but i will say, omarosa, the omarosa i met on the campaign trail, the omarosa that the american people saw throughout the transition team and at the white house, she was someone who was strong in her defense and adversary for president trump and his agenda for making the country better for people of all denominations, backgrounds, especially the african american community. that's why she was hired to communicate that message. >> but look, karine, quickly and then you, she is still strong in her defense. i don't know if she is any different now than she was before she was hired. >> i mean, look, here is the problem here is that omarosa has known donald trump what, 15 years? they had a mutual beneficial relationship. so he brought her in. they were friends. so he takes a -- he needs to take responsibility for the people he hires. he says he hires the best people. that's it. that's who he represents as the best person. >> i don't think they're friends. i think they used each other. >> true. >> and they used each other. >> they're not friends anymore. he said omarosa, you're fired. >> who

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from the beginning you know omarosa has always been about omarosa. that has never been a secret to us. >> you said in a statement that you were the closest person to her in the white house that you interacted her on a daily basis. what she's done is heartbreaking and in figure rafuriating and t whole bunch of adjectives that i can use. >> everybody knows she's potentially capable of. >> omarosa is an actress and that's what she's doing right now playing a role and she's playing us all. >> did you raise concerns to people in the white house or trump who you worked with or anybody in the trump's family why she's highred. >> here is the thing, omarosa is somebody who has always been at the center of attention and she has been willfully and deceit fully engaging -- the reason why i never said anything because i didn't work with her. i worked at hud. she worked at the white house. >> you did say in your own statement that you work closely with her than anybody else in the white house. >> no, what i said was i was the close closest confidant that she had >

omarosa says she's heard it. but let's just jump off something geoff said when he answered the initial question. there are no honorable people here. omarosa, twhen was announced her book was coming out and she had recordings, obviously, everyone said oh, my, sure. sure she does. no, she doesn't. what does she do? boom. there's the audio of general kelly there played on "meet the press." and shockwaves around the country. but certainly within the white house. >> the fact she'd tape him. >> and then today, she ratchets it up even more by producing another tape, this time a conversation with the president of the united states. you started out by saying "the apprenti apprentice." donald trump, great at "the apprentice." omarosa was a three-time contestant. she brought that mind-set and ethos into the white house. i'm just going to start -- this is a reality show and i'm going to call it the surreal white house of the united states. >> he keeps bringing her back episode after episode. >> kellyanne conway was pressed o

omarosa said she heard a recording. she asked if she can guarantee the president if the president said the n word, sarah sanders said i cannot guarantee anything. then added, i haven't been in every room. so with the book officially out today and a lot of hype from omarosa herself, the question is what is next? and also will anything actually come of this? more ahead on today's extraordinary briefing. we begin with laura ingle on the legal battle with omarosa and the trump campaign, not the white house, be u.t. campaign. tell us about this arbitration deal. >> all of this is going to remain private. when we say private, the arbitration that has been filed from trump's campaign against omarosa. a trump campaign official confirms with fox news, president trump's campaign has filed this arbitration action against the former aide, omarosa manigault newman after she released her new book titled "unhinged" about her time in the white house and this media blitz to talk about it. she released three recordings. one that she made

omarosa has her own credibility issues as well here. is this something substantive that bears pursuit, this allegation from oomarosa? >> the idea there might be a tape out there. i think journalists have been looking into this. it was something that was floated during the campaign. it was floated by somebody who worked on "the apprentice." >> to be clear, we're talking about a tape that records the president using the "n" word. >> what's so interesting about that is the ways in which you had these three african-american women who were on that campaign strategically to defend the president against charges of racism. it's something that omarosa talks about in her book. this idea that how can donald trump be racist because he was so good to omarosa. that was her role in the campaign. she very often defended him against attacks of sexism and racism. now as he's facing those attacks from her, he doesn't necessarily have a lot of people left who can defend him. >> that's one of the faux pas of many african-american people. he treated me nicel

>> omarosa. >> omarosa. >> omarosa. >> do you feel betrayed by omarosa, sir? >> reporter: but do you know who won't betray the president by speaking omarosa's name? >> it wasn't until this individual started to negatively attack. >> reporter: omarosa was on practically every reporter's lips in the white house briefing room. >> make omarosa feel better. >> if you would like to president to stop tweeting about omarosa? >> reporter: even the president uses her name. wacky omarosa. wacky and deranged omarosa. but when sarah sanders was asked about -- >> his attacks on omarosa. >> reporter: she did everything to avoid saying her name. >> this individual with the fact that this person like the author of this book. >> reporter: her favorite formulation for evading the o. word. >> this individual, the lack of individual that this individual has shown. >> reporter: but i guess this individual beats being called. >> low life. she is a low life. >> reporter: sarah sanders finally broke down and said it one time, with respect to omarosa. >> reporter: this individual remin

that was omarosa manigault newman. she expects a counter attack from the white house and believes white house staff was being recorded by the president. >> the whole thing, think about this. james comey taking contemporaneous notes. michael cohn, the president's long-time fixer tapes the president and omarosa worked with him at the a pren dipprent the white house, people within the inner circle taping him. kelly o'donnell, news one now's roland martin and msnbc legal analyst danny cevallos. kelly, to you first. how tricky is this for the white house? when someone leaves, they say something about the president, the white house punches down. in this case she's got tapes. if she has more tapes, how dicey is it for this white house to come out swinging? >> reporter: and, stef, often when people leave the white house they have a lot of concern about what comes next in their career chapter. omarosa manigault newman is a formidable adversary based on the skill set she's brought to bear. willing to tape inside the white house,

omarosa is not going away quietly. she has several television interviews scheduled for today, and we will see what else president trump has to say about all of that. erica? >> abby, appreciate it. thank you. >>> also want to get to this breaking news this morning, a new cnn poll just being released shows two thirds of americans want special counsel robert mueller to wrap up his russia investigation before the november midterm elections. and for the first time, president trump's approval rating is higher than some of his predecessors at this point in their presidency. david chalian joins us with those new numbers. david, good morning. >> good morning, erica. let's look at tofr all approval rating at 42%, disapprove 53%. this is remarkably steady for months. couple points higher than it was in our last poll, about where it was last spring, but donald trump has just been operating this low 40 territory pretty much throughout the duration of his presidency thus far. you noted the history. take a look at this. donald trump

by o omarosa, sir? >> low life. she's a low life. >> she responds to her wilder claims. >> suggest you walk away. >> remember that confrontation? reaction to what omarosa is saying from the man who confronted her is straight ahead. >>> plus, charlottesville, one year later. reaction to the emotions as groups gather in d.c. today, amid overwhelming security. this is msnbc live. >>> we begin this hour, marking one year since the tragic events spurred from the white nationalist rally. high security surrounding the white house, ahead of counter protests against the unite the right rally and the protest is this afternoon. in charlottesville, yesterday, hundreds gathered to mark one year after the first white nationalist rally resulted in killing a protester. the president tweeted, calling for peace. his former white house aide, accusing him of fanning the flames of racism, telling tmz, if the president wants to start a race war, he's succeeding. we are following this hour's top stories. maya rod ree griguez

omarosa is hocking a book. three folks, more than that who he thinks he made. >> who is he loyal to? >> that is a good question. these people are preparing for him to flip on them as he expects them to be loyal to him. and that bothers him. he feels like he made their career and they come out and say something disparaging. and then additionally, he feels like you know, these people are giving mueller something that would allow him to better make this case. and this case being in his mind that he somehow doesn't deserve credit for the presidency, for winning the presidency and that is the under lying thing that bothers him. even though, there has been no allegation in mueller's investigation, that is what bothers him about the whole spector of russia hanging over his presidency. >> omarosa confirmed that she has spoken to mueller's prosecutors. so he is like roger stone who also intimated it was time for podesta's time in the barrel. >> did donald trump know about those e-mails before coming out? >> absolutely.

white house conversations, including this one with president trump in december. >> omarosa, omarosa, what's going on? i just saw on the news that you're thinking about leaving? what happened? >> general kelly came to me and said that you guys wanted me to leave. >> no. nobody even told me about it. >> wow. >> they run a big operation, but i didn't know it. i didn't know that. god damn it! i don't love you leaving at all. >> reporter: over the weekend, omarosa also released a tape of a meeting in the situation room where chief of staff john kelly fired her. >> it's come to my attention over the last few months that there's been some pretty, in my opinion, significant integrity issues. >> reporter: in her white house communications job, omarosa had direct access to the president, owing to a friendship forged with mr. trump on his hit tv show "the apprentice." >> you know i've always been a big omarosa fan, but omarosa, you're fired. >> reporter: on saturday, the president cast aside his former protege. >> low life. she's a low life. >> reporter: and continued on twitter, calling omaros

katelyn, let's start with omarosa. the president is describing omarosa as whacky, as a lowlife, as not smart, deranged. is that -- why was she there if that's the case in. >> that's the question being raised by several white house staffers who initially pushed back on president trump hiring her in the first place after he was elected, about bringing her on in the white house. but it was the president, don, who insisted on bringing her into the west wing. and the president made clear in his tweet today even when john kelly came on as chief of staff he too convinced the president to fire omarosa. however, you see how long it took. she stayed on for several more months after john kelly first came into the west wing. so the president is tweeting these things now that omarosa is criticizing him in this book. some of these claims that white house staffers are very dubious of, but the reason is and the factor of the matter is this is someone the president brought onto the administration, someone the president paid one of the

i thing is doing that. >> omarosa, michael cohen. why do people feel the need tape this president. >> i think they know they can't trust him. you have to be a certain kind of person to tape your because. and if a lot of nobody challenginginging hill. >> and to record your because and in the situation room. can you believe we're having this conversation and the press secretary today that all is no taep of the "n" word. and also even back when i worked for him, he disparaged. i don't remember he used that word a lot. he had that way about him. >> did he use racial -- >> i don't remember. i just remember talking about the jews this and the blacks that. >> he's opening up a legal battle. but he's already currently tied up. stormy daniels. and the list goes on. >> well, this again is a great. i want to see actual tpaur follow through. this is a display more than anything else and he wants everybody's aterpb tepblz tension just like afrbbody do. i'm the biggest, scariest person around. often the nails are not even filed. if they are, thaoe

in the last few days on omarosa? tonight, we'll cover real issues, like those wildfires i mentioned, the attempted terror attacked in london, and several major primaries tonight, and the big midterm election year. but we start with it to my tale of the tapes that have caught the white house's attention. and our correspondent trace gallagher breaks it all down. good evening, trees. >> good evening, ed. as omarosa manigault newman continues promoting a new book which came out today, she remains involved in a very cost her back-and-forth of president trump at the white house. the trump campaign is file a lien arbitration complaint against her, alleging she is in breach of a 2016 confidentiality agreement. this is all related to claims made by maniguault newman in her new book. setting up new m allegations of sexism and racism, quoting, "when you give a crazed, crying lowlife a break and give her a job at the white house, i guess i just didn't work out. good work by general kelly for quickly firing that dog." later on ms

another of omarosa's bombshell tapes is a fraud. she told us how she interpreted that conversation. >> i saw this is an attempt to buy my silence, sensor me and may me off $15,000 per month by for the campaign. >> you saw this as hush money? >> absolutely. he thought he could dismiss, that i could be disposed of, but donald trump is wrong. >> vanity fair posted a piece, and he wants attorney general jeff sessions to have manigault-newman arrested according to one republican briefed on the conversations. >> are you concerned at all about being arrested? >> well, what mr. nixon -- i mean mr. trump does will be brought to light. every action he takes against me jeopardizes him and his presidency. so i think you should watch his behavior and how he's unraveling, and i don't have any fear. >> you're going to release more tapes? >> if i need to, i'll do what i have to protect myself. i'm not going anywhere. i'm not going to be bullied and i'm going to go toe to toe with him. donald trump has met his match. >> the republican national commi

and omarosa saying she has some regrets about her role. when you were listening to her, do you buy her new take on the president. some might say why did she take so long to realize that he was a racist in her mind? >> almost a year ago today it was in new orleans for the national association of black journalist convention and omarosa was in attendance on a panel and it turned into a big mess and she was very defensive of her role in the white house and of the president. there were people questioning her role in the white house, what are you doing there. i think it's interesting to see that complete about face on her part to go from defending the president full throated defense of the president to saying he's a racist and we already knew that so i think i am empathetic to the fact that this white house is attacking her. i think it was smart to tape john kelly and i think it's interesting to hear him say that she was guilty of serious violations when he was the person on the record defending rob porter who had beaten not one but two of his w

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tonight rudy giuliani was asked about omarosa's claim. >> omarosa also claims that trump knew about the campaign e-mails before wikileaks released them to the public. rudy giuliani says this. watch this. >> if she has some piece of proof that demonstrates that the president was aware of what e-mails they had, what would that mean? >> 100% confident that she does not. i know he did not know. >> if he did? >> i know beyond being his lawyer. >> if he knew, is it a problem? >> no. >> no? >> i am not going to get into the hypotheticals. >> he did not know. he didn't know but if he did it would not be a problem, does this defense makes sense, making it better or worse for the president? >> these are legal defenses. these sorts of arguments are made in front of judges, you would say you know a, the facts support it but b if they don't the law supports it. sometimes it makes sense and sometimes the judge will rule for you on the legal question. i don't know if it makes a lot of sense in the court of public opinion. no one wants to hear, oh, he didn't do it and everyone if he did it, it is okay.

the white house says omarosa signed it and is now violating it, but omarosa says she never inked such a deal. >> esigned a non-disclosure agreement in 23 for "the apprentice." i never signed a draconian nda they presented to me, because i few from my prior time in the white house. this was my second tour of duty. i worked for the clintons prior, this was not something that was acceptable. >> a national security attorney is with me as is women wailly, former assistant u.s. attorney so welcome to both of you. kim the white house says ndas are common in the government. we heard that from sarah sanders. is that true? >> not in my experience. i had a top secret clearance. it had highly sensitive information. i never seen personally a non-disclosure agreement. i think the reason is it's because one there are plenty of laws that limit the sharing of classified information to the standpoint you have access to that as an employee. two, i physical it's against public policy. >> that is one of the ways that we make sure our government is accountable is through transparency. there are a lot of la

honestly, i think we should not be talking about omarosa. because this is exactly what she wants in order to sell books. and if the question at hand is what -- how the president addresses race, then i think we already had all of the answers to that based on his actions, based on his words. based on the policies that his administration has put into play. so, you know, like basel said earlier, we don't need a tape or a book to shine any new light on what the administration is doing. that's what we should be focusing on is the damage that's been caused rather than omarosa and her, you know, kind of her self-serving needs right now. >> so we have about a minute left. very quickly, joel, what should happen next? >> what should happen is what she said. omarosa needs this oxygen to sell her book. i'm not buying or reading this book. after this conversation i frankly don't plan on having many more about it. let's talk about something that happens like the 500 plus children orphaned by this government or the white nationalists emboldened by the presi

i'm inclined to believe omarosa. people may call her a liar and historically she has not been the most credible person but this week she has proven to be credible. >> shouldn't donald trump have seen this coming? >> he should have seen this coming. omarosa is someone you keep around, safely tucked away in a corner. pay her the $180,000 that you were paying her. she was making the most money that you could make as an oval office employee, right up there with priebus, bannon and sean spicer. $180,000 to not do much. they should have continued to pay her that and kept her quiet. now with lara trump making her this obvious, it seems suspicious. you call her a liar, lazy, no asset to this organization, to the oval office, but yet you turn around and less than a week after firing her, you want to give her another check and hire her again. it doesn't make much sense. >> lola, thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. >> we're back right after this quick break. it's pretty amazing out there. the world is full of more p

that's why we see such an extreme pushback from trump on omarosa. >> it's not just these tapes that omarosa made or the tapes that michael cohen made. there are tapes of donald trump on a hot mic like the "access hollywood" tape that got him into trouble. there is stuttering john that could get the howard stern character, that could get through to donald trump while he was on air force one. there are reports, ashley, you have seen these, of donald trump using his unsecured phone despite being told not to. still using that phone. there were russians in the oval office. there are security issues that seem to plague this white house, not to mention the staff secretary having allegations of abusing his wives and the white house ignoring those. >> well, i think the key thing to keep in mind is that, like so much of what happens in this white house, this is a culture that starts at the top. president trump, before he was president, he always -- and it's unclear exactly how much he did this or used it as a threat, but was known, true or untrue, taping conversations. the irony here is now you have

omarosa is on her own. look, he's not so much worried about paul manafort's fate as he is about this trial playing out and what it means for him personally for trump, the sort of reputation, the image, the headlines, the media coverage. that's when the president is thinking about. i don't think he really is that invested in the personal stakes for a lot 6 of his staff members. >> i think that's the title of michael cohen's new book, it's you, not me. phil rucker, thank you for your reporting, thank you for spending time with us. everyone else is stinging around. donald trump has may have lost his favorite punching bag at the fbi, but the fbi may have just lost one of its best assets in the war against russian meddling. i will tell you the weirdest thing about omarosa being fired in the sit room. it isn't that she recorded a conversation with chief of staff john kelly when he fired her. ever wonder what happened when you click a stopwatch and ask a staffer to name one african-american west wing staffer? we'l

i do not know this omarosa. lisa: what about the omarosa from the apprentice? because that is where she wrote this being very cunning and backstabbing, unapologetically villainous. and you know, really made her way to the president. >> it was her brilliance.she benefited from it and america suffered because of it. there is so much conversation about omarosa today. i think the real conversation needs to be about what about hiring the best people? the president said he hired the best people. lisa: did he think he hired the best person when he hired her? >> he hires about 4000 people. lisa: so is not his responsibility here. >> a doolittle quick math kennedy. i think he has something like 2000 wax jobs working for him. his judgment, whether it is michael flynn, anthony scaramucci, omarosa, the list goes on and on. this is not the first situation where people have been unhinged. lisa: the president was unhinged to hire omarosa. but it was fine for president clinton because? >> she particularly i think was not unhinged back then. this is a different omarosa. this is

omarosa m omarosa m omarosa manigault has now released a secret recording. first to cnn white house correspondent katelyn collins who has more on president trump versus omarosa. katelyn, this is really ugler than an episode of the apprentice. >> reporter: well, jim, it's a fight only two former reality tv stars could have. the president alleging one of his former highest paid staffers here in the white house is a whacko, that would be omarosa manigault-newman who is making allegations of her own about the president and revealing conversations she recorded of her conversations with white house staffers and even the president himself, which is raising questions about why omarosa was hired to work here in the first place. president trump addressing soldiers. >> i'm here today to sign our new defense bill into law. >> reporter: as former white house staffer omarosa manigault-newman escalates her war with the administration, revealing she recorded her conversations with the president. >> omarosa, what's going on? i just saw on the news that you're thinking about

starting with omarosa, who is not holding back. the former white house aide calling out president trump just moments ago. >> do you think he's mentally competent to do this job? >> no, i don't think he's fit. >> the trump administration firing back after omarosa reveals she made secret recordings of white house officials including the president himself. >> omarosa, what's going on? i just saw on the news that you're thinking about leaving. what happened? >> changing his tune. rudy giuliani, the president's lawyer, now says president trump did not talk about michael flynn with former fbi director jim comey. >> what happened in that conversation with comey about michael flynn? what exactly did president trump say? >> there was no conversation about michael flynn. >> and our tax cut tracker is back. stock buybacks topping $1 trillion. and companies have no idea about what to do with all that extra cash. >>> we begin this morning with secret tapes. again, allegations of racism and the white house now in a pr war with omarosa. the forme

>>> omarosa meets mueller. the fired white house aide says she was interviewed by the special counsel. will her allegations against the president influenced the broader russia investigation? >>> race, lice and audiotape. omarosa's reality tv style feud with the president gets even uglier as she raises another secret recording he calls her a dog. tonight the white house is defending the president's

what does it mean for omarosa? we'll discuss that as well. >>> joining us jeffrey toobin and staff writer for the new yorker, jeffrey toobin, about this poll, the 66% want the robert mueller investigation wrapped up by the midterms is a fascinating number, as david points out, it will help and have incriminating information about the president, that's why they want it out. just by historical comparison, this has gone on for 15 months. that's not that long relatively speaking, look at iran-contra, white water, benghazi. it's not that long comparatively. >> that's true. if i may disagree with my younger identical twin brother chalian, so what. 66% they don't care. first of all, america doesn't care what his polling numbers are. but also, half those people want it over as david said because they think it's already proved. >> just like david said. you're not disagreeing. >> yeah, i guess i'm sort of disagreeing with you. i never like to disagree with you, david. i just think that number doesn't tell us anything, in par

omarosa shooting down claims saying she doesn't believe she violated it at all. joining us, maggie haberman, the white house correspondent for the "new york times." joining us now is maggie haberman. the trump campaign calls this a warning shot but also somewhat therapeutic for the president. >> right. this is a president, i think it's important for everybody to remember when they look at how he handles himself in the white house, he was incredibly litigious over many decades as a real estate developer and private citizen. he liked deploying lawyers against his rival business partners who where things went south or people who he felt defamed him in some way but it was always a way for him to exert dominance and control and i think in this case i think it felt good to him as of monday. the plan had been for the campaign not to do and then on tuesday they were doing it because this president wants to engage and by engaging he is elevating omarosa's book. he is making sure more people see it. that's not the intent but you would think-the-would have been able to meta

listen. >> omarosa what's going on? i just saw on the news that you are leaving what happened. >> general kelly came to me and said that you guys wanted me to leave. >> nobody even told me about it. you know they run a big operation. but i didn't know it. i didn't know it. >> yeah. >> goddamn it. i don't love you leaving at all. >> just one day after another bombshell release of a recording of the chief of staff, john kelly, the general's words are not as shocking as the fact that omarosa recorded him from the situation room in the white house, a room the white house describes as the nerve center for the president, a hub of intelligence gathering. it is within that room that omarosa recorded this. >> can i ask you a couple of questions? is the president aware of what's going on? >> let's not go down the road. this is a non-negotiable discuss. >> i don't want to negotiate. i never had tot chance to talk to you general kelly. this is my zpooe departure. i want the understand to understand. >> we can talk at another time.

her story. >> omarosa has a buck to make. she is -- look, i'm no fan of donald trump, that is no secret. and i would tell you birds of a feather flock together. there is a reason why this is happening over and over again with donald trump and it's because he has surrounded himself with people who are unfit, who don't have the character, and who have no loyalty to him and so have no qualms about turning loyalty into royalties. that's what we are seeing. no, omarosa has no credibility. she's or-a-rosa in my book. >> why did they hire her? >> he knew her. >> the most interesting thing about her -- >> she knew him. >> it's not that complicated. i've talked to men inside, mewh of her. they're all scared of her. i'm not going to talk about mark. mark might not be but i've heard from grown men who say if omarosa says something, you do it. they're literally scared of her. >> but there's less focus on mary elizabeth taylor who is an african-american on our team who did more in this white house to get neil gorsuch confirmed than anybod

is this is not a serious person. >> omarosa is of low character. >> omarosa has no credibility. >> stephen: yes, she is a liar and a back stabber with no credibility, backly like every one else in the trump administration. (applause) so don't-- okay the press can't have it both ways. they can't report on it and roll their eyes at the same time, okay. shetion's not below anyone else in the white house 6789 she and general kelly may have completely different paths, but they have exactly the same future. you can never scruboff the trump stank. speaking, speaking of trump fans, yesterday washington d.c. was bracing for a white nationalist rally, there was a lot of press built up to this and the alt-right came out in numbers, specifically the numbers between 20 to 25. huh. usually when a couple does a white spremmists gather in washington d.c. it is just a cabinet meeting in the end, thank you, jon. that's very kind. in the end even though the rally was scheduled to start at 5:30 the extremists arrived early, finished the demonstration, and left before 245 time. (laughter) don't worry. a lot of

kaitlan, let's start with omarosa. the president is describing omarosa as whacky, as a lowlife, as not smart, deranged. is that -- why was she there if that's the case in. >> that's the question being raised by several white house staffers who initially pushed back on president trump hiring her in the first place after he was elected, about bringing her on in the white house. but it was the president, don, who insisted on bringing her into the west wing. and the president made clear in his tweet today even when john kelly came on as chief of staff he too convinced the president to fire omarosa. however, you see how long it took. she stayed on for several more months after john kelly first came into the west wing. so the president is tweeting these things now that omarosa is criticizing him in this book. some of these claims that white house staffers are very dubious of, but the reason is and the factor of the matter is this is someone the president brought onto the administration, someone the president paid one of the

he did have omarosa sign a nondisclosure agreement. she later said she did not sign the white house nda. >> i never signed the draconian nda. i knew from my prior time of working for the white house, i worked for the clintons prior, this was not something acceptable. >> reporter: her recordings of the conversations with john kelly and president trump have created the sense of paranoia in the west wing. when she was about to leave last december, her colleagues suspected she was recording conversations and now the fears seem to have come to light. omarosa is promising she has more recordings and if the white house retaliates against her, she may publish them. dave and christine. >> kaitlan collins at the white house. thank you. >>> when president trump signed the john s. mccain act on monday, he forgot to thank one member of congress. john s. mccain. the president thanked several other lawmakers and long list of public thank yous. he made no mention of the bill's namesa namesake. take a look at the comment from the senator's former chief

the president clearly rattled about omarosa's book tour tweeting -- >> omarosa responded this afternoon with our own katy tur. >> if he would say that publicly, what would he say privately? he has no respect for women and african-americans, as evidence instructing the chief of staff to threaten me saying things could get ugly for me and there would be damage to my reputation. he's unfit to be in this office and to serve as the president of the united states. >> omarosa's new tell-all revealing more of the dirty underbelly of the trump white house, and his treatment of women and people of color. >> one of

there were other omarosa related bombshells today. this one involves robert mueller and the ongoing russia investigation. earlier on this network, omarosa stoke to katy tur about her interaction was mueller's team. >> let's talk about something you talked to chris matthews about last night, the mueller investigation. have you been interviewed by the special counsel? >> i have. >> you have. and what sort of questions where they asking you? >> that's the extent i can go in discussing that as well. >> have you sat for a grand jury? >> i'm not going to be able to comment than. >> you did say you might have more tapes robert mueller would be interested in. what sort of tapes would he be interested in? >> if he calls me i certainly will participate with anything that he needs, i'll provide him with what he needs. but that's the extent i can talk about. >> there was also this. omarosa alleged donald trump had advance knowledge of the hacked e-mails from hillary clinton's campaign. >> you were instructed according to your book to bring up the

that happened a number of days, because omarosa is a bully. >> so, what's omarosa's motivation to get this on tape and talk to me, what do you think about that? she can't deny that the president may be on tape somewhere saying the n-word? >> i'm shocked by a number of things. number one, the con desession that came from the press secretary today, talking about him being an equal opportunity offender, as if you have universal bigotry towards all groups, somehow the american people should be placated by the fact that that person holds the highest office in the land. on the notion that someone being the epitome of annoying, well, the epitome of ignorance to me is that category of people who refuse to acknowledge what is really a foregone conclusion and to acknowledge the statements, the context of all the things that have been stated, and the history of the commentary towards all sorts of people. when it comes to omarosa, it's very evident that no human being should be treated in a way or called or described as sub-human, but as doug can talk to you about, the history of american preside

the president called omarosa a dog. sarah sanders, his press secretary, says she can't guarantee you won't hear him on tape saying the n-word. does trump respect people of color or not? let's debate. symone sanders and david urban are the great debaters tonight. symone, your answer? >> no. and, don -- i'm sorry. chris, i don't need to -- >> did you just call me don? >> i did. >> we have made progress in this society, have we not, my sister? >> i was texting with don literally 20 minutes ago. my apologies. but i don't need to hear a tape to know if donald trump has hostilities towards people of color because we know he's an original birther. we know that donald -- and people just willingly ignore it. we know that donald trump was sued by the housing and urban development department in 1973 for housing discrimination. we know that he said a judge could not do his job while he was on the campaign trail because he was of mexican descent. i just really like -- for me, this isn't a debate. for many other people, it's not. peo

omarosa did this. it is dumb, quite frankly, to go into the situation room. >> how many blacks are in senior positions? >> well, if you want to have that -- >> how many blacks are in senior? >> jonathan hollyfield director of the white house initiative. smith who is a commissioned officer in legislative affairs. mary elizabeth taylor who is a commissioned officer who just got appointed by the president. >> these are all second and third tier people. how many people are in first tier positions? >> there is no one that is at the assistant to the president level. however, the two persons that i named before are commissioned officers which are as you know very well are in the senior level positions, as well as the fact that executive director is jonathan hollyfield. and you have other people, the deputy director of the white house fellows program is african american. you have the second lady in the united states, her communications director is cara brooks who is african american. and across the administrat

omarosa takes it back. so there's no question, we are told, talking to people at the white house the president is agitated by this, embarrassed by it and angry about it. now the question is, was this really a payoff? we know at least in this white house it's not that unusual for a fired staffers to suddenly wind up on the payroll of the re-election campaign. that's a place where others have gone. is omarosa in the same position? it seems she's different. she was fired directly and the president now we are told he knew about it. he said at the time he wasn't. all of this is going at the heart of something that he does not like people taking advantage of his name, using his name. we're told he's furious about this. he has stopped talking about it. meeting. he's not been tweeting about it except to show positive praise that she has said about him. so they are trying to show her as an opportunist here but so far at least she has the goods, and she has been releasing these tapes bit by bit and promises even more

manigault-newman. >> omarosa versus the white house. the president's long time friend and former employee omarosa goeh sc earth about his former boss and workplace. >> omarosa is now out with a, ew bo's called "unhinged." it provides an inside look at both the trump campaign and white house. >> omarosa unveiling what she says are secret recordings she made inside the white house io situroom when chief of staff john kelly fired her. >> white house press secretary sarah sanders slamming manigault-newman as a disgruntled former eyee. >> sarah huckabee sanders said,e ook is filled with lies and false accusations. >> donaltrump slams his reality tv protÉge calling omarosa "wacky." n >> set omarosa's book is full of sensational allegations. here's just one example. omarosa writes, and this is a , real excerat in early 2017 she walked michael cohen's rnthen trump's personal at into the oval office for a meeting with trump and allegedly saw the president chewing up a piece of paper while cohen was leaving the office. "i saw him put a note in h

omarosa. after secretly recording president trump and the chief of staff john kelly in the situation room and despite major obvious credibility issues, yes, your mainstream media is more than happy to push all the salacious over the top claims that are in her new book and coming up we are going to highlight the media's new preoccupation. we will also cover the protests that this weekend in washington, d.c., ignored by the media because for days fake news cnn and conspiracy tv msnbc and others, they have all been hyping, hyperventilating this rally as a major gathering of clan-supporting wackos. turns out about two dozen racist, apparently kkk sympathizing morons turned out and were completely dwarfed by scores of radical left-wing protesters, many even called for the president's assassination. violence against the president and the end of the united states of america. we have all that. we are warning you it will be disturbing. we have a very busy news night, tonight's breaking news opening mon

that is the sunniest spin on omarosa i've ever heard. come on. >> i think it reflects the person at heart. >> i wish i had that kind of idealism. but she is the epitome of an opportunist. as you pointed out, she was tape recording her conversations along the way, not because she was aboard to make america great again, but because she was an opportunist who was beginning to see that the walls might close in on her and she wanted protection. that's the beginning of omarosa. >> she has been on, you know, talk shows and dissing people. isn't that -- this has been her calling card from the get-go, hasn't it? >> it has been her calling card. but, again, i think a lot of people and i think the president felt that when she signed up to be in public service, when she signed up to be a public service to get to work on the campaign, it was not omarosa the actress, the reality tv star, it was omarosa the person who wants to serve and serve this president. and i think that is what donald trump inspired in people. and that's why so many people came an

omarosa violated every secret in the book. now she's trying to sell a book the president for his part consumed by this at least. we have not seen him in public. he has no public events on his schedule. he's been tweeting about it nine times, all of this leading up to the white house briefing, the first time sarah sanders will ask questions and many things, just another drama-filled day at the white house. >> we will take that live, for now, jeff zeleny, thank you. >>> and now, let's just take a minute. because i want to underscore, no matter how you feel about omro so, mark the date, august 14th, 2018, the president of the united states, the leader of the flee world, the planet's most powerful person is calling an african-american woman a dog. unfortunately, it is something that america has heard before. >> you called women you don't like fat pigs, dogs, slobs, and disgusting animals. your twitter account. >> only rosie o'donnell. >> no, it wasn't. >> that was three years ago. today, 20 months after being elected president, he

first to nbc. >> omarosa, what's going on? i just saw on the news that you're thinking about leaving. what happened? >> reporter: just yesterday releasing what she claims to be the president calling her the day after she was fired. >> general kelly came to me and said that you guys wanted me to leave. >> no, nobody even told me about it. >> wow. >> reporter: and this, allegedly the moment she was let go by general kelly inside the situation room. >> we've got to talk to you about leavingere are pretty sig legal issues that we hope don't develop into something that will make it ugly for you. >> is the president aware of what's going on? >> let's not go down that road, this is a nonnegotiable discussion. >> any time somebody is violating the trust of the wiest wing, especially bringing a recording device into those secret room, that is a huge violation of trust. >> reporter: omarosa's new book "unhinged" full ogatifs, in man vicious swipe at the president and administration she used to work for. a total 180. >> i say donald, you

good luck, omarosa. you don't seem to have much of a future doing anything else at this rate. >> ed: i want to bring tom end. briefly, you call her a clown show. it was a clown show hired by the president of the united states, right? >> statistically, sometimes you are going to hire people who don't work out. boy, she didn't work out. donald trump is appointing thousands of people's offices, you are going to get some losers, and omarosa, he did. >> ed: tom, i don't want to bring you into the political clown show. you come on and talk about judiciary issues in the justice department. there is a serious matter here, though, about the tapes she's recorded. i'm getting a lot of emails today from our viewers saying, number one, tipping the president, is there anything illegal about that? might be unethical. is it illegal? may be more importantly with general kelly being in the situation room, a secure place, or bringing in a phone and recording the chief of staff. is there a problem there? a law that may have

that omarosa took a note from me. i did not see this. just two weeks ago he slammed him for releasing a tape of a payment. rudy guilliani said this about cohen. >> the man is a pathological manipulator, liar. he has been lying all week, he's been lying for years. i don't see how he has any credibility. which lie do you want to pick? do you want to pick the first lie, the second lie or maybe a new lie? because he's lied all of his life. >> joining us now, jill rolvin, white house reporter. good morning to you. we have been listening to what has been said with president trump mentioning the non-disclosure agreement. one might ask the legal jeopardy omarosa may face based on the nda which is not easy to enforce even in private circles, but in this public sector does she face more jeopardy? >> it is interesting. it is unclear what the president was talking about here when he referred to this non-disclosure agreement. we know during the campaign every member of the campaign had to sign one of these non-disclosures. omarosa

oh and please listen how trump reacts when he finds out omarosa has been fired. >> omarosa, what's going on. i just saw on the news that are you think being leaving, what happened? >> general kelly-- general kelly came to me and said that you guys wanted me to leave. >> no, nobody even told me about it. nobody-- they run a big operation, but i didn't know it. i didn't know that. >> yeah. >> damn t i don't love you leaving at all. >> trevor: i don't love you leaving at all. i just found out. they run a big operation, omarosa. goddam it. you know for a man who lies as much as trump you would i this he would be better, no, i'm so upset about this! i wonder if he did this to people without got fired from the apprentice if he also called hey, gary, i just saw last night's episode, what happened? what happened, goddam t i didn't know. i will be honest, what we have heard on the tapes is not particularly shocking. but what is shocking is how many people are secretly recording the president of the united states all the time. so many people are walking around the white house wearing a wire i'm su

i think it's also important to note that if omarosa, going back to the omarosa revelation about wikileaks and how that might impact the president's kind of standing in the russia investigation, i think that if omarosa had tapes to the effect of the president acknowledging that he had previous knowledge of these emails before they were dumped by wikileaks, it's very unlikely she is going to be able to release those to the public, right? those are probably very important evidence in robert mueller's investigation. so it's unlikely we would see any proof about that any time soon short of something she were to say and we'd have to rely on her word about it. for all intents and purposes, the timeline that is, you know, that has been suggested prior to the wikileaks dump and with the trump tower meeting and george papadopoulos meeting where he learned about the russian emails, it seems to make sense and fit into the puzzle of the president possibly knowing about the emails before they were dumped. >> and rudy giuliani is telling fox news that he believes that mueller's team is going to give the