and north korea continued in new york the participants included robert cullen an expert on north korea's nuclear program his visit to the country off in. november two thousand and ten are secured her first year john morris and me they took us to young ground they walked us into this facility which we were not really expect we thought maybe we would see a few centrifuges i don't know how many ten one hundred where they're small and we would say oh yeah but it's really impressive. instead they took it took us into this building. took us up to the viewing window and there are two hours in centrifuge. they let us in our jaws dropped and we were sort of speechless as we tried to come. years and then they were steps out of their cars they didn't want to see them. too much point worse somebody won. and then the situation become more common. kim jong il died in december twenty seventh he was succeeded by his son kim jong il and many western experts dowsett whether the inexperienced young man would be up to the job. kim soon launched the first in a series of purchase in twenty fifteen he had his

north korea summit. republicans, (202) 748-8001, democrats (202) 748-8000, independents (202) 748-8002. your calls until 9:00 as we continue to show you some of the images of that historic su mmit. we are also showing you the front pages from around the world. english language newspaper out of singapore, heading into the summit yesterday. their headline, "trump upbeat ahead of today's high-stakes ." mit with kim "donald andline, show." to the front page this morning of the calgary sun, "the best buds." president trump find a new friend and north korea. and from the english language newspaper out of dubai, "world history." that was there a newspaper going into the summit yesterday. nelson is up first and this open phones segment. tuscaloosa, alabama, line for democrats. sir.er: yes my grandfather was in world war ii -- my grandfather was in world war i, my oldest sister has five children in the vietnam war, four sons and one daughter. something, a lot of my european brothers and sisters in this country ar

president and the leader of north korea. it was a welcome improvement to see the two of them having a dialogue rather than enging in name calling and saber rattling. certainly, americans feel better about talking than name calling and threats of war, which had characterized the relationship up until now. though we are all rooting for diplomacy to succeed, we must be clear-eyed about what a diplomatic success with north korea looks like. a diplomatic success would be the complete, verifiable, irreversible denuclearization of the korean peninsula. nothing less. and why do we say that? it's not to make any political points. but a nuclear north korea with icbm's probably presents a greater danger to the united states and the safety and well-being of our country than any other in the world. so it's imperative that we actually get action here, not just photo ops. previous negotiations have sought the same goal with good reason. and in 1994 and 2005, those negotiations yielded agreements that were in fact much more rigorous than th

-north korea of 1994 halted plutonium production by north korea for eight years. it looks like the agreement in 2005 with president george bush. are there going to be real actionable steps -- that is the measure of success. i'm concerned about the lack of specificity in the communique. it is understandable after meeting lasting only a few hours, it is not going to lay out all details. it is not clear yet what denuclearization entails. it is not ear whether they agree on the pacing and sequence we cannot say, mission accomplished, yet. there is a long way to go and a good start. host: what are some of those definitions of denuclearization that may be at odds? guest: the united states has made it clear in a number of statemts that we consider theclearization to be removal of all nuclear weapons of the stockpiles of material, nuclear test site and a permanent end to nuclear testing, this man filling the reactors and facilities used, and a commitment to work with the united states to make sure at the scientists involved are not using their expertise in the future. the

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part of his administration and a credible negotiation process with north korea because north korea made the ready clear that they have some red line so they are not going to cross in any way so i think that for trump will be extremely difficult to strike a balance between achieving some results with north korea and satisfy their work part of his that means for now i heard you say before that the united states cannot really afford a military option in north korea and this is exactly what mr bolton has advocated as he always does eat you just mentioned that this striking the balance between you know the rational in the rational part of the. administration would be a challenge but i wonder if you are perhaps overestimating. the reliance of the said ministration on the careful eye malices and the capital weighing of all of its options. yeah i mean i don't think that the military option is an option and it's never been a real option i think that when trump started with his inflammatory rhetoric last year i think that it was mainly to try to play the card of the madman like richard nixon trie

presidents and north korean leaders are the north korean officials and we've seen agreements reached in the korean war but they have fallen apart through many different reasons soon after so there is a sense among south koreans that they have seen all this before they don't trust what they see in pyongyang they don't trust the regime there although according to some pretty unscientific surveys that have been done in south korea in recent months the popularity of kim jong un in south korea is fairly high at the moment so cautious optimism have seen all this before of course they hope that this time is going to be different but when we talk about denuclearization of course that means the dismantlement of the north korean nuclear weapon system of its nuclear weapons manufacturing abilities but it also has an implication one would imagine on the u.s. troops that are based here in south korea there are some thirty thousand u.s. soldiers that are based in south korea as part of that so-called nuclear that the u.s. has over south korea as a way of protecting it from any attack from north ko

and north korea summit was about to be collapsed however he called north korea. kim jong un right away and he talked with condolence and he negotiated with him and he lead it north korea and us to finally meet together so whether or not this will last long or it will just be a show as some people have argued i think that the fact that u.s. and north korea has met on the negotiation table has a big meaning in the historical perspective and for this i get i believe the president when jane made a fake rule so as i'm sure we've read with the situation has moved forward that there that everybody is say there are problems with the telling to you blamed them especially with the details of this agreement what's missing. it isn't missing the verification actually concrete is on the steps and the plan for this and but it is clear for this meeting it was not nobody expected really that they could within the time they had have such a result. we need now. the legal structure in which we integrate this peace process and this legal structure has to consider both sides not only

relationship with north korea. i think six months ago, really eight or nine months ago, there was the real idea that possible military action wasn't impossible. now it seems virtually impossible. >> i agree with you. we are in a better place. i mean, let's face it, we are in a better place military option for me is unthinkable that it would be exercised now. but remember why we got into trouble with north korea in the first place. it was about their nuclear weapons threatening us. it's about icbm capability to reach the united states. that has not materially changed. and so, what i am deeply worried is by not doing anything about what's threatening us or the region in the first place which seems to be walking into what north korea wants. >> the president seems to be putting a lot of faith in kim jong-un. he says he believes kim will stand by his promises, whatever those promises are. we don't know what the specifics are. he says kim will stand by them. do you think the president is right in putting so much faith in

it's now between the north koreans and the south koreans, the north koreans and china. that's the way it's been for most of history. that's the way it's returned. >> ian bremer, founder of the political risk consultancy, appreciate having you here. it is remarkable the transformation he's talking about there. we talked about this at the very beginning of our broadcast tonight that before -- not only before this year, b before this spring, kim jong-un, the dictator of north korea, had never, ever met with the head of another country. now because of this opening that the american president has given him, he's met with the leader of south korea. he's met with the leader of china twice. he's met with the prime minister of singapore. he's now tonight meeting currently with the president of the united states. we expect that the president of russia is going to be next. what has he done to achieve. >> very notably he's left his country, which is very rare. >> this is the fuirst time he's done that as head of country. what has he done to earn that sort of international acceptanc

if we acknowledge north korea at the same level, then north korea forward the denuclearization process, and in this sense, i found that kim jong-un was quite genuine in his way during the last two summits, and what i find from him is that he is eager for peace in the korean peninsula. denuclearize nuclear weapons if his regime is protected and if north korean security can be protected, so in verysense, i find him positive toward the peace regime and the korean peninsula and also in the global society, and also, he is quite eager to denuclearize the nuclear weapons in north korea. problem infound a many media and public opinions. they only put conditions for denuclearization. they only focus on denuclearization of north korea. why don't they put any conditions for u.s. or the other countries not to intervene with the regime or not to propagate them any more? should viewpoints actually change in order for this summit or in order for this agreement to last long. there are so many suspicions purpose,m jong-un's which he never said about, then this agreement will not last long, of course, a

troops on sanctions against north korea remain in place. that's true president trump said during this press conference that sanctions remain in place however he also added that he would like to lift these sanctions when he see that there is really progress being made and he also added that actually he would like to throw american troops from south korea because it is very expensive and he is the president is someone who really is against us and balls and whether we are talking about iraq afghanistan on our places at the same time he said during this press conference that there is now no time to talk about the possible withdrawal of for you ass troops in south korea. wonderful moment in singapore thank you. in south korea meanwhile president moon j a n that's he will write a new history with his country's northern neighbor and is full of praise for north korean leader kim jong un's decision to go ahead with the summit in singapore and the statements released by his office he said leaving dr of war and conflict behind we will write a new chap

if we acknowledge north korea at the same level, then north korea forward the denuclearization process, and in this sense, i found that kim jong-un was quite genuine in his way during the last two summits, and what i find from him is that he is eager for peace in the korean peninsula. denuclearize nuclear weapons if his regime is protected and if north korean security can be protected, so in verysense, i find him positive toward the peace regime and the korean peninsula and also in the global society, and also, he is quite eager to denuclearize the nuclear weapons in north korea.. problem infound a many media and public opinions. they only put conditions for denuclearization. they only focus on denuclearization of north korea. why don't they put any conditions for u.s. or the other countries not to intervene with the regime or not to propagate them any more? should viewpoints actually change in order for this summit or in order for this agreement to last long. there are so many suspicions purpose,m jong-un's which he never said about, then this agreement will not last long, of course,

and north korea continued in new york the participants included robert cullen an expert on north korea's nuclear program who's visited the country often. remember two thousand and. six character should go first to john morris and me they took us to young ground they walked us into this facility which. we were not really expect we thought maybe we would see a few centrifuges i don't know how many ten one hundred whatever just small and we would say oh yeah it's really impressive no instead they took he took us into this building. took us up to the viewing room and there are two thousand centrifuges. they let us in our jaws dropped and we were sort of speechless as we tried to kind of centrifuges and then they were steps out of there because they didn't want us to see them. too much point worse somebody wanted us. and that this and that the situation had become more common and we're going. to meet kim jong il died in december twenty seventh he was succeeded by his son kim jong il and many western experts said whether the inexperienced young man would be up to the job. kim soon launched the

north korea. the president is about to have a summit in north korea, he moved considerable military assets off the peninsula of korea. several ships, submarines, and has put enormous pressure on korea as well as economic pressure. how do you think he's doing so far with respect to north korea? >> i think it's been great. kind of reminds me when reagan came in. we had the cold war, but throughout the 70s it was detente, all the smart people in washington, communism is here to stay and reagan is like no, we win, they lose, that's my policy. he upped the rhetoric. he was deploying missiles into europe with allies. all the people in washington thought the guy was nuts, this is crazy and look what ended up happening. eventually gorbachev realized he wasn't going to be able to beat the united states and that led to the fall of the berlin wall and the expiration of the soviet union. now north korea isn't as big a problem as the soviet union was in the cold war, but i think it's similar in the sense the l

controlled the north the us controlled the south in one nine hundred fifty the north invaded the south starting a three year war that ended with the cease fire but no formal resolution so this means technically that these countries are still at war the north became increasingly isolated from the rest of the world dropping food production production that is in imports led to a famine in the one nine hundred ninety s. that killed hundreds of thousands of people despite peace initiatives in the two thousand and two young and pushed on with its plans for militarization and antagonize its southern neighbor with its first nuclear test in two thousand and six as collating tension led to the shutdown of the case on industrial park that was a joint enterprise between the north and the south in two thousand and sixteen so we have been able to isolate the main points and the document that was signed by donald trump and kim jong il and so this is what we've been able to glean even though they have not officially released this documents so the two leaders signed this document that is described as c

and north korea together. receptiventext, a south korean president -- which often don't have and had not had . things are moving forward. not for the first time because this happened in the 1990's, also been engager with north korea, but moon jae-in is very experienced. he was chief of staff to another progressive president. he knows what he is doing. the primaryhat is reason that the u.s. is now in an engagement process with north korea. what every north korean nose iss a family member killed during the korean war and usually by incendiary bombing the u.s. --ried out with no limits basically, the apparatus of firebombing that was used to l gevean and japanese cities duringng world war ii was redirected to north korea -- which h had 15 or 1 16 c citiesf modest size. they were all just wiped off the face of the earth. official u.s. air force statistics show the percentage sometimesstruction, when under percent to north korean cities, was higher on average than the percentage of destruction in germany and japan

he did not have a meeting with north korea. at this point some of the concessions donald trump has gotten, north korea agreed to halt nuclear and missile tests as part of the talks prior to this meeting today, we will see what happens moving forward, details definitely matter. thank you for joining us. the time is 20 minutes until the top of the hour. the road to singapore has been months in the making, sarah sanders taking us along for the ride. we will show you the press secretary's firsthand account as live coverage of the historic summit continues up next. ♪ you've ever met. there's a lot of innovation that goes into making our thinnest longest lasting blades on the market. precision machinery and high quality materials from around the world. nobody else even comes close. it's about delivering a more comfortable shave, every time. invented in boston. made and sold around the world. order now at gilletteondemand.com. gillette, the best a man can get. they have businesses to run they have passions to pursue how do they avoi

north korea. she's an expert on what is going on with the chinese economy. this is what it looks like pre-markets. han sang up, futures are up. coming up, discussing the north korean issues and what we have on the agenda in china, as well. that and more. this is bloomberg. ♪ ♪ >> >> live from singapore where the trump kim summit will happen tomorrow. not a.m. local time. this is the historic silent. the sitting u.s. president is meeting with a north korean leader. now, trump has expressed optimism of the great success. he decided he would know within the first minute whether or not kim would be interested in denuclearization. there's a huge gap in denuclearization. completewanting universe -- give authorization ofkorea -- denuclearization korea. north korea was it safety guaranteed. a lot going on. one of the biggest weekarket wise. here is david inglis. >> you have a massive auction coming out of the treasury. have a look at the open across china's markets right now. a little bit higher on th

they didn't get deeply involved in this north koreans have been able to hit in north korea and south koand japan. as you say, the abductees, a huge political issue in japan, it's onef the reasons you saw abe come too see president trump last week, to remind him that his issues have to be represented as well. >> in fact, there are only 12 abductees that we know about. that's a rather small number for the obsession that japan has with this. i recall quickly how japan's obsession with this is why the meeting didn't go right in 2003. nuclearization of this area, that's what the prime minister of singapore voiced to me his concern, south korea, japan may be forced to go nuclear, if the united states decides to pull its forces and its umbrella back. that would be a shift in the balance of power, the balance of forces and you have what may may not lap in the middle east. the idea of trying -- deciding whether to remove u.s. forces has so many sort of -- it's got to be a concern for allies, south korea and japan, given -- there you see kim jong-un's motorcade, you can see some -- i believe t

we don't know what's under the ground in north korea. to give an example when i was in the state department, i went to north korea to inspect an underground site >> let's go straight to this we see president trump approaching the podium >> we're getting ready to go back had a tremendous 24 hours. we've had a tremendous three months because this has been going on for quite a while. that was a tape we gave to chairman kim and his people, his representa it captures a lot. captures what could be done. that's a great place, has the potential to be an incredible place between south korea and china. tremendous potential i think he understands that. he wants do what's right it's my honor today to address the people of the world following this very historic summit with chairman kim jong-un of north korea spent very intensive hours together, and i think most of you have gotten the signed document or you will shortly it's comprehensive it will happen i stand before you as an emissary of the american people who deliver a message of hope and vision a

we have war in north korea and north korea weapons. looking at it from a journalist, can you just avoid to keep it unstable because it allows them to rebuild in korea and prevent north korea or south korea which can be a power house in the united states. so a meeting between the korean officials and russia. so not work out that this will be taking in themselves. and it is presented to trump is already something that we're already doing. and trump is going to go with it just like in atlantic city. >> all right. so that's plan e for expelling the u.s. next one, please. >> thank you for coming. this is a good quality compensation care. i feel that this is the first of many sum mitts to come. summits to come. it's so complicated, it's going to take a long time. there has to be a lot more. i was talking to nuclear experts, so-called experts. i don't know if they are but they're real knowledgeable people. they were saying it will probably take ten years -- ten years or even longer as he mentioned. that's a lot of years. there's a step to fol

to first find his motifs in the north. the similarities are often striking although those portrayed sometimes disagree. human and. start off in no i was surprised that the girl on the right wasn't particularly enthusiastic about the north korean counterpart she just said so that's what she looks like ok one of them and i'd expected her to say something like oh i'm with the same. major but with totally different of the she just didn't go than to. to book. in this case. the project started in two thousand and nine as talks on north korea's nuclear program were collapsing. last year south korea elected a liberal president who has brought new momentum to relations between north and south korea. many see this as a turning point. so they must have gone a bit confused by all the momentous changes underway you know consider to model the meisner and was able to do this project because the two countries are so different but the good to go kind of if they grow closer my idea wouldn't work as well the book to be honest i'm glad i mana

the one what is at accomplish for north korea? >> lee: is important for north korea. they haven't liked the fact that this has been going on just south of their country. now while we would call it not provocative, the north koreans perceived as provocative. >> harris: two people off. >> jessica: is in the problem that he was the rhetoric of the north koreans calling at war games other military exercises with long-standing allies. it's not a game and not something we do all over the world. nothing the president of the united states has ever said that it was a war game. not what i read. >> lee: what i would say. >> harris: what is it accomplish for kim jong un? >> lee: part of his process when he has a mission and working together, we are war gaming out scenarios of if the north koreans were to attack south korea, this is how we would. over the course of the year, we do many different types of exercises with the south korean south koreans. let's say we decide to pause on august and we are still going to work together, still be prepared for anything, it doesn't mean that

and north korea. we're the big guys with nuclear weapons, not south korea, not japan, not china, even they're main benefa krr arkabenefacto r. so it's already a win for kim jong-un, but if he tries to skate, it's to be good for him. >> you've had a dialogue with cnn north korea officials, you've worked to bring americans home from north korea. has anyone from the trump administration called and you asked for your thoughts in advance of this historic summit? >> well, yeah, i've had a conversation with secretary pompeo, a good conversation where he was listening. in the past they hadn't done that. and i think this is very important, that the president has had too many messengers on north korea, the national security adviser, the vice president talking about libya where gadhafi was annihilated. that's not a good message to send to kim jong-un, so i think one messenger, who has met with kim jong-un twice, who opened the channel with the north koreans, who has some diplomatic experience. what i hope we'll

and china for north korea's far going forward. >> right after the news of the north korea-u.s. summit, there was serious concern in beijing worrying about china being sidelined, being marginalized and losing control. i think that -- we even heard wide concern from chinese experts in extreme cases -- there was a chance that when the u.s. and north korea might make some deal in which they collude together against china. because china knows for a long time that north ren't really like china. if conditions were right, they would be more than happy to establish a close relationship with washington. north korea wants to play this role. many conservative chinese always believe the u.s. doesn't really worrabout north korean nuclear threat. the u.s. knows very well north korean nuclear weapons are simply for survival. north korea would never use nuclear weapons without being seriously provoked and invading invaded. therefore, the u.s. has to begin using north korean nuclear threat as an accused to strengthen -- given the deep chinese disrupt toward the united states, there was extreme c

to the north korea and ask for the future policies on north korea includes the us north korea summit meeting, we have details for aligning our position. as i have already mentioned, japan and the united states are always together but japan and the united states will be in full alignment for the historic us north korean summit meeting in singapore. >> thank you very much maximum pressure is absolutely ineffective. we don't use the term anymore because we're going into a friendly negotiation perhaps after negotiation, i will be using it again . you know how well we will do with the negotiation. you heard me say we are going to use maximum pressure. we knowthe negotiation did not do well . there's no reason to say. we in the meantime agreed on sanctions. have a list of over 300 massive in some cases sanctions to put on north korea and i've decided to hold that until we can make a deal because i really believe there is the potential to make a deal and i don't think it's nice knowing in under those circumstances but yes, the campaign hasn't changed. china has continued to hold the border.

korea i think most people who follow north korea don't think that north korea will in fact denuclearize the question is, is there some progress that the united states can make to stop, slow, reverse parts of their nuclear program and it appears he is going to get that shot in june or perhaps sometimes shortly after that >> it really is stunning, tony, as we talk about our top story is trade, and how angry some of our closest and best allies are at us, canada, mexico, the eu, japan, south korea -- the list goes on. and now we are about to witness a meeting, a real diplomatic achievement -- >> yeah. >> -- between a high-ranking north korean official, one of our oldest and worst enemies. >> yeah, look it's good. i think everyone is hoping for success. i think john is probably right, though, if there is success it's going to be iterative. and as you mentioned there is lower expectations that's a little bit unusual for this president he seems to tend to elevate expectations sometimes but i think that's the right way to proceed in this there is a lot of history with north korea disappointing

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is north korea. it's a country so impoverished, so backward that it's sometimes seems to be from another century. the economy of south korea is 36 times larger than that of the north yet somehow the north korean leader now commands the center of the world's stage. this is the story of kim jong-un, his past, his present and how has managed to bring an american president to his doorstep. ♪ december 28th, 2011. kim jong-un had just inherited the cruelest, most repressive dictatorship on earth. his father kim jong-il was dead from a heart attack. in icy pyongyang, tens of thousands lined the streets. for many mourners, it was a chance to catch a glimpse of their new leader. >> people believed he's too young. he's too inexperienced. >> there were real fears that kim jong-un still in his 20s was not up to the job. >> he looked like a boy. there he is sobbing over his father's casket. >> some doubted that he could ever command the kind of cult-like worship his grandfather and his father inspired. a reacti

north korea summit as a step towards a comprehensive resolution of the issues surrounding north korea into. today's summit. between the two groups stepped. in dialogue the only way forward in this case towards lasting peace on the korean peninsula and beyond this is going to very big day in terms of the world there hasn't been any concrete commitments or even specific commitments or action or a timetable or any sequence from the north koreans for to maybe a lot of people are saying we're going to store it even my enemies are calling it historic and you know the fact is that we've done something that's very unique. they promised a historic deal for the agents and u.s. president donald trump and north korea's kim jong un were all smiles and compliments for the cameras in singapore as they signed a joint statement committing to a more peaceful future between historic foes but who left with the upper hand and will they really follow through on promises game. major concession from the outset promising to halt joint military exercises with south korea a decision that caught his ally by surp

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huge win for the north. a big win for "the cheth the ch. >> great to talk to you. >> thanks for having me. >>> "new day" continues right now. >> donald trump fell for the kim family playbook. they front in all the rewards and delay on the concessions. >> we're in a much better place. we're on the diplomatic path. that is the only real solution. >> we will be stopping the war games. we will save a tremendous amount of money. plus, i think

north korea tack against north korea has the possibility of escalating into a nuclear option that's the difference between today and one thousand nine hundred . we are prepared to take more drastic actions in ninety four there were prepared today and short nuclear weapons do work as a deterrent they were for the united states as a deterrent but they also work for north korea that in turn and that's exactly what the north korean leadership knows and that's exactly why they built the nuclear arsenal to deter the united states from taking military action against there is in my judgment no military option against north korea today. into orbit while his fans watch from the earth the truth is that if a new young oak is president if i did not get to fight what makes. alexander a guest is heading back to the i assess after two years of intense preparation what's the german astronauts mission and what challenges does he face. today. thirteen w. . we make up for but we watch as a officer that found out that if we are the civil service or. the want to shape the continent's future shifts should be

this is the highest-ranking north korean who's been allowed to visit north korea in 20 years. the immediate former head of the north korean intelligence service who in fact built that service. are you sure this is definitely the one guy you who want to let in? are you sure there's no particular risk about him in particular coming over here? i mean, technically there is the matter of him being sanctioned multiple times personally by the u.s. government. legally he's not even technically allowed to set foot in this country. but they was. eating filet mignon and vanilla ice cream we're told with mike pompeo at some new york restaurant last night. and then this afternoon we got this note. "kim yong chol will meet briefly with potus in the oval." what? that news moved at about 1:00 this afternoon. and then infrastructure he did show up. and it was not a brief meeting with the president in the oval office. it was nearly two hours. and you know, from a distance without captions on what you're looking at here, he's this quiet-seeming older gentleman. sort of a short guy compared to ou

north korea. kim il sung was forced to find new sources of foreign aid to help him revive the country's stagnant economy. and ninety ninety two came from states and states said you must reconcile yourself with your commitments to the international. going to. be made pursuing. your history between our frustration treaty which. soviets insisted before giving you where you need your assistance but you do so so this is. the root of the problem they are drawing the train you're pretty except safeguards and of course it's a sequence. ultimately except inspections and inspections turn up an inconsistency in their. hunts flix director general of the international atomic energy agency visited the young young nuclear facility in may nine hundred ninety two. north korea played a game of cat and mouse with international inspectors and this went on for to hear this. on some days they would allow the inspectors access to sensitive sites on others they threatened to expel them. later blix admission that he had l

it allows those north koreans to launch north korean cyberattacks from other geographic locations. which is helpful in terms of avoiding accountability. but it also lets those north korean de facto spies, it lets them learn about international innovations in the cyber innovations in the cyber war field and it turns out when they compete around the world they are as good as anyone or better. in 2015 at a global hacking competition that's called code chef, 7,600 teams competing from all over the world. at code chef 2015 north korean teams came in first, second, and third place out of more than 7,000 teams competing worldwide. that's what kim yong chol built. so for people who follow this stuff closely, particularly national security and in foreign policy who have watched north korea not just for its nuclear program but have watched north korea in this very short period of time turn into this global cyberwar, cyberespionage powerhouse it was a remarkable and very specific thing when it was announced that north korea would be sending somebody to the u.s. to talk to the trump administra

what the north koreans wanted was propaganda. they wanted to humiliate the united states, the kim family, which was in charge then as now could demonstrate to the people how strong they were. they would sign confessions saying they were so sorry they had done this. the american government had sent them on this terrible mission they never wanted. to go. they were apologizing to the korean people and they were so impressed what they had seen in north korea. the first couple weeks while the men are being beaten into these confessions it's pretty brutal. after that they are locked in a prison camp. things become a mundane daily life in a north korean prison camp. still absolutely horrible but not that bad. there's another wave of beatings towards the end that the men say is the most brutal, horrible experience any could have imagined. they are released in december right before christmas but in a way the scars always say because the navy drums them out of the service. they're given very little, in some cases no medical treatment, psyc

and north korea continued in the usual the got just in this included robert cullen an expert on north korea's nuclear program he's visited the country often. remember two thousand and ten our seeker professor john morris and me they took us the younger one they walked us into this facility which we were not really expecting we thought maybe we would see a few centrifuges i don't know how many ten one hundred whatever just small and we would say oh yeah it's really impressive. instead they took it took us into this building. took us up to the viewing room and there are two thousand centrifuges. they let us in our jaws dropped and we were sort of speechless as we tried to come through centrifuges and then they were steps out of there because they didn't want us to see them we think too much point worse somebody wanted us now after they had done and that this and that the situation had become more complicated and we're going. to meet kim jong il died in december twentieth levon he was succeeded by his son kim jong il and many western experts dowsett whether the inexperienced young man wo

and north korea signed and ratified this. perhaps a test ban treaty i think that's a really crucial step and they also have to avoid legitimizing nuclear weapons one of the dangers to see with today's summit was really that it kind of the gym isis can really move us a nuclear armed you know leader and that's a pretty dangerous sign to show that nuclear weapons equals power and for states they do forgive me for our involvement forgive me for interrupting but we have an example the whole point of debate diplomacy is dealing with what is happening on the ground now so north korea has nuclear weapons the plan is to denuclearize i accept what you say about the difference in interpretation but that's just the facts of life the north has nuclear weapons this is a step along the road to ridding them of those. now of course but we don't must not equate this with christine and that is a it's a good thing these so weapons of mass destruction inhumane illegal would violate the laws of war they're talking about mass murdering civilians wi

the united states and north korea have been holding direct talks in preparation for a summit and north korea has confirmed to us its willingness to denuclearize. a comprehensive whole of government effort in support of president trump's upcoming summit is underway. white house and state department led advance teams are finalizing with logistical preparations and will remain in place in singapore until the summit begins. the president is getting daily briefings from his national security team. the fact that our two leaders are coming to the table shows that the two sides are very serious. the diplomatic model we use today is different from past efforts. our efforts give us hope that we can find real success where past efforts have fallen short. president trump is hopeful, but he's also going into the summit with his eyes wide open. we've seen how many inadequate agreements have been struck in the past. you can be sure that president trump will not stand for a bad deal. the united states has been clear time and time again. the complete verifiable and irreversible denuclearization of the

d north korea. there folks in the region who it means a day-to-day difference in their lives based on what ultimately happens. >> sure. i mean, e.g. individual nation -- each individual nation has their own china obviously doesn't want to see north korea collapse and see refugees go across the border in any way, shape, or form. war in this region would likely mean that. ey also our neighbors. japan has issues with hostages and remains in north korea. they have obviously the nuclear threat they face. they have missiles go over there island of japan. south korea is dealing with the questions of whether to be reunified what that means, what it looks like. secretary pompeo was going to make the rounds in a shuttle diplomacy effort in the region to try to calm the nerves and perhaps set up other meetings that include multiple partners at the table. >> shannon: bret baier, we don't know when you are sleeping but thank you for staying up late. early there. see you for "special report." joining me now for m

and north korea. including a preview of the presidents planned meeting with the north korean leader, kim jong-un next week. this took place at the heritage foundation in washington. >> welcome. first an admin thing if you have a phone turned off or turn it to vibrate. the event today is the u.s. and north korea summit that was canceled or postponed so i guess we got it right. all they over the weekend one of the panelists tongue-tied said now that trump officially said we are back on, should we change the title? can we said well, it will probably change two or three times before the event or our event even. but actually, there's a bit of a story behind the event. when i lined up the six panelists, the first three and that we have a second panel focused particularly on japan. i had not got around to sending the notification flyer. i came in one morning and i said, i'm going to do nothing else this morning but get the flyer out. just the slum it and was going to happen in one of the implications. and i

and north korea. well certainly japan is a lot at stake in this process and they're very concerned about the danger to their territory with north korean nuclear weapons and they there was a feeling in japan that the country had been sidelined in these talks whereas there were talks between north and south korea in april and then between the u.s. and north korea this week in japan had really been worked out so it was i think quite definitely smart of company to discuss this immediately with the japanese government and for the three governments to issue statements together one of the things that brought up which is really a concern of japan and is dealing with issues of the past including the issue of dirty as it is japanese citizens taken by north korea in the past which has been very much a concern of the japanese public and something that the japanese government has a high priority on in moving toward normal relations between japan and north korea let me widen this out just very slightly one country

there was one in 1992 between north korea and south korea in which north korea agreed not to test, manufacture, produce, receive, possess, store, deploy or use nuclear weapons. dollar lot of specifics there. they also agreed to mutual inspections. there is nothing like that in this agreement so really we wait for president trump too flesh out why he thinks this is comprehensive but look undoubtedly it's a historic summit. it's the beginning of a process. we shouldn't be too skeptical because for north korea is a win, they've been treated as equals, same number of flags, same number of officials. this will go down very, very well in pyongyang. >> i think it's hard not to be too skeptical when you're dealing with a country like north korea and the history we have with them. >> absolutely. not just the u.s. but others. >> bill, we'll ask you to stick around. o bring in ambassador david adelman. let me get your perspective if i may. this is an agreement that is playing out for the domestic au audiences of both sides. we expect the president to come back. he's talked to rallies of his supporters wh

wants north korea's denuclearization north korea wants us curity guarantees commitments that have been promised and burnett done before trump is confident that this time will be different but its past efforts have shown it's a long way between a handshake and peace. alexandra how is the singapore meeting likely to go down with the us photos we have to remember that there are some very pivotal midterms coming up mid-term elections coming up later this year in the us how does this make president trump luck. yeah and we have to keep in mind that there were many experts that they were very skeptical at how the of this summit and political opponents were criticizing you asked president for holding this meeting in the first place or being ready for having we needs to have this summit without having guards and the concessions from the north korean regime so there was a lot of criticism going on the in the you asked i think that we will see a lot of you know people applauding the u.s. president if this summit is indeed going to be a success or if the president can claim it's to be successful h

when mao tse-tung was looking at how north korea and the north koreans were developing and they were going to the old stalinist ways. they were abandoning marxism, leninism. it was the cult of personality. i know victor hasritten about this, as has gordon, as have you come at the cult of personality. to some extent with this young man, his grandson. we can't look away from that dynamic either. >> there is site gigantic statue in north korea of kim il son. when they put it up, it was plated in gold on the chinese government said we are a communist regime. who should be plating idols in gold. north korea is a function of the personality cult in their literature, they attacked the idea that a personality cult is a bad idea because in their perspective it's onlyhe leader who bestows political life onto the population. it gives kim jong un some leeway in the fact that since the leaders, the ideas are law, he's free to contradict him self and everyone will applaud him. new play that clip earlier of ben rhodes, if you can't pronounce kim jong un when correctly, maybe you shouldn't be flappi

north korea. the un did a big report on human rights couple of years ago and the north koreans reacted sharply to that and the argument from the doves is this is something we have to hold for the future, get the ball rolling and bring it up maybe in the future. i'm hopeful. this is why there is so much anxiety with north korea, it isn't your run of the mill dictatorship, it is 0rwellian, like 1984, there will be lots of pressure. . . 1984, there will be lots of pressure... if this keeps going and it becomes a major long—running dialogue between the us and north korea, there will be pressure from the human rights communities and others to get the north koreans to be changed and less horrific to their own people before we normalised with them. if we have normalised with them. if we have normal relations with them then they need to be a normal state, which it isn't now. very quickly, briefly, i wa nt to isn't now. very quickly, briefly, i want to break down the language, the doves and the hawks, ta

is to engage with north korea, to bring north korea back into the international community to promote communication between north korea and the outside world. to address that north korea paranoia, the best way is to start a good relationship between north korea and the united states. fundamentally transform the relationship. in that regard, the first point in this joint statement is that both countries are committed to a new relationship. i think that is important in the long run. eventually, that will help mitigate their paranoia, gradually addressed north korea insecurity and make north korea less dependent on nuclear weapons in the future. even though he himself might not be aware. >> that is an interesting question and we have seen this reflected a little bit in the recording here about how china has engaged this issue and the narrative is china is increasingly concerned about being left on the sidelines during those u.s.-nortrea responses. does this ki of set up, maybe set up between the u.s. and china for north korea's favor going forward. >> right after the news of the norta-u.