for his colleague senator from georgia, cert isason so we will have a favorable vote. which is not what we expected. he moves to thena full floor with the wind behind him. >> nawaz: let's talk about thes ba the opposition, because it was a partisasplit, rand paul lining up with the democrats. where were they kicking in? >> one, the senator ranking democratn the committee sa mike pompeo said two different things at different times. is he for human rights or against gay rights? mike pompeo said he does not support gay marriage, for instance. there are questions for how much he supports diplo.ma that's where virginia sen

. >> a spokesman for johnny isakson, tester's republican counterpart on that committee told a report they're senator isakson did not have a problem with how these were reported. i don't know if you know this, the fact that the president no longer has him as physician does tell you there is more than a modicum of truth to the charges made against admiral jackson during the course of this controversy of just as recently as a week ago. >> well, yes and no. a lot of the sort of toughest allegations, the one that immediately derailed his nomination have sort of been difficult to either prove or disprove. and that's what people are working on. there are very clear concerns about his qualifications to lead the v.a. that sort of never even got discussed because of this second set of allegations. and those allegations presumably he may not be qualified to lead the v.a. but he is certainly qualified to be the president's physician. it is sort of an open question now what happens. >> you mean he's a drunk, but he is capable of taking care of the president's health? either it's true or it's. no

isakson who is taking these seriously and he won't pre-judge whether these are true or not but also wants to investigate this further. but this is a democratic memo that is being circulated on capitol hill, the leadership office and various committees but enough for these -- for the republicans to decide that they want to put the brakes on this and investigate this further because as one republican on the committee mike rounds told me, there are incredible sources behind the information and they want to see if there is truth behind them. >> one last quick question, do we have any idea of what kind of prescription medication dr. jackson was allegedly prescribing or not -- just handing out and called the candy man. it is one thing if it is an over night trip and giving ambien to sleep and another if he is handing out opioids like percocets. >> reporter: it does talk about percocet and it is used for pain through the -- there was missing percocet apparently and it threw the white house military health office -- the office into panic. it turned out that according to the dom, it turned o

i watched yesterday where johnny isakson, someone who senator coons and i have a tremendous not just respect for, but love for, and senator tester partnered together and showed that partisan politics needs to be always subordinate to what's in the best interests of this country. that is a spirit that reaffirms my faith in this institution. you are a chairman from another party that often has done the same, and forrm that i want to d my long litany of gratitude with one more time thank you for your stewardship and s your leadersh. it's been an honor in these few months to be a junior member of your committee. thank you, sir. >> thankno you. committee meeting adjourned. [applause] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> tonight c-span's weekly series 1968: america in turmoil, continues with a discussion on women's rights and the national conversation 50 years ago that transformed households and work praises across -- workplaces across the u.s. our guests are debora spa

isakson, a senator from the state of georgia, to perform the duties of the chair. signed: orrin g. hatch, president pro tempore. the presiding officer: under the previous order, the senate stands adjourned until 10:30 a.m. on thursday, until 10:30 a.m. on thursday, >> no legislative work today. they return for legislative business in a week and they will be resuming consideration of the nomination to the fifth circuit court of appeals. you can watch live coverage of the senate when the gavel back in here on c-span2. we return now to the institute discussion on us space policy and satellite technology. >> is that ray glittering spaces so when we talk about ray glittering spectrum it has to do with the conviction and giving out or allocating a resource. we talk about space traffic management and most people thank you think about national security versus private equities and this is an important observation because it's easy in the discourse for all of us to say were talking about ray glittering space but when you begin to classify what you talk about not only do you

he got 11-9 vote because johnny isakson's vote counts if it wasn't the deciding vote, so it was 11-9, and there was one vote -- what would you call that, john? not present. >> present. president trump: present, ok, so 11-9. a terrific thing, but they fail to stop them. now they say, who is next? person, admiral jackson, dr. jackson, a wonderful man, i for? what do you need it as far as experience, the veterans administration, which is approximately 13 million people, it is so big. you could run the biggest hospital system in the world and it is smalltime compared to the veterans administration. nobody has the experience. he is a leader and good man. i told him, you know what, doc? you are too find a person. his son is a top student at annapolis. he is a high-quality person. i said what do you need it for? it will be his decision that he will be making a decision. ,hey failed with mike pompeo and that was a big hit because they thought they could stop him. the democrats have become obstructionists. that is all they are good that. they are not good at anything else. they have bad politi

isakson, someone who senator coons and i have a tremendous not just respect for but love for and senator tester partnered together and showed that partisan politics needs to be always subordinate to what's the best interest of this country. that is a spirit that reaffirms my faith in this institution. you are a chairman from another party that often has done the same and for that i want to end my long litany of gratitude with one more time thanking you for your stewardship and leadership it's been an honor in these few months to be a junior member of your committee. thank you, sir. >> thank you. committee meeting adjourned. . . >>> there are 21 members of the senate judiciary committee and by a vote of 14 to 7 they have approved a measure that would provide protections for special counsels, it would also set requirements and limitations on the removal from office of a special counsel appointed by an attorney general. no word on if or when this measure will come to the senate

craig kaplan noting the statement from johnny isakson on the jackson withdrawal, "i respect his decision and i thank admiral jackson for his service to the country. " jeff bennett of nbc news reporting who might replace jackson, senior white house officials are said to want the a acting secretary want the acting secretarye va acting to serve. thatll continue to watch story for you. phone lines are yours. what do you want to talk about? mark is up first in des moines on the line for republicans. good morning. caller: i would like to say what the democrats are doing to our president is un-american. i hope the republicans will come and vote out the democrats and take them right from the swamp and bury them 6 foot under. host: before you go, there was a special election in arizona and democrats did a lot better than expected. what do you think that means for the fall? we lost the call, bill is in sebastian, florida. for independents. -- line for independents. caller: good morning. i would like to comment on the nominee. he was not qualified, was not that it and it seems -- was not vetted and

that's on chairman isakson's desk. i think johnnie and i both realize that we need some time to find out what the facts are. >> john tester of montana, thanks so much for being with us helping us try to understand what's going on here. it's not easy. >> thank you. >>> all right. a fascinating and welcomed sight outside washington today, the republican congressional baseball team at practice getting ready for the game. you'll remember it was one year ago that a gunman very nearly killed the house majority whip steve scalise, wounded three others at the practice of this team. they are back on the field today. joe johns is there. joe? >> reporter: it's rainy out here, obviously, not a typical or very good day for practice, but this was the first scheduled practice for the republican baseball team and a very unusual atmosphere compared with last year. last year, of course, was the day when it all happened, when we had a shooter come out and gun three people down who were injured, the shooter taking down himself by u.s. cap

there is another little shuffle in the voting because one longtime committee member, senator johnny isakson of georgia, who is down in his home state delivering a eulogy for a dear friend and wasn't present so there was another little last-minute shuffle on the voting how they were going to get to there which happy he to impact later if you want to hear about but the bottom line is he did get out of that committee. host: if there was a general criticism of mr. pompeo from the committee, what would it be? guest: there was a general sense among democrats while he may have been fine enough as the c.i.a. director, he did not represent the values they wanted in a secretary of state. many pointed to his critical comments of gay marriage, some comments he made in the past about muslims. in his senate confirmation hearing just a week earlier, he did not necessarily back away from some of those comments and he also is very hawkish in his foreign policy views and very much has the president's ear. they are very aligned and there was a concern he just might be too quick on the sort of hawkish side of