bush, the massive deportations to central america and that brought the problem to central america. the obama administration also dealt with it, but it was not a central point of its narrative. it has become a central point of the trump administration. become a way in which the trump administration, not just the president but some of his officials like attorney general tosions have equated ms-13 both migration and the latino community. that in thess report, that is really dangerous because the words that we just heard, i understand part of those words not to be true. for, that mainly and foremost, ms-13 has strengthened itself because of loose loopholes in immigration. ms-13 has been strong in some areas of the united states for decades now. membership, and we found that out during these three years of research. a lot of that membership is formed by u.s. citizens. they are not migrants. most of the leadership of ms-13 iques formed anywhere from 10 to 50 members, most of the -- the in the east coast west coast are u.s. born citizens. they did not just come from central america. recen

bush, the massive deportations to central america and that brought the problem to central america. the obama administration also dealt with it, but it was not a central point of its narrative. it has become a central point of the trump administration. become a way in which the trump administration, not just the president but some of his officials like attorney general tosions have equated ms-13 both migration and the latino community. that in thess report, that is really dangerous because the words that we just heard, i understand part of those words not to be true. for, that mainly and foremost, ms-13 has strengthened itself because of loose loopholes in immigration. ms-13 has been strong in some areas of the united states for decades now. membership, and we found that out during these three years of research. a lot of that membership is formed by u.s. citizens. they are not migrants. most of the leadership of ms-13 iques formed anywhere from 10 to 50 members, most of the -- the in the east coast west coast are u.s. born citizens. they did not just come from central america. recen

americ central america. the high in illegal migration was 18 years ago. it is now a fraction of what used to be but the demographic has changed. it's women and children coming from central america. as you point out, we saw a spike in 2014. we did a number of things to deal with it, we have the second lowest number in apprehensions on our southern border in 2015. since 1972 but then the number started to creep up again and so this is a problem that is international in scope. i applaud michael mccaul for his leadership on the ability discussed with you but we've got to address this problem at the root cause. in central america the poverty and violence in central america that motivates women and children to come here in the first place. we started on that in the congress two years ago and i hope congress continues on that road. >> chris: will get to that a little bit later but obviously you are not going to solve the problems quickly, which are pretty systemic in guatemala and honduras and el salvador. >> secre

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they have destabilized central america. you also have all established political elites that are unable to exercise democratic authority. so they have been sequestered by corruption practices in such a way that the citizens are not able to really trust their governments from protecting them. the official figure is about 60,000 gangs. a country of 6 million people. that means 1 in 100 people is a gang member. that means there is a gang member in at least -- in the vicinity of my block. if you include to that extortion, the official figure of extortion amounts to about 6,000 a year. the numbers are far greater than that. el salvador published a report that showed that 60% of small businesses that comprise 90% of all businesses have suffered from extortion. so, you know, the facts are that you live in an ecosystem of organized crime and in a context of fear within the context where you have migrants in the united states who see on a day-to-day basis the news that someone was killed, someone was extorted, that your president is

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when you repatriate someone to south america, central america has to agree to take them back. you put them on planes. it's a very measured process. so the - - in 2008 was put in play to make certain we treat unaccompanied children. in a fair way. >>chris: i understand that. let's look at how the obama administration and you as secretary of homeland security handled this in 2014 when there was also a spike in children, most of them unaccompanied coming across the border. you started jailing entire families. in some cases, not a lot. and some you separated children from their parents. these pictures we are putting up from 2014 show pictures of unaccompanied minors and affected jail situations. as you look back on that, did you handle it so well? >> the images and the reality from 2014, just like 2018, are not pretty. we expanded family detention. we had and then, 40,000 beds for family detention. only 95 of 34,000 equipped to deal with families. so we expanded it. i freely admit it was controversial. we believed it was necessary at the time. i still believe it's necessary to kee

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, you know, take education reform in central america. the investment in education is about $200 per capita per pupil, but it does -- you need to invest at least $10,000 per student. giving the bad concerns -- conditions of education in central america, only 20% of kids actually pass any tests on grammar, math or sciences. the rest doesn't make it. not to mention that in quantity only 60% of kids that finish primary education actually complete secondary education. so it's just the governments themselves do not have the resources to address this problem. so you need the private sector engagement in a substantive way. so there are three ways to work along those lines; a new alliance for prosperity with a focus on human capital, make governments more accountable and engage quite fiercely the private sector. >> thank you. >> do you want to do policy alternatives? >> let's do that, and then you can finish with what happens on sunday. >> okay. [laughter] >> why don't you -- >> well, and i think you have a lot to add on policy alternatives too.

why are so many people from central america coming to the united states? what are theyar fleeing? ri engel of nbc news has a report from his trip to el salvador. >> and political culture wars. white house press secretary sarah sanders is asked to leave a restaurant because she works for president trump. her father, mike huckabee tweets this picture with the caption,n pelosi introduces her campaign committee. is all of this the new normal? joining me for insight and analysis are nbc news capital news correspondentkasie hunt, and erick erick son editor of the resurntent. welcome to sundhe. it's "meet press". >> the longest-running show in television history, this is "meet the press" with chuck todd. >>> good sunday morning. for perhaps the first time in his tesidency donald trump l an issue that was defined by television. not the facts that parents and were separated at the border, that was the administration's policy, what mattered was what happened next. it was the wall to wl parade of desperate parents and the first ladies and the growing number of reps w was the sound of adminis

you heard both senators refer to the issue in central america. nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard engel is back from el salvador, one of the countries where life is so desperate people are willing to risk everything, including child separation to get here. that's next. oh, you brought butch. yeah! (butch growls at man) he's looking at me right now, isn't he? yup. (butch barks at man) butch is like an old soul that just hates my guts. (laughs) (vo) you can never have too many faithful companions. that's why i got a subaru crosstrek. love is out there. find it in a subaru crosstrek. >>> welcome back. as i mentioned earlier, what we are seeing on the border is really a bit of a refugee crisis more than an immigration crisis. people from central america, places like guatemala, honduras and el salvador are coming here to find work in the united states than to escape the life at home. gang violence is so prevalence in honduras and el salvador that according to the united nations, those two countries have the highest homicide rates in the worl

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we started down the road of investing in central america in 2016, $750 million. but those ameounts have been going down. needs to go in the opposite direction. >> i remember when you were at the helm in 2014 and we saw that surge of undocumented my grants that were crossing the border, and there were images then had people questioning the current administration's practices and immigration policies at that time, images like this, children being held in cages at processing centers. and i remember there were military facilities, i visited one of them along the border that had been set up temporarily to house some of the children coming across. how do you think this situation we're seeing right now compares to that? >> i freely admit that some of the things we had to do in 2014 were unpopular in certain quarters. and controversial. we expanded family detention. we actually did the opposite of what is going on now by keeping families together. a lot of people objected to holding families in detention facilities. we had in 2014 only 95 beds out of 34,000 equipped for f

and central america to try to attack the root causes. >> would you like to now conclude? >> yes, i think mexico must ,onsider the mexican immigrants they send back to mexico 585 billion pesos a year. over one billion -- we need to devote over a billion pesos to this program. lot of what wea programs wasting in that just provide for welfare and leads to greater property. >> anything else? >> just one thing. hasry relevant issue with -- which has to do with money laundering. we have not seen transparency by other candidates. announcer: fbi director christopher wray and rod rosenstein testified there is a -- thursday before the house judiciary committee for actions taken by the justice department including the clinton email investigation. watch live today at 9:30 a.m. eastern on c-span3, c-span.org, or listen with the free c-span radio app. >> the c-span buses traveling across the country on our 50 capitals tour. the bus stopped in fairbanks alaska, asking was the most important issue in alaska. >> i believe the most important , why is ouris nation -- i think for a built on

what specifically they're fleeing in central america. because i think people here don't understand the picture they're facing. >> violence basically. actually, the violence that many of them are fleeing in central america is violence perpetrated by gangs that actually started in places like my hometown los angeles. when you hear about ms-13 from president trump or the 18th street gang. in fact, stood here maybe a couple months ago and met families that came here to seek asylum and one of them said they had been terrorized. those are los angeles street gangs where the original members were undocumented immigrants and were deported. those gangs exploded in those countries. it's literally something that was exported from the streets of los angeles down to central america and the violence that's happening down there now is in large part due to gangs that first roamed the streets not of central america but of the city of los angeles. and so it is incorrect to hear the president say or at least the attorney general that those are -- the violen

we need cooperation with central america. we see three countries that are fundamental -- those countries that have sent these people into our country and we also need to have the right legislation that we hope at thundershower neighbor also has when -- talking about refugee immigrants. >> would you like to add to that? >> well, if we improve our legislation and our procedures, we can provide better service but there's one other thing here. a lot of that immigration is associated also with -- it's a link to human trafficking, money laundering and other criminal enterprises. that's why we have to trying the right balance between the images who come here with a willingness and who are not committing any crimes and those who are encouraging criminal activities and many of them are victims. we have to look at each one of those areas separately. candidate lopez obrador. >> i reiterate that we need to have cooperation for development. we can need to agree, to this brood encompassing grandma with the united states, and let me get bac

why they would make that trick from central america for mexico to the u.s. border knowing they could be apprehended, paying thousands of dollars to a coyote ? guest: it is not the best public policy for adults to send their children north. many of those now in centers are unaccompanied children. have a responsibility to adjudicate those situations as quickly as possible. caller isent of the that parents should not have sent their children north unaccompanied. i agree with that. if you are about to be 91, i calculate you may have been born in 1927. happy birthday is you approach your 91st birthday. i hohat i ve the same type of genes that you have. i commend you for your wonderful life. host: bob in tyler. good morning. i have two quick questions. defendtake an oath to the constitution every two years? guest: yes, sir. caller: what is your interpretation of article four, section four regarding our border? we have ahink responsibility to make sure our border is secure. i try to defend all aspects of the american constitution. americanhe constitution is the gre

>> let me take a stab at the central america issue. i came to this conversation because general kelly when he was the head of south com i said we needed a plan for central america. he sat up and said i need you to come to miami. i of course was going to say yes. i spent a year looking at the issue of central america and it led me to understand there was a much larger global problem. that led to this conversation. i think some of the thingshat the obama administration with the republican congress put in place to bend the curve as part of the conversation. i think we need good enter lockers. to the fact you have this situation in graut ma la, honduras and other places where we have this forced migration, i absolutely think the report we did two years ago was a prelude to this report. in the prior report we get into a lot of detail about central america. do you have other thoughts, gail? >> would say one other thing, mark. we did talk a lot about how an individual, community, country responds to this crisis says a lot about who any of us

. >> our interdiction in mexico and columbia caused the rerouting of the drugs through central america and created this horrific environment. i know where you are headed because you have been on this a long time. >> yeah. >> the nation is getting ready for the conversation you want to have because of opioids and heroin. >> right. >> heroin is something you used to see on television. now everybody is within one degree of separation and having a person at risk. >> i want to know what you think. this is a provocative question at smerconish.com. if the drug trade is partly to blame for the migration crisis from central america, should drugs be decriminalizeed? should drugs be decriminalizeed? i spoke with ohio governor, john kasich. welcome back. did the border issue cost republicans control of the house? >> well, i don't know about that, michael. i think that, you know, this one has been very, very difficult. i think people understand this, when you have children who are separated from their family and crying and wailing, this one gets kind of to the heart of things, as to whether there c

and central america to try to attack the root causes. >> thank you. would you like to now conclude? you have 30 seconds. >> yes, i think mexico must consider the mexican immigrants, they send back to mexico 585 billion pesos a year. we need to devote over a billion pesos to this program. we need to change that, however. we need to use a lot of what we have been wasting in programs that just provide for welfare and leads to greater poverty. >> anything else? >> just one thing. we did not talk about a very relevant issue which has to do with money laundering. still have not seen transparency by other candidates. >> friday month the conversation with the chief justice of the united states, john roberts, from the judicial conference of the fourth circuit, live 3:30 p.m. eastern on c-span, announcer: tonight on c-span, christopher wray and rob growth + testifying on the clinton email probe. and debate from the u.s. house on a resolution requiring the justice department to find documents in the rush investigation. later, the american constitution society re

america -- minor from central america have been released into the united states since 2014 at unbelievably great taxpayer expense. nobody knows how much we're paying for this monstrosity that's been created over the years. legislation that nobody has any idea what they're doing. they don't even know what it means. and you have to see this. it's a mile high. child smugglers exploit the loopholes and they gain illegal entry into the united states, putting countless children in danger on the perilous trek to the united states. they come up through mexico, mexico does nothing for us. you hear it here, they do nothing for us. they could stop it. they have very, very strong laws. try staying in mexico for a couple of days, see how long that lasts. [laughter] ok? [applause] they do nothing for us and i see it through nafta. i see with $100 billion-plus that they make on trade through nafta. one of the worst deals ever made by this country. dafter. and we're trying to equalize it and it's not easy but we're getting there. not easy. and we're going to take care of our american farmers and we're goi

braz sill not even in central america. you realize florida is closer to central america than brazil. like there's no issue with immigrants coming from brazil illegally. brazilians done even speak spanish. like brazil is just kind of similar to them. like what does that mean. it's like going to a star trek convention and being like, i've gt a message for chewbacca. but i guess for pence it's close enough. i feel like he give this speech whenever he is around any latinos. he will be at chilis, i have a message straight from my heart. don't risk your lives. like sir, please, my hand is starting to burn, starting to burn, sir. and the way pence delivered that speech was no joke. like he sowfnedded like, you flow this those movies when a villain is showing up on every single tv screen around the world. >> to the people of central america. >> shh, nobody say anything. >> i have a megsage for you. >> don't risk your lives or the lives of your children by trying to come to the yooptded states on a road run by drug smugglers and hu

some of thethat countries within central america can help themselves. and the united states and canada is hoping to build mexico's asylum system. execute is not only a country of origin and transit, is becoming a country of asylum. is not only a country of origin and transit, but it is becoming a country of asylum. people from honduras can find safety in mexico before returning home. it is trying to bring all these different stovepipes together to find a catalyst to build and andngthen society strengthening those organizations and ngos and governments that help. recognizing that most people want to stay safely at home. let's help them do that. the same thing we are seeing in africa and we hope that using these examples have brought some governments along to recognize, on a global angle you are not demanding xyz nz. it is actually a form of burden sharing. this is where the united states plays an important role of being a leader. not only financially but politically. when the u.s. is leading many others follow. the united states has been a historic leade

why they would make that trick from central america for mexico to the u.s. border knowing they could be apprehended, paying thousands of dollars to a coyote ? guest: it is not the best public policy for adults to send their children north. many of those now in centers are unaccompanied children. have a responsibility to adjudicate those situations as quickly as possible. caller isent of the that parents should not have sent their children north unaccompanied. i agree with that. if you are about to be 91, i calculate you may have been born in 1927. happy birthday is you approach your 91st birthday. i hope that i have the same type of genes that you have. i commend you for your wonderful life. host: bob in tyler. good morning. i have two quick questions. defendtake an oath to the constitution every two years? guest: yes, sir. caller: what is your interpretation of article four, section four regarding our border? we have ahink responsibility to make sure our border is secure. i try to defend all aspects of the american constitution. americanhe constitution is t

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and central america to try to attack the root causes. >> thank you. candidate calderon, would you like to now conclude? you have 30 seconds. >> yes, i think mexico must consider the mexican immigrants, they send back to mexico 585 billion pesos a year. so we need to devote over a billion pesos to this program. we need to change that, however. we need to use a lot of what we have been wasting in programs that just provide for welfare and lead to greater poverty. >> anything else? >> just to add one thing. we did not talk about a very relevant issue which has to do with money laundering that has an impact on security. we still have not seen transparency by other candidates. >> saturday, michelle obama talks about her upcoming memoir, reflecting on her time at the white house. obama: people think i am a not exist,ke i do like people like me do not exist, and i know there are so many people in this country, in this world who feel they do not exist because their stories are not told where they think their stories are not worthy of being told. in this count

tonight our chief foreign correspondent richard angle has traveled to central america where he found a grandmother who heard her granddaughter's voice on that tape. now she's waiting on edge for any news of what happened to her. richard has the story from el salvador. >> reporter: tonight, anna enriquez is worrying about the fate of her family. separated and detained in the united states. she says this is her 6-year-old granddaughter heard on audio pleading with u.s. bordent wr 's in the united states. >> translator: i feel helpless, she says. it's hard to hear someone you love suffering. >> reporter: anna's granddaughter alisyn made the dangerous trek up through central america to the united states with her mother, but 16 days ago they were detained while trying to cross the border illegally. why are so many families with children risking everything to leave el salvador? we can't even go out at night, she says. this country is torn apart by gang violence. this neighborhood where this family lives is considered one of the most dangerous. the homicide rate in el salvador is 15 times h

as some one who has spent a lot of time, myself in central america, i know how desperately hard it is for the children there. and the terrible abuses that they endure both at home and in some cases when they come to the united states, that long trek that entire way. we're all really concerned about the well being of children and keeping children with their parents of course is always the ideal. but the truth of the matter is, the homeland security secretary said it right yesterday, of the 12,000 kids in u.s. custody, it's 2,000, not 12,000 but 2,000 of them have been separated from their parents. the rest basically were abandoned. they had no family. lost in the easy scapegoating of donald trump, of course is a bush-era law that got us into the crisis we're seeing at the gore der. -- border. while it's well intentioned, this flawed piece of legislation was designed to curb human trafficking and had a slew of unintended consequences. it was called the wilbur force trafficking victim protection act of 200. -- of 2008. that law doesn't allow the government to immediately deport minors fr

yet, just a few hours ago, president trump threatened to cut off aid to central america and mexico because, quote, they are not sending their best. they are not sending their best. in other words, he would have the policy of the united states be to make the dire conditions in central america even worse, driving even more families to flee their homes in search of assume lum -- asylum. let's be clear. these individuals are fleeing of their own accord. they are not being sent. they are fleeing. their choice is stark. stay and die or live and have -- or leave andav a shot to live. we know that usaid initiatives that support economic development and good governance make a difference. we heard from young people who found hope and safety through these programs. now is not the time so reckless abandon these programs. it's a time to invest in them. the administration claims to be for law and order, but it deals in kay -- it deals in chaos. president trump lies with such frequency and such confidence because he knows that the muddier the waters, the harder is it -- it is for the rays of truth to shi

and in central america, where we have a regional compact. it is another place where we can help -- people want to stay home and we want to help keep them at home in a better and safer life. i mentioned the world bank engagement. there's a large refugee -- offering billions of dollars to host countries, as well as those countries that aren't that poor but are middle income that are taking on a lot of refugees, jordan, lebanon, soon to be colombia, places like bangladesh. there's new concessional financing available there. i think it is important and one of the jobs that i do have is to share. here in the u.s. and the caribbean -- we are also responsible for 24 caribbean countries o of washington.just and how one can really be helpful, a lot of americans, i don't think they appreciate or understand, but the united states continues to be one of the most generous supporters of refugees and of unhcr. it has long been our largest supporter and continues to be. it is still the largest resettlement country in the world and still has a very vibrant a

and central america to our border in california, presenting herself with her six-year-old daughter, asking for asylum because of fear of persecution and death back in her home country. that happened six months ago, and they removed her six-year-old daughter from her custody and flew the girl 2,000 miles to chicago. so the mother remained in san diego. the daughter was in chicago, and that's when we learned about it in my office. we started pursuing it. and after we brought it to the attention of the department of homeland security, they said that that wasn't the policy, and they were going to work on it. they did reunite the mother and child, but it led to this lawsuit, the lawsuit that judge sabraw ruled on last night. mr. president, first, i ask unanimous consent that the opinion of the court in its entirety be entered into the "congressional record" at this point. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. durbin: thaufp. let me read -- thank you very much. let me read some of the words judge sabraw wrote in his conclusion last night about the zero tolerance policy. the unfold

america and places like that, people say welcome back, america. i mean, i used to go there in the previous administrations time and everybody would say what is wrong with america? we are seeing a big difference that i see from a global, economic upturn. steve: because of trump. >> i would say. so because he has removed so many legislative. steve: red tape. >> shackles that were put on this country. now why are starting to see money flow back into this country. see money coming back into the country. brian: real quickly are you worried about trade and what's going on right now because you are international. >> i am. i think he is on the right path. quite honestly. america from what i have seen and heard and read and what you report on all the time i think it should be reciprocal trade. why not? when did you go to a business meeting like i'm going right from here, did you go to a business meeting. when you get up from that table, everybody has got to feel like they got up from the table equal.

>> we need a marshall plan for central america. central america has a wealth of potential. in terms of what is happening in all of latin america, that's the last area of latin america that needs to be stabilized from an economic and political sense. also, we can do minimal steps. the trump administration forgets they shut down opportunity for people to seek asylum in their home countries, so they're now doing the travel up here, and then the administration itself is trying to force them from even crossing the border to seek asylum. there's a lot of other things this admintration could be doing to stem this flow. instead, what they want to do is use human flow of people running away from violence, seeking shelter here, they want to use it as leverage, as hostage to again fulfill this stupid border wall which was supposed to be paid for by mexico. now they're holding thousands of families hostage so the american taxpayer can pay for this mistake. >> want to veer off topic before i let you go on north korea. the president said he may call kim jong-un this weekend. let's listen

forcibly displaced individuals from central america do not want to leave home. who wants to take the risk of going through dangerous gang territories to make it to the u.s. border to be stuck in a backlog for asylum which now houses 700,000 cases backlogs? america is generous, but that is a lot to handle. and recognizing that some of the countries within central america can help themselves. is helping build mexico's asylum system. mexico is not only a country of origin and the transit, but it is a country of asylum, vulnerable from salvador in honduras can find safety before they return home. it is trying to bring these different stovepipes together to the a catalyst to build strengthening of society, and the strengthening of those helpizations, ngo's, that recognizing amongst people who want to stay safely home. that's help them do that as a movement. same routine in africa, and we hope that using these examples have brought some governments along to recognize, on the global angle, you are not demanding x, y, and z, it's actually a form of burden sharing. where

>>> plus, the central issue, why are so many of the migrants coming here from central america? the closer look at the starting point of this border crisis. >>> and jacket flak. the first lady's mystifying fashion statement. >> they could only focus on one thing, jacket. >> it won't like i grabbed it out of the closet by mistake. >> it turns out a lot of people do care. do you? this is "mtp daily," and it is start right now. ♪ >>> good evening i'm chuck todd here in washington. welcome to "mtp daily." we begin tonight with what you might call a lack of leadership. the president instituted a policy that was widely condemned. misled the public about why he instituted it. falsely claimed he couldn't do anything about it. blamds his opponents as he tried to fix it. then he claimed the other side wasn't interested in addressing the issue for political reasons. as he told his side to give up his effort to address the issue for political reasons. today, he continued to demonize the people that his policies target. does any of that get us any closer to actually addressing this country

it's to go to the source of the lem in central america. what has been happening the last five years in the united states isur not a sy crisis. the security on the southwestern border has never been greater. what you have is a humanitarians crn central america that is pushing these people north.ed you o attack the problem -- providing additional financial aid, provide law-enforcement assistance in central america, and workingo with mex secure their southern border to stop the flow before it gets to the u.s. jane: thank you for joining me. >> thank you. jane: in just two days, turkey will go to the polls to choose its next president and parliament. a lot is riding on the vote, including the political future of president erdogan. he brought the ballot forward by more than year and called snap elections in hopes of cementing his position with the beefed-u economic slump, and he faces strong opposition. for more on what is riding on the outcome, i spoke with a fellow at the washington institute. thank you for joining me. why is this election so

haveher words, he would the policy of the united states be to make the dire conditions in central america even worse. driving even more families to flee their homes in search of asylum. let's be clear. these individuals are fleeing up her own accord. they are not being sent. they are fleeing. their choice is stark. -- oran die or live in leave and have a shot to live. we note the usa initiative that support good governance make a real difference to we have heard from young people who found hope and safety through these programs. now is not the time to recklessly abandon these programs. it is a time to invest in them. the administration claims to be for law and order, but it deals in chaos and discord. president trump lies with such frequency and such confidence because he knows that the muddier the waters, the harder it is for the race of truth to shine through. rays oft weekend some life shines through when former first lady laura bush made her voice heard. as she wrote in the washington "our government should not be in the business of warehousing children in converted box stores or maki

if importing a lot of poor people from central america makes your country better, why hasn't it made tijuana better to have thousands of central americans there? >> when is the last time you have gone to tijuana? i'm happy to go with you. we can go next week. they have incredible restaurants. the city is much, much better than it was a couple of decades ago. >> tucker: i grew up next to tijuana. i have been there a lot. hold on. i have been there a lot. >> it's incredible establishments. let's go to tijuana so you can see it's not a horrible place that you just described. >> tucker: i'm not saying it's a horrible place. what i'm saying is there are hundreds of thousands of people in tijuana in legal limbo. mexico doesn't want to let them stay. and my question is why not? if having undocumented immigrants as you describe them in your country makes your country better, then why doesn't mexico give them all mexican citizen tomorrow to let them vote in the upcoming presidential election? real question. >> a couple of things. first of all, since donald trump became president mexico deport